Lock your money for 30 fucking years

The world doesn't end with a whimper but with a boomer.

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On the bright side, Germany did a pro-gamer move the last time they had a massive economic depression.

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We literally need another hitler

well that is dismal
thanks for the clarification

It's because the world economy is tanking except for the USA therefore every chink is buying us bonds to protect their money.bots pretty simple really and nothing to do with imminent collapse

>buying us bonds
among other things. I always laugh when people tell me "China is buying up all of africa! They're gonna take over the world!" The fact that they're willing to spend one red cent in that god forsaken hellhole should tell you all you need to know about how truly fucked they are.

It's like when the japs bought rockefeller center for three billion dollars then sold it a year later for 1.5 billion. They were thrilled with that deal because it meant they got half their money out.

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the investor believes,

the value of the bond in the future > the value of the money in the future

>Store it in a bank? Banks could go bankrupt and your are not guaranteed to get your entire money back.
Id figure they could store it in a foreign bank maybe, idk.

Neat, I lov economic doom porn.

Just think. Every single year, every month, every day, for the next few decades, more people will leave the german workforce than enter it.

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I believe Germany has one more chimp out left in it.

>Economic recession time

Also china. And they have the additional problem of 30+ million incels explicitly created by state policy. That'll be fun.

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deflation

They're betting that the ECB prints more euros and buys these bonds, driving their price up, and driving rates further down.

The ECB would effectively give Germany more money for their welfare and crony capitalism state, and would inflate the euro, making their exports more competitive, but it would effectively give all their wage earners a wage cut. Since they arent really democratic, they dont give a shit about their own labor.

>why not just hold the currency
but the mountain jew cleared things out

Another thought: the globalist jews and their golem puppets truly believe that removing borders and letting shitkins flood the country will actually replace these germans leaving the workforce

This shoes how pessimistic people are about the future.

while he is right in the sense of what drives investors, ie risk aversion, he kind of glossed over the fact that government bonds are not riskless, countries default every now and then. argentina was the last big on? russia defaulted as well.

theres no escaping the coming turmoil, whites stopped reproducing and the jew globalist elites need new debt slaves. shits going to get ugly long before any feasible AGI can take over. fuck the environment will kill us all first too imo

>truly believe
Do they? I'm not sure. Some of them may have fallen for their own propaganda. I mean, in spite of all the evidence to the contrary, they still argue for it and defend it as vigorously as they can.

It really will be interesting to see how liberalism reacts once its core assumption about all humans being blank slate, atomic individuals is disproven to the extent where it can't be denied or spun any more. I'm sure they'll just keep trying to spin it, but eventually people will just stop listening. I guess we're already part of the way there.

>the environment will kill us all first too imo
No it won't leaf, we're smarter than that. The dutch carved a country out of the ocean a thousand years ago with mud and rock. We have cement and Caterpillars. It will probably kill an assload of africans though.

>It really will be interesting to see how liberalism reacts once its core assumption about all humans being blank slate, atomic individuals is disproven to the extent where it can't be denied or spun any more.
No one even believed this until 1965 or so, which only makes our current state of affairs even funnier. Literally just cancelled science because it might lead to the Holocaust, somehow.

They do, I'm sure.

I hope they save themselves.

I think they can. I just hope we're on the right side this time.

Trump has lowered corporate tax Germany as a low corporate tax colony isn't needed so much anymore. Manufacturing is leaving

Expanding criminal and welfare classes.

WEIMAR CONDITIONS LEAD TO FINAL SOLUTIONS

Bro everyone knows deep down.

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Because you expect to be able to sell the bond for more than you paid for it in the future.

Context?

It's funny, the Jew worked so hard for decades to break white families and destroy white culture but they're now realizing a future without white people is a future without shekels (because niggers just want gibs and don't actually generate wealth). Guess the Frankfurt school plan didn't quite go as expected.

b-but immigration makes economy STRONK

The reality is that if one removes the illusory support of central bank stimulus, our economy never left the "Great Recession" of 2008. Signals of renewed sharp declines in economic fundamentals have been visible since before the 2016 elections. Alarms have been blaring on housing, auto markets, manufacturing, freight and shipping, historic debt levels, the yield curve, etc. since at least winter of last year

interest rates are supposed to match inflation. is inflation negative? fuck no

interest rates were 18% in the 80s, to match inflation. interest rates came down to 1%, does that mean inflation decreased from 18% to 1%?

does the decrease in inflation reflect in the prices which have increased 300% since 1980?

