Why hasn't any news reported Finland collapsing? I tried looking at 2 weeks back and no-one is saying anything and I heard they collapsed last Friday when their country went bankrupt because of socialism.
Finland has a fraction off the population and far less niggers and illegal Central American spics. These two groups abuse the system to no end.
Henry Martinez
And it costs zero to have a baby nigger in somalia. Lets build somalia.
Lucas Cooper
Finland has its fair share of shitskins and niggers abusing the system as well, but they're far from being at breaking point like Sweden. The Swedish krona is a garbage valuta today, because not treating shitskins like children would be waycist
Caleb Torres
Perhaps you should get your news info from less cracked out youtubers
Asher Brooks
>encouraging home births That would be racist bernie, not cool
Owen Martin
12k to have a baby? That's bullshit. Cost us $800 which included 3 nights in a hospital room that overlooked the city and was nicer than most hotel rooms.
Carter Edwards
Why does no politician propose exactly copying another countries system? It's all "oh Medicare for all!!" Where we try and reinvent the wheel. Why don't we 100% copy a country like France, for instance, where they spend less money per capita than we do, and have better coverage. We could actually save ourselves money, and get a better service. To my knowledge France basically has government provided insurance that sets the rates, but you pick your doctor. Frogs correct me if I'm wrong.
It doesn't actually cost anything to have a baby, women did it for millenia before obgyn clinics were invented
Jack Jones
>oy vey why do you persecute us so? Don't try and harm our profits that's socialism As a blog post: My wife hates the medical industry too, but only sees big pharma and not (((big pharma)))
Samuel White
Oh damn I'm just getting my visa to go visit there too.
Christopher Smith
Take the medicare budget, use it to invest in foreign healthcare until we have majority control over the hospitals, schools, equipment fabrication. Finally move those businesses over here, and run them exactly the same.
I mean, there's also the logistics problem of getting healthcare across 3 million square miles of land and 350 million people, instead of frances 69 million people and 212,000 miles of land.
It's not like the US is huge, like 50 times bigger, than the average european country. I'm sure that has nothing to do with america's problems.
Nathaniel Allen
Finland doesn't exist.
Nicholas Thomas
Are you obtuse? What the fuck are you talking about investing in their hospitals, schools etc. For? I'm saying copy their models exactly, not literally translocate their facilities. Don't give me the hur durr population size excuse, because I said per capita you retard. If you really want to go that route though, let's compare Texas to france. Roughly the same size, I assume roughly the same population, texas could copy France's model.
Henry Hill
>less money >better coverage Pick one. America leads the world by a huge margin in medical breakthroughs, research, and treatment. That's why we pay more. There's also profit margin and pharma lobbying (legal bribes need to stop), sure, but it also paves the way in the medical field.
Colton Brooks
There are news articles too so it wasn't only some 'cracked out youtuber'
Don't start pulling numbers out of your ass, thanks
Logan Miller
were mega zogged too
Joshua Wright
not only niggers and sand niggers, there was some commie aus fuckwit a couple of weeks ago bragging about how finland is superior because of all the welfare he was abusing dumb cunt
Total tax burden includes also payments that an employer pays on top of your wage.
Jack Roberts
Having a baby is free at home. It's literally nature. Can you imagine if men had to go to the doctor for everything painful that is supposed to happen to them
Adrian Phillips
>Medicacre for all! Who the fuck is paying for it you jew fuck?
Joshua Stewart
See . We could do "Medicare for all" and save money.
Jason Cook
BrUh That's from march. The government fell to shit right before the elections because the ruling party failed in their attempted reforms. One of the ruling parties left the government because they promised to, should the reforms fail. It's not because the system failed per se. Now I'm not denying that our economy isn't the best, or on shaky grounds, but you should get your facts straight and from better sources.
>human childbirth is the most dangerous births out there due to the size of a baby's head >"I'm gonna just have my wife give birth at home because I'm smart" >wife and kid dies
Logan Adams
That's it i'm moving to finland.
