Sunday Biblestudies: Sinners Welcome

Methuselah

Eʹnoch lived for 65 years and then became father to Me·thuʹse·lah.+ 22 After becoming father to Me·thuʹse·lah, Eʹnoch continued to walk with the true God* for 300 years. And he became father to sons and daughters. 23 So all the days of Eʹnoch amounted to 365 years. 24 Eʹnoch kept walking with the true God.+ Then he was no more, for God took him.+

> 25 Me·thuʹse·lah lived for 187 years and then became father to Laʹmech.+ 26 After becoming father to Laʹmech, Me·thuʹse·lah lived for 782 years. And he became father to sons and daughters. 27 So all the days of Me·thuʹse·lah amounted to 969 years, and then he died.

28 Laʹmech lived for 182 years and then became father to a son. 29 He named him Noah,*+ saying: “This one will bring us comfort* from our labor and from the painful toil of our hands because of the ground that Jehovah has cursed.”+ 30 After becoming father to Noah, Laʹmech lived for 595 years. And he became father to sons and daughters. 31 So all the days of Laʹmech amounted to 777 years, and then he died.

32 After Noah reached 500 years of age, he became father to Shem,+ Ham,+ and Jaʹpheth.+

No idea on that bit to be honest, but I feel the Greek Septuagint is at least better than the Masoretic Text which seems to have been made specifically to enable pilpul around Jesus not being Messiah. It goes like this
Jesus says he is high priest. Kikes said he cant be, since only Levites can be priet, but he is from Judah. So Jesus says he is High Priest in the order of Melchizedek. Now Kikes claim Shem is Melchizedek, making his order still the Levites. However Melchizedek talked with Abraham, and Shem lived ~600-700 years before Abraham according to the Greek Septuagint. So they delete 100 years from each of Shems descendents up to Abraham making their lives overlap shortly and enable the claim that Shem is Melchizedek.
If the Masoretic text Shem would have had to live longer then the next 6 or so generation of his line, surviving them all.

On the reason behind the existence of evil and ultimately our purpose:
First we must define evil. Evil is whats wrong in Gods eyes. God gave us free will, and free will requires the abillity to choose wrong, or else we would not be able to choose at all. If choosing wrong is evil then there cant be free will without evil

God creates Humans in his image, and he loves every one of them that is and will be. Satan, being basically a spoiled Child doesnt like us getting our fathers attention and thus tries to show him how lowly we are by corrupting us. He does this by bringing the fruit of knowledge of good and evil to us, which while likely intended for us eventually, we werent ready to eat yet as we were basically little babies in adult bodies.
With the fruit now Eaten we had to learn of both, Good and Evil. We knew good from our father and from being in Eden, but what was missing is Evil.
The best way to learn is to experience, thus we have to experience evil to learn of it, and we couldnt have evil in Paradise thus were send out, possibly falling from a spiritual state of existence into this mortal and material state. This world is sandbox/a tutorial so to speak. A containment reality where we can fuck around without being able to fuck up cosmically. Here we are meant to experience Evil, and Satan trying to corrupt us still is doing so by unleashing every plague he has up his sleeve onto us that we may fall from faith while simultaniously subverting what good and evil is. God loving and trusting us lets this happen since its the best way to learn of evil for us in the first place, and because he knows we will still praise God after everything. This is essentially the story of Job on a global scale.

Basically we are meant to learn good choices, and what this good actually is

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Yes, we have free will and God allows us to choose - it is within our power to choose right or wrong.

Gods purpose was not that sin was inevitable, as that two would remove free will. His original purpose was a earth filled with perfect people who could live forever, exercising their free will to worship him.

Unfortunately Adam and Even didn't even have children before sinning (who would have been perfect .. interesting to think about) and we are all descendants of Adam and thus sinful. Jesus came to balance that as a ransom.

>bible is leftist

>13If a man lies with a man as with a woman, they have both committed an abomination. They must surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
anti faggotry

>3Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons, 4because they will turn your sons away from following Me to serve other gods. Then the anger of the LORD will burn against you, and He will swiftly destroy you.
against racemixing. Now often its claimed this merely means to not marry someone of another believe regardless of race however
>12 "Beware, my son, of every kind of fornication. First of all, marry a woman from among the descendants of your ancestors; do not marry a foreign woman, who is not of your father's tribe; for we are the descendants of the prophets. Remember, my son, that Noah, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, our ancestors of old, all took wives from among their kindred. They were blessed in their children, and their posterity will inherit the land.

