DID THE CATHOLIC CHURCH INVENT ISLAM ???

who dis?

>dont do nofap goyim

Who are you quoting?

Islam is a catholic heresy. not sure if you would say it was "invented" by the Church

your boss

Jokes on you I'm unemployed

Yes. Catholics and muslims are allied against the orthodox

i wouldnt admit to it either so i dont blame you

Rape any Jewish shotas within ara ara range.

Yeah being a wagie is awful, I'm sorry for you.

I'm Muslim it wouldn't change much for me, our religion's biggest fundamental difference is that we don't believe Jesus is the son of God. Something I would believe either way and pretty sure many earlier Christians also agreed on, Christianity has changed in many fundamental ways since it's inception. Islam has not, could care less about it's inception the actual facts are impressive enough. Massive empire in 30 years, and the religion spread to every major continent on the Earth in a lifetime.

That's a miracle by itself and it's documented in history. The religion itself is fine, it promotes discipline, anti-racism, care for the poor, encourages structure, order and pious deeds, etc. You make out of it what you want.

true, having a house sucks hardcore

/thread.

Gibs beurettes Frenchfags.

look at the shoes and socks bottom right, then it will go away

no

>t. Kike

Probably seen too many evangelical ameritard divide and conquer conspiracy vids ("muh Jesuits"). Islam was a project mounted by dissident messianic Jews - the Nazarenes/Ebionites - who wanted to rebuild the Temple with the help of their Ishmaelite cousins, while those who became Christians embraced the New Alliance. Eventually Jerusalem was conquered, and when the foreseen prophecies failed to materialize, the Ishmaelites turned on their Nazarene handlers. Islam was a gradual formulation based on these early events. For a long time the Quran was written on camel bones, and Islam was vaguely seen by its proponents and warriors as a newer and better revelation - the Berbers initially conquering Spain had no Quran with them. Mecca and the initial history of the prophet are inventions.

Islam & Catholicism are both based & will lead you to heaven. I don't see tue issue. Protestants & orthodox slav kikes need to die. Satanist scum

Got some sources? I get assaulted by pakis constantly, fuckers trying to convert me to their camel fucking circlejerk. Sticking it in their face that their religion is a larp and deception would be great.

>Picname is whitejihad
>Girl in pic is obviously black
What did he mean by this?

Any one got the sauce on pic related?

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Jesuit turned Protestant is the source of the story. If he was a Jesuit, then j believe him, if he wasnt a n ordained Jesuit then I dont believe it.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Rivera_(activist)

>Islam has not
???
If you look at protestantism as damnable evidence of radical theological development on the part of Christians, just how is it that you explain the existence of so many different sects in islam? There is such a thing as orthodoxy in Christianity and unlike your religion that came about from literally nowhere, our faith is confirmed through the intertextual crossovers, the typology and the thousands of years of prophecy being confirmed and/or revealed in the NT and the OT.

Mo was married to an ex Catholic nun. How Mo "built his religion" was very similar to the way L. Ron Hubbard cobbled together $cientolotgy. A bit of this and a bit of that.

Mo also had a very sever case of TBI epilepsy. His fits are perfectly described including foaming at the mouth.

Think about that for a minute. If they did this with Islam...that is why muzzy protect RozBal tomb so heavily (although now that India has retaken Kashmir who knows what can happen.) Muzzy do NOT want the Jesus story to be proven false because that makes a cuck out of MO too.

Fun stuff if you have half a brain and a curious mind.

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>and the religion spread to every major continent on the Earth in a lifetime.
When Mo was unable to convince folks to follow his religion in a peaceful reasonable way, he decided that forcing them would work out better for him and get him better prizes. SRSLY religion days.

People beLIEve what they need to. Not what is true.

Check out David Wood

All religion is a LARP bro. Stay strong. Sidestep them lest they decide to force you to convert. BUT in case of emergency aka you're going to be killed if you're not a muz...learn "there is no god but god and Allah is his name in arabic. Saying to the dude about to kill you just might save your life.

yeah it's an offshoot of judaism like christianity is

There is a reason why muzzies resist archaeologal and historical investigations so much. And there is a reason why Christianity not only welcomes the scrutiny, it warmly embraces it.

I'd rather die than submit to those savages. But go ahead you disgusting coward, submit to your superiors.

Bump.

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There are little sources in English on the subject of the Judeo-Nazarene theory, though there is an entry for it on Wikipedia. Most material is in French.