Oliver Walker
>France >the average waiting time to see a dentist is one month >the average waiting time to see a gynecologist is six weeks >the average waiting time to see a cardiologist is seven weeks >the average waiting time to see a dermatologist is nine weeks >the average waiting time to see an ophthalmologist is twelve weeks >and so on Be careful what you wish for
Benjamin Hall
>be Finland >mostly ethnically homogeneous >people pay high taxes >the population enjoys the benefits of not being owned by kike pri ate health monopoly and educayshun
How much does a burger pay in tax? How much does health insurance cost? Do burgers save money or lose money by having private health insurance and education over the course of a lifetime?
Sebastian Thompson
No, you stay right where you are, ryssä. Remember the last time your countrymen got the same idea?
I'm already filling out my application, i got my shengen yesterday so i'll be visiting soon and looking to relocate.
Isaiah Garcia
has literally worked for every other species in mammal kingdom for millions of years. maybe don't be a fat McDonald's cow and need muh hospital to take care of the most basic function in life you have
Kevin Myers
For literally one million years, Hominid women have been squatting over ditches and shitting out humans just fine, no medical assistance. Laying down in a bed to deliver actually causes a lot of complications, because the process is supposed to be gravity assisted, with the woman upright, but pushing down. Which came first, the obstetricion, or the baby?
Connor Long
holy shit, that's awful. some medical conditions require immediate attention. They might be dead after four days... I thought France has private and public healthcare system
Parker Sanchez
I sure am glad I have to pay double so Dr. Noseberg can research a new way to inject kids with hormones
Thomas Howard
The baby also usually shifts as contractions intensify, and laying down on a table prevents its from shifting head down (most of its weight is in its head, so in an upright, squatting women, its head would naturally shift down under its own weight) and causes most instances of umbilical-cord related emergency, as the baby shifts with no direction and tangles itself.
Carson Davis
Funny how retards like you fail to realize that one of the the few things that make a country good is homogeneity. ie thinking like a high time-preference nigger, you fail to realize your children will never benefit from the fruits of my society, since it's them that will be its downfall.
Robert Richardson
They don't make you wait if you have a medical condition that is possibly life-threatening. You will go first in line.
Man with a bullet hole in chest goes to a hospital in Finland, he is told to wait like everyone else. He waits 10 hours until finally, the doctor takes him in. The doctor says that he is sorry but he can't help him because the Finnish government has denied his care.
Gavin Carter
Average waiting time to see a gp in England is 19 days So before you've had any tests you've wasted three weeks Then you have various tests Then you are diagnosed Then you get on the waiting list to get treatment Then if you are still alive you get to start your treatment A year from first appointment to starting treatment is not unusual I had to take two years off work to wait for a routine foot operation - would you call that free healthcare? It took my brother eight months to get a tooth pulled out on the NHS Fuck the NHS
Jackson Sanders
Based huhposter
Noah Jackson
>working age population shrinks Meanwhile unemployment is at 25% or something. There are plenty of workers available.
James Murphy
I live in CA. My grandmother was diagnosed with cancer in April. She had a lump on the side of her neck. She had a scan and they confirmed it was cancer. I shit you not, the very next week she was on the operating table. They removed the cancer and found a secondary cancer. Neither had metastasized, so they got it all out in one operation. She has just completed radiation therapy.
The thing is, she has private health insurance through Kaiser. If she had state health insurance, or Obama care, she would have went to the county hospital and probably died 6 months later waiting to be diagnosed. State run healthcare here is a fucking joke. My job is working with Government employees on a daily basis, as a group they have no oversight or quality control. Once you get a government job it is hard as fuck to get fired, so they stop giving a shit about anything.
Samuel Flores
>Once you get a government job it is hard as fuck to get fired, so they stop giving a shit about anything. Spot on. >I shit you not, the very next week she was on the operating table. They removed the cancer and found a secondary cancer. Neither had metastasized, so they got it all out in one operation. She has just completed radiation therapy. Awesome. Hopefully she'll live long enough to witness the great happening.
Levi Miller
The Laura of wet blankets enters the thread.
