Gen Xers used to consider 1998-2004 the downfall of pop culture and the cancerous teen pop / nu metal / trl / mike...

Early 2000s was horrible but still better than today. The 90s that people romanticize was dead by 98.

Digits.

Also, some people didn't bridge the gap with electronic music and chemicals at >180bpm.

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Every successive generation thinks they're shit was the best shit. Anyone seriously saying 2004 was a golden age for music is seriously deluded. It was literally all Illuminati degenerate shit, just like today.

That being said, gen Z has the fucking worst music I've heard yet. Mumbly mumbles with no real lyrics and repetitive basic bitch beats. Rock music is more or less completely irrelevant. Does every zoomer artist cut themselves and down a bottle of nyquil before they record or something?

But am I wrong user?

I don't really see what you listening to drugs and partying with sluts has to do with any particular time in history. That's always there. Also, nice digits, nice response to digits. A lot of good digits in this thread.

Not just their 'social game' but their personality, their personhood, their existence is based on what fads they were part of and which ones they weren't. Each decade had a theme too, clearly delineated, this didn't strike anyone as an odd coincidence?

gen x here. the nineties sucked hard. the eighties were awesome. gilligans island, perry mason, andy griffin, clint eastwood, heavy metal, punk rock ,,,, and no niggers, no chinks, no poos .... 90%+ whites everywhere, beautiful girls, rollerskating, no faceborg, no twatter, no internet to speak of, it was the last decade people went out and did stuff, all the time, and most people were in decent shape ... aids was killing off degenerates, cops were respected, people acted polite, crime was low, things were way better, hard to believe it was 30 years ago

punk rock and metal is still fantastic, duder
just because you won't find it on the typical top 40 jew radio doesn't mean it stopped existing
go to clubs and concerts and bars with shows

everyone who has the opinion "life was only good during [my formative years] and everything after that sucks ass"
everyone that thinks like that,
Are retards.

We're swimming in an ocean of retards.
You're a retard.

>gilligans island, perry mason, andy griffin, clint eastwood, heavy metal, punk rock ,,,,
This is exactly what I'm talking about. People who just reference pop culture as a sentence in itself. Entire conversations that look like this. I cant stand it irl.

Every generation is going to think their youth was some sort of golden age. Most of it is attributed to being young and more innocent and wanting things to stay the same. There's a beauty in naivety. The reality is that every generation since the 50s (and even before in some cases) has been subverted and corrupted by communist subverters. It has only gotten worse as the communists play the long game. Newer generations are grasping for scraps of beauty and innocence in a world transformed by satanists.

You would have a point if everything music/culture wise didn't suck after the 80s but it has and continues to suck. I sure as hell didn't have to compete with niggers or even worry if a girl I wanted to go out with was a coal burner like all you fags do now.

You literally just got old

I was referring to the "downfall of pop culture". I was saying that it's basically when popshit became electroshit. Drugs and sluts sort of came alongside the ship.

why? why do you post this shit? how is this Jow Forums?
Why do you care what random people think in some "study" and then why do you care what Jow Forums thinks about those random asshats? Why does this matter?

people romanticize their own childhood and people are born at different times so they romanticize different things. its really not that hard to figure out

And you don't have to worry about females you'd like to go out with being coal burners? Who's your favorite monkeyball player, son?

88 er here...

Nu metal peaked in 2001.
Slipknot mudvayne mushroomed system of a down all had heavy albums and everything was softer past that. 2004 was the downfall of the whole generation of music.
Icp had their most mainstream album and every person at the school listened to them like drake or another popular artist from now.

The next icp albums and tsiztid releases sounded good to oldschool to terrible with 2004 being a turning point there.
I felt betrayed by a lot of the music

Ppl stop wearing trip pants in 2006

2002 to 2006 ppl wore alot of black and ppl focused on 90s culture more than the culture st the time.

We liked the games and movies though.

Some new bands would be loved most not cuz it was soft generic music.

the true downfall began in the 1980s. At the height of when the Jews started to assimilate towards media power. Anyone here older in Boomer-age would recognize the first token niggers on the media. Shows and movies consisting of at least 1 nigger or so in the movie in the 1980s, right? That's where the culture started to crack, the 90s started to crack and crumble more. 00s and onward to current. crumbles and dust now. Now we see more diversity and less whites in movies, tv shows and even commercials for fucks sake. All to the Jews taking over in the early 1980s.