>8When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, when He divided the sons of man, He set the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God.
speaks against mass immigration

>1“Truly, truly, I tell you, whoever does not enter the sheepfold by the gate, but climbs in some other way, is a thief and a robber.
against illegal immigration

>1No man with crushed or severed genitals may enter the assembly of the LORD.
against trannies

>19If you are harvesting in your field and forget a sheaf there, do not go back to get it. It is to be left for the foreigner, the fatherless, and the widow, so that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.
basically National Socialism.

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Any recommendations on which version of the bible to read as a first timer?

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Issue is the Masoretic Text which the KJV is based on already includes corruptions
The Masoretic text which most are based upon have some corruptions like deleting 100 years of the life of each of Shems descendents to Abraham to enable some pilpul around Jesus not being high priest
bible.ca/manuscripts/Bible-chronology-charts-age-of-earth-date-Genesis-5-11-Septuagint-text-LXX-original-autograph-corrupted-Masoretic-MT-primeval-5554BC.htm

The Aramaic Targum is an interesting source, for example stating that Eve "desired" the angel giving more fuel to the serpent seed theory.
Other than that I personally I like the Berean Study Bible and when something weird comes up I look in the original script (Biblehub is really good for it) and look up the different words or the word in question up seperately and compare it to different translation (for which biblehub is again really good)

biblehub.com/
clicking a certain word for example brings up the original greek or hebrew word that was used iE

As sourcetext i would try to find something based on the greek septuagint
However from what I saw the core teachings, if read with an honest mind are still there in all of them. Some are just more prone to enable pilpul based on wordings

Best modern English translation (free online and with audio):

jw.org/en/publications/bible/study-bible/books/

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Thanks for the words of wisdom

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Are there any good arguments against sedevacatistism?

What, aside from the fact that submission to the Bishop of Rome is the entire basis of the Catholic faith?

But there have been false claimants to the papacy before right?

>Satan has offspring with Eve?
There are many Satans, not one. Jesus called Peter Satan when he doubted Christ's word that his death would not be the end of their ministry. There are many Satans, not one Satan. There are many antichrists, not one. A serpent is a name for a wicked and deceitful person. Trees are metaphors for lineages and bloodlines. Adam and Eve were not the first people on this earth, and the Genesis account does not make sense if they were. When Cain was sent into exile, he took a wife and built a city. Where did his wife come from? Whom did he build a city for?

The answer is obvious. Other humans were already here. They were the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Having knowledge of something in the Old Testament is used as a way of saying someone has first-hand experience with something. The "Tree" of the "knowledge of good and evil" was a bloodline or lineage that possessed first-hand experience of good but still actively chose evil anyway. Which is to say, they were a race or tribe that knew of God and actively rejected Him.

God allowed Adam and Eve to do whatever they wished, but forbade them to eat of the fruit of that tree. As we see in later writings, "eating fruit" was an often-used metaphor for sexual intercourse in the ancient world. The euphamism is used repeatedly in the Songs of Solomon. So the original and sole commandment of God was "do not racemix with this existing tribe that lives outside of the garden."

But a serpent, i.e. a wicked man, stole into the garden with ill intent. He approached Adam, who rejected him, but when he tempted Eve, he was successful, and seduced her. She then returned to Adam and convinced him to engage in sin as well, though the wording used does not make it clear as to whether Adam also had sex with this man or if he was simply accepting the fact that she had done so.

There have been antipopes before, but they were always people claiming to be Pope in opposition to the actual Pope, who has been validly elected.

The sedevacantist position is that there hasn't been any valid Pope since whatever Pope they liked last. I suppose it makes sense if a particular sedevacantist believes that Benedict or John Paul II was the last valid Pope, since that leaves the opportunity or the living valid cardinals they appointed to elect an actual Pope. But if they believe that the last valid Pope was before Vatican II, then that means that a valid Pope can never be elected again, since all the valid Cardinals are dead, which means the Catholic Church is dead.

