Genital mutilation needs to be illegal

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Witnessed and keked.

>tfw traveled to australia earlier this year and all the aussie chicks there hated cut cocks
>one of them said it even looks "like a firemans helmet" lol

It is true that girls in Australia call uncut cocks firemans helmets.

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why the fuck would you even want to defend this bullshit
Like legitimately, have you ever been circumcised as a teenager? If every male got to experience the pain of being circumcised, it would warrant the death penalty to all circumcision doctors.

Thank you for these threads Aussie, you and others saved my future sons from possible mutilation and got me to start restoring myself.

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thanks for your high-effort post

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>Genital mutilation needs to be illegal

I completely agree with you, fellow Ausbro. FUCK CIRCUMCISION AND FUCK KIKES!!!!!

No one wants to accept that they were mutilated against their will at their most vulnerable point in their life, by their own parents no less. So they cope, rather than recognize they were wronged.

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We've had a huge normie influx lately, hopefully they will learn, too

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>Denial
>Anger
>Depression
>Bargaining
>Acceptance
These threads do a good job of showing the 5 stages of grief.

It's easier to call someone ""obsessed with foreskin"" than to realize that parents willingly let their newborns get knife-raped by sadistic docs without anesthetics because they've been (((brainwashed)))

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Circumcision is literally indefensible, the "its cleaner" and "its normal" arguments for it are easily disproven. Just showing people the facts can convince people to never mutilate their sons.

I am convinced that circumcision is connected to why Jews tend to be so sociopathic. Circumcision is like a computer virus that infects everything related to the person who has been circumcised and all of his children (both male and female). Elite kikes know this and continue circumcising their children to perpetuate this virus, this virus of sociopathy. Circumcision causes autism and one of the symptoms of autism is A LACK OF EMPATHY (hence the lack of empathy that kikes have whenever they do bad things to us goyim):

sciencenordic.com/study-links-autism-circumcision

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The truth is hard to handle though.

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Infant circumcision permanently traumatizes and damages newborns. So I think your correct.

Good to see things catching on. I have more.

Women prefer intact penises. And elsewhere you can find men do as well.

cirp.org/library/anatomy/ohara/

Masturbation feels better.

Source:cirp.org/pages/anat/

Circumcision significantly reduces sensitivity.

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1464-410X.2006.06685.x/epdf

livescience.com/1624-study-circumcision-removes-sensitive-parts.html

Despite the reduced sensitivity, there is no change to lasting longer during sex.

Source:onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2005.00070.x/abstract;jsessionid=E233A9E106A9A6D724B4E3606446784E.d03t01

Cut men have a more difficult time fapping.

Source:onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2005.00070.x/abstract;jsessionid=E233A9E106A9

Which was the reason it was promoted in the USA in the first place.

english.pravda.ru/science/health/27-03-2006/77873-circumcision-0/

Circumcision increases risk of erectile dysfunctions.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=14979200&dopt=Abstract|

If too much skin is removed in circumcision, it can make the penis smaller since the dong needs some skin to expand during an erection:

altermd.com/Penis and Scrotal Surgery/buried_penis.htm

drgreene.com/azguide/inconspicuous-penis

Circumcision does not lower the risk of AIDS.

msnbc.msn.com/id/22096758/

Circumcision is more hygienic. Who the heck doesn't clean their penis? It's a three second job you do when you shower so this is not a valid argument. Women produce 10 times as much smegma as men.

Circumcised foreskin sold to cosmetic manufacturers for profit:

voices.yahoo.com/human-foreskins-big-business-cosmetics-201840.html

Erectile dysfunction 4.5 times more likely to occur if you're circumcised

thewholenetwork.org/14/post/2011/08/does-circumcision-cause-erectile-dysfunction.htmletc

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Jews circumcise as a blood sacrifice to Saturn (Satan) they cut the foreskin off because it is defiling gods perfect creation and proving their loyalty to their lord.

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That's even worse than I thought, it's literally torture. No wonder it causes changes in the brain structure

death penalty for mohels

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wait until the thread gets to 100 posts, a group of shills will turn up on massive damage control due to the information provided here and the sheer amount of backed up claims that they can't argue against.
Their arguments will basically consist of
>smelly dick
>girls like cut dick lol
>ur fags

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this NEEDS the ifunny watermark

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based

You're both onto something, I think. Also, remember that trauma is often used for mind-control purposes and circumcision (ESPECIALLY circumcision at BIRTH) is traumatic as fuck. Roger Domergue, a redpilled, Holocaust-denying, pro-goy Jew had the same conclusion about circumcision: it harms children and makes them fucking crazy. The kikes know this is true, they're doing this shit on purpose. This is all by design.