This is the summary book in French:
legrandsecretdelislam.com/
Otherwise you'll find some material here:
rootsofislamtruehistory.com/
And by looking up "Judeo-Nazarene" on jewgle.

Funnily enough, I learned from these guys that what awaits suicide bombers in paradise is not 72 virgins but 72 bunches of grapes, the mistranslation as often in Islamic history comes from the diacritics in Arabic writing going awry as generations pass, changing the meaning of whole sentences.

Cheers

No offence, but David Wood is a bit of a joke. He should check out CIRA International.
youtube.com/channel/UC5zGnPFoN5LjAsxU8ESiBMw/videos

Also, Christian Prince does a great job completely and utterly destroying Islam, but his work online is all over the place and not very easy to follow. It's still fun to follow for the buttblasted muzzies though.

Ah brah, just mumbling some stupid ass shit I don't mean to keep a rifle out of my face...who's smarter the idiot that believes me? or me for tricking him into saving the life of a Kafir?

>And there is a reason why Christianity not only welcomes the scrutiny, it warmly embraces it.
OH trust me son, xianity is not going to welcome any study into the tomb at RozBal. If it even LOOKS like it will be scientifically and properly studied I'd expect the Vatican to start stiring up the muzzy to blow it up.

Xianity has WAY more to lose than Islam if that tomb is ever, EVER studied.

>but 72 bunches of grapes,
Can confirm. Blew up 700 tourists and myself with a firecracker. Enter the pearly gates second later...and Peter hands me a bunch of grapes and says "well done" my son.

I found the book translated in English in this thread, unfortunately punctuated by interventions from Muslim posters:
free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607768.0
And apparently a full translation of the book, which is a great summary of various francophone researchers, is being released online in English next month here:
thegreatsecretofislam.com/

Definitely a must-read.

source of gif please

holy fucking god

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No.

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Unarmed White Babies Lives Matter!

Imagine John, If niggers murder White babies all the time... Which they do and the kike Media "BLACKOUT" of nigger crime. Then what stops niggers from doing absolutely anything else criminal or uncouth?

IT IS THE RELIGION OF Nigger Cattle!

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But there is no tomb of Jesus Christ, so what does Christianity have to lose? And the Vatican was always in the forefront of sponsoring controversial investigations like the Dead Sea Scrolls meme. Can you please elaborate?

No, Islam is a heresy and it comed from pagan religions is the arab world, the only thing in common with catholics is that they say to use the Bible as a source of faith

>reading comprehension

No. Muhammad's family were pagans.

>there is no tomb of Jesus Christ
There are several.

Mostly because the biblical story of Jesus is a mockup.

There was so much fuckery surrounding the dead sea scrolls that if you're curious you should look into it.

What does Xianity have to lose re the tomb at RozBal? Everything.

The Catholic cult will do and has always done whatever it can to keep the truth underwraps.

You think, for instance, The Davinci Code met any REAL resistance from the cult? no...they breathed a sigh of relief.

Rozbal is the tomb of Issa who was born in Kashmir (and has a twin brother Thomas who was a famous stone mason). Issa went to study with the Hindu, he then went to study with the Buddhists. (Anyone reading the Secret Gospel of Thomas will immediately see the influence of both religions.) At some point Issa was arrested, he was crucified. But his team put a sleepy solution on a sponge and he "died". He was taken down and hidden, and eventually returned to Kashmir where he married and had a family. He has descendants in the area still today. (Another very very dicy problem...and even today the people in Kashmir are very secretive because if they're not they're going to be murdered.)

Anyway...the tomb at RozBal is the tomb if Issa. It is a singular tomb with a inprint of crucified feet at the base. NO ONE is allowed to study the tomb, enter it, nothing. It went unoticed and unremarked out outside Kashmir until a scholar wrote a book about it..and correlated the story of Issa and his twin Thomas via contemporary court records and other records.

Then it got locked down and the muzzy went militant.

Xians are terrified of this as well. They do not want to know that biblical "jesus" was a mock up and a combination of three people..Issa, Applonius of Tyre, and Judas Kristos. All three very real people but cobbled together into one "mighty immortal son of god".

We've been controlled via magical thinking and religion for centuries. NOT just Islam...all of it.

There are scholastic books about Issa, But don't read them.

I was expecting some kind of bullshit, but I honestly wasn't expecting the full 1000 mg schizopill.

If you died today do you know for sure you're going to Heaven?