When speaking of Satan people generally refer to THE Satan, Ha-Satan which is differentiated from the common "adversary", the common Satan.
And while there were likely preadamites around, those are not what the tree of knowledge/serpent refers to.
otherwise mostly correct though.

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This ties directly into the story of Cain and Abel, because in God's punishment of Eve, God directly implies that she is ALREADY pregnant. If we assume that the man called a serpent successfully impregnated Eve, then that would make Cain the bastard son of Eve and this man. Abel was Adam's son. And thus the story of Cain and Abel makes so much more sense, because Cain was the firstborn but Adam naturally favored Abel over him. This bred jealousy between them, and ultimately resulted in Cain murdering Abel in a fit of rage. Cain also exhibited all of the behaviors and attitudes we associate with happas and mulattos today, i.e. a short temper, a neurotic attitude, and a degree of hatred towards the white part of their heritage.

Modern day Jews are the descendents of Cain. Jesus directly states this to be true in John 8, where he refutes the Pharisee's claim that they are of the seed of Abraham, saying "if yea were of the seed of Abraham, then the works of Abraham yea would do." He then goes on to call them a generation of serpents and vipers, and to say that their true father is "the devil, who was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in the truth." This is an exact description of Cain, who was the first murderer recorded in the Genesis account, and was indeed a liar, since he lied to God Himself when God asked him what had happened to his brother.

Jews are not from the line of Abraham. They are Canaanites, the seed of the biblical serpent of the garden. Aryans are the children of Abraham, and our conquest of the world is a fulfillment of God's promise to Abraham. The descendents of the twelve tribes of Israel are the modern day "white" races.

It's hard to tell whether Anderson is a traditional Baptist Easy-Believist who pretends to believe reprobation doctrine to be edgy, or whether he is a hardcore Calvinist who pretends to believe in Easy-Believism to fit in among other Baptists.

Satan is an individual

John 8:44

>44 You are from your father the Devil, and you wish to do the desires of your father.a That one was a murderer when he began,b and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie.

Job 1:6

>6 Now the day came when the sons of the true God*a entered to take their station before Jehovah,b and Satanc also entered among them.

The original sin was eating the fruit, in willful disobedience. God wanted Adam and Eve to procreate “be fruitful and become many and fill the earth.”

>Genesis 3:6
>6 Consequently, the woman saw that the tree was good for food and that it was something desirable to the eyes, yes, the tree was pleasing to look at. So she began taking of its fruit and eating it.a Afterward, she also gave some to her husband when he was with her, and he began eating it.b

Were they always in opposition?

From what I understand, the sedevacatist view is that we are in the end times and St. Peter himself will be the next pope when Jesus returns he will be resurrected basically MC Judgment Day.

Genesis 4:1-26

4 Now Adam had sexual relations with his wife Eve, and she became pregnant.a When she gave birth to Cain,b she said: “I have produced* a male child with the help of Jehovah.” 2 Later she again gave birth, to his brother Abel.

I think that that is a very specific kind of sedevacantism, and I'm sure there are some Churches that believe it.

Sedevacantists use various arguments to explain away the problem of there being no Pope. It depends on the specific Church. This is why we have the Church authorities in the first place, to stop silly disagreements like these

The basics of Satanism
satan (saturn) meant something like "obstacle". everyone had his own satan. someone who incites him to do bad things, a bad habbit, an addiction, anythinghe should overcome. But then there also is THE Satan, Ha-Satan.

6 is the number of man, and his weakness. greed, egoism, egocentrism, all the materialistic desires, and i believe of this plane existence in general (the earth is tilted 23,4 degrees, or if you count from the other direction 66.6 degrees, life, on this planet at least, is made of carbon, the 6th element, with 6 protons, 6 neutrons and 6 electrons. 6 directions in the material realm, north, south, west, east, up and down, 6 sides of the cubes. Think About how molecules and icecrystals form in hexagonal shapes. saturn being the 6th planet with hexagon on its northpole). 666 is going over the top with the materialistic desires, pursuing and desiring only those and making you follow the path of satan.

