Wow, another movie about an angry white male that hates society. How fresh

Wow, another movie about an angry white male that hates society. How fresh.

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Dilate.

They don't want you to be seen as human, even if the only character they give you is a villain from a comic book

I will see any mainstream movie that doesn't follow the woke handbook.

It was sarcasm m8

>inb4 the meme joker pictures show.

This is me. Literally me. No other character can come close to relating to me like this. There is no way you can convince me this is not me. This character could not possibly be anymore me. It’s me, and nobody can convince me otherwise. If anyone approached me on the topic of this not possibly being me, then I immediately shut them down with overwhelming evidence that this character is me. This character is me, it is indisputable. Why anyone would try to argue that this character is not me is beyond me. If you held two pictures of me and this character side by side, you’d see no difference. I can safely look at this character every day and say “Yup, that’s me”. I can practically see this character every time I look at myself in the mirror. I go outside and people stop me to comment how similar I look and act to this character. I chuckle softly as I’m assured everyday this character is me in every way. I can smile each time I get out of bed every morning knowing that I’ve found my identity with this character and I know my place in this world. It’s really quite funny how similar this character is to me, it’s almost like we’re identical twins. When I first saw this character, I had an existential crisis. What if this character was the real me and I was the fictional being. What if this character actual became aware of my existence? Did this character have the ability to become self aware itself?

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Wow I wonder why movies about being alienated and maligned appeal to white men so much. Probably just them.

I don't even get what the article is trying to say? Is it that they're tired of seeing white men as the villain? So, now white men being portrayed as villains is problematic in some way, some sort of weird catering to white men and their villainy? Why do you make white men the villain then, you demented fags?

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> Joaquin Phoenix
> White

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That was what I was going to post. Damn. Well I hope whoever wrote that article sees the error of their ways. Failing that I hope they drink bleach, I think CVS has it 2 for 1 right now so don't wait too long.

>joker is masculine

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They hate white people and want us eradicated, numbnuts. NOTHING you do or say will ever appease them. They just want you gone and they will attack you in any way you can, simple as that

I guarantee this will be woke. Just wait. There's no place for anything else in Hollywood.

That's a point too. Haven't seen this new shit, but wasn't the joker always a bit faggy?

is this movie based or not? they wont make up their mind. Looks based so far

we need to subvert this movie and start a campaign since we can link it to clownworld meme, someone get on it stat.

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GAMERS RISE UP

The Joker is what happens when there are no external forces to reign in that destructive energy, you know, things like stable economies, a good job or good prospects, a cozy nuclear family to put effort into and to act as a support system, a culture to fall back on, basically everything that's currently being purposefully eroded away.

Not an argument.

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But it just seems so delusional. The white guy has to be the bad guy because of privilege bullshit, but it's problematic that the bad guy is white because that caters to white villainy or something. So who's going to be the fucking villain then? Make up your mind, retards.

No movie is based anymore.

Well then why don't we simply beat their faces in with crowbars?

>If you only know the power of the dark side......

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>2019: heterosexual males losing their sanity are toxic assholes
wew, honk womp

The new trailer has him sucking face with a nigger. I already lost all interest in seeing it.

I thought the joker is what happens when some edgy faggot overdoses on gamers rise up memes and spergs out in mommys make up box?

Edge lords unite, they don't know how syco we are

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I guarantee it will be woke leftist garbage. It will align with anarcho-communist propaganda more than anything. This is Hollywood we're talking about. Don't fall for it.

>expecting the left to make sense

Do you know how many genders there are currently?

They're tired of them being seen as SYMPATHETIC villains, they don't like the idea that white men have problems too, since it goes against many people's entire identity and the current liberal belief system.

No that's what happens to people who WANT to be the Joker or to identify with him. His actual archetype is just that of a chaotic domestic terrorist.

Yeah its just like the original batmans, and they're meant to mk ultra young men to shoot up soft targets. Watch, a whole bunch of (((mass shootings))) will happen now and they'll all be labeled "white nationalist"
*honk honk*
I'm convinced we live in some type of matrix simulation now.

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No I was talking about the joker himself.

What white SJWs and jews don't seem to understand is if they succeed in causing white civilization to fall apart they're the ones who are going to die first. Right wingers will all go innawoods with plenty of food and guns. At least half of us are preppers.

The funny thing is, the character in the movie has legitimate mental health issues and the help he was getting was the most basic barebones shit imaginable. So, by saying that people shouldn't care about people like Arthur Fleck because they're 'white male outcasts', they are creating the exact scenario where things like that happen.
They want to demonise white men so badly that they end up creating their own monsters.