>Sneed
based

Btw I also listened to nirvana Alice in chains Manson all music from the 90s.

Alot of the people did too.

Now I look for underground 90s music for fun but when nu metal got soft Iistened to death metal to replace the heavier sound which was obituary carcass mortician cannibal corpse

I also gave a listen to fear factory machinehead..... I also listened to the softer nu metal or underground nu metal from the time.

Some underground nu metal bands had their own unique sound or some aspects of the old.

I also found bands like industrial and thrash and all of this music

m.youtube.com/user/gravelywhimsical 5.7 k 90s songs

They don't make em like this anymore

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the 00's ended when nu metal died

>People kept saying "1993-1997 was the true 90s" or "That 98-99 pokemon britney nsync crap wasn't true 90s, felt more like proto-2000s".
True desu. 88er here btw.

Not a good photo of her. Britney was literally hottest when she was 16, just go back and look at her music vids. She’s hottest in her first 2

Why would anyone at any point ever be interested in xoomer scum's opinion on anything???

Kids & Teens are stupid the study.

>black people didn't exist until rap music was on the radio
Ohkay there Jimbob stay in your dead little pop.500 town

>if music didn't suck after the 80s
It all sucks. All the time. There will always be someone in their 40s like you shitting on everything made ten years after you were a teenager. There always was. There always has been.
You're literally the definition of a person who has hit "brain shrinking, losing function" stage of life. Being unable to enjoy new, creatively different information is a huge sign that you've gone old.

Your grandparents were shit on by your great grandparents for listening to big band and wearing skirts. You're shitting on me for listening to Buckethead and The Chronic 2000
Maybe you need a weeks vacation and a guided LSD session or something, friend. Invigorate all those wasting neurons and reconnect the better parts of your brain.

You be the judge
1997
youtu.be/NHozn0YXAeE
1996
youtu.be/gJLIiF15wjQ
1990
youtu.be/ay6GjmiJTPM
1997
youtu.be/is6gtilerPk
1992
youtu.be/010KyIQjkTk
1998
youtu.be/68ugkg9RePc
1997
youtu.be/ZyhrYis509A
1999
youtu.be/xat1GVnl8-k

I remember being at my friend's house the first time I heard "The Bad Touch" and we both laughed our ass off at how bad it was. I said afterwards how awful it was, but that it would still become a big song. It's probably hard for people to imagine now because it just seems like an average trashy pop song, but at the time this was a huge drop in the quality and standards for music (like the Friday of its time). Everyone but the most normie hated it and thought it was a joke, but it still became big because it was played nonstop, and people started to like it, I guess this was the beginning of post-irony.
Another huge tell, I'm from a rural area, yet there were people who started dressing with huge baggy clothes, the hip hop styles, and even the rave styles with soothers and plastic chain bullshit. It was just bizarre.
I hesitate to criticise things like grunge because it was something like a last stand for white rock music, but there was such a low energy and SSRI aesthetic to it, almost seems planned so that the even more degenerate styles and black music would take over.

Gen X is totally irrelevant.

And this really shows how far we have fallen
youtu.be/w59e20ijOpE

The memeflag shill keeps posting this same exact thread everyday and none of you autists ever notice.

I don't really come on Jow Forums anymore except for special times like Epstein's death. Just ramping myself back up for the election memes.

I've gotten all I ever needed to learn from this board and can only hope the new kids come out a little better a little faster than I did.

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The sole acceptable exception is music.
Even synthwave can't touch Vangelis and the many other 80s classics.

>she's hottest in her underage videos
What a merry coincidence

They won’t be able to learn much of anything here because any meaningful discussion immediately gets derailed by shills posting threads about buying Greenland and “are x based?” or q boomers shitting up the board. I think the furthest newcomers will get here is becoming a turning point usa supporter. It’s depressing

Growing up in the 80s-early 90s was great because you could see good bands for less than $15.

