Why do people still want Brexit?

Why do people still want Brexit?

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Fuck the government

> Brexit comes up for vote
> Media, celebs, pols all say vote no
> People vote yes
> media, celebs, pols say forget vote, let's not do it
> try to subvert the will of the people and free elections
> PM finally puts an end to it.
> Left claims fascism

>remember, remember the 5th of september
queen makn a huge boo boo there

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this is good or bad?
sorry i'm not versed in bong tribal savage "crumpt and tea" culture

This guy embodies it. A fear of all things at all relating to governing bodies. Be it the central government or geopolitical and economic blocs. For some bongs, the EU was perceived as something that reduced their autonomy.
Of course, it’s all blowing up in their face now, with a possible no-deal Brexit on the horizon.

People voted brexit so let them exit already!

they’re low iq individuals

Based fascism

I feel like remain Tories will still cuck

Because the eu is gay as fuck. If we wanted to be ruled by sausage munching autists, we would have surrendered in WWII

>brexit is good
>has european unity flag
memeflaggot shills gotta go

>dislike = a fear of
shut the fuck up you jew nigger faggot

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based

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Make me bitch

I am pro Europe not pro EU

It always blows my mind when people talk about autonomy and sovereignty, especially when it comes to politics and countries. The developed world is largely a representative democracy for a reason. Who's fault is it that the average person is completely politically illiterate...

And out of the EU we'll be ruled by a bunch of bangers n mash munching autists. Except now they'll be able to hide their shekels in Gurnsey without anyone asking questions.

>muh we must retake our sovereignty!!!!1!!
>undermine at every turn the (sovereign) commons' ability to avoid a disastrous no-deal brexit
>become America's bitch and fuck over the NHS
>fuck over the Good Friday Agreement
>sip tea with your fellow eton boys
Boris stands up for da working patriotic brits and against da nasty globalists!!!1

This is where punctuation would have helped, bitch.

Shouldn't you have written that in latin? The common workers language.

Anything to add to the conversation’s substance, Pierre? Thoughts? Opinions?

And who exactly is asking questions now? Politicians are crooked and nothing short of a total upheaval will fix that. As that's unlikely to happen though, I'll settle for not being dictated to by a load of continental poofters.

Short the pound guys, this shit is about to crash

Also your empire doesnt exist anymore. Stfu and get fucked.

And what exactly are those continental poofters dictating to you? Care to list some things of how the EU negatively impacts you?

kek mea culpa

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Brexit. And hurry up about it. Raise the IQ of the EU.

Because the EU does not allow its member nations to stop the illegal immigration so they voted to quit the EU so they could finally protect themselves. Have you been to London lately? It's like little Afghanistan. Even mayor is a muzzy.

The bankers really don't seem to like Brexit

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Yeah, you're a bitch.

Billy Bob, travelling interstate from Arkansas to Texas does not count as international travel! Now have you actually been to London or have you just been reading too much Jow Forums?? Be honest bubba

>you’re a bitch
Coming from a country that got kraut-fucked twice, in under a 30 year span.
Raise your right hand if you like the French. Raise both if you’re French.

1. Freedom of movement + inability to defend against 4th generational warfare migration-as-a-weapon attacks puts my family and compatriots at risk.
2. Can't buy clove cigarettes.
3. Mismanagement and depletion of our fisheries.
4. Making the EU 'more democratic' through "ever-closer union" means less local democracy; more democratic EU = less democratic UK.
5. Future plans to bring Africa into the fold.
6. I'm seeing more places offering continental breakfasts, and frankly I don't like it.

>5. Future plans to bring Africa into the fold
take your meds lmao

>he thinks countries can speak

get a load of this aspie

Bongs. What does this mean? What will this do to Brexit?

>seething
Are all yanks in this thread bitches?

Do you know who this man is:
>twitter.com/guyverhofstadt/status/1101432653881008128
?

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a belgian mep with a non-existent retard campaign

IN THEORY, he's giving the lefties a time-out whilst the queen holds the door for him to deliver to us the one true Brexit.

because some people can see that the fate of the EU is to inevitably shift from confederation to federation. Eventually EU member states will be as independent as Ohio is within the US.