Here's how you can know for certain: youtu.be/WDEBz25lGdY

1 John 5:13
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
>that ye may know that ye have eternal life

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I forgot to add that after he studied with the Buddhists he went to Palestine with his brother. He shouldn't have done that.

The priest Bernard Saunier found something hidden in Rennes Chateu when he renovated the ancient chapel there. Knights Templar secreted some of the Solomon's temple booty in the area. What he found is speculative...lots and lots of speculation. But the clues to what he found are seen in his "stations of the cross" artwork. He also lost his faith. In the 7th station of the cross the truth is evident. It shows people carrying a body in bright moonlight..there was no wound in the side. Jews will never ever touch a dead body after dark.

Anyway, the catholic cult doesn't mind the Jesus married Mary Magdalen story...kek..But the Magdalen is a curious thing in and of herself. A redhead..she was a genetic "throwback" to the ancestors..she was married to John the Baptist but apparently he was a real asshole and abusive...Salome and she were BFF's and Salome arranged for JTB to be "eliminated". Pregnant, MM fled to the south of France where she lived as a hermit and is buried there in a cave...and is venerated by the Cathars to this day. MM was a very very genetically special person but she was NOT married to ISSA...and most certainly not the three-in-one Jesus (Applylonius, Judas, and Issa).

I love how you insist on calling him Issa.
It's very peculiar.

boomer faggot

I'm not sure just how much of that barely coherent bullshit you actually believe. You talk about the Gospel of Thomas like it's some kind of valid historical resource when it is not and contradict what we know about Christ; it's also a much more recent document. And you're saying stuff that just doesn't make any sense like the Catholic Church being okay with Christ marrying Mary Magdalen. This is too much schizoposting for me.

Bah, ISSA was his name.
>actually believe.
KNOW...not beLIEve. Two different things. Unlike you I've put in years and years of study. Once you start digging the truth is evident. But people beLIEve what they need to.

And trust me, the story of MM and Jesus being married in the Davinci Code...the cult did NOT attack that movie with any great force. They breathed a sigh of relief.

The truth is out there. One only need look. And you have grossely mischaracterized the Secret Gospel of Thomas and why it was NOT permitted in the canon. Had you any knowledge at all of how the canon was formed and who decided what was and was not included, perhaps you'd be a bit more skeptical about what WAS permitted.

Paul was a ROMAN Mithraic priest sent in as a spy and to "pervert" this new religion into a direction more acceptable to the Romans. He did a fine job. Until that time Gnostic xianity was more popular.

yes, they did create it-specifically Pope Boniface sp? Jews started hanging round Jerusalem...go figure
Pope want, need an enemy to have a reason for an army under his control...POOF...islam is born
Now go get me Jerusalem....now gibs me dat
cmon...gibs....DAMMIT...they kept it
Kinda just like today, we create terrorist, to fight terrorist...to fight terrorist

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>ISSA was his name.
Nope. Give me your source, or I can prove it anyways.
I'll wait for your source though since it should be ready and easy for you.

Well... jews created christianity to undermine the Romans, so...
Could be, user, who knows?

user, you talk like you have some kind of ancient knowledge but you're just painfully uncritical or, worse, you actually suffer from some kind of psychopathology. You've just spouted a bizarre mishmash of various conspiracy theories, most of which ate totally unrelated, and there is barely any coherency at all. Now you're spouting off some Caesar's Messiah BS and going off on deranged speculations about Pauline theology.

Also, your beLIEf in the Gospel of Thomas is so very superficial...
youtube.com/watch?v=lh3cTTV9s-c

Gonna make this simple for you fucks. The same people / families who created Christianity to hijack the Jewish religion relaxed it worked well by telling the Jews to turn the other cheek love thy neighbor and drop the swords. They realized the majority of Jews didn’t fall for it so they tried again this time with the sword. It is true both are fabricated to stop the Jews.

FUCKINA just duckduck ISSA in India...I'm not going to hold your hand. Holy shit. get curious, start reading. Read about the Dead Sea scroll scholars. Read about the SOG, read about the tomb at Rozbal, the books about Issa are in English now.

You just keep on believing what you need to. LOL conspiracy theory. Ironic.

>If this is true what the fuck would the real world implications be? What would Muslims do if they found out their religion was a literal fucking LARP created by the Vatican? 1,400 years built on a fucking lie? Would the Muslim world go into chaos and anarchy ensue?
>Anyone here know or heard about this theory before lads?

