Honestly have any of you guys ever debated a historian who specializes in the holocaust and do you guys think you can...

Honestly have any of you guys ever debated a historian who specializes in the holocaust and do you guys think you can win that debate?

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>they made 6,000,000 hollywood movies so it's true
Can you present any evidence it took place?

>Honestly have any of you guys ever debated a jew who wasn't in the holocaust who specializes in movies and do you guys think you can win that entirely emotionally based debate?

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I could win.

I honestly don’t give a shit whether or not it happened. Hitler will always be an autistic retard who destroyed Germany and much of Europe and will always be hated by the general population. Face it, there will never be a fourth Reich and people will always see him as an evil tyrant who killed himself when shit hit the fan.

>Hitler destroyed the greatness that was the Weimar Republic
How horrible. You must be devastated Chaim.

People think holocaust denial is denying the actual death tolls or camps, which it isn't.

I went down that rabbit hole and honestly the gas chambers narrative does seem iffy but I find it irrelevant how those people were killed.

rounding up innocent people and sending them to a camp to die by hard labour, firing squad etc is fucking inexcusable regardless if gas chambers were used so I stopped caring about the narrative.

Jow Forums thinks it debunked the holocaust by doing some quick math about the rate bodies can be cremated.

seems like an impossible debate for either side. the revisionists claim to have evidence for their theories and will not acknowledge the other side because "they've been fed lies". At the same time the mainstream will just call you a nazi-sympathiser and tell you that the evidence is actually real.

Neither side considers the evidence of the other side valid. The best you can hope for is that the other person decides your arguments are actually valid, but that mostly depends on the person you're debating (as long as you are civil/reasonable in presenting your own case)

All you have to do to win a debate is spit out opinions really fast in between panting breaths while having dark skin and kinky, brillo-pad hair.

>checked

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>innocent people

Lol

the holocaust was real and Hitler had a micropenis

get over it

>rounding up people
>keep them alive for years
>only to kill them
fucktarded leaf

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That is a very reasonable stance to take.
That Leaf last on Day of the Rake

>rounding up innocent people and sending them to a camp to die by hard labour, firing squad etc is fucking inexcusable regardless if gas chambers were used so I stopped caring about the narrative.
There was no genocide you tard.

Japanese people were sent to camps too. British sent Boers to camps. Germans sent jews to campa because jews overthrew Russia 20 years prior and tried to overthrow Bavaria as well in 1918.

If you actually think women and children deserve death by virtue of being of Jewish decent then you are actually evil.

they fucking rounded up soldiers who thought for Germany in WW1 because they had Jewish heritage. It was fucking lunacy.

well in their defense, there is little doubt of some exaggeration to debunk

This is what the camps were like.

EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY.

bitchute.com/video/5W6zIPoHcAAs/

if the holocaust happened as they say it did, doesn't that make Hitler a very efficient leader and a good guy?

If the only way to win is to get them to admit defeat then no.

edgy

Historians are all in academia, which is full of entrenched leftists. It’d be pointless. Remember David Irving, a historian who denied the holocaust and was cast aside despite being previously well respected

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I will rake you both

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Doesn't matter what you want to call it. I used to defend it too but then I realized I was defending taking peoples freedoms and forcing them into labour and being prisoners because of their last names.

I can't defend that, gas chambers, genocide or not its still wrong.

>rounding up innocent people and sending them to a camp to die by hard labour, firing squad etc is fucking inexcusable
you are right, fucking soviet kikes

>holocaust was (((documented)))
But was there ever any real evidence that it existed?

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Nice meme.

What happened in Darfur is MUCH better documented than ANYTHING that happened back then.
See : The Devil Comes On Horseback.

Yes soviets are scum too, just like the nazis.

Watch the video “A celebration of the Jewish People” by People’s Veto. It really gives you an idea of what even the average Jew is really like. They raised their support for affirmative action when they heard it would hurt White People. All other groups lower their support.

>Did six million die at the hands of the Nazis
Yes but only 4 million of them were jews. Many many millions more died but not directly at the hands of the Nazis.
>The jews were systematically gassed
No. They were shot, died of hunger and died of disease.
>why is this a significant difference
It isnt to a moral person. The problem is that the US, France, the UK, Russia and China have all been responsible for the starvation of millions. The shooting of millions or hundreds of thousands and of enslaving people.
>What does this mean
It means the "Allies" are just as evil as the Nazis.

