Why do “incels” and MGTOW constantly bitch about 80/20 hypergamy but never seem to actually try and improve their...

Why do “incels” and MGTOW constantly bitch about 80/20 hypergamy but never seem to actually try and improve their lives? They bitch about women not fucking them but they do nothing to increase their value as a man. Stop, smoking weed, stop jerking off all the time, stop watching porn, eat better, and exercise.

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no u

They don’t want to admit their unhealthy habits are bad. Ask any porn addict about porn and they vehemently defend their addiction.

Is that the brother of our Lord Boi Sminem though?

If I did these things will women stop fornication?

Are you an esl?

Thanks, Dad.

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Do you know what a dictionary is?

It doesn't really matter how good or bad the men are, women pick those at the top of the hierarchy no matter what.
The overall distribution wouldn't change much because it's what is natural.
The problem at large cannot be fixed by telling men to try to outcompete each others even more.

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The correct word to use is “fornicating”.

This. As much as one individual can 'man up', you can't unfuck the mind of the sick masses that make up our crumbling society that has turned it's back on all rational principles that once made them great. Besides, these 'incels' (fake term used by the media to demonize) don't want a meaningless fuck, they want an intimacy that is increasingly disappearing from world in the name of luciferian empowerment.

Ngl Asuka is pretty cute here, the others look autistic.

Is there anything else to this existence other than dumb whores who take your money and leave you for someone else?

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Stuck up whore hangs out with jamal and gets pimped out by her handlers. Go buy your cheap ass chinese products and complain to someone who cares.

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You've got some low standards, and all three of them are autistic, they're dressed up as anime characters.

incels should just die. the world should be full Chads

The Internet and vidyas.
>and all three of them are autistic, they're dressed up as anime characters
You say that like it's a bad thing.

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Plenty of virgins girls out there

This is just an excuse for men that can't land chicks. There are plenty of cool and based girls, but as any other girl, they will not go for beta cucks

Or pedophilia.

if the "lower tier" males die off than what would happen is the chad hierarchy would break up into a wider range and the lesser chads would be the new losers.

.. and if you don't address your own cuckery and still find a girl, you will always be a damaged girls second chance, opening up for her being unfaithful with any higher value male she can throw her pussy at...

>distribution
Bingo. If we all had six packs the demand would be eight packs.

Because women aren't worth it any more. It's not even completely women's fault any either. We live in a culture where women are encouraged to be sluts and have all the means to be one (tinder, snapchat, etc.) while men are told they are shit, implicitly (What male heroes are left? What male role models can young boys look up to? The only thing being pushed these days is niggers and other minorities, "strong" women and whatnot).

A man can improve himself, but then what? He's now a 10/10 and thots are lining up for him- but don't you see the problem? He can now bang thots. Wow! He can now bang women that have already fucked up their pleasure center, gotten holes in their brain from anticonception pills, have had their life's philosophy defined by nigger music and reality TV, and will file a rape allegation at the drop of a hat whenever she feels like it?
Why would you suffer through the experience of getting fit and giving up on the hedonistic pleasure that makes life tolerable in the swamp of nihilism we live in, just so he can gain the attention of people he either already, but most certainly now, hates?
There is no reason.

There is no reason- that is, there is no reason to improve for someone else. If you improve, you do it for yourself. You do it because you love yourself and you want the best for yourself. It's a shame, then, that we live in a society that demonises (white) men at every available location.

Is the veil lifted now, even slightly? Do you comprehend? We live in a world that hates us more or less, and even success leads to failure. Bigger failure, even, because the higher you climb, the further you'll fall. It may sound dramatic, or something that gets posted on facebook by a fedora wearing nerd, but it's the truth.

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This, Australia is a prime example. A country full of literal gigachads all trying to one up another competing for absolutely shit tier women.