The black cube of satan is a symbol for this material, 3 dimensional realm, and the time we fear is running out, which will let us die, and which causes us to do harm to others in order to lead a better life ourself. by thus the black cube also symbolizes time and death without either we wouldnt have these earthly desires causing us to do evil.
The 666 could also stand for the dimensions of the cube, 6x6x6, entrapping us in the 6, our weakness and temptations.

Our sole puprose, as i believe it, is to overcome (our) satan, proof we arent easily corrupted wether satan is just a symbol or a real entity. So while this world isnt evil itself, this realm of existence kind of makes the corruption a lot easier. When people worship satan, they dont worship some deity or enthity (well, some do that too). they worship this material world, the materialistic egoistic desires, and themselves

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Pic related. those 7 circles are called the seed of life.
One interpretation i saw is that its meant to symbolize the creation week, or symbolize the same as the creation week does in the bible
The center being conciousness, that expands to the circle. The conciousness then moves to the border of the circle where it expands again creating the second circle and so on until you got the seed of life. the 6 days of creation around the 7th one, God, the seed of life or whatever you want to call it.
By connecting the points of intersection you gain the (black) cube, as above mentioned symbolizing the material world and as such Satans rule.

I have to say here that the 6, and all these patterns are commonly seen as a positive symbol as it is the blueprint of creation of life, but its only the material part of this, and according to the Bible the source of temptations, the Satan's, which we should work on overcoming with

So in this light atheism is low key satanism as both are about the material, about power, wealth, the flesh.
Christianity is about rejection of the flesh and embrace of the spirit. Where christianity tells you everything is God, thus you yourself too and everything else it means everything is connected to you while satanism and atheism teach seperation. no underlying connections and thus seperation leads to worship of the self, and only caring about the ego.
Where satanists and atheist desire to be blessed in this life and having it comfy christianity tell you you will have it hard in this life, prosecuted and attacked for doing the right thing, so you may have delight in the next live instead

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I disagree. The original sin for women was racemixing, the act Eve committed, and cuckoldry as well as possibly homosexuality for men, which is what Adam did when he accepted Eve's adultery instead of throwing her out of the garden himself and potentially also having sex with the serpent depending on how you choose to interpret it.

I agree that God wanted Adam and Eve to procreate and fill the world with their offspring. And does it not make sense that in that particular mission, the most singularly important thing would be to NOT intermix with the ungodly and wicked people who are already there? God commanding Adam and Eve to ignore an apple on a tree he himself grew in the garden makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. But God commanding Adam and Eve to avoid miscegenation at all costs during their mission of filling the earth makes perfect sense.

There are many different Satans because that is how a strict interpretation of the bible tells the tale. Satan is the man in the garden who seduced and miscegenated with Eve, but he is also standing in heaven and having an amenable conversation with God about Job. But he is also banished from God's presence, and actively averse to it. And then he stood in God's presence again when he tempted Jesus on the mountain, but was somehow unaware that he was IN the presence of God, which was never a problem before. Students of the original Hebrew understand this, because some instances of Satan have a definite article attached to them (i.e. "the Satan") while others do not (simply "satan"). So Satan is both used as a proper noun to refer to a specific entity, which we presume to be Lucifer, but is also a term used repeatedly to refer to seemingly ANY human or angel who sets themselves against God's will.

If the original sin was willful disobedience, the Genesis account would have named Adam and Eve satans as well. But it did not. Because their crime was racemixing, cuckoldry, and possibly homosexuality.

What translation is that?

The bible has no problem talking about Angels having relations with humans. It the reason God brought the flood. There is no reason to use a figurative illustration when speaking of Adam and Eve, in the same book of Genesis.

>Genesis 6:1-22
>6 Now when men started to grow in number on the surface of the ground and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of the true God*a began to notice that the daughters of men were beautiful. So they began taking as wives all whom they chose.

The line of Cain ended with the flood .. no descendants of Cain are alive today:

son of Noah,y
son of Laʹmech,z
son of Me·thuʹse·lah,a
son of Eʹnoch,b
son of Jaʹred,c
son of Ma·haʹla·le·el,d
son of Ca·iʹnan,e
son of Eʹnosh,f
son of Seth,g
son of Adam,h
son of God.