>I wonder why these dick obsessors ignore all the clear evidence suggesting there's obvious benefits to circumcision to the point all medical associations in the US say it's a completely viable and justifiable procedure...

>oh, right

Another day, another thread.

If you read throguh the first few posts i provided links that show circumcision causes brain damage.

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>WORSHIP YOUR FORESKIN

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Sorry, I didn't notice that. I'll check it out now and check out this article about how circumcision is the reason for kikery (among kikes and non-kikes alike): henrymakow.com/2014/09/Circumcision-Explains-Jewish-Psyche.html

>not an argument

I want to repay their cruelty to them tenfold, grant them a fate worse than death, so to speak.

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I agree with this one hundred percent.

It seems like the trauma stunts development of many brain functions and natural infant reflexes. I think that a combination of these different reflexes gets stunted, and it's different in each person. It would help account for the large variation of symptoms we see in circumcised men because everything involving human coordination is based off of these primal reflexes.

I developed this hypothesis during the psychological treatment of my circumcision trauma because when I regress to heal my body, it reflexively mimics these behaviors, and it's accompanied by large amounts of stress followed by large releases of emotional relief. It's like fighting through hell to create a sensation of euphoric lightning electrifying my body. The path starts where my circumcision scar is, and follows a pathway, usually up through my body, but sometimes down through my legs. It's very revitalizing. I feel more alive every time I accomplish it.

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Pretty sure i already posted my argument, you go ahead and debate it.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=lBx6Q4c9EGA
Here's the Phil Donohue show talking about circumcision in the 80s, despite there being two Jewish speakers against it you still get Jews in the audience going "oy vey, this is anti semitism".

OY VEY DELETE THIS NOW!!!

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12: Stanford's school of medicine list of circumcision complications (including infection, haemorraging, skin-bridging, phimosis, amputation and death):

newborns.stanford.edu/CircComplications.html

13: Cut infants get long-term changes in pain response from the trauma of being circumcised

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9057731

14: Circumcision decreases penile sensitivity

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23374102?dopt=Abstract

15: Circumcision associated with sexual difficulties

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21672947

16: Circumcision linked to alexithymia

mensstudies.com/content/2772r13175400432/?p=a7068101fbdd48819f10dd04dc1e19fb&pi=4

17: The exaggeration of the benefits of circumcision in regards to HIV/AIDS transmission

jme.bmj.com/content/36/12/798.abstract

18: Circumcision/HIV claims are based on insufficient evidence

4eric.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/MC.pdf

19: There is no case for the widespread implementation of circumcision as a preventative measure to stop transmission of AIDS/HIV

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1753-6405.2011.00761.x/full

20: Circumcision decreases sexual pleasure

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17155977

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17155977

21: Circumcision decreases efficiency of nerve response in the glans of the penis

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17378847

22: Circumcision policy is influenced by psychosocial factors rather than alleged health benefits

circumcision.org/policy.htm

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>but i already posted a bunch of nonsense and loose associations to papers that don't actually say what I'm claiming
>im also going to ignore that for some reason the top medical experts in the US seem to agree that circumcision is a fine option and the need varies by the individual family
>oh I can just claim they're all in on the kike master plan, easy enough
Every thread. Like clockwork

Wrong image. This is the set of infant reflexes.

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Morlag Ballz is muh nigga.

>obvious benefits to circumcision
Benefits that can be achieved by WASHING YOUR PENIS. Benefits could also be achieved by girls, but no one advocates for their mutilation.

some top medical experts in the US?
Is that why top medical experts in Australia all agree it should be illegal if done for anything but a legit medical reason?

Why do you support genital mutilation?

Roger Dommergue is a genuinely based Jew (and honorary Aryan) who was never circumcised and was passionately anti-circumcision. He said that circumcision is the primary reason why kikes engage in kikery:

henrymakow.com/2014/09/Circumcision-Explains-Jewish-Psyche.html

Also, there was a guy (I don't remember if it was Roger Dommergue or some other pro-goy Jew) who said that kikes would stop engaging in kikery within a generation if circumcision completely stopped.