Yeah and they are already married. But great boomer-tier advice, Jens. Not that we haven't heard that shit from our parents 50 times already.

it's easier to bitch with your fake friends on the male sewing circle that is Jow Forums

>Yeah and they are already married.
wrong

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>Spend a fuck ton of time and effort forming yourself around all the qualities females desire and still get fucked over
>Do what you enjoy in life and not conform to what some valueless whore wants you to be
Yeah I wonder. Nobody applies this standard to women is why people complain. A guy can maintain great leadership qualities, great work ethic, valuable skills and a decent job. It means fucking nothing in the eyes of a woman. Yet a woman has never had to meet any qualities to receive a free ride including attention and money. They infest every single area of life that begins to produce value and ignore all others. They are parasites at every stage of life. If you seek women and their validation, you deny your own masculinity and thus deny respect from your fellow man. Men who think getting laid often makes them manly are oozing weakness and it is disgusting.

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you think i am mgtow because i didnt try?

Great refutation. Point is, the good girls are usually taken early. The ones left over are left over for a reason. Either single moms or nutcases.

I have done many self improvement angles. Women just don't like me, and yes I hate them for it.
At least I'm in good shape now, so I can give them angry looks in public and they are submissive afterwards.

Middle kid could rival a sugar glider with those ears.

>the good girls are usually taken early.
But they are not
Most men are not looking for good girls
They are looking to get laid
>The ones left over are left over for a reason.
They are left over because they dont put out

Thanks for reminding me cosplay was a mistake OP

Also that's James May moonlight as Rei Ayanami.

Yeah, 13 year olds. But I'm not allowed to touch them, because I'm not an Arab/Somali immigrant.

IS it possible to find a good girlfriend In college or are they all used up whores by then

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These guys make the mistake in thinking dating is a meritocracy. It isn't. "Self-improvement" is just people trying to convince themselves that since they got something, they must have worked for it. But that's not always the case.

What makes you think they don't? A large portion of mgtow are like this. They tried, got laid, and decided they were happier being alone and playing video games.

College is probably your last chance. After that, better be ready to either raise another man's kids or a liberal nutcase who will never want children and won't make a good mother anyway.

I find it bizarre how people obsess over this idea that incels just need to improve themselves. "Improve yourself!" I just imagine dumb women saying that i the snarkiest most condescending tone. Most men who are going through this just got dealt a shit hand, and as a result don't make the cut for any of the women they are interested in.

>got laid,
Then why are they complaining about women?

>bottom 80 improves their social status
>top 20 does so in turn
>nothing changes because OP is a mutt and doesn't understand distributions.

People don't understand what it's like to be a man in this position. There is a near-universal lack of understanding.
I think it's the hatred of men the west embraces, combined with the evil inclination to stomp on people who are already in the gutter.
This whole situation is just a recipe for disaster, but the thing is, is that some of these guys won't take it lying down. They get pissed and start hurting/killing people.
So now people see that and pretend to be understanding, but they always show their true colors and start blaming and insulting guys.

Because the lay wasn't worth the effort.

But they are just as degenerate as the women they are complaining about

You're retarded. Only you can affect your own 6-pack. No one else gets a 6-pack if you get one.

this is like saying to african americans yo guy stop committing crime and raping people, youre reducing complex and systemic issues to the belief a temporary measure will have a lasting effect, i bet you think youre smart

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Most guys would be happy with a gf who was their equal, but average girls want to try their hand at being chad's cock sleave x20 before hitting the wall and giving an average guy a chance.

>implying most incels are actually involuntarily celibate
Most self proclaimed incels have social anxiety disorders and don't know it. They aren't being rejected by anyone, they just are too afraid to ask. Incel culture is a psyop to take the focus away from mental health and make men women-hating autists.

>Most guys would be happy with a gf who was their equal,
Until they are married they should both be virgins

I've never heard of an incel pothead.

Men should hate women, we have every reason to if you go by the logic our ancestors lived by. Women being extra-sexual to prove they love men is something women do to fool men and most men are stupid so they fall for it.
Some men are just not liked by women and it's not a radical concept to accept.

some people are not attractive to the other sex, they just don't have 'it' and they will never have 'it'
solution: deal with it or get rich

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Of course not. And nobody wants to solve the problem. Those at the top benefit from the division and women are too self-absorbed in most cases to see outside their own perspective.