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Guy Fawkes night is the 5th of November

Yes, but don't downplay his importance. He's the union's chief brexit negotiator and the former leader of the centre-left alliance. He's not a nobody; he's an insider.
So one of the honchos of the centre-left is testing the waters with proposals like this, do you really think the far-left would oppose all those immigrants coming in? I don't.
With us leaving, the less socialist and further right alliances will not be able to neutralize the socialist med countries as easily (if at all).
You can tell me to take my meds, but it's clear that union with Africa is their goal.
They, at the behest of their corporate masters, want the rare earth minerals, the uranium, the oil. They care not about the destruction of Europa.
They'll claim their objective is purely humanitarian, of course.

>1. freedom of movement is putting you family and compatriots at risk
at risk of what? other than the fact you don't like people who look different to you or speak more than one language, they're literally doing the same shit everyone else is.

>2. can't buy clove cigarettes
I don't really care but this literally has nothing to do with the EU. Blame our boomer fuck government for that one, since they are legal in other EU countries.

>3. fisheries
I asked for what personally affects you, not an NPC talking point that is completely false.The EU was not responsible for large fishing conglomorates pushing out all the local ones. And our government subsidising the big ones, while fucking the little ones. Also, i gurantee you have no clue about anything to do with the fishing industry in the UK, because it's not a single industry. Scotland and England are actually competitors. Also, the fishing territories are not going to change, because we already fish in our territories, if anything we used to fish in Icelandic territories... Just look into cod-wars for some quality memes on how the UK even managed to give up some of it's own territories because iceland big dicked the UK into submission. Stop parroting UKIP talking points when you literally don't understand what you're talking about.

>4. more democratic EU
The EU works similar to our own parliament, just with more checks and balances in place. You vote for your representatives to be members of EU parliament, and they come from various parties, proportional to each countries population. Nothing in the EU gets passed unless parliament and council agree. We don't vote for UK party leaders, or for department ministers (health, education, etc), this is how a represntative democracy works. You vote people to represent you and they vote for people up the chain. Why do you suddenly care about democracy when you never seemed to care before. Direct democracy is never going to happen. Unless you want communism.

>rememeber rebember the 5th of sebtember

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>5. future plants to bring africa into the fold
This is not happening. First of all, Africa wants their own single market and are already working towards it. Second of all, they are all bought by chinks and are more likely to join them. There is however an Africa-Europe Alliance which is just a trade agreement with African nations like we have trade agreements with anyone else.

>6. I have more options to eat any kind of food I want
>I don't like it
I don't know what to say. Tough shit I guess. You wanna live like a boomer, go live in some bumfuckshire, they have all the tea and crumpets you want. No continental breakfasts in sight.

Look at this bootlicker go. No one buys "democratic EU" anymore, don't even try. It's literally a joke even for the dumbest of normalfags by now.

>1. freedom of movement is putting you family and compatriots at risk
Fully address my point, you're strawmanning.
>2. nothing to do with the EU.
Wrong:
europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-16-1762_en.htm
>3. The EU was not responsible for large fishing conglomorates[sic] pushing out all the local ones.
Strawman, re-read my argument.
>4. The EU works similar to our own parliament, just with more checks and balances in place...
Are you for real? You're a living stereotype.

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>5. just a trade agreement
Now where have I heard that before?
>6. You wanna live like a boomer, go live in some bumfuckshire
Enjoy your fucking £30 artisanal carpaccio pizza with a tannic primitivo you metropolitan twat

Good. The queen kept the parliament from subverting the will of the people

To make libtards salty. When they're salty it means their schemes are failing. It's good to make them salty, even if you don't understand why at the time.

>not knowing the army has already been deployed for possible brexit resistance

>we would have surrendered in WWII

You avoided the based option then, and now you're fucked.

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Nice contribution. Top notch argument.