Come on mate, provide some information that shows why these medical experts say you need your dick mutilated.

There's more than just hygiene. You can read them all on the websites for the pediatric and urological associations. Both agree there are clear benefits that may lower absolute risk in populations. Some more than others. So they defer to the family to see which risks they'd prefer to risk. It's a lot better to try read actual expert views than trust the collection of a rambling fool on Jow Forums, just saying.

>but all of Australia's top medical associations agree it should be illegal!
Why lie? You can check their views online.

I don't particularly care. I'm not cut and my kids aren't either. But I'm not dumb enough to pretend the benefits don't exist for some groups.

>do my homework for me
Wouldn't be the first to show you it. And I wouldn't be the last. Pass

Why do you support child abuse, kike?

Is it legal in Australia mate?
There is a reason it's not, the medical community in Australia agreed that it is mutilation for the sake of mutilation.

>based Jews
Can't talk about based Jews without mentioning Otto Weininger.

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thanks, I've saved these posts

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>not legal in Australia
It is legal in private hospitals. Why lie?

Bobby Fischer was the king of based Jews. Also, if pro-circumcision kikes are so worried about hygiene, all they have to do is have a shower. It only takes A FEW SECONDS to wash your dick while you're having a shower. THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION WHATSOEVER FOR CIRCUMCISION. NONE.

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Genital mutilation is fucking retarded. Circumcision should be illegal.
youtu.be/WhRl3MKxhLk

I am SUPREMELY HAPPY that I still have my foreskin. FUCK CIRCUMCISION!!!!!

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Cultures become pathologized like clockwork. Intelligence does not equal good decision making or moral behavior, and doctors have higher rates of narcissism and psychopathy than other fields of work. It's on par with lawyers. Doctors are always subject to the same cultural pressure everyone else is, and the medical community is under the constant pressure of insurance agencies. Big pharma and the harm of specific medical practices and medicines are constantly criticized by many different groups of people for a variety of good reasons, and not all of them are reiki spirit stone cucks.

Read the papers, then criticize.

Or keep shilling.

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Because making it illegal in private hospitals would mean Jews can't get it done, don't be dense.
Doctors will not recommend the surgery ever unless there is a medical reason because it provides no medical benefit.

>big pharma ramble
>smart people bad because I say so
>can't really argue with them or actually interpret studies, but I'll just go with that because it makes me warm and fuzzy
We're just getting all the normal posts in these threads out early, huh? Not even 100 in.

23: Circumcision linked to pain, trauma, and psychosexual sequelae

cirp.org/library/psych/boyle6/

24: Circumcision results in significant loss of erogenous tissue

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8800902

25: Circumcision has negligible benefit

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9091693

26: Neonatal circumcision linked to pain and trauma

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9057731

27: Circumcision may lead to need for increased care and medical attention in the first 3 years of life

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9393302

28: Circumcision linked to psychological trauma

cirp.org/library/psych/goldman1/

29: Circumcision may lead to abnormal brain development and subsequent deviations in behaviour

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10657682

30: CONCLUSIONS: This study confirms the importance of the foreskin for penile sensitivity, overall sexual satisfaction, and penile functioning: Furthermore, this study shows that a higher percentage of circumcised men experience discomfort or pain and unusual sensations as compared with the uncircumcised population.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23374102?dopt=Abstract

31: CONCLUSIONS: Circumcision was associated with frequent orgasm difficulties in Danish men and with a range of frequent sexual difficulties in women, notably orgasm difficulties, dyspareunia and a sense of incomplete sexual needs fulfilment.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21672947

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>it's because jews
>never mind all the christian denomination hospitals that still perform it and have no obligation to some kike control belief
>they're all controlled by the kikes
>proof? nah.

Ok bud. Ignore the mountains of evidence.