Most girls are also looking to get laid. You're still ignoring the part where it is a minority of hard to find girls who aren't taken and are decent and haven't slept with more than 3 guys. More than 3 messes with their ability to pair bond.

Honestly this. If you smoke weed you should easily be able to have a girl or two to smoke with, and if you're able to do that then you should have no problem getting laid. High girls are horny girls.
>t. slept with a couple of girls who were taken under those circumstances

Is sex that important to u. This obsession wont end after u get laid. Cuz then u want a decent number then how often a month.

Just dont be wierd its not everything be at peace with it like a monk if it happens or not

Depends what people mean by "incel" I guess. Potheads that wish they had gfs, sure there must be plenty. Potheads that rage all day about roasties like Jow Forumsincels did. Kind of hard to imagine desu. Being high would make it hard to care enough.
Feminism definitively benefited alpha males the most.

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user, I’m shredded. I’m 6’2” and handsome. I’m not the one fucking these girls. A quarter of my life gone by and I only fucked 10 girls and dated like 3 of them. I cannot lock down an attractive woman long term. It’s absolutely hopeless and I say this being above average. Unless you’re a 10/10, it’s pretty much Nam out there.

Nah I'm chill about it. I think most on here are just waiting for the civil war or at least mass rioting to start. No time for jerking off when you're fighting alphabet bois or riot police.

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Nah man it's boner Robin. That pic is from more than a decade ago.

>of hard to find girls
But they are not hard to find
>More than 3 messes with their ability to pair bond.
pair bonding is nonsense
They get divorced degenerates dont value marriage

Evolving humanity is hard work. You'd know if you weren't a useless female.

I am sorry that you are unable to better yourself to a standard even remotely attractive to girls. I am far from a boomer, and I have zero problems with today's women and the bois I know that do, all fall nicely into the category I described in my earlier post.
If you pathetic loses would spend half the energy you spend on whining in here, on addressing your insecurities, we would A) eliminate all the whining and B) increase white birth rates. Both noble goals, so get too it, you pathetic excuse for a man....

Yeah, I was never an incel, but I was pretty close to being one back when I was a teenager. Was a shut in, never went out, was scared of doing any drugs, etc. Was only after I started going out, doing MDMA, and various psychedelics that I started getting laid. Weed would honestly help most incels immensely IMO.

Oh boy I can't wait to spend years to get ripped, get wealthy and set myself up in life to get some fat 6 on a good say who drinks like a fish and doesn't act like a lady

As far as I am concerned, I am a genetic dead-end and no amount of self improvement can absolve mental illness, and trying to personally tie me into your argument doesn't refute what I said about society at large. We (you, me, and the other 7 billion) are fucked six ways to sunday due to the overstepping of spiritual laws that the source (God, or whatever else you want to call it, ect.) put in place for us. Women being harlots as a commonplace acceptance is just one symptom of a fatal disease that the human spirit has contracted.

Yeah, working out like a diseased monster for the last year has really taught me a lot about women.
All those times just ripping away at it, suffering, working out in a dark room, not coming out of it for hours and hours, sometimes the entire fucking day.
Women are shallow, they have this thing where if you work out and it shows then all of a sudden you have value as a human. And we live in an age where this shallowness is not only excused, but it's even so bad that Jow Forums thinks women have it bad because not enough guys are muscular. This is a common opinion.

This is just pathetic and such a mindset will make you an eternal victim in life. The fact that only cucks claim that all women are harlots, and so on, really speaks volumes of the validity of said statement. Get your shit together, stop jerking off to anime and go to the gym or something.

Or trigger psychosis. But hey, high mileage, banged-up puss is worth it, am I right?