>fully address my point
What point? You just made a bunch of vague statements that don't state a problem. What the fuck is a 4th generational immmigration as a weapon attack? This is some great replacement conspiracy theory shit.
>freedom of movement
What is the problem with this exactly? The UK has difficulty filling positions, especially in high skilled labour and nobody wants to do manual labour except for slavs.

Again I ask, what risk?

>wrong
>"Cigarettes and RYO tobacco products may no longer have characterising flavours such as menthol, vanilla or candy that mask the taste and smell of tobacco"
Fair enough. Smoking is fucking degenerate anyway, you want flavored nicotine, go vape. I'm okay with this ban, also the UK agreed to this, so it passed. Not gonna change even if we leave.

>mismanagment and depletion of our fisheries
>mismanagment
The EU has no control over our fisheries, Westminster does.
>depletion
Again, how is the EU responsible for us fishing in our own waters? The EU actually has very strict rules to minimise over fishing. Is the EU forcing us to catch all the fish? Or are we gonna take over new waters?

>Are you for real? You're a living stereotype.
Please explain how the EU works. You don't like me using "checks and balances"? You mean how there are like a gorillion departments all of which have representatives from each of the member states? And how not a single one of them has absolute power and that eventually everything has to be agreed by the members of parliament, which we directly elected? Or are all those members states working together to undermine themselves and the UK specifically?

>now where have I heard that before
You mean like the trade agreements the EU has with Japan, Singapore, Vietnam, Mexico, Mercosur, Chile, Australia and New Zealand? Are they in also now in the EU? Or like all the trade agreements the EU has in progress? trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/docs/2006/december/tradoc_118238.pdf gonna be part of the EU as well? Soon the whole world is gonna be part of the EU and everyone will move to the UK just to fuck with you.

>Enjoy your fucking £30 artisanal carpaccio pizza with a tannic primitivo you metropolitan twat
For a faggot who say I'm strawmanning him, that's one hell of a strawman. Also a bunch of bullshit. I live in fucking Devon you cunt. Boomer central. Tea rooms as far as the eye can see. Every cafe just sells typical british boomer shit. And this shit aint cheap either if you go to some fancy place. Nobody is forcing you to eat 30$ artisan bread you bellend, there is a fucking cafe or a pub every few meters for all price ranges and tastes. I can't believe you're complaining about having choice. That is the most retarded boomer shit I've ever read.

you know, this flies in the face of all the fucking morons that defended the royalty being kiddie fuckers by saying "oh well the Queen doesn't really have any political control, it's all just novelty".

Seems like she has quite a lot of impact on the political process.

>What the fuck is a 4th generational immmigration as a weapon attack?
I'm not accountable for your ignorance, user. You have access to the internet, don't you?
It's a rather easy to grasp concept, just do a little reading. Should be obvious to a smart man like you.
>The UK has difficulty filling positions
This is a good thing, it benefits the people of the UK more if those positions cannot be easily filled from abroad.
>what risk?
Again, do some research.
> I'm okay with this ban
Don't care, it's not relevant what you do or don't want anymore.
> EU has no control over our fisheries
False.
>Again, how is the EU responsible for us fishing in our own waters?
>The EU actually has very strict rules to minimise over fishing
Some cognitive dissonance at play here, methinks. Strange you can't see that.
>Please explain how the EU works. You don't like me using "checks and balances"?
user, you have an arrogant and patronizing attitude, you automatically assume me to be some backwards, provincial, Little Englander (in the new sense of the term). It's not your explanation of the functioning of the EU that makes you a stereotype; it's you.

Because everything has gone to shit because of non-whites and they think the EU has anything to do with it, even though the only countries being flooded with non-whites were the UK and france, and that was pre migrant invasion.

The english are dumb as fucking shit, for some fuck-all reason the english have always been the ones to decide in the UK and making the most retarded decisions ever, fucking over everyone on that little island.

I'd say #3 is making lefties and remainers seethe, which is just retarded, because "triggering" the other side isn't worth it if you throw your country in a fucking volcano.
crime is going to sky rocket though when the EU gibs stop. It'll be really bad for most of the people who voted for leave.