32: CONCLUSION: There was a decrease in masturbatory pleasure and sexual enjoyment after circumcision, indicating that adult circumcision adversely affects sexual function in many men, possibly because of complications of the surgery and a loss of nerve endings.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17155977

33: CONCLUSIONS: The glans of the circumcised penis is less sensitive to fine touch than the glans of the uncircumcised penis. The transitional region from the external to the internal prepuce is the most sensitive region of the uncircumcised penis and more sensitive than the most sensitive region of the circumcised penis. Circumcision ablates the most sensitive parts of the penis.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17378847

34: CONCLUSIONS: Our study provides population-based epidemiological evidence that circumcision removes the natural protection against meatal stenosis and, possibly, other USDs as well. This results in difficulties with normal urination.

thesurgeon.net/article/S1479-666X(16)30179-2/abstract

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>evidence
>poor interpretation of studies due to his raw lack of medical knowledge
I'm not ignoring much. You're ignoring a pretty huge knowledge gap, though. Basically trying to argue astrophysics by just chucking papers at people you can't really interpret.

Shut the fuck up rabbi time to go back to suckin infant dicks

yes people who do it for legal reasons need to be able to get it done professionally?
Why are you so fucking dense?

legal.. religious..

>Both agree there are clear benefits that may lower absolute risk in populations.
Something that affects a tiny minority and comes with extreme consequences of not having foreskin. It should not be done routinely and especially not on infants.
>So they defer to the family to see which risks they'd prefer to risk.
The "family" should have no say. It isn't their body, it's the boy's body who can decide if he wants to be circumcised when he's of age.
>It's a lot better to try read actual expert views than trust the collection of a rambling fool on Jow Forums, just saying.
I believe forced mutilation is evil and harmful, and any who advocates it or is apathetic to it should be treated like people who advocate fgm.

I'm definitely going to give it a read.

According to the AAP — they arenotpro-circumcision. Their wording was very careful — they don'trecommendit, but they dojustify access to it. And later in the report they state:“...health benefits are not great enough to recommend routine circumcision.”

pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/130/3/585

pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/130/3/e756

And yet Dr. Andrew L. Freedman, one of the senior members of the "task force" on circumcision for the AAP has now clearly stated:

"To many, especially in the lay press, this was interpreted as moving the needle from a neutral stance, as the 1999 guidelines were viewed, to being pro circumcision."[ie: the lay press were wrong].

Freedman has now come out and admitted, that the AAP "report" was nothing more than a sap to "multiculturalism" and that they took numerous non-medical issues into consideration, whilst at the same time stating that were doing the opposite:"although we claim authority in the medical realm, we have no standing to judge on these other elements."And yet — that'sexactlywhat they did!

So the AAP has now admitted, that their "medical" report was really about just allowing religious people to continue their sexual abuse and mutilation of infant boys.

The American Academy of Pediatrics is atrade organisation, and exists for the promotion of its members - paediatric doctors. It is not, and never will be, apatientadvocacy group.

The AAP members make millions of dollars from circumcising infant baby boys, and millions more from selling the amputated foreskins for medical research and cosmetics:

foreskin.org/f4sale.htm

And even more money fixing "botched" circumcisions — which can be 20% of their income.

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Sure. We can gladly agree it should be performed by a doctor. Next gripe?

>downplay the number who can benefit
>downplay autonomy and how parental role functions in that legal field
>if i just frame it as mutilation i can pretend to have a moral high ground
Anything I miss? Get it all out before the 100th post. We're going for a speed run

>makes no actual argument or rebuttals
>parents should be allowed to cut up boys genitals against their will guys, otherwise your just a rambling fool

Ha. My file got kind of fucked up. Good thing it's still readable.

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

― Upton Sinclair, I, Candidate for Governor: And How I Got Licked

Many other sane pediatric association from around the world has declared the AAP's stance to be against all sane, rational analysis.

pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2013/03/12/peds.2012-2896.full.pdf html

The British Medical Journal also published an extensive critique:

blogs.bmj.com/medical-ethics/2013/03/19/journal-of-medical-ethics-special-issue-on-circumcision/?q=w_jme_blog_sidetab

Also the Journal of Medical Ethics:

jme.bmj.com/content/early/2013/03/18/medethics-2013-101346.abstract

The Danish Society of Family Physicians has even declared male "circumcision" to be genital mutilation. Other countries in Europe will soon follow:

“The National Board of Health has sent Guidelines Regarding Circumcision of Boys into hearing. DSAM (Danish Society of Family Physicians) has debated the issue and agreed that circumcision may only be performed when medical indication is present. Circumcision in the absence of a medical indication is mutilation.”