Germany is one more negative quarter away from a recession.

everyone just assumed when Trump said he wanted legal immigration it was for the Mexicans. What if I told you it's because he knew Europes various economies were going to come crashing down once he ended all the free handouts from the US and there would be millions of educated white people fleeing from socialist Europe to America.

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Fuck off, jew.

simple genocide formula

>give free money away to shitskins via exported inflation nomad/offshored dollars and indsutry/tech transfer
>import back the trillions in inflation and the billions in shitskins
>shitskins buy up all your businesses/houses/jobs/industries with the money you gave them
>goy go homeless and OD on chink fent

Whites genocided by capitalist economics

>send industries/money/wealth to asia (japan, korea, taiwan, china, india etc...) for free, since 1950s
>goyim, this is needed in order to contain USSR
>b-but USSR was dissolved by Bush a long time ago
>goyim, this is needed in order to export inflation
>goyim, now we need bring foreign investors, who we gave all your money/jobs to, in order to buy up your house, business, job
>goyim, now you will be jobless, homeless...
>goyim, this is good for the free market
>goyim, please buy chinese fent and OD

inflation is created by printing money and importing shitskins

US exports inflation using the petro dollar system

shitholes get funds (exported inflation) from US and become rich

shitskins from shitholes invade the US

shitskins use the funds (obtained from exported inflation) to buy up US businesses/houses/stocks/assets

imported shitskins create hyperinflation in assets with the funds they obtained from US inflation exported

interesting read

How is this even possible? If this is an option, how is the hard asset, one of the lowest forms of investment, a clear superior answer. What kind of serious fuckery is at play here, this a pity play to get more gibs for the fluchtscheissen?

not the clear superior answer*

This.

I've read that Japan and Denmark are also issuing negative rates

Maybe that $1000 I put under my matress will become $5000 some day user

The sovereign debt bubble is the biggest bubble in human history bigger than anything we’ve ever experienced. Maybe they can inflate it a little bit more by going to negative rates and abit more monetary heroin but how far down the road will that really take us?

Pension funds are forced to buy bonds so basically your pensions are stolen this way kek.

Entire western financial system is always like this. Kikes and their wannabe-kike materialist white boomer goyim at the top always play this game.

Times will get harder. Buy gold. Buy land if you can afford it in case things go really bad for a while. Chances are society never fully collapses, but it just might be fractured for a few months at worst.

And in case things are just a harsh recession, sell your investments now and buy back in later. Even Jow Forumstards knoe this its basic shit.

governments are buying these fucking things from one another in an attempt to halt uncontrolled inflation.

Immensely jewish and immensely destructive

FAKE NEWS

Merkel made diversity Germans strength and imported millions of 3rd worlders. With that much diversity the economy and anything related to value or money is always made perfect

Why else would Merkel have imported millions of 3rd worlders?

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Those are war numbers. We're in for a wild ride boys, learn the weaknesses while you can

this we are overdo for a good wholesale worldwide mass murder.

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this is what happens after decades of "children are a burden, families bad, put career over family" bullshit

So, instead of manning up like Germans normally did, they will just ride out the train as it sinks?
Real question, do the peacemakers who come in to settle down the riots get to occupy permanently?

Their healthcare system is going to be hurting real bad real soon as well. Majority of healthcare costs are spent on a persons last 5 years of life. The first of the boomers are about to enter that last 5 year range (oldest boomers are turning 75 next year, average age of death is 80). Then for the next twenty years you'll see a constant non stop drain on their healthcare systems. I predict within 10 years, combined with the migrant influx who take more than they give, every European country with a heavily socialized healthcare system will see a complete collapse of it. OR, the government starts choosing who lives and dies. Over 75 and have health problems? Sorry. Here's a 10ftX6ft room with a bed to die in.

American/capitalist system designed to have the odds entirely against the goyim. You have a greater chance of being suicided than getting married and having a family.
The capitalist system is designed to make you fail and get you off this planet as quickly as possible
>70% chance of getting cancer
>90% chance of getting std
>80% chance of never getting married
>95% chance of marrying a roastie, if you are lucky enough to get married
>80% chance of divorce
>70% chance of being replaced from work/business by imported h1bs/foreigners
>80% chance of being unemployed or underemployed
>70% chance of getting in severe debt
>50% chance of going homeless
>60% chance of malpractice from imported poojeet doctor
>90% chance of not retiring
>60% chance of being a victim of a fatal attack

Good times are ahead. I can't wait for the happenings, buy a fuck ton of food and ammo.