But for the EU this is actually very good, the UK has been one of the worst member states, constantly trying to take advantage of the EU for political gain. With these fags gone, turkey will never be admitted, now if we can just uncuck the EU and boot out the migrant trash, we'll be back on track.

So that Germany may die again

Because Boris asked her to do so.

>inability to defend from migration as a weapon
You're still not answering my question as to how any of this is a risk to you or your compatriots? Who is using migrants as weapons? How does this impact the UK? Since the US is mostly responsible for displacing people from the middle-east, maybe we should be blaming them not the EU? NATO countries are obligated to take some number of refugees during crises, so us being in the EU or not makes literally no difference. Unless we pivot to some super nationalist government, which is highly unlikely...


>This is a good thing, it benefits the people of the UK more if those positions cannot be easily filled from abroad.
How? If the positions aren't being filled, they aren't gonna be filled by people from the UK... Are we just gona magically pull out a bunch of nurses or surgeons out of our ass? If we could hire our own we would be doing that first....


>do research
Nigger go fuck yourself with your "hurr durr google it". The onus is on you to explain your positions, not for me to make your arguments for you. If you can't summarise that shit in a couple of sentences you clearly don't have a clue about what you're talking about and just parroting some bullshit Molymeme said. It's like whenever you talk to commies and they tell you to read Marx and Engels to "really get it"...

>cognitive dissonance
>EU has regulations to prevent over-fishing
>the UK somehow still running out of fish
Hmmmmmmmmmmm.... Really makes you think... Definitely the fault of the EU. Can you maybe point me at a particular legislation and how it specifically affected the depletion of our fisheries?

>make a comparison between EU and UK governance
>hurr you're a living stereotype
>provide no rebuttal regarding the workings of the EU or why you think it's undemocratic
>ask a genuine question about how you think the EU works
>it's not that you're wrong it's just that you're patronizing
>continues to pivot
Every fucking time...

the best part of it all is the remainer cucks can just pull a no-confidence vote and trigger an early election but they won’t because a more pro-brexit parliament will replace them

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>You're still not answering my question as to how any of this is a risk to you or your compatriots?
Why would migration-as-a-weapon (a concept with historical precedence, I remind you) be effective and therefore a risk to a country? It should be obvious.
>Who is using migrants as weapons?
I think a few parties are benefiting from the crisis, the far-left want their neomarxist revolution, the EU want their army, the US want to destabilize the EU to maintain their hegemony, the corporations want to undercut the native labour forces, some groups simply seem to want less white people (and are very open about that fact). It's a whole multifaceted thing. I don't know if it's orchestrated.
>How does this impact the UK?
The psychological yoke around Germany's neck is being used to allow these people freedom to travel throughout the EU. They're not friendly people.
>Since the US is mostly responsible for displacing people from the middle-east, maybe we should be blaming them not the EU?
Prove the US is responsible.
>NATO countries are obligated to take some number of refugees during crises, so us being in the EU or not makes literally no difference.
I think you're talking about asylum seekers, who can be kept in what are essentially detention facilities. These people are not who I'm talking about. I'm talking about the economic migrants, criminals, and opportunistic jihadi fifth-columnists posing as refugees.
>Unless we pivot to some super nationalist government, which is highly unlikely...
Why are you prompting me here?

I have no idea. Brexit doesn’t mean no more rape gangs. So I have no idea what the point is, anymore.

>How? If the positions aren't being filled, they aren't gonna be filled by people from the UK
Not immediately, but filling them from abroad will prevent them from EVER being filled by people from the UK, there's simply no incentive to do this.
>Are we just gona magically pull out a bunch of nurses or surgeons out of our ass?
No, we should have been training and incentivizing from the start. Now's the best time to start doing that.
>If we could hire our own we would be doing that first..
I'm not sure that this is true. If there is a high demand for labour, and a low supply, the employers have less power of the workers and so the workers can demand higher wages and better working conditions.
The labour market is intentionally kept saturated to keep people working for a static wage as the cost-of-living rises.

