It's open war between Lega and 5SM, a continuous exchange of attacks on TV and social networks
>The 5-star movement is backed by its supporters who have not yet understood what the movement has just done: sell themselves to the EU Soon in Italy everything will return as before Salvini, they threw him out of the government and are destroying him politically. It is likely that to finish him they will condemn him for kidnapping The defense minister (5S) has already begun to order the navy to recover migrants at sea and take them to Italy, while Prime Minister Conte has already started making pro-EU and muh climate change statements >A few days ago I said it, many italanons called me shill
+++following other threads I noticed that some guys are flee from the asylum and have fun flooding Jow Forums with shit. one of them is clearly disturbed and continues to post feet, fetish pics and various insults to everyone. report him and ignore every post in italian+++
what does the man in the street think about it all?
Noah Robinson
mamma mia il negro mangia la mia epizza
Carson Stewart
Not everyone understands what is happening, they still think that the 5S are an anti-system party and that it's all Salvini's fault
Gavin Martinez
The 5s are not Backed by their voters. Look at Dimaio facebook Page they Are seething. Not a Single positive comment everybody is sperging at the fact they want to ally themselves with pd. The only ones Who back this among the People Are those Who vote PD because if they make a program it will be leftist oriented
Carter Cook
Have faith
Juan Collins
These Are the comments under last Dimaio fb Post. Only leftists like Mentana are cheering for this. For The M5S voter base it’s a huge disappointment
They do not care, they sold the Italian political scene to European commissioners for a seat. They are already finished as a political party, they will choose to survive together with the PD
Carson Bell
The 5S will lose all its voter base if they make this. Part of it will stop voting, the Rest will go to Lega and PD. One thing is lose votes if there Are new elections, but if they ally with PD it’s the end for them that’s what stopping them
Adam Nelson
I’m Not so sure. If they go to the vote they’ll take 15-20%. They will be smaller but not dead. However if they ally with PD then they have much more to lose. They will lose all their voter base and relinquish all their policies
>They will lose all their voter base and relinquish all their policies 15-20% + too optimistic they don't care, so they know that if we go back to the vote the center right wins and they disappear
Jackson Young
The narrative has spinned btw. At first I think Salvini lost alot of votes but what’s happening these days is exposing the 5S. Now everybody is against them, especially their voter’s base. The leftist Are rubbing their hands hoping the 5S are so stupid as to accept their deal, it would be extremely leftist oriented and it would bring them votes+ destroy the 5S once and for all.
Isaiah Reyes
The center right wins it’s true but they don’t disappear. They disappear if they go with PD it would be a huge mistake for them. They Are a bunch of uncapable fools and always have been. However people Voted them because they were honorable and never played these games to stay in power. If they do now it’s over for them they Are Losing their only bargaining chip
they were doomed from the start, textbook definition of "né carne né pesce"
which heights would Lega reach if 5S/PD becomes a thing?
Christopher Wright
>(((everyone))) Some are afraid >We must be careful, if the PD goes to the government with the 5 stars the next time we vote the center-right takes 60-70%
>they still think that the 5S are an anti-system party and that it's all Salvini's fault "At the very moment when one of the 2 parties (M5S) began to change to the third party (PD) and become a pro-system party, the risk was unfortunately to have to put the face and the signature on things that are the opposite of those what do you want to do (League)" >twitter.com/miia_2018/status/1164106189979955200
probably not anytime soon sadly the m5s is still leading the government if pd manages to buy them then they can just continue for another 3 years like this
>but I didn't vote for this year ago 32% voted the 5 stars if we don't like it we have to do something
Justin Sanders
5 stelle have two scenarios 1) they keep to their guns, accuse salvini and go to the vote making a campaign based on his alleged betrayl, which might make them recover some votes 2) they keep the huge number of seats they have now, ally with PD and burn more of their electoral base until next elections, where they will have become a 10% party if they are lucky
Basically risk it and play the long game or not give a fuck and burn everything because you are dead anyway
Justin Ross
fake clothes but the meaning does not change they are fucking sandniggers who come here to ruin our country it is enough
The only times Italy was great was when it was Pagan.
Christian Cruz
I'm not so sure. I doubt casaleggio & co. want to see their toy disappear completely. If they are smart they can still recover, especially playing on the "salvini is a traitor" idea. They won't govern next ime, but they make much better at the opposition than governinhg anyway, since they are quite incompetent, especially concerning economy
Asher Rodriguez
How does the PD always manage to lose the elections and still rule the country? Is it black magic or some sort of advanced kikery?