>4 million
I remember sifting through old archived copies of the Jewish world encyclopedia, and finding only 3 million Jews were under Nazi occupation in 1942. 272,000 as reported by the IRC seems low but 4 million is too high

>Holocaust historian
You mean historical fiction novelist?

The main issue here is that, even if the genocide did happen (or least, a fuckload of people where killed), why did they have to exaggerate it and focus only on a certain group? Why use cartoonish evil stories such as gas chambers into lamps and soaps?

The hole European continent, and vast areas in Asia and other places suffered greatly. I find it disturbing that some people use all that suffering to fabricate a narrative to further their own interests, with little respect towards the truth.

It's a war, and a matter of national security. They were treated quite well compared to the allied concentration camps or the soviet death camps.

Many jews were also not sent to camps, such as those in the military or employed in certain areas.

At Auschwitz theres a sign that say the nazis destroyed the evidence and thats proof it happened.

This. America sent its Japanese to internment camps too, because they were seen as a security risk.

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The point is the numbers are politicized and inflated.

Dehomag’s records remain a corporate secret and no one has access to them. Verification requires these records.

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couldn't they just turn off the lights right after they ferry all the jews in and before their throw the zyklon canister ?

This image is propaganda too.

Exactly

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we didn't kill them

She lived in Dublin when she was doing this blogging. She committed suicide when she was found out to be a fraud.

I don’t get why you would need to use those types of tools to deal with dead bodies unless they’re diseased. The “gas” wouldn’t be much of an issue would it in a well ventilated environment?

You might have if the war started to go far worse. All you would need to do is prioritize food and medicine for soldiers over enemy prisoners.

Fuck historians. Show me some peer reviewed forensic archeology. She me evidence and location of these 6 million.

Who would win?
70 years of historical research with thousands of documents of evidence, eyewitness testimonies, photographs and chemical analyses; all studied in multitudes of volumes published by the most renowned historians of the age
Or
A handful of NEETs with forced memes

>If you actually think women and children deserve death by virtue of being of Jewish decent then you are actually evil.

Did any of you guys ever actually visit 8 chan? This place is so tame...I'm already tired of it.

>I honestly don’t give a shit whether or not it happened.
So you're too retarded to do a couple of internet searches to disprove holocaust denial claims made on Jow Forums

Your supply lines weren’t being bombed either

I have an acquaintancewho went full holocaust denial in public. It was pretty obvious he got his talking points here. It's been hilarious watching him get ostracized by the normies around him.
A few close friends know I browse here and asked me what I thought. I soft redpilled them. "I think the numbers are probably inflated, but it's wrong to kill anyone like that, you know?" "I suspect most of the deaths were starvation or being worked to death, I mean they were at war, not like they had the resources to ship gas around when they could be shipping troops and munitions" and the best one:"I think it's no wonder people question it, it's kind of not allowed to be questioned or you get ostracized. Anything that seems sacred like that invites the question" why can't I talk about this?", right?"

6 months later they were agreeing with me. Never go full stormnigger

>most renowned historians
You mean David Irving? He denied it.

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Memes of course. Memes are invincible. Its why our rulers don't bother with evidence anymore. They have embraced memes too.

No intelligent person thinks Jews were genocides by germany.

But they should have been.

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(((Google)))
They’ve been proven to manipulate search results now

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Why would a wooden door not be effective for a gas chamber?

Wow dude you're so cool.

>Literally shown to have distorted evidence in a law court
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_v_Penguin_Books_Ltd

>blocks your path

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Look at wood, it’s porous.

>"I must deny the holocaust so i can let my jewish masters dominate me and destroy my nation!"
Fucking kike boot lickers

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The "historian" would have a huge advantage, since there's an ocean of "proof" that they could draw from endlessly. It's a nearly unwinnable situation, unless we invent a time machine. The kikes have things locked down.

The idea that ships used to be made of wood is a jewish subversion used to justify the idea that the wooden doors used at auschwitz could be for gas chambers

>She me evidence and location of these 6 million.

Nobody claims an exact number now or then, but the Nazis did keep decent records of many things related to the death camps and mistreatment of jews. It was one of their main things, next to taking land from slavs and ruling Europe. And if you can't accept all the documentation, films, Nuremburg testimony, then how do you believe anything ever happened anywhere?