>Wishful thinking that there could possibly have been a deal with the EU before Brexit

They reiterated time after time that there would be no deals until after it happened. Anyone could have seen this coming ages ago, anyone could have PLANNED for this eventuality but nope, not even a thought spared for preparations.

>Ireland decides the EU is the hill it wants to die on

The EU is lame they should just change it to the United States of Europe at this point

>Hmmmmmmmmmmm.... Really makes you think... Definitely the fault of the EU. Can you maybe point me at a particular legislation and how it specifically affected the depletion of our fisheries?
"The waters around all the EU's member states, up to a limit of 200 miles, are effectively "pooled" when it comes to fishing. It means boats from one country can fish in another's seas."
>bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-46264303
Is the beeb lying?
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Fisheries_Policy#Criticism

Meant for this cunt:

Also meant for this cunt:

>>undermine at every turn the (sovereign) commons' ability to avoid a disastrous no-deal brexit
The UK was given a travesty of a "deal" that involved complete and utter subjugation on every single matter that people wanted to regain control of, a divorce fee, and no input on future rules they would be obliged to follow. The options have always been (1) remain, (2) derive no benefit from leaving and suffer additional costs, and (3) no deal Brexit.

The EU has always wanted to make it so painful to leave that it is not a feasible decision. Tyrants who would, in a just world, swing for their crimes.

>Nice contribution. Top notch argument.
I don't have to make any argument about it because no one needs convincing. The EU is not a democratic institution by any sane definition of the word. You can think it's a top notch idea and system all you want, but don't pretend like there's some actual democratic process going on down there in Brussels. It's just insulting everyone's intelligence, your own most of all.

Give me a second opinion, if you would be so kind...
Does him saying something like:
>Unless we pivot to some super nationalist government, which is highly unlikely...
seem like some sort of prompt to you?
Surely you know there are certain subjects we're not allowed to discuss in public in this country, and given how dense this chap is with regards to his other talking points, he seems to stand out somehow.
Am I just being paranoid?

Meh, you know your glowies best mate. I just assume he's some retarded plebbitor due to the constant mishmash of emotional sophistry and strawmen. Doesn't stand out too much from the average plebbit multiculti-crusader to me. Around these parts I'd expect higher standards from an actual operative. But then again, maybe they've got some sort of glownigger diversity quotas going on in bingelibong by now?

They do, but the standard wasn't so high prior to that from what I've seen.
It's the whole rigid class system thing, and how it pertains to education - how us proles 'ought' to be educated.
I'm just tired, I think you're right. Appreciate it.

Just for curiosity's sake what sort of subjects aren't you allowed to discuss in public in bong? We've gotten some hate speech laws tacked onto our free speech amendment, but it's pretty relaxed still. In Sweden I heard some old granny got arrested for calling Muhammed a pedo on faceberg so it's more Soviet over there at least.

God save the Queen.

>nigger hoping the uk will be murdered by niggers
fuck off nigger

why not have a vote on the eu joining the uk? lmao stay mad hans the anglo always wins you should know this

Jesus, so much now. It's getting bad. They're censoring all the TV programs with noticeable cuts, weird stuff too - stuff you wouldn't think they'd even want to censor.
No-one else seems to notice but me, or even remember how it used to be.
I'm scared, desu.
>independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/gwent-police-hair-jermaine-taylor-mocked-facebook-a9052291.html

its true user verhofstadt said so himself,he views north africa as european just cause it was part of the roman empire once

The EU was supposed to have been an trade bloc, not a bunch of un-elected private Corporate Banksters hell-bent on changing the social fabric of the Europe and UK. Last time I checked, even under their economic dictatorship, it was under the EU that British Plebs suffered a fucking economic depression under the EU's trade regulation Policies (euphemistically called Austerity) and they now have the absolute chutzpah to try force their Brit Plebs to pay Billions for the pleasure, and if they don't then these fucking crimes will stir-up the Northern Irish....talk about base extortion! The EU Elites Inc. are terrified that Brexit is going to lead to a Frexit and the rest of the dominoes fall and they all wind up pleading their innocence on the steps leading to the guillotine.