I think you're confusing the chicken for the egg.

it's not that he's a villain, it's that he seems somewhat sympathetic in the trailers. Every white person in movies has to be a mustache-twirling Nazi with no redeeming values or sensical motivations

Nah, I can't say I've ever seen any jokers either in real life or in history, except maybe at some pride parade or something. Not very archetypal for an archetype if that's what he's supposed to be.

Doesn't merit one.

That didn't take long. Make it a rule in your lives Jow Forums NEVER SUPPORT HOLLYWOOD MOVIES. You give them billions just so they can tell you how privileged you are and how much they hate you while they go fuck kids and worship Satan.

This, they're fine with displaying white men as mindless villians, who are just evil for the sake of it, but the instant you give them a reason to have become like that that is relatable in any way at all, they get upset because it doesn't conform to their 'white men are literally the devil' mindset.

well? what do you expect when we live in a society?

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The Joker would shitpost on Jow Forums.
He'd be hard to identify because he'd make actual arguments.

The SJWs are the useful idiots. Jews have Israel to flee to.

It might be "woke" in the same way Elysium was, a tired narrative that gets completely ignored for what the audience sees.

Watch Lonesome Dove.

>Joker is 'catnip' for blah blah blah
WTF?! Wouldn't 'catnip' be a better metaphor for a cat woman movie? Could these retards not think up a single clown, jester, or card related quip to go along with their story? Keep your themes in order journalists, this shit looks like amateur hour at high school.

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Checked, most of us are looking forward to it.

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You aren't supposed to want to "be" the joker he isn't a rolemodel. If anything this movie shows more promise for shining a light on our ridiculous clown world tjan any in recent memory. He may kiss a nigger but the same trailer shows a fat negress bitch at him for entertaining her kid.

Anti-authoritarians identify with the villain. That's why every other edgelord 14 year old boy out there is posting joker memes. Do you think the psychokikes who make these movies don't understand this basic mental mechanism?

He's not a role model but he's the only alternative that's free. The joke is no matter how sick the Joker is society is sicker.

Also darkness and brooding misanthropy not colors and optimistic nihilism. Praise genocide crusade!

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I would think cult leaders, serial killers and domestic terrorist would be within the same umbrella. The difference would be in the motivations primarily, most people to enact really nasty shit usually have a reason beyond "honk honk I'm a nihilist". Maybe the Columbine kids would be the best example, or that orange haired cunt who shot up that theater.

Not at all. That's the calculating psychopath archetype. Which is a thing. This "chaotic domestic terrorist" archetype you postulate doesn't really exist. Maybe it will be created by propaganda movies by this, but it's certainly not been a thing. Do you have any examples? No, I think I'm correct in that it's you who have it the wrong way around. The archetype he represents IS actually the young edgelord who spergs out with gamers rise up. It's a drive towards anti-authoritarianism that's pretty normal in adolescent boys that manifests itself as nihilistic edgelordism.

The point being that his race mixing is shown as another aspect of his fucked life that turned him towards becoming the joker. Nobody is identifying and desiring to be a mental invalid with mommy issues that get his shit kicked in every day they identify with his anti-authority stand point which is hardly in favor of the "psychokikes"
The society shown is one where he gets assaulted by "urban youths" for no reason, bitched at by a black woman for the heinous crime of entertaining her kid, has a psychiatrist that does nothing for him except run through the numbers and an elite hollywood jew (DeNiro being a little too on the nose) making a mockery of him just to grind his face in it while down. Hardly a life anyone who views this movie will see as positive.

>Guys you are all so dumb and gullible that by simply watching a movie you will be brainwashed into wanting to chop your dicks and redistribute the wealth amongst minorities

Don't mind me, just testing.

>This "chaotic domestic terrorist" archetype you postulate doesn't really exist.
Yes it does, but only briefly.

Well, in the trailers I get the feeling he has zero identity, or anything to rely on to borrow an identity, except satirization and harm.

>Nobody is identifying and desiring to be a mental invalid with mommy issues that get his shit kicked in every day
Of course they do identify with this. Half the young boys today are raised by single moms and all of them are indoctrinated with being a pussy in school. Almost every young boy today is a mental invalid with mommy issues.

damn this movie triggers libtards so much, gonna pirate and watch it when it comes out

If they're not being beat up by bullies, then they're getting mentally abused by the media.

This movie is not at all going to be what Jow Forums wants it to be. I want Clownworld: The Movie too, bros. But it isn't going to happen like that.

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The point is that the joker is an obvious self-insert for any adolescent boy today. What young man wouldn't want to overcome their pussification and sperg out in a glory of over the top edgelordism? You have to look at the auxiliary things, what else are they tacking onto this propaganda form? Someone already mentions that he's a fag, which makes sense. I'm sure there's more.