Saw the Ramones and Cramps many times and could afford to see them on my poor ass budget back then.

Now the Black Keys cost as much as Paul Mcartney to see live.

You don't think Napster and collapse of CDs had anything to do with declining quality of music? If it wasn't for itunes, all we would have now is Brittany Spears tier shit. The modern music is not a money making business it was before the Napster killed the business. No money, no talent. It's pretty straight forward. Nothing generational about it.

Spotify premium is unironically where it's at now. I even find new releases of obscure punk bands, hell they have the entire Pike's catalog from Buckethead. Couldn't even say that 3 years ago when Slacker was the best (shame they died - Slacker had the best radio algorithm)

>the eighties were awesome
>gilligans island
1960s
>perry mason
1950s-60s
>andy griffin
1960s
(I'm assuming your dumb snownigger ass meant Andy Griffith)
>clint eastwood
Started in the 50s, hit it big in the 60s, continued big through the 70s, 80s, and 90s--and even a few flicks into the new millennium.

tl;dr exceptional leafpost asshole

It's all niche and money that was in the CDs is not coming back. I would expect a drop of quality, and damn, it did occur. Fucking magic. So I'm sure there are niche products, but they don't get paid as much as CDs when you had to buy a whole CD if you liked a song. Music is dead until they can monetize it without fucking concerts, because concerts is all old bands that can pack a stadium, and they kinda sucked to begin with. I'm not going to a concert if I like a few songs.

Well, old bands arent good for shows because they all got...old.

I would kill to travel back to 1986-1989 and watch Metallica in their prime.

Sensible chuckle, and true

Genx here, I remember the 80s being a lot of covers and the occasional good song.
90s was just awful technodance shite, 2000s hit so bad as to be mostly unlistenable.
Peak music was 1976 to 1984.

No. this ain't true.

The problem is the money is not there, so the bands that can pack a stadium are old. New bands are not promoted like those bands were, because there is not enough money to go around. And music is not just the musician. It's the whole infrastructure. That infrastructure is not there anymore, because the business can't support it. We witnessed the height of music industry and it's not coming back. I think there is money in TV now, that's why shows are significantly better than what you could watch in the 80s and the 90s. Not on the same level even.

I'm a Gen Xer and me and all my Gen Xer friends never said that
stop putting words in are mouth faggot.

It was going that way anyway.
At the start the record labels relied on professional musicians to make records which they could then sell.
Later in the 50s with the advent of the electric guitar and its popularity blowing up like a hot air balloon, a large amount of kids got into making music and they really wanted to be in a band, make records and tour the country/world, but they still had to be good to get a chance. Labels would scout them at pubs and other events.
Then in the 80s rap went big and it became even cheaper to produce records that sell well, all they had to do was push gangsta culture.
When Napster and Kazaa happened the cost of purchase dropped to zero while the cost of production was similar to what it was in the 80s and it took the music industry a long time and a really big think to figure out how to perfectly eliminate costs.
What they do now thanks to iTunes and Spotify, is provide records digitally which can be copied at virtually no cost.
The consumer gets premium accounts for the music, but because the average music listener doesn't actually hunt for tunes and prefers to listen to pre-defined playlists, the labels or others involved can simply decide what to play for people.
Some look into the culturally subversive opportunity this presents, but ignore that for a moment.
When the label decides what's on the list and the label decides who gets to make music, all you need is a farm of producers who are desperate to make records, people who'll do it on the cheap or even better: for free.

This is why it all sounds the same now.
Even though punk and rap lowered the skill floor, they still cost big money in the long-term.
With today's EDM, the only expenses are video production. The producers are all no-names with hope and ambition, and the thots singing for them ((("don't make money off records"))). They have to do concerts for money.

Minimal effort, guaranteed results.
Just market forces at work.

This.

It's not generational that this music is crap. Shows are fantastic, because the money is there. It's a function of resources.

i think the sugary sweet 90s dance was the best personally. things like aqua and vengaboys. it feels very pleasant and nice

Anyone who thinks the 90's lasted until 2004 must be fucking retarded. what then the 80's lasted until 94? fuck off stop clinging onto past generations because your generation couldn't make a childhood worth remembering

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