Redpill me on the Mormon Question

Mormons are too overly nice. They're like cultists.

Yes. We also used to forbid miscegenation and also forbid nonwhites from being leaders in the Church. There was also a very brief period in time where a few higher ups in the Church were encouraged to engage in polygamy. Times change. Luckily the polygamy thing went away. Unfortunately the pro-white thing went away.

Im a Mormon
ama if you want

this kills the Jow Forums mormon
newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/church-statement-charlottesville-virginia

some of 'em are pretty based

youtube.com/watch?v=LpIyaIHsJbc

but they are still cult followers

They legitimately think they come from a lost tribe of israel who came to america.

The true Israelites

unfortunately this is their modern stance and honestly makes me consider leaving the church

People can disagree in the Church. It's very democratic. Whenever someone gets called to a new position, someone will say something along the lines of "anyone who wishes to sustain so and so please do so with an uplifted hand" then the people raise a hand, then "any opposed by the same token" and people opposed will raise their hand. People will attend the semiannual general conference in Utah just so they can show their displeasure with a current proposed rule.

False. We think all of that lost tribe died out, but left golden plates containing their history which were then found by Joseph Smith.

They act exactly like Jews. Their family values are all fake, all the women are whores who constantly get anally fucked until they marry and have twenty girls they raise to act exactly like they do. They only like or help other Mormons and subvert every other religion taking advantage of them every way they can so that only they and any other high ranking Mormons hold any kind of power or make decent money.
Of course they may not all be this way but I grew up and still currently live in a small Mormon community and this is what I have seen first hand. They’re hypocrites and try to avoid their own religious rules just like Jews. They’re no fucking different except they’re largely considered “white” which could be the most dangerous part about them. Undercover Jewry is still Jewry. Fuck Mormons.

Sorry, I meant the religion comes from the tribe, not literal mormons.
I think that's actually interesting. Which tribe exactly?

Tell me about it. My stake is overwhelmingly white. We recently got a nigger president with a white wife. In the first stake conference, one of his counselors said something about how this is a time for change. People do not join/stay with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Saints for change. Look at how every other Christian denomination has been hemorrhaging members for the past century as they try to become more progressive.

well, the american tribe is false but patriarchal blessings do single you out as a member of one of those tribes

Nelson at the NAACP. we could hold out and build it as it once was. I got angsty and thought about bringing it up with my bishop and challenging the belief. worst case excommunicated and become catholic

Joseph.

it sure is brave of her though to face all that negative criticism though! and you know, she loves her husband so much she wants her children to look exactly like him, and not a single hint of her left!

The lamanites? Book of mormon stories that my teacher tells to me are about the lamanites in ancient history long ago their fathers came from far across the sea given this land if they lived righteously (sunday school song there exist more verses I could only remember this one). Is this the tribe you're talking about?

I wish I were a mormon to have 213 wives.

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Also, why the fuck did he "give the tablets back"?
That seems retarded.
I've always been interested with pre-columbian contact in the Americas, and the Phoenicians are a good candidate for that so I think it's plausible there was semitic people here.

You joos got no place critisizing anybody. Your god doesn't entitle you to fucking anything. I kill gods. It is the terrifyibg history of my ancestors You fucking kikes and the whole rest of the shitskin s
World is united in trying to rule. You only made us stronger. We will eat you eventually. Youre a future shit.

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Can you drink monsters?

The LDS church is the white Islam.
The beliefs themselves are a load of bullshit but it's easy to live a happy conservative life with a large family free of degeneracy.
t. Mormon

Magic underwear

>the women are whores who constantly get anally fucked until they marry and have twenty girls they raise to act exactly like they do
And this is bad?

Brazil has one of the largest Mormon missions in the world.

I have mastered witchcraft to an epic level. I study and support the use of martial tactics for its purpose. I have tattoos and support free choice individuality. I dont worship anyone, that stymies personal individual development and potential. Can i still join and get the multiple wives thing, thats truly appealing.

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I met someone that would regularly have Mormons visit her house. She told me they finally stopped visiting when she told them she was Jewish. Can you imagine how cucked Christianity is in general if they’re willing to convert other denominations of Christians but not Jews for some reason?

Jews is bad. Eben mormons know this. Some things can't be saved, and, others arent worth truing for.

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>Very brief

You mean the entire 19th century? I don't know how present-day Mormons deal with the (perhaps uncomfortable) fact that the prophet of your religion said, in no uncertain terms, that polygamy was *the* way to Exaltation. It's pretty obvious that the official stance of the church was only changed in response to the US gov threatening to invade Utah in the early 20th century, which seems like a pretty worldly, non-transcendent reason to deny your prophet's main revelation.

what are mormanon views on women? does the religion itself at least attempt to maintain that women should be in the home and not near a place of work? are mormon women B&R?

I don't know if the law permits that tho. Anyway, I got make shit loads of money first.

