Reminder

The Left's support of abortion results in the politically, socially, and legally acceptable genocide of non-whites by the millions every year. More non-whites are killed every year before they ever have a chance to take their first breath than the death tolls in most of history largest genocides

If you want non-whites to be systematically eradicated while having the political Left openly defend and support the agenda then there is no better solution than abortion

Death toll (Estimates)
>Abortions worldwide (World Health Organization): 56,000,000 per year
>Abortions in US: 600,000+ per year
>Holocaust: 6,000,000 (1941 to 1945)
>Holodomor: 7,500,000 (1932 to 1933)
>Rwandan genocide: 1,071,000 (1994)
>Darfur genocide: 500,000 (2003 to present)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_statistics_in_the_United_States

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides_by_death_toll

"Rape and incest account for hardly any abortions. So why are they now a focus?"
>usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/24/rape-and-incest-account-few-abortions-so-why-all-attention/1211175001/

"On average, 56 million abortions occurred worldwide
each year in 2010–2014."
>who.int/reproductivehealth/news/440KeyAbortionFactsFinal.pdf

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When a state legalizes abortion crime rates drop by 50% 20 years later. Just something to consider.

As long as those who defend abortion are officially recognized as supporting genocide level death tolls of babies on a yearly basis then we can discuss the aftermath of the policy

please do tell, what religion convinced you this is murder?

maybe you should read the universe in a nutshell by stephen hawkings. it's a great book and starting point to get rid of all that propaganda you have been fed from birth.

>Killing a baby is not murder
Only when you convince yourself that those you are killing are not living human beings will you attempt to say your murders are justified. The problem you and your fellow baby murders will not accept is that you are not advocating for the murder of adult enemy combatants but of defenseless babies

Also, of course you attempt to pass off your baby murdering as some form of religious propaganda. You will never be wiling to accept your role in an ongoing mass genocide of babies with death tolls per year greater than most genocides in history

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So are you a christian or not?

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I am not apart of or follow any religion. I am specifically against the desert religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) even existing outside of the deserts of the Middle East from whence they came

I await your next dodge and attempt to avoid claiming support for the ongoing genocide of babies

So do you think people have a soul?

the money to pay for those abortions comes from the taxpayer's pockets though

No they have sentience you aspie. Can't just dehumanize them to justify murder.
t.secular fag

>b-but muh niggers!!
>who is going to fill the church seats? Oh my king of jews save muh church

Yes.

>Notice pattern in adult brain and baselessly assert it an inevitable feature of consciousness, for no particular reason.
>Pattern is still there in 5 months old infants, just weaker, so somehow they aren't conscious
>well actually they might be, also, we guess it's probably there in infants that are 2 months old.
What a fucking mess.

And you don't think killing a four month old baby is murder?

>dutch
>biggest degenerates in europe
>reading hawking
>God bad
kys euro s*yim

>And you don't think killing a four month old baby is murder?
Not if it's a nigger

That's for society to decide. Facts show that it's not concious yet. So it won't be able to even realize it is an individual yet.

What if it's a half-nigger? Or a quadroon? Are you going by a blood quantum definition? Have you gone to 23 and Me yet to see if you qualify as human?

Monstrous moron.

So if socirty decides that abortion is murder, then it is murder?

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Stop taking bait and let's discuss this in a rational way.

*society
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By posting garbage science indicative of absolutely nothing? I hope their next hot take is that blind people are actually not conscious.

Fine. You want to go by "consciousness", a nebulous and dubious definition. When exactly does that occur? In the womb or some time after birth? Why is killing it after it becomes conscious bad but three days before not?

>Have you gone to 23 and Me yet to see if you qualify as human?
>paying to give you DNA to the government
>half-nigger?
abort
>a quadroon?
abort
> Are you going by a blood quantum definition
Sure why not, but if the moms a nig there is no point in the DNA test.

not worth 1 white baby

Unarmed White Babies Lives Matter!

Imagine John, If niggers murder White babies all the time... Which they do and the kike Media "BLACKOUT" of nigger crime. Then what stops niggers from doing absolutely anything else criminal or uncouth?

Any policy is a good policy if it rids the world of and only Nigger Cattle!

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Yes. I would like to live in a world where every child would get the chance to live a happy life but that ain't so. If science can show us when a baby or fetus becomes self aware I'd like to put the limit to abort a child e few months before that just to make sure. But right now, most children who are put up for adoption, thrown away, etc, suffer horrid lives. I'd find quality of life more important than just saving every life. If you can not raise a child and there is no system built in to protect this child then a woman should have the option to abort.