Jayden Campbell
>Is italian >can't turn on tv proxyfags should be gassed
Justin Kelly
Because the president of the republic was elected by PD, and in case of crisis he's the one that decides what happens. Which is why they are so afraid of having elections, since the next president is elected in 2022 and would be elected by a strongly right wing eurosceptic government (that risk being able to change the constitution without referendum)
Alexander Martinez
Why do you post the same shit everyday?
Nobody likes m5s, and the alliance with PD will ultimately destroy both parties
Why are you worried exactly?
Ayden Clark
>Why are you worried exactly? Because they'll bring in as many niggers as they possibly can and make many of those already in italy citizens by legalizing ius soli
Gavin Thomas
M5S now at 10%. They're done, just hope to get to finish the dismantling of the State and Industry for the Frank-Alemania axis and the British Crown so all that's left to rule for Salvini is a pile of rubble.
James Morgan
>"salvini is a traitor" idea. "We don't ally with PD + It's Salvini's fault, vote us" could work
Kevin Cook
exactly
Jonathan Smith
>Why do you post the same shit everyday? not me >Why are you worried exactly? - sandniggers - sell off italy - austerity
The niggers that arrives years ago already reproduced like the roaches they are. Those children are now gonna be italian citizens and they'll most certainly vote PD forever
Austin Reyes
Ius soli will just give citizenship to everyone, everywhere, forever. As soon as ius soli is passed, three million pregnant Africans will get on boats to Italy. Learn from our mistakes. Don't become 56% mutts
Jaxon Phillips
There aren't many nigger kids in Italy. 99% of niggers that came are illegal and male and thus haven't done family reconjunction. Unless the reproduce through spores or became hermaphrodites, they have no kids for now. But regardless fuck ius soli and anyone that even thinks of supporting it
Dominic Bell
>The niggers that arrives years ago already reproduced like the roaches they are there are very few black Italians before the year 2000. those who arrive later can take citizenship after 10 years. if they have a child they can apply for citizenship after 18 years. the illegal do not vote. so in 2019 very few blacks can vote
many of the blacks who have worked hard to obtain citizenship are with Salvini, because they consider it unfair that the "refugees" arrive and have everything for free >Those children are now gonna be italian citizens and they'll most certainly vote PD forever yes the "new Italians" would vote PD
Lucas Russell
Do you know if the implementation of ius soli will mean the end of ius sanguini?
Jordan Myers
>Unless the reproduce through spores or became hermaphrodites, they have no kids for now fucking right, they have few women and few of them can find an Italian who has children with them
yes of course, that's why it scares me. I am NOT in favor of Ius Soli
Christian Sanchez
Don't they have to change the constitution to abolish ius sanguini?
Easton Diaz
Of course, but ius soli can be reversed and it's something a right wing coalition would do. Even before last election it was about to happen. Regardless I hope they won't do it
Ethan Wright
No it is enough to create a law without touching the constitution. The dems were almost successful in 2015, but failed to get the approval of the Senate for the tough opposition of the League and Forza Italia
That would fuck me over. I presented all the documents in my local consulate to get italian citizenship, but I won't get it until 2021. If they deny it to me after all the effort I made I'll get beyond mad
Aaron Powell
oh nononono
Jaxson White
And won't they have problems now that their representation is even lower?
Brandon Davis
If the 5 stars are sold they have all the parliamentarians and senators they need
Asher White
I miss the times when all we talked about was in how many ways we would have fucked Boschi. It’s a shame all this fascistoid braindead drones have started thinking they can even engage in political discourse and analisys all of a sudden
Ryder Perry
I want to fuck Ms. Melloni. She is based and rossa pilled.
At very least north and south need to split. Only non nigger part of Italy is piedmont anyway
Jonathan Long
let's see how many terrorists come seek "refugee" in italy once m5s decides to work with pd and be their dogs europe is gonna get fucked so hard if italy opens the ports again that it won't be funny anymore
Maybe Italy should open the ports and let them flood Europe and see what happens.
Noah Butler
well it was expected with years of pd government before salvini deepthroating the eu and merkel's cocks like their life depended on it merkel wanted them so bad she had to ask other countries like ours to be the middleman even though she could've easily brought immigrants to germany through the western mena zones that are much closer instead of going as far as the middle-east