Plus, the circumcision policy committee of the APP had many members with a conflict of interest, not least because of their religious belief in the requirement by their God to have their sons' penises mutilated as a sign of their devotion and love.

These people are terrified that the general public is going to get wise to this child-abuse and ban it.

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>I'm definitely going to give it a read.

You really should read it, the article agrees with my theory that circumcision causes sociopathy in Jews and elite Jews know this and WANT THIS, which is why they do everything they can to ensure that circumcision is practiced generation after generation.

>argument
You have a poor grasp on medicine
>rebuttal
Look up the recommendations by the medical authorities that have far more understanding than you. They for some reason still are fine with it even knowing all the arguments you cry
>your counter rebuttal
Wahh they're not really smart!!!

Anything more? Almost out of posts

just hack your penis goy

Dr. Andrew Freedman was one of the members of the committee, and was asked:

"Do you have a son and, if so, did you have him circumcised?"

"Yes, I do. I circumcised him myself on my parents’ kitchen table on the eighth day of his life. But I did it for religious, not medical reasons. I did it because I had 3,000 years of ancestors looking over my shoulder."

thejewishweek.com/features/new-york-minute/fleshing-out-change-circumcision

So he didn't have 100 million years of human evolution and Charles Darwin looking over his shoulder then?Everymale mammal in the animal kingdom is born with a foreskin, so it evolved forreasons.

Not only that, Dr. Andrew Freedman makes 20% of his income from treating circumcisions that have gone wrong! (But note thateverycircumcision is a botch job). So he makes $500 a pop for circumcising boys, and then more $$$$ for fixing the problems!

"As a practicing pediatric urologist, 20% of the patients I will see today are here because of something related to their circumcision."

amednews.com/article/20120903/health/309039955/4/

Here is the AAP policy statement. Can you please point me to the section where there task force members state their "conflicts of interest"? (Hint: you won't find it because it doesn't exist):

pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2012/08/22/peds.2012-1989.full.pdf html

Note that as three of the task force members were women; and the rest men all born before 1980, there is a very high degree of certainty that none of them possess a male foreskin.

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"Well, you know in the commentary of the Torah, it is written that circumcision is something that goes beyond human understanding -- that you shouldn't try to understand. I read it myself in the commentary of the Torah, so I say this knowingly. Well, that's not the case anymore. Now we understand the mystery. And we know -- well I know and some people know -- Albert Camus knew... and Dr. Gautier who figured it out of course knew better than me, some philosophers like Gustave Thibon etc. know. But the masses ignore it, and the Jews are totally unaware -- their ordeal - because it's an ordeal they live through - You know, to torment and to kill others, it's also hell for them, it's a disease. You know Nietzsche said 'it was the sick who invented malice.' Consequently these are people you need to cure, and to cure the Jews it's very simple: stop circumcision." - Roger Dommergue

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>Both agree there are clear benefits that may lower absolute risk in populations.
We have already had the epidemiological study. There is no evidence of any benefit between circumcised Americans of European decent and uncircumcised Europeans. You can’t cite any reasonable study which shows otherwise.

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In addition, at least four of them subscribe to a set of theological beliefs that require them to mutilate the genitals of their infant sons. And one of whom (as detailed previously) did so on his kitchen table. Not only is this in violation of the AAP’s code of bioethics prohibiting physicians from conducting surgery on family members (let alone in non-sterile environments), it also provides additional evidence of a pro-circumcision bias among the hand-picked task force members.

These people will mutilate your penis just because they think it pleases their sky-god. Forget about "medical benefits".

And recently, Steven Svoboda, a Harvard educated lawyer who runs "Attorneys for the rights of the child", debated two of the AAPs "Taskforce on Circumcision" members: Michael Brady, M.D. and Douglas Diekema, M.D.:

"Asked if people present could explain the functions of the foreskin Brady said, “I don't think anybody knows the functions of the foreskin,” then reiterated, in nearly identical words, “Nobody knows the functions of the foreskin.” I noted that there was not a word about the functions of the foreskin in the 2012 AAP report, and asked, shouldn't we know something about the functions of the healthy body part that is being removed?"

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>there's no evidence
>all those medical authorities are interpreting everything wrong
If you want, their logic is all posted on their respective websites. Makes for some good reading for someone so passionate about dicks such as yourself.

Ritual infant circumcision in the US is just a way for (((them))) to hide among the goyim.