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who would want a jew convert? they would just subvert and destroy like they do with everything else

This. Utah is a perfect example of how a society should be run. Visited and there were radio ads about a recent wave of bicycle thefts and a newspaper article on the opioid epidemic-- there had been a total of three in salt lake city in the past year and they were horrified. That was the worst of their crime and drugs.

rank and file are mostly fine people. the administration side is completely fucking insane

From The Family: A Proclamation to the World
“By divine design, fathers are to preside over their families in love and righteousness and are responsible to provide the necessities of life and protection for their families. Mothers are primarily responsible for the nurture of their children.”
That’s pretty much how far it gets doctrinally, excluding what’s already in the Bible. Church leaders have often confirmed that statement in that past but more recently they have shown support for more leniency in parental roles if the circumstances make it necessary. Putting the wife to work while the husband stays at home doesn’t put you in any bad standing in the Church but within Mormon culture most would disapprove of it as a long term practice.

Joseph Smith was literally a convicted con man. He got killed by a mob after he destroyed a printing press over someone pointing out his shit.

And it's cause they had to give up their ban on niggers cause they figured they wouldn't be able to tell who counts as black, lmao.

LIke the Jews but white, not evil inherently, and don't have the soul karma of murdering Christ. So they're not too bad.

>There is no scripture, in any religion, anywhere in the world, that exceeds the moral vacuity of that principle.
It's literally in all of them faggot.

>By divine design, fathers are to preside over their families in love and righteousness and are responsible to provide the necessities of life and protection for their families. Mothers are primarily responsible for the nurture of their children. In these sacred responsibilities, fathers and mothers are obligated to help one another as equal partners. Disability, death, or other circumstances may necessitate individual adaptation. Extended families should lend support when needed.

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Most prophets through out history were considered criminals. Are you retarded

Kaballists believe that only Jews have an immortal soul to begin with.

the MORmON delusion you mean?

southpark.cc.com/clips/104253/joseph-smith-part-1
youtube.com/watch?v=n3BqLZ8UoZk

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Almost like there's a correlation between being scum and a self-appointed prophet of God.

Doctrinally and culturally, motherhood should take priority over a career.
churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/the-family-a-proclamation-to-the-world/the-family-a-proclamation-to-the-world?lang=eng

>By divine design, fathers are to preside over their families in love and righteousness and are responsible to provide the necessities of life and protection for their families. Mothers are primarily responsible for the nurture of their children.

They call themselves Christians, but pretty much every other denomination knows that they're pagans in disguise founded by a literal schizo. They believe a whole bunch of crazy shit, like how when they die they become the god of their own planet or something.

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mormons are masons
masons are mormons
founded by mason con man smith
rampant pedophilia

_—_

archive.is/zonxf
thread reveals phoenix mason fraud mormon influence temple lucifer basement - 2/15

archive.is/a08NE
thread next day bashing same masons for shutting down threads so they let it run til almost 400 - 2/16

archive.is/4bS5n
Day 3 thread where german guy continues the info drop and warlock library gets mocked - 2/17

archive.is/Ckszr
thread where losing masons claim to be winning team. A real low t and weak recruitment thread showing masons are on the run. ex warlock shows up and mows them down one by one and all they could do is call him “edgy” before shutting the thread down immediately - 4/7

archive.is/l4Lsi
thread they started after the warlock owned them and shut them down. he came back and slapped them around even more. they have no way to debate him. apparently masons are behind shootings in california and new zealand. a big ex warlock reveal at end. then they pull the usual “nothing itt is legit, just join a lodge, everyone else is a goy!” ... and shut it down again! - 4/7

this bingo thank you

the mormons want to give you the opportunity to join them, they really dont want you to give up your faith for them. they dont really "convert" people, they just let you know they're always looking for people to save. if youre already devout with another sect, theyll smile and be on their way

unfortunately its a do what works for as long as the family unit is there. when the family proclamation came out, a document outlining the roles of men women it said that men and women have equal responsibility towards their family. many take this to mean that women can work and the man can stay at home or this in varying degrees
yes, no alcohol tea or coffe, soft drinks and caffeinated drinks are allowed.

>people can disagree with the church
No they can’t
>it’s very democratic
No it isn’t.
For claiming to not be Jewish you sure are acting like a Jew feeding the gentile lies

did you get given your fat smelly samoan wife to breed for kolob yet

hurrrrrrr

dude you aren’t christians

also: remember when we sold indulgences once?

doesn’t sound so sinister sounds a whole lot better than whatever the fuck you weirdo mason queers are hopped up on

“change”

lol fuck you

We have the understanding that God wants us to become like he is. This can be found in the Bible, but Mormon doctrine makes it clearer. The idea of owning your own planet is speculation at most; it’s not doctrine, meaning we aren’t bound to follow it. Certainly there is virtually no Mormon who is driven by a desire to become a God with their own planet.

I am

-t cryptomorman

>everyone who fights the statis quo is a justifiable criminal
>being this much of boot licker

modern mormonism is nothing like what it was founded on. how do you reconcile this?