Man, that sounds insane. Guess you've got a long way to go trying to fix shit after brexit. Hope it goes smoothly from now on, although if I know these faggots right there's more subversion coming down the shit pipeline.

Because we hate Huns.
The Germans will drag the world into another war and know having the EU means their neighbours will be on their side this time.
Read a history book.
I take great pleasure knowing that the UK helped stopped these cunts before. Voting brexit is the closest I can get to the feeling my grandad had killing them

Oh, you can count on it that they'll try something.
I think I must be the one who sounds crazy, but I shit you not - I watched old Simpsons and Friends and things like that on a loop as a kid - I have those shows memorized. I wait for punchlines, and when they don't come, I point out the obvious cut to my friends, they do see it, but all I get back is the 'fluoride stare' of indifference.
Shit's fucked.
Appreciate the kind words.

dumb faggot, london is a majority foreign city now, they were gloating about it in mainstream articles for a while
and they have an islamist terror appeasing and downplaying brown cunt mayor
rape gangs victimising tens of thousands of white girls, showing the ineptitude and complicit corruption of many police bodies around the country
and the funniest thing? you try to negate these obvious points with your own stereotype of "dumb american"
you're 100% reddit and just because you queers got the memo not to pour salt and to disguise it with smugness does not work at all, of course you're raging over this blow to unified faggotry, you're a genuine homosexual

same thing is happening with pozzed streaming like netflix
editing movies to remove historic "bigotry" or "misogyny", outright censoring or changing subtitles as well

Queen Elizabeth is the last based Britain out there.

>British
>White

I can imagine it is, I can imagine what the censor looks like as well.
Have you also perchance found it harder to find information on google recently? Their algorithm is throwing up so much crap since the UI change, it buries what I'm actually looking for.

google is a lost cause

Your a bellend

Forcing the Queen to take a stand on the Brexit issue was a brilliant move by the new PM. Now the Bremainers show their hypocrisy by trying to sell that BJ has by-passed the UK Democratic process by following the UK legislators own rules, and the the awful fact now arises that the EU Commission has been by-passing the Brit (and European National states) Institutions of 'Democracy' for decades.

>Belgium: 'You’re not laughing now, are you?' – Farage slams MEPs during post-Brexit session

youtube.com/watch?v=KKJzQv8x1hg

What about my-a bellend?

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Censorship isn't really a thing here, but I do know what you mean with the flouride stare. I remember back after 911 happened and everything changed in the west transportation-wise. Well, a couple of years later me and a buddy was taking a flight and the security guy forced me to fucking take off my boots. I was sort of pissy about it all because what the fuck, who have bombs in their fucking boots? Anyways, as we were boarding I was sort of grumbling to my friend about all this new bullshit that was going on and how I missed how it used to be, where you just went on the plane and were on your way. And he was like... but... it's always been like this bro? Fucking stunned me. I don't know if it's the propaganda or if people just have a somewhat fluid perception of the past in general but what the fuck.

No one goes marching around saying am pro European, please support your own country and try not to think so much of others.

kek, excellent

Brits should be quarantined on their cucked inbred island. Brexit is logical.

Nip nong ching chong to you too fellow human.

>Freedom of movement
Isn’t a problem for inner EU migration for the most part

>Clove cigarettes illegal
Not in Germany, Netherlands etc. - in the US they are illegal because “fuck freedom”

>fisheries
Pretty sure the problem with the British fishing industry is that no one in Britain wants to do the job

>more democratic EU means less democratic UK
First, the UK is a monarchy with the queen simply disbanding parliament yesterday. Second, a directly elected EU Commission president and EU Council reps would be more democratic, not less.

>Africa
With the UK gone, legal migration from Africa to the EU will go close to 0.

>muhh breakfast
yeah, I think British breakfast has run its course

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Good! The royalty role is to follow the will of the people, so it's good she took that decision against the Jewish interests.

Funny innit.