Instead of participating in thread discussion, this Laura just wants to point out that you're currently at the edge of the board and about to die. =^_^=
Shut the fuck up spastic No one is denied care and emergency stuff is top notch and works fast
William Powell
Hey, folks, if you want to fight this Sanders guy you must read the Clowar Piven paper that defines the strategy to get the US into a socialist system. I find it unbelievable that a board like pol doesn't have people spamming it with the actual text of the cloward piven strategy. commondreams.org/news/2010/03/24/weight-poor-strategy-end-poverty
Elijah Lee
reminder >bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47496326 >Finland's entire government has resigned over its failure to achieve a key policy goal on social welfare and healthcare reform. top kek
>importing people who don't work Obvious white genocide trick is obvious
Kayden Watson
>how does one get rich in Finland They don't
Sebastian Ortiz
Finland has the smartest people in Europe, if not the world. Highly educated, hyper autistic. It isn't bogged down with 13/50s.
Connor Gray
Instead we pay a fuckton of taxes. We still pay 12k per baby but Miss Cuntster doesn't realize how socialism works.
Maybe you are a leech who lives on welfare so you wouldnt know what income taxes are?
Xavier Campbell
>$60 to have a baby
user, are you really so dumb as to think that the taxpayers aren't paying the balance of this? Imagine how much your average Fin pays in taxes. That would pay for a looooong hospital stay.
Also, nobody in the US actually pays $12k for a baby delivery. People are either on ACA, Medicare/Medicaid, private insurance, or simply give false info and skip the bill. Use your fucking head.
Liam Campbell
Maybe if liberals didn’t perpetuate the welfare state and encourage unemployment for minorities, then the US wouldnt have these cost issues.
>Be careful what you wish for I wish we had that short waiting times. When I go to the US there are signs saying "x minutes wait in emergency room". Here it's often up to twenty hours.
Asher Hill
>MUST
Parker Gutierrez
>were mega zogged too You have to fight it, don't let them get you too
Xavier Sanchez
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF
Brayden Rogers
>Finnish income tax rate is 51.60%
Exactly. The avg wage in Finland is roughly $40k/yr. Over a 40 year working life, you're talking $800k in taxes. Of course, this doesn't even address the different demographics and culture between the US and Finland that make direct healthcare cost comparisons fairly useless, as well.
Adrian Kelly
They pay $800K for their healthcare and they have months or even years long waiting times. Someone with bullet hole in chest have to wait hours to get treated (and even then govt may deny the care). Why aren't they revolting already?
Cooper Perez
post finnish women. we must see if it's worth saving.
Cameron Gutierrez
FPBP. This would just multiply the nigger problem.
It doesn't actually cost $60 - it is subsidized, heavily. It costs others tax payers.
Nolan Rogers
At least you don’t go bankrupt afterwards though. Or postpone treatment for a long time because you can’t afford it only to later find out you’re dying and if only you would have went earlier you could have prevented it.
Adrian Anderson
Women are like reverse ATMs
Nolan Torres
There is a finite amount of good doctors. They can accept a finite number of patients. When I had relatives on Medicaid, every doctor accepting patients was a Pajeet who wouldn't blink if you died in front of him/her and would just shrug (or argue) if subsequent imaging based on a second opinion demonstrated error.
As with everything, the only legal way to get away from diversity is to pay through the nose for it.
Does France have a 10% diabetic population that costs $400 BILLION every single year for care? No. Would a european model work at the state level somewhere in the Pacific Northwest? Sure...mayble? But all of the US? We already spend more than half as much of our military budget on fatassess.
Brayden Peterson
Actually, people in socialist countries go bankrupt because of medical costs.
>government collapsed >president collapsed >Finland collapsed Yet how have I not noticed? The last government resigned in march just before the election not because welfare bad, but because inadequate politicians couldn't force through their shit social service reform. They basically rage-quit. A new shit government was elected, so nothing has changed and nothing has collapsed. The president's also fine and populat, hanging out with putin atm. And the video in OP is total cringe you dumb fucks
Robert Johnson
STFU, Tyrone! And why would you bring up Sipilä? Does your nigger brain confuse prime minister with president?
William Lewis
You didn't even notice when they stopped paying you $600/month? You know... the Universal Basic Income that Finland paid its citizens until in 2018 Finland stopped paying it because their economy was crashing?
William Fisher
>Imagine smoking this much crack Shlomo the gig is up
Zachary Taylor
I was not one of those 2000 unemployed people chosen for the shit experiment. Shit because it's not really an UBI experiment if your only test group consists entirely of unemployed people.