No loud laughter....I couldn't do it what with the bets I have to make to Satan for my soul every year in temple

>They call themselves Christians, but pretty much every other denomination knows that they're pagans
ALL Christians are pagans.

>The hierarchy of things a member should respect is God/Jesus > family > self > community.
That's basically it.

yall dont have gibz? SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIT.

Blue states in us and a give you money per ea kid. Illegals don't technically qualify for gibz, but their kids do. cash aid is granted until they are adults and food stamps are forever. if you can hide your assets, possibly in brazil, you can milk the system FOREVER.

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*Are. Ftfy

i can't i makes me want to leave but my family is heavily active and believe it wholeheartedly even small tremors of not liking the church freaks them out. they are also heavy into promoting racemixing and other bullshit

Nice, worked for a shifty Mormon who jewed on sheds he always tried to convince me to join their Masonic cult

The Church is meant to be a living church which adapts and evolves according to revelation. Yes, the face of the Church has changed a lot, as well as many of its policies, but the core doctrines are basically unchanged. I mean, consider the fact that the Book of Mormon is almost exactly the same as it was when it was first published, having mostly minor grammar and spelling fixes since then.

no i'm not married and i won't race mix
ive seen the problems it brings with my brother.
(((revelation)))

>God wants us to become like he is
Well, I think most Christians understand that; it's called theosis. However, it's more of a formal union with God rather becoming our own separate God-like entity. It's heavily connected to Aristotelian philosophy and the concepts of form and matter, but centuries of Protestantism have eroded most of that.
Anyway, what are you doing on Jow Forums? Go back to going door-to-door, Braxxton Riverford.

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I live in Utah and no... There has been much worse crime. It is like most every part of America honestly in that it is degenerate but different in that it pretends not to be.

They're natural born liars, a result of their collective persecution complex. They have absolutely no compunctions about lying to people outside of their faith. They're like muslims in this regard. Never trust one.

>What’s up with Mormons?
>they act in daily life and infiltrate and influence everything they can get their hands on.

Congratulations, you've just described every religion on earth.

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My Mormon principal blackballed me, and wouldn't let me go on honor roll trips I'd earned. They're evil cunts.

True. Everyone should read this for the real story

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They're pretty chill, my sister's engaged to one and he's objectively one of the nicest people I've ever met.

dang guess they fooled me. My cousin lives there, says you guys have virtually no drunk drivers. Is that true at least?

Hmm, I’ll look into theosis. It would be nice if we learned more general Christian theology.
I like Jow Forums because I can have any conversation I want here. Also I don’t have a Utah name.

You don’t believe Jesus is God. You think he’s Satan’s brother. You think there are an infinite number of gods. You don’t worship the true Christ!

Atheists are somehow an exception? And what about religious groups that explicitly isolate themselves from society, like the Amish?

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Kek
Underpants.

kys atheist/agnostic larper. obviously every kind of identifiable group in existence fights for their kind. it’s to what degree. aka is it kike level subversion/infiltration or not

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I still don’t get it, what is so blasphemous about Satan and Jesus being brothers? Who do Christians think Satan is? Some dude from the other side of the universe that decided to come and screw with God’s plan? Or some non-human entity that God created in a process differently from Jesus and all of us?

Us mormons are the gods of the new world order, we are the soldiers of the legion of light

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You being like the MOST HIGH LORD ? The thing that Satan was cast out for?

do you know how many mormons are in the FBI / CIA?

for real -- google it -- crazy numbers.

they're worse than Scientology.

Satan is a creation of God, Jesus is our Lord made flesh. Comparing the two is as if you were saying Jesus and Micheal are brothers or like Muslims calling Adam a prophet. Satan is just an object like a hammer or a tree not even made with free will, just a broken machine really

Jow Forums I need your help. I was raised LDS and was an active member until I left home for college. I do consider myself a Christian but seeing how the LDS church is forcing itself to become more progressive and inclusive, I just cant accept that. If I'm too conservative for the mormon church where the hell do I turn? Catholicism? No thanks, even more woke than the mormons. Southern Baptist? Sunday only Christians and hypocrites. The Jews? I'm trying to be serious here. Where does a conservative white man turn to nurture his faith and spirituality?

The angels have free will.

To the bible.

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Eastern Orthodoxy.

i don’t know about the rest of the country but east coast catholics are based and redpilled mainly because of all of the diversity training we receive from living around the metropolitan areas of the larger cities

Dude I've read the bible. Old and new testaments multiple times. Growing up LDS, scripture study was a huge part of my life. The teachings are there for sure but there is no instruction manual for choosing a church. I can relate to the story of young Joseph Smith going church to church to find God's true church.

Go to a Catholic church that celebrates Traditional Latin Mass. FSSP churches.

If the service is in Latin, how do you understand it? I honestly have no idea how a catholic church service works so when you say Latin mass, are you talking about the entire service? Just the communion part? Thank you for your advice