Talmudic Judaism was also created by Rome. Sufism, hasidism and jesuitism are essentially the cockpits within which the three abrahamic faiths are steered and controlled. Muslims at large are way too dumb to 'realise' anything or do anything if they did. Same for jews desu although in their case it's more due to being brain damaged and autistic.

BTW you use name of Issa to signify Christ? Or is this someone else named Issa?

This sounds like divide and conquer. It doesn't even make sense. Muslims deny the divinity of Christ, Catholics proclaim it. One of them is right, so stop trying to fuck with people.

Only Ahmadis believe Roza Bal is the tomb of Jesus Christ.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roza_Bal
> Locals believe a sage is buried here, Yuzasaf or Yuz Asaf (or Youza Asouph), alongside another Muslim holy man, Mir Sayyid Naseeruddin.

>The shrine was relatively unknown until the founder of the Ahmadiyya movement, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, claimed in 1899 that it is actually the tomb of Jesus

>There is no record of the shrine during Kashmir's Buddhist period, nor during the Kashmir Sultanate (1346–1586)

>The shrine is first mentioned in the Waqi'at-i-Kashmir (Story of Kashmir, published 1747), also known as the Tarikh Azami (History by Azam)[13] by the Khwaja Muhammad Azam Didamari, a local Srinagar Sufi writer. Muhammed Azam states that the tomb is of a foreign prophet and prince, Yuzasuf, or in modern local Kashimiri transcription Youza Asouph. The name may derive from the Urdu "Yuzasaf" in the legend of Balauhar and Yuzasaf, Yuzasaf being a name for Gautama Buddha

>Yuzasaf, Arabic Yūdhasaf or Būdhasaf, is derived from the Sanskrit Bodhisattva. The Sanskrit word was changed to Bodisav in Persian texts in the 6th or 7th century, then to Budhasaf or Yudasaf in an 8th-century Arabic document (from Arabic initial "b" ﺑ to "y" ﻳ by duplication of a dot in handwriting).

This faggot pretending all religions aren't LARPs.. kys

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"A sleepy solution" you really think that being crucified and then heavily sedated wouldn't just kill you?

Issa is Yeshua in Arabic

(((god)))

I know, thats why I'm telling you that isn't his name.
Arabic was invented after Jesus was born.
Jesus was born to Joseph of Arimathea, and spoke in Aramaic.
His name was pronounced ' Yéshú '

Exhibit A

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Yeah, but Jesus lived and died long before the Arabs broke containment, and Arab Christians have always called him Yasu, not Issa.

So? Names get adapted according to language, Mary is called Maria in Spanish.

I never said his name was Jesus.
Jesus is not a transliteration of Yéshú.
Jesus is more of a transscribing without any inclusion of dialect and accent of the local pronounciation from Aramaic.

Anyways the Letter 'J' isn't exclusively pronounced as "G". It can be pronounced as "H" or "Y" or "I" or "E" or "U"

Total collapse of industrial civilization.

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Just fap you autist. It's retarded to hold in your sperm . If I dont fap then I get boners at random times just walking in public. Not appropriate

Okay... well if your name is birthed in a language then your name belongs to the category of pronunciation of the native tongue.
Thats why transliteration and enunciation is so important in translating words, because you are required to preserve the accent of the local tongue to keep it's authenticity.

You also risk prostate cancer if you are completely abstinent.

Dayum

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LOL Islam was invented by kikes talking with Muhammad until he got tired of them, it takes a desert bandit to recognise another, it’s on the Quran.

I think that's an actual negress
Look at the hands
Gross

Never mind the fact that we have the Shroud of Turin to show just how extensive was the damage done to His body. It's just nonsensical schizo/gnostic/atheistic bullshit to disprove His Lordship, and quite pathetic at that.

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Arabs have a lot of negroid admixture from the ottoman slave trade.

the fuck is that patch.

sauce...
PLEASE

Master Clit-less Sargent

No,
but kek if true.

Mohammed's father worshiped one of the 360 idols in the Kaaba. Mohammed destroyed all the idols, copy pasted Arab pagan, Jewish and Christian stories onto the god his father had worshiped and said "we monotheist nao" (except of course for the Satanic verses, when he asked people to give prayers to al-Lat, Manat, and al-Luzza, the 3 goddess daughters of Allah, and later said "whoops, Satan told me to do that and I couldn't tell the difference between Satan and Gabriel"). The stories of Christianity he copied were mostly from heretics and apocrypha, like baby Jesus talking.

Sgt Major

Even if that was true, no one would believe it. What would the proof be?