What if a society decides that killing niggers isn't murder?

I don't want to give my DNA to the government either. But I don't have to in this debate, because I don't judge the humanity of a baby by its race. You just espoused blood quantum in a debate about murder. But how do you know you don't have any black ancestors? Are you so confident in your pure Aryan bloodline of a thousand generations that killing you wouldn't be murder?

>Are you so confident in your pure Aryan bloodline of a thousand generations
No one can trace back 1000 generations (~20000 years) and your DNA would not even turn up the odd black ancestor at even 100 generations. Since I'm white with blue-eyes I'm pretty sure I'd make the cut.

Look, I once knew a girl that was vehemently against abortion and thought it was murder. Then she got raped and pregnant. She was emotionally and financially unable to raise her child and suffered from PTSD. She decided to get an abortion.

You think this is just people callously murdering children but reality is way different. You should go to an abortion clinic once and sit in the waiting room for one day. Nobody there is just happily killing babies. The ones that do are complete psychos.

I hope you will never have to make this decision but a woman should be able to prevent a life of misery.

I get that you're thinking of the larger picture, and there is validity to that. But the problem is that the child already exists. However we arbitrarily decides to define "self awareness", the baby is already alive at every stage. You're right that people suffer horrible lives, but for the ones already living them, killing them is not a civilized or solution. It's not preventing a life of misery. It's ending a life already in process.

The thing is, you started out saying that it isn't murder, and that you could prove it with science. Then you said it's murder if society thinks it is, so which is it?
>Look, I once knew a girl that was vehemently against abortion and thought it was murder. Then she got raped and pregnant. She was emotionally and financially unable to raise her child and suffered from PTSD. She decided to get an abortion.
Iif your father is a rapist you should be killed? Don't you think it would be better to kill the rapist?

>*If your father...

So if the real problem is not taking care of the children that are born, and just abandoning tthem to their fate (look at brazillian slums), then why not prevent this suffering by allowing abortion?

Abortion has been the only thing keeping niggers in check in America and if it keeps the niggers in check and welfare lines down than I’m all for it. In times of war we must utilize every weapon at our disposal, regardless of the morality of it. A dead nig is a dead nig. Period.

>Then you said it's murder if society thinks it is, so which is it?
Is pluto a planet?

I have my personal opinion but society should decide this, not me. I personally don't believe in a soul or the sanctity of life. I also see no problem in aborting a baby that is not scentient yet.

Why not round up everyone in the favelas and kill them now?

Why not just try to make their lives better instead?

If socirty thinks the earth is flat, is it flat?

Right. So why not try to give a baby a good life rather than killing them?

Alright, you're a rational person I can talk to, so like you said, I'm gonna stop taking the bait of these nigger nazis. Thank you.

My argument is simply that the abortion kills a baby who already exists. There are moral absolutes. Self-awareness is hard to detect or define. The fetus is capable of pain at around 20 weeks, even if it isn't what you would call conscious. Babies have been born as early as 21 weeks and survived. Granted, few abortions are performed at this stage, but in a discussion of moral principles, we can discuss the extreme hypotheticals (just don't talk about a violinist burning down a fertility clinic though please), including killing the baby post-birth. It's already alive. Aborting it isn't preventing something. It's ending something that already exists, and in many cases, stopping a beating human heart.

This. It's based on the same principle of killing people to prevent their future suffering.

>when lower fluoride and lead levels in drinking water correlate with lower crime
>no, it’s the abortions that lower crime

Exactly. What do we do untill then?

Deciding the definition of murder is different from observable reality. If I push you in front of a moving train you will die, laws made by man decide if it is murder.

> Black people
saged

Okay, so 18 weeks should be a good benchmark for not allowing abortions anymore. Pain is a great argument and a sign of conciousness in my view.

What is your stance on birth control? Is it also murder?

>Deciding the definition of murder is different from observable reality.
Fair enough. Well let's concentrate on whether it's right or wrong then, that's probably a better debate. Agreed?
>Exactly. What do we do untill then?
Until when? I'm not sure what you meant by this.

What should we do until we are able to take care of every baby that is born?

