Who would have thought that repeatedly inhaling thick clouds of oil vapor directly into your lungs might damage your lungs?
On a side note, it makes your skin really oily. It comes out through your pores. That's because 'what goes in, must come out'. And you are inhaling OIL.
Do you know how much oil is consumed daily in an average meal?
Angel Anderson
consuming and inhaling it in your lungs is not the same
Christopher Nelson
Cigarettes still do a lot more damage to your body, not to mention, it smells like shit.
Robert Johnson
They do, but 15 year olds vaping all day for years isn't exactly healthy
Daniel Clark
You sound as incompetent as a gun grabber leaf. Vape liquid isn't made of oil It's made of glycerine and propylene glycol not oil. The closest oil gets to being inhaled is that a few select flavors _can_ be made with essential oils (such as cinnamon oil for red hots flavors) almost nobody uses these flavors because of the possible danger the essential oil poses. Even if essential oil is used as a flavoring you're only talking like three drops so how the fuck does three drops of oil "make your skin really oily"?
I smoked cigarettes for 28 years, quit. Then I smoked tobacco pipe and cigars for about 5 years. Then I vaped for 2 or 3 years.
Cigarettes were the worst, by far. Tobacco pipe and cigars...I don't think were that bad...I did shallow inhaling (which is you don't inhale all the way, you only bring the smoke in to the back of your throat and then exhale...usually through the nose). My concern with smoking pipe and cigar was I started thinking about getting cancer in my nasal cavity, because I always noticed how black my mucus was when I would blow my nose! Vaping took a while to get use to it. It is harsh for beginners. I vaped low wattage for a few months and then moved up to subohm. Within a year I was vaping consistently around a 100 Watts. Vaped watching TV, on the computer, in my car...my lungs weren't as hashed as cigarettes, but I can't really say they were any better than if I was still smoking pipe and cigar. I vaped around 3% nicotine level...very low. It is not as harsh, but you find yourself vaping moar because your body isn't getting the nicotine it thinks it is getting. My vape mod was right by my bed and I was vaping when I would wake up at night. Then I started to cough and cough a lot moar, but nothing really came up. So, I was thinking is all that oil just hanging out in my lungs and my coughing isn't really getting rid of it? Then I got a really bad sore throat with a cough almost a year ago. I stopped vaping for three days to help my lungs and throat heal...then after three days, I said FUCK IT! I never vaped ever again, and it really wasn't that hard to quit once I put my desire to quit into it. I hope all smokers and vapers will find the strength to finally quit!
Colton Young
yeah, this
Daniel Gonzalez
Well at least smoking cigarettes makes you look cool. Vaping is just killing yourself and looking stupid while you do it.
Connor Martinez
bro. I've smoked cigars for 6 years. How much were you smoking a day? I have never had black or brown mucus. WTF man.
Chase Baker
You probably weren't paying attention. At first I thought it was just dirt from my job, but now my mucus is clean...all I can say is that when I was smoking pipe and cigar, my mucus looked dirty. But if you aren't exhaling through your nose, then you probably haven't had the problem with dirty looking mucus.
Anyone here use nic salts? I'm looking to supplement my ciggie smoking in private or while in a vehicle. I used the eGo T in the past and I liked that. I normally smoke American Spirit Menthol.
Evan Bailey
No shit nigger but explain to me the side effects and give evidence
Jaxson Fisher
There's no oil in e-juice you fucking braindead mong.
Asher Jones
smoking is degenerate, and all the masculinity myth built around it a product of soulless marketers
Joseph Wilson
Source
Asher Moore
>Doesn't discribe or name the disease Worthless
Lincoln Morgan
Are you saying your father and grandfather were so stupid and impressionable that they fell for marketing? Kill yourself you kike. This is just another step in removing "toxic" masculinity from western society. One more step in the Jew's plan to kill the west. You kikes will never understand family bonds.
Christian Richardson
>Are you saying your father and grandfather were so stupid and impressionable that they fell for marketing? yes, you dumb cunt
Juan Fisher
Imagine being such a nigger you call a good grade component of antifreeze that used for viscosity and lubrication antifreeze
Jaxon Collins
Alright, and your point is? Something being bad for you isn't grounds to make it illegal for people to do so I'm not sure what you want or are trying to prove.
Gabriel Garcia
Like I said kike, you believe your forefathers to be swindling rats. You cannot understand the respect and wisdom of your elders. You don't respect tradition, you only care about short term gains. Disgusting and pathetic.
thats exactly what happenned to your pappi and grandpappi you redneck moron. Kikes fucking marketed it to them.
Jordan Campbell
no... the person selling it was a swindling rat. See the difference? Man I hope you get an infection and dont take antibiiotics bc your gret gret grandpappi didnt need no kike pills
Dominic Scott
>massive amounts of lung failures reported >it changes the shape of blood vessels >lol guiz itz all gud just keep vaping
Leo Adams
Prolly the tobacco companies want it regulated so they can monopolize the industry.
Ethan Mitchell
So then what are you suggesting faggot? People are allowed to make their own decisions, even if it negatively impacts their health.
Adam Gutierrez
You're right, when you eat it way more fat ends up in your blood.
Hudson Peterson
How long before your cough went away?
Tyler Moore
what were they vaping faggot? I odnt think you will say bc ur argument falls apart
Camden Wright
Push for regulating a majority unregulated industry. Government must have their pound of flesh.
Tyler Cook
Half a million people die every year from cigarettes. >I sleep
>let people die >(((rubbing hands))) >it's free will goy
Brandon Butler
>food grade Theres a lot of shit that is classified as food grade but should never ever enter your body. Saw dust is considered food grade.