Right but what do you do when they conflict?
Francis, John Paul II, Benedict etc all have said and done things that go against established dogma put fourth by previous popes and have changed Catholic dogma, when prior popes have taught infallibly that the church's dogma cannot change.
Do the old popes and dogma supercede or are they trumped?

You left out mention of Adam's first wife, Lilith, who was such a bitch that god kicked her out of Eden and made Eve for Adam.

Its the New World Translation

King James Version say the same:

4 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

NLT

4 Now Adam[a] had sexual relations with his wife, Eve, and she became pregnant. When she gave birth to Cain, she said, “With the Lord’s help, I have produced[b] a man!” 2 Later she gave birth to his brother and named him Abel.

people mixed. Chances are at least some of the genes survived. Noah was pure in his generation, same isnt said about his wife/wives. As such she could have carried over Cains genes.

you still fail to see that the Bible makes a difference between the common satan, which can be anyone, and the heavenly accuser, THE Satan, Ha-Satan.
As such the Satan/Devil in Revelations is identified as the serpent
>2He seized the dragon, the ancient serpent who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years.
Yes, racemixing is bad, Eve and the serpent did fornicate and Cain was the off spring, and there were people around before Adam. But the serpent does not resemble these people. The serpent is one of the angels, that probably had a role in creation and then was mad that all this was just so God could create humans which the angels then should take care upon instead of letting these low humans serve the high and mighty angels. >And Adam knew Hava his wife, who had desired the Angel; and she conceived, and bare Kain; and she said, I have acquired a man, the Angel of the Lord.
also mentions the serpent was an angel

None of those Popes have said anything contradicting the Dogma. The Dogma are a set of about 250 beliefs that have been infallibly defined at councils. They make up part of a larger concept known as Catholic doctrine.

Some people, including non-sedevacantists within the Catholic Church, have asserted that the Popes have gone against the teachings, usually in an ambiguous way.

For example, a while ago, Pope Francis published a letter intended for priests in South America. Most of it was pretty normal, however, there was a line referencing the fact that divorced and civilly remarried couples may receive communion in certain situations. Some people in the Church interpreted this as endorsing communion for people in mortal sin...

actually this is a bit of a complicated point hang on...

Perhaps (the Bible counts lineage from the male, not the female) ... but we are all sons of Noah

Mods moved your christcuck spam to Jow Forums yesterday. Are you going for a ban?

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I got off track.

Okay, there is no official doctrine that says what happens if a Pope says something heretical. There have been theologeons who have speculated on what might happen. And some have suggested that if a Pope does do something like that, he ceases to be Pope.
Some argue that it is impossible for the Pope to speak heresy because he has the protection of the Holy Spirit.

But none of these positions are doctrine. They are just speculation. Even if one of the Popes are heretics, that doesn't necessarily mean that they are automatically not Popes according to doctrine.

I am hanging on

obviously it does count from the father, Christianity is patriachic. gives just more reason to assume though that somewhere along the line, via mother, the corrupted genes survived the flood.

>giving a fuck about mods and jannies
lurk more faggot

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And on the point of Pope Francis' letter, and "The Dubia Controversy", it concerns a lit of complicate Catholic moral law, concerning things like mortal sin, venial sin, pastoralism, reception of the Eucharist, etc so I won't elaborate on it too much

If you want to research it for yourself, and get an idea of both sides of the controversy, it could be interesting. If you are interested in theology

Our genes were corrupted from Adam, not from Cain.

Romans 5:13 New International Version

Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned--

You reported my thread earlier, I hope your computer breaks you jew.

I thought pope leo said that heretics cannot be considered Catholic and therefore are unable to be valid bishops or popes.

Are you Catholic? What do you think about Francis aiding and abedding pedophiles and homos?

So I'm raised liberal Catholic. Went through baptism, communion and such (not sure how the these three events are called in english). But I never really went to Church.

I recently got myself a bible and want to get back into my fate. Anyone got any help on how to start reading the bible (or other advice)?