Not THAT porous. It would still form a barrier to a gas.

"by documentedf" you mean bearing false witness, faked testimonies of imaginary frauds, no evidence, wooden doors, and claiming low delousing agents which leave blue stains were used in a post war NKVD built bathroom

Why did nazi’s go through all the trouble of killing Jews in eleaborte ways (gassing/ovens) when the best way to kill a mass amount of people with as little effort as possible is just stick them all in a big open field and let them all starve to death.

This is what the communists did to us and was very successful way to kill millions upon millions of people in a short amount of time. Why did nazi’s not pick the most efficient method like the Jewish Bolsheviks did for us?

Maybe, just maybe somebody is for their own interests...

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because the supposed "original" wooden doors were thin and even had windows in them. those would've definitely been punched through (not to mention that wood is quite a bit more porous than stone so I assume that would cause a health hazard if you gas the amount of people that they supposedly did

It’s illegal to deny the Holocaust in half of Europe. Maybe it’s not that hard to believe a court case could be rigged in favor of the official story?

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It's not illegal in Britain

If Hitler hadn't re-armed Germany then USSR would have literally rolled across all of Europe with no major resistance except France.

Hitler managed to save half of Europe from communism even with the Brits and Americans stabbing him in the back.

It just isn’t worth my time. It’s literally a flat-earth tier conspiracy theory.

Maybe the soldiers didn't stand right at the door trying to peek through the gap and inhaling lots of escaping gas?
If you put a canister of gas into a room that produced a sufficient amount of gas it wouldn't matter if some escaped.

They also leave gaps between the door and the floor. If you have a genuine wood door in your house, it’s pretty obvious it chips and breaks down quicker than a metal door.

This pic is all the evidence I need.

How fucking dumb do you have to be to think Jews are a reputable source.

In 1000 years, as long as there is 1 white and 1 jew, there will still be a nazi and a greedy liar.

The kikes are done for. Brb, looking up addresses.

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only TRUE GAMERS will get this one

It's a requirement to stay in NATO that your government has to support the holocaust myth.

How can you have a trial when the result is already preconceived?

And you don't think the doors would be broken down once they realized what was really happening?

Britain is still a totalitarian police state. It would not shock me if (((Lipstadt))) got bias in her favor

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How strong are people that are dying from poisonous gas?

Right, that's why prisons all have doors made of wood.

They had peep holes though (only for the delousing chambers of course, they had to check the lice were dead)

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Didn't some guy try this and ended up losing in court because the holocaust is considered "common knowledge"

>think you can win that debate?
Sure.

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tell that to chemists working in well ventilated labs, but still using fume hoods

Imagine.. for a moment... a historical fact that lands you in jail if you question it...

>"I must not deny the holocaust in order to obey my jewish masters so they can take over my nation!"
Disgusting kike israel boot lickers. You fuckers are complete saps for falling for all this jewish bs.

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Lmao some prisons DO have wooden doors. Forts have wooden doors.

I just want to see how hard retards will try to troll. Its sad really.

According to the official story, it would take 15 minutes to kill someone with Zyklon B. It also has an eye irritant put into it by design as a warning that the quantities were too high (now why would the Nazis want that?).

Don't tell me that a few dozen people can't knock down a door?

>can't figure out that wood is breakable
>has apparently never heard of adrenaline

Maybe you should leave the debating to someone more capable.

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>some prisons do have wooden doors
I doubt you would put your max security prisoners behind wooden doors. Here they don’t.

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Pretty sure blind people would struggle to knock down a door.

Read about the Posen speeches of Himmler
>I am now referring to the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish people. It's one of those things that is easily said: 'The Jewish people are being exterminated', says every party member, 'this is very obvious, it's in our program, elimination of the Jews, extermination, we're doing it, hah, a small matter.'
>I ask of you that that which I say to you in this circle be really only heard and not ever discussed. We were faced with the question: what about the women and children? – I decided to find a clear solution to this problem too. I did not consider myself justified to exterminate the men – in other words, to kill them or have them killed and allow the avengers of our sons and grandsons in the form of their children to grow up. The difficult decision had to be made to have this people disappear from the earth. For the organisation which had to execute this task, it was the most difficult which we had ever had.

Source:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posen_speeches