Anyone that doesn't support aborting blacks, has to concede that if abortion is made illegal, repatriation of blacks has to happen, otherwise you've just pressed the starting gun for the eventual demographic displacement of white America/ the West, and the decent of Western civilisation into the 3rd world. This civilisation barely survives with 13% nigger; it couldn't survive 50%+ as South Africa shows.

Why not 17 weeks and 4 days, 18 hours?

Contraception isn't murder because it happens before conception. It does not terminate a living, genetically distinct human organism.

I don't support or hate abortion, I just want true eugenics.

And if it is just a few cells? You get where I am going here. Where is the point where you would consider something a living human being?

My sperm are genetically distinct human organisms. I kill em everyday

>What is your stance on birth control? Is it also murder?
No because it prevents conception, rather than killing. If I wank into a bit of tissue, it doesn't grow into a baby.
>What should we do until we are able to take care of every baby that is born?
We are able to. We just don't. I think your friend could have taken care of her baby if she wanted to, and I think Brazilians are perfectly capable of looking after children. Some people choose not to, that's all. Obviously there are kids who are orphans, and that's a much more difficult situation but not really related to the topic at hand. So I suppose my answer is try harder to give them better lives. Certainly don't kill them. In fact, actively try not to let harm come to them.

>Where is the point where you would consider something a living human being?
Conception

Well you got them.
Shitshkin genome flood for the plebs.
Stay White and you're good. If you can't you don't deserve your lineage to remain pure. Simple as that

Shit thread. A black woman who aborts her kid will still pop out five more. A White woman who aborts her kid won't have any more. Birth control still harms Whites more than nonwhites.

So taking a morning after pill is murder?

>We are able to.
We are obviously not able to do this. Look at africa. How are we ever going to make them take care of every baby born. It is a political, logistic and economic impossibility. Not even talking about having to force everybody on earth to adopt your stance. It's impossible.

No they are not. By genetically distinct, we mean different DNA from either mother or father. Your gametes (sperm or egg) have your own DNA and simply inert cells, where as from zygote on, this is an organism, a separate life form with its own complete totipotent cellular structure, continued growth and development, homeostasis, metabolism, and energy processing. Your sperm does none of those things, and if it will never turn into anything else on its own, whether it stays in your balls or your sock. Neither will her egg. But when these two fuse, they form a new, separate organism that only needs the proper environment and care to continue to grow and develop in to the embryo, fetus, baby, and Stephen Hawking.

Lmao more abortions = less niggers

It’s a win win situation.

what about small mutations and errors?

Mississippi reporting in. Trust me when I say you do not want our racial demography.

Oy vey, goy. Don't expose the black shoah! People only need to be concerned about G-Ds chosen dead!

You really need to stfu about this...

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What about them?

Wouldn't that make some sperms unique. I don't agree that ejaculation is murder but some sperm cells are different than the father's.

>By genetically distinct, we mean different DNA from either mother or father

>So taking a morning after pill is murder?
Debatable. You don't know if you've conceived or not at that point, but if you do it over and over again then the chances are pretty good that you have killed. I certainly can't endorse morning after pills.
>How are we ever going to make them take care of every baby born.
Frankly, africa is a lost cause. Unironically we should just quarantine the place and leave them to it. But your argument here is weak. Just because niggers are useless that doesn't have any bearing on whether normal people should be killing their kids. The fact is we are able to look after our children regardless of what niggers do with theirs.

The thing is with sperm even when you do conceive a child loads of other sperms die anyway. If you don't masturbate then you quite often end up just ejaculating in your sleep. Taking the life of a sperm is quite different to taking the life of a human. It's not the same.

They're not different from the father, they're a part of him. A cell of his body like a toenail or lung tissue. The fusion of the sperm and egg creates something completely different, with a total genetic blueprint, an organism that will continue to grow and develop as neither sperm nor egg would or could on their own.

Wrong
600k aborted nogs wow abortions are based, goy. Don't mind another 350 million born and dropshipped at your doorstep in the coming decade.

So society should jail women that take a morning after pill repeatedly for murder?

>They're not different from the father, they're a part of him.
What if they are because there was an error in the copy, a mutation or damadge to the genome after creation?

Allright I gotta eat. It's been nice chatting.

>Just because niggers are useless that doesn't have any bearing on whether normal people should be killing their kids.

Something we can agree on. Crime rate drops by 50% because abortions are predominantly done by blacks and losers.

Shh

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No because, as I already explained, there's no proof that anyone has been killed. You don't know if you conceived or not. You would end up locking up women who were infertile but didn't know it, etc.