Read the penny catechism and pray the rosary

mods, jannies, and yourself are all faggots anyway

man is the head of the household and thus takes responsibility for it. Eve fucking up bearing Cain was thus to blame on Adam, at least partially. Adams genes were not corrupted through Eve mating with another, yet he is responsible for letting Eve fuck up, bring death into the world and having Cain born from all this.

Best thing would be to just pick one where the language you understand well, read it cover to cover and pray for understanding and guidence. If you fail to make sense out of something look up different translations, see what other people have to say on that bit and see which makes the most sense. Dont just take other peoples word for granted though.

Popes can say things that aren't considered doctrine. Popes are fallible, and not everything they say can be considered doctrine. The dogma of papal infallibility only applies in certain cases.

>What do you think about Francis aiding and abedding pedophiles and homos?

That would be terrible if it was true. There is no evidence yet that Pope Francis new about the abuses going on. But even if he did, he is still the Pope. Not even that can take away his authority. Even with all the corruption, scripture says that the Holy Spirit is with the Church, and devotion to the Church will never lead you astray.

If Yahweh cares so much about innocent 2 month old human fetuses, why did he murder innocent Egyptian children in Exodus 12?

biblehub.com/bsb/exodus/12.htm

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Start with the Gospels, Matt and Luke and good. Then read Acts and Romans and the letters to the Congregations.

Go to Genesis and Exodus skip Numbers and Leviticus, 1 Kings and 2 Kings are good, Psalms and Ecclesiastics whenever you want a break from narrative.. Leave Revelation till last.

Catholicism and Orthodoxy should unite into ONE, TRUE, BIBLICAL CHURCH but after francis is dead and his heretics aka freemasons, satanists, pedophiles and other antichrist scum removed from Catholic church.

Christians blame a "serpent" as the epitome of evil. Says clearly "Do not lie." in the Bible. In the very first book it says this serpent told Adam and Eve the truth, and God gets angry because the serpent pointed out his God's lies. So he kicks them out of Paradise.

So snakes are bad, huh?
Why Jow Forums?

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Well, God knew how this all will happen even before satan's rebellion :) But we have free choice because of Adam and Eve eating from forbidden tree.

The Pharao ordered all the first borns of the Israelites to be slaughtered, so he returned the favor, having the parents have to live with the death of their children and giving the children a free pass to heaven since they are yet innocent as children.

Also God deciding who lives and who dies does not give you the right to end lives whereever you deem fit, you are not God, thus abortion is sin, even more so considering that abortions are merely covert institutionalized childsacrifices to moloch so that you have a better life, not having to take responsibility and putting energy into a child.

Is jerking off everyday a sin?

Yes, because the entire Nicene Christian religion is based on a false doctrine. Let alone papism, which is based on traditions being reinvented over, and over, and over, and over.

Nice bait. Adam and Eve couldn't die before they ate the forbidden fruit.

Adam should not have listened to Eve's voice; he should have refused to eat of the tree. Because he disobeyed he was ejected from the garden so that he could no longer eat of the tree. He would die, returning to dust.

Genesis 3:17

17 And to Adam* he said: “Because you listened to your wife’s voice and ate from the tree concerning which I gave you this command,u ‘You must not eat from it,’ cursed is the ground on your account.v In pain you will eat its produce all the days of your life.w 18 It will grow thorns and thistles for you, and you must eat the vegetation of the field. 19 In the sweat of your face you will eat bread* until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken.x For dust you are and to dust you will return.”y

23 With that Jehovah God expelled him from the garden of Eʹden to cultivate the ground from which he had been taken.e 24 So he drove the man out, and he posted at the east of the garden of Eʹden the cherubs and the flaming blade of a sword that was turning continuously to guard the way to the tree of life.

>continuously to guard the way to the tree of life.

Le xd

Your entire post is heresy. Read the actual exegesis of the Church and stop doing schizophrenic mental gymnastics to adapt scripture to Jow Forums's degenerate behavior.

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Anderstein is anti-Calvinist, even on his view of reprobates.

Who created natural evil?

kek, have a (you) poor soul

Toothpastes are the new leafs.
Based. Catholic imperium when?
Okay thanks for giving me your opinions. I became convinced of Catholicism being the true faith by sedevacatists but I am torn by the arguments. I am praying for Jesus and Mary to lead me to the truth.