Eli Collins
Its important because now there is tangible, undeniable evidence that vaping is harmful. This is a dream weapon for people who want to regulate it.
Andrew Butler
That's chickscience.
Adam Evans
nice try william morris
Chase Jones
Again, you not suggesting anything to the conversation, just X is bad. Congratulations tons of shit people do is bad for them. I don't see you crusading against those.
And yes, if someone wants to vape I'm not going to stop them. If someone wants to eat themselves into a coma at mcdonalds I'm not going to stop them. If someone is going to drink themselves to death, I'm not going to fucking stop them. Adults can make decisions on what they do for themselves.
Grayson Parker
And sawdust is a perfectly fine filler and additive of fiber into your diet, there is nothing unhealthy about eating sawdust, and considering how callorically dense our food is already, adding calorie-free fillers might even be healthier.
baton glacier mint is the best nic salt juice i've ever had. 8 bucks for 10 ml where i am. comes in 25 and 50mg
Chase Foster
>Here's a link to my sources Congrats, you are a faggot. As an example, see attached a picto-screen-graph-shot with sources quoted. If you want to make outrageous claims to incite people to action against the evils of tobacco consumption alternatives, then you need to post something with a bit more meat on it, like proof. Proof is what separates us from the liberals.
I saw this emaciated hipster douch nozzle blow a huge fucking cloud of that shit, it smelled like someone put 100 watermelon flavored lolipops in a microwave for an hour. A cyclist douch drove through the cloud and practically disappeared. Smokers never bothered me. These vapefags on the other hand are annoying AF.
Ian Johnson
How is that? Actually sounds pretty fucking amazing.
Wyatt Wright
That's tar buildup. No joke lmao. You aren't supposed to exhale smoke out of the nose.
Noah Ramirez
Up until the 70s I think rapeseed oil (canola oil) was not considered safe for human consumption and was only used as a lubricant. Suddenly it's in practically everything at the grocery store.
Alexander Powell
>Smokes through nose
>Is shocked when body's natural air filter works as advertised.
Thomas Robinson
Fuck off paddy it doesn't take a fucking genius (or even a fucking irishman at a fucking stretch) to understand that shit you buy from china and liquids you buy from dodgy paki shops you vapourise are gonna be bad for your fucking lungs. You fucking spastic
Easton Morgan
Massive amounts of lung failures? You have literally no evidence for this
Andrew Adams
Fuckin rat, it doesn't take a fucking genius to answer my question. But you can't do that now fuck off you sad little cretin
Liam Martinez
Yep, welcome to clown world where the """news""" is a PR front for companies trying to shill products or hurt competitors instead of reporting news.
Tyler Brown
They were successfully tied lung cancer to smoking tobacco in a clinical study. They tried relentlessly to expose mice and even dogs to tobacco smoke and never were able to induce cancer. Then they switched to softer epidemiological studies where some old fuck would get cancer, they'd ask if he ever smoked, if he did, even decades ago, they'd mark smoking as the cause. That's how they get those insanely high numbers. I'm not saying smoking is healthy, it's definitely not. Let's just keep our facts straight.
Kayden Campbell
Okay. This is why I love pol. I own an eliquid company. Is it healthy? No. Is it better than regular cigarettes? Significantly. Do you know what you’re talking about? No not at all. There is no oil. Half the crap videos in this thread saying “hur dur” lung disease has to do with thc carts; you just need to read the fine print. Doesn’t anyone find it suspicious that vaping has been around for more than 10 years and only NOW you’re hearing about kids dying from vaping? Jesus fuck I thought pol was smarter than this. You may not like vaping, you may think people who vape are faggots, and that’s fine. But to sit here and tell me that it’s somehow worse than cigarettes, or even remotely close to as damaging, you must all be completely fucking brain dead. It really absolutely unequivocally shows how little you tardos read into shit. So why all of the scare all of a sudden? Juul. Juul is 35% owned by Altria. What better way to get every other player off the market? Here’s an interesting fact. Did you know that the wife of the head of the Altria (Richard Mills) is the spearhead of parents against kids vaping? You think that’s bad? Keep reading. Scott Gottlieb, who recently resigned from the FDA after enacting a bunch of bullshit regulation, now is a board member of chantrix, you know, the people who make the nicotine inhaler? You guys have no idea how deep this rabbit hole goes. There’s examples like this every day in this industry.
tl;dr: corrupt corporate fucks are taking away my livelihood, and pol fell for it.
> We cannot categorically say that e-cigarette use increases cancer risk, but e-cigarette use may cause precursor events to cancer, such as lung inflammation and DNA damage in the lungs. These products can also alter vital signs such as heart rate and blood pressure.
Even your potato gathering government understands there is a concern. Bashing your head into a wall might be ok for bit but eventually you're gonna do some damage. But I imagine you could give yours considerably more knocks than others before anyone notices a change in your retarded behavior.
Andrew Johnson
Head of Altria’s risk management team* sorry wanted to make that clear.
your conspiracy theory is misplaced. It's actually a campaign by the media and lawyerfags to hustle altria out of money because of 'muh deadly vaping' hysteria. Altria should've never invested in juul, now they're going to get some massive class-action bullshit suit against them
Jeremiah Cox
It was and then underage teens and fedora lords started puffing fat clouds. I haven't smoked at all since I bought a Juul at the end of April this year, but those fat coil/giant battery/cologne bottle type vape rigs are for cunts
Nicholas Russell
Why is what a private citizen puts into his body Any concern of yours? You work for the tobacco company?