"bullies"
You mean non-whites

The character is a lot older than videogames though. I think when talking about archetypes none of them actually exist in a fully fleshed out form, they're just sort of these platonic versions of certain traits. I think the chaotic domestic terrorist thing does exist, but like another guy said they don't last, they burn out real quick. Ted Kazcynski comes to mind, again he's not a perfect example but those don't exist really.

His gf is a fucking baboon
Dropped

None of them see it as a "good" thing. How in the ever living fuck does it do the psychokikes any favors to release propaganda where a character that today's youth can easily identify with gets fed up with the clown world and starts killing the shits that made his life that way and then portray them as blacks, hollywood elites and shrinks doing the bare minimum?

They just keep pushing, don't they? Grinding the average disenfranchised male into the dirt to the point where he is idolizing and finding catharsis through the character of a depraved sociopath enacting revenge on the world. And even when they see the state men are in, they just keep grinding. It's funny.

Point.

Because they now have an excuse to take more. They're insulated from the consequences, yet can obtain the profit.

Pretty damn accurate. What you're describing is gay as shit but it's real, I do see that a lot.

That's because they know almost every single one of them aren't actually going to start killing shit. The nuances is the other shit they feed you with your self-insert character. Things that are more accessible to your daily life. The subconscious adopts such patterns from self-inserts.

Uncle Ted is also the calculating psychopath archetype. He's not chaotic, he's a structured man with a manifesto and a purpose. Logical but unemotional. It's something else entirely.

>Maybe the Columbine kids would be the best example
>usually have a reason beyond "honk honk I'm a nihilist"
Indeed. The OG Columbine mafia knew what was what. People want to think that the state of the world is just a sad joke that they can passively laugh at but the truth is that sooner or later reality is going to come knocking at your front door and let itself in. Like it or not we are all active participants in this shit show. In the case of columbine they basically saw what the future held for them and wanted no part of it. If you read their writings you will immediately get a sense of something beyond rage, of a hatred not only for life but for existence itself. The final statement of the Columbine killers was not directed at anything or anyone specific, it was a statement that not only is life not worth living, but existence itself is not worth anything.

Hmm I wonder what kind of ((((person)))) directed this

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But his actions were designed to create chaos, which for me is close enough, but I understand if it's not for you. I think the Joker as he's portrayed is too fantastical to really manifest itself in life, you can't really pull of anything of substance if you truly don't make plans. I get where you're coming from though, you may be right. You're damn sure right about That.

I hear his brother ODs and then he spends the rest of his life over compensating to get out of his shadow.

>he goy check this out, blacks and hollywood elites ruined this guy's life and he broke free by turning his hatred towards them into action doesn't that make you want to race mix and pay attention to the hollywood elites we use as our propaganda arm?
Doubt it, you are reading far to much into the nefarious dark corners of the latest capeshit cash cow out of hollywood.
They don't have to kill shit to draw parallels between the screen and real life. Some guy watches blacks and hollywood elites ruin some dumb asshole's life until he goes crazy they don't have to paint their face and pick up a gun to desire a change if they can relate to the joker. The hidden propaganda bit is a joke, subliminal messaging doesn't work unless you already had a desire.

So its basically his actual story?

See, now we're getting somewhere. So far we have
>being a homo
>dating a nigger
These are things that are accessible to the average young man. Going on a chaos rampage is not. So when you have millions of young men sitting at home, living through this character that ameliorates the (intentionally created) flaws in their lives, a twisted sort of role model, ok, maybe you'll get one or two who are actually inspired to go on some sort of postal spergout. That doesn't really matter, because young men sperging out helps the system anyways. But how many comparatively do you think subconsciously is inspired towards these softer, more accessible things?

May all edgelords die by choking on their own shit

Maximum tier happening Chimpouts to ensue

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>giving money to Jewllywood
Good goy.

>that doesn't follow the woke handbook
>Hollywood

user...

I am going to watch this movie, at home. Looks based.

HONK HONK

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Too dangerous to see it in theaters desu

Chances are anyone who watches this movie and either starts sucking dick or dating a black chick had thoughts prior to the two hours of severe brainwashing capeshit. Whats more who gives a shit about the spergs who go on shootings they don't matter either way they won't accomplish their goals nor will the elite take their means of achieving these goals away, gun control is a red herring to steal focus. What does matter is the average guy who knows the joker isn't a rolemodel, knows he is a fucked up product of the society that surrounds him and sees an origin movie where he isn't just criminally insane from the get go but by all metrics a slightly abnormal guy driven nuts. That his triggers happen to he black people acting like niggers and hollywood elites having nothing but contempt for the little man is not something a masterful propagandist would release when the blacks are there because of him and the hollywood elites are his mouthpieces.