Your dad

>"you will not surely die"
>brings certain death into the world
>didnt lie
fucking burgers.

>rely on the word of men instead of letting the holy spirit guide you

>t. sex tourist in Thailand
Is this the state of papism?

Catholic Imperium? Hahaha, good one.
No, Catholic Union of White nations across the world, from South Africa to Lapland and from Alaska to Kamchatka.

He only murdered shitskins, which is ok.

There is no place where it says in the Bible that the serpent is "Satan". But even if that were the case, there was no rebellion from the snake. The snake told the truth and exposed God's lying. God had said that if Adam and Eve ate from the tree they'd die. The snake told them it was a lie. The snake was right. They didn't die. God got angry and kicked them out.

Beyond that, even if it were true that the snake were "Satan", Adam and Eve clearly lived before the time of Job. Job is the first book that mentions Satan at any length. And the first thing it says about Satan is that he is a "son of God". And it says also that God chose Satan to do his dirty work for him by torturing Job with boils from head to toe, and Satan complied. Therefore, if there was some rebellion on the part of Satan, it would have to be after the time of Job, not before and therefore not at the time the serpent tells the truth in Paradise.

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and they didn't die after either. The fruit opened there eyes just as the snake said it would.

I'm not a gaytheist nor a pagan nor a Muslim nor a jew. The gook who made Christ-Chan was though.

>was an atheist

Based and redpilled
Cringe and bluepilled

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I'm sorry, are you claiming adam and eve never died?

Then how did they not die when after reaching 777 years Adam died??
Check.

Both the redpill and the bluepill are judeo-masonic pharma. I reject them all.
I'm nopilled.

Fuck you and Fuck your god

You have to be Canadian.

Ek ben Nederlands, neger.

If you’re the same person that made the decoding the symbolism thread, I was late to the party and missed out on the invite to the discord. Any chance of posting another invite?

>rely on the word of men instead of letting the holy spirit guide you
You are doing just that, though. You are putting your faith in yourself, not God. This is how we get posts claiming that its Christian to believe that humans and dinosaurs walked the Earth together. The natural world is God's creation and by denying the science that studies it, you deny God. You are making Christians look like idiots. You are doing the work of the devil.

the fuq?
Learn the language before posting in it faggot.

satan made a bet with god and god obliged. adam and eve did die in the literal sense, just not immediately.

>muh holy book
get a life, losers

they didn't die from the fruit. You're claiming they had eternal life? Where does it say that? From the lying God?

Sorry, we're bad goyim :)

>There is no place where it says in the Bible that the serpent is "Satan". Revelation does
He seized the dragon, the ancient serpent who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years.

>The snake told the truth and exposed God's lying.
God said if they eat the fruit they will die for sure, the snake said they wont surely die. They ate it and from that moment on death entered the world making everyone sure to die. The snake lied saying they wont die. God said the truth when he told them they will die for sure.
that is really one of the worst pilpuls people can come up with.

>Satan is that he is a "son of God"
Thats how the angels are called in the OT, like the sons of god mating with the daughters of man.

>God chose Satan to do his dirty work for him by torturing Job
Nope, Satan chose so in an effort to show how easily corrupted humans are and thus do not deserve Gods attention. The whole rebellion is basically the older brother being mad at the father for paying attention the younger brother and thus tries to make the younger brother appear bad.
God merely lets him continue because we need to learn of good and evil so that in the end we know which is which and that evil only leads to death and destruction. If it werent for our sake he could have stopped it all in the beginning, but then a few aeons later the next guy would have the idea to know better whats good and start another rebellion. he stops that one too and another few aeons later the same thing happens. So now he lets us play it through it all, letting everyone see where it leads to so noone gets any bad ideas as they learned from first hand where evil leads to. >science doesnt lie
k.
Also if you were to read i argue a lot of times that science merely describes the biblical account on things but leaves out God from it all.

go suck down some infant foreskins, rabbi

>murdering innocent children was Yahweh's best course of action

Couldn't Yahweh have just temporarily blinded the Egyptians (like that time when mohel/apostle paul was blinded) so Yahweh's chosen people could make their escape?

>Buying into the kike on a stick meme

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