Its capital flight. Like when the Japanese bought Rockefeller Plaza for $3 Billion in the 80's then turned around and sold it for $1.5 Billion a year later when it was only worth $1 Billion. They were happy because they got half their money back after their economy crashed.

adjusting for inflation, that's what bonds already were
they are just dumb boomer crap

MERKEL IS TRYING TO CRASH THE ECONOMY BEFORE ZION DON CAN BE REELECTED NOOOOOOOOO

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Sure a lot of bullshit you're spouting
How about you fuck off you commie fuck? Don't really feel like breadlines in my lifetime.

What sort of idiot would buy these?

That formula is pretty accurately depicted here in the Vancouver area.

Pol should pay more attention to this, this is what sparks off happenings

good
about time these eurofags realized they’re worthless

same ting happened for the first time since the last recession with USA 10 year bonds
the rates went negative
on average once this happens its 22 months to another recession
tick tock niggers

Except if you believe Germany will exit the EU and its own currency will appreciate 50% against the dollar.

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This. deagel.com/country/forecast.aspx

those migrants sure payed off

>deagel.com/country/forecast.aspx

how would the us lose more then 200 million people from now to 2025?

No can do, friend. With nuclear weapons we entered into the era of mutually assured destruction. The powers that be can only fight proxy battles is the middle east and economic battles.

Really nukes have done more harm on the human race by preventing the natural act of war than they ever have in being used to kill.

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Thank you Swiss poster

>flood country with nigger shitskins
>they don't work and live off welfare instead
>actually cause all low income factory workers to fear going to work or living around low income areas
>all factories want to leave for the safety of their employees and to save their company
>police are being cucked so they can't keep the peace

>india, china, south america is far safer for employees

clown world

>t.Boomer
How about you contradict anything he said instead of crying out in pain as you strike him.

So you buy it to literally just lose money? I don't understand the point of this.

You could speculate on making a profit through currency exchange rates, when buying using dollars.

You could speculate on the market situation. If you believe that bonds will be even worse in the future, your negative bond becomes better in comparison.

Overall, probably a shit-tier investment.

Obviously there is some backroom deals going on to entice this shit deal to buy the bonds. Countries don't buy debt for no reason, its not like black and white there is bargaining chips to be played with. This is why China buys a shitload of US debt.

>ITT poltards fail to understand how fiat currency works

god forbid these cunts may have to actually put their money into the material economy.

>30+ million incels
Think of all the tolls that will be paid.

>give us greenland and everything will okay again

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Never going to happen. Refugee crisis will get 100x worse and we will call it climate refugees.

It will flood Europe once again before 2022

>wow this is retarded
Like most central banks, the ECB influences inflation by setting interest rates. If the central bank wants to act against too high inflation, it generally increases interest rates, making it more expensive to borrow and more attractive to save. By contrast, if it wants to counter too low inflation, it reduces interest rates.

But why punish savers and reward borrowers?

A central bank's core business is making it more or less attractive for households and businesses to save or borrow, but this is not done in the spirit of punishment or reward.

>By reducing interest rates and thus making it less attractive for people to save and more attractive to borrow, the central bank encourages people to spend money or invest.

>ecb.europa.eu/explainers/tell-me-more/html/why-negative-interest-rate.en.html

Europe's aging population is spending less and less the more the demographics get older. same thing happening for 20 years in Japan.

Negative interest rates are a desperate attempt to boost consumption, because consumer spending = earnings for business.

When that fail's to work, capitalism fails, because capitalism is predicated on consumption and spending. Only thing that will be left if you don't want to have a total collapse is huge government deficits.

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Bonds are bought and sold at discounts and premiums. While watching the German economy shit a chicken would be glorious, this means less than you think.

dahnald, the blockade is ready

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Bonds have two components

The Coupon Yield
>The payment, i.e. the interest rate

The Par Value
>The face value/denomination of the bond which you get at bonds maturity

These two components go into pricing the bond.

So while the yield may be negative the bond could be selling significantly below face value.

based mountain jew banker posting on Jow Forums

Digits confirm. Also, instead of 8s, it’s 9s, so the initials will be ii instead of HH. So that’s who savior will be. Who’s initials are i i ?

>investors don't mind lower interest rates. Right now investors are worried about the economy in the long term and they are ready to accept negative interests.

Central banks set interest rates with their monetary policies and open market operations, its called a "rate corridor".

Investors are clueless idiots who do not understand how the system works. /plebs

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This trend is normal for an economy with demographic aging (less youth) and those coupled should allow for a technological revolution, but the fucks up top keep pushing for low skilled immigration and increased consumption.

Trump should buy Germany, and make it the 51st state of the USA. That way, they will have the freedom of speech. They can tell kikes to fuck off and not go to jail for it.

The population ponzi will never fail, in fact any indications of failure will compel (((them))) to increase the numbers of immigrants arriving.