Women don’t bat an eye until you reach bodybuilder physique. Every other opinion is cope at worst, or meme at best. But I digress

The iron pill is the way to go. Lifting weights is the only thing that makes me feel good anymore. The feels alone should be a good enough reason, banging thots is just a bonus that comes after a while

Even though I recommend working out to cucks like your self, I have never done so in my life, and I have been landing pussy, steadily, since I was twelve. This is just pathetic cuckery

This/10.

I think it's important to foster the heroic impulse within oneself, despite the bullshit in the world around us.

Where there are no men, be one.
Ride the Tiger.
Be a Man among the Ruins.
This is our Hour of Decision.
Revolt Against the Modern World.

ironic since every incel dosen't do any drug and jerks off to anime all fuckin day

Women like you, and they don't like me. I hate women. Nothing complicated about it. I will have a lifetime of hatred against them.

High-quality, heroic men need to band together, not compete. If we create a space where civilization and safety can thrive, the right women will come along. High-quality men need to band together instead of senselessly competing over opportunities for short-term hedonistic pleasure.

Doesn’t matter. It’s all about the aesthetics anyway. I’d rather be a v taped incel then a wide hopped, pear shaped fuck boy such as yourself

Defeatist fag. You can date 18-24s years after college.

Then you are pathetic and I can promise you that women's lack of interest can be translating into ditto disrespect from males, in your daily life.
Sad to see guys like you. I could have straightened you out in a month, for sure. It is not difficult, it is just a matter of projecting or faking confidence, as well as a few methods for conversation, and that is about it.

Mom, you got it goin' on there.

Jedi flipping with a woman is an incredible experience regardless of how used up her pussy is, honestly.
To be clear, I didn't start doing drugs to get laid. It simply started happening more frequently after I started doing drugs. Incels don't do drugs. They don't do anything, they just make excuses for everything, kind of like you are doing right now.

I have never exercised in my life. I work as a computer programmer and have girly nerd-arms. It doesn't matter, as long as you project confidence

AMA
I quit a week ago cold turkey because of the fake THC cartridge fiasco and my life somehow got even worse.

Many work very hard and still get no results.
Then you just kinda give up.

Make it through the withdrawal, brother.

I even fucked the wife of a roided and tattooed up Hells Angels torpedo, while he was sleeping in the next room, the other day, here in the marina. Easy, as confidence and alpha is all in your head...

I wasn't born with the same ease of life that you have.
But you have it wrong, asswipe. Ever since I've been working out and letting nasty thoughts take over my head, you can bet that other guys respect me a lot more than they did a year ago and beyond.
If women don't like me, and they don't, they can kiss my ass. You need to understand that this is a social problem and you respond the way you do because you've been brainwashed with false ideations about privilege and women being victims.
Some guys don't have what other guys have, this shouldn't be a grand revelation to you.

Evangelion? More like EvanINCELion!

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Idiot. I am as red/black pilled as they come, I just don't sit in my room crying over my lacking ability to talk to girls. I agree that we have a societal problem, when it comes to gender roles and women rights (which should be revoked, mostly), but to resign from life and believe that there are NO normal women left to land, is just borderline retarded, my man. I would go as far as to say that you are showing an alarmingly high amount of feminine traits, here, actually. Have you checked the onions content of your protein powder...?

Why the fuck did onions get replaced by onion, here?

You're a Norweigan retard. Why do you take it so personally that random guys from across the world who you've never met aren't liked by women?
Nobody here has to answer to you, you're a nobody. You're damn right that women's rights should be revoked, but the incel problem mostly happens because people enjoy shitting on guys who are already down and out. It makes them feel good. It's a western society hobby.

How can we best get these high-quality but frustrated men working together? I wish creating a band of brothers was possible, but I fear that's fantasy.

I just kinda want a colony of iron-pilled, God-fearing homesteaders off in the woods. People can serve on the homestead for a year or two as they get their lives in order.

Maybe this is just a fantasy.

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I don't take it personally, I just care for my fellow man and the future of the white race, which means that any faggot like your self, unwilling to put in the effort to reproduce, is part of the problem, as far as I am concerned.