Men Avoiding Female Colleagues Post-#MeToo

Men Avoiding Female Colleagues Post-#MeToo
>be friendly towards women: you're a perve
>avoid women: you're victim blaming
what's to be done, Jow Forumsacks?

>'The answer to that question, perhaps, is that a lot of men aren’t so much afraid of being accused of anything as they are they are angry that #MeToo ever happened. They’re angry that they’ve been made to think about their behavior, made to interrogate power dynamics they always took for granted, and they are punishing women for it by refusing to interact with them.'

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Maybe they're just not that interesting

>DON'T TOUCH ME EVER REEEEE
>WHY WON'T ANYONE TALK TO ME REEEE
Make up your mind roasties

Based men.

The article:
web.archive.org/web/20190829135711/https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/aug/29/men-women-workplace-study-harassment-harvard-metoo

Maybe the women are just fat pigs or std infected coal burners and the men just want to avoid them.

Women in the workplace typically are. The ones who are desirable enough to be homemakers are at home.

they only want chad you normie fuck, get it through your god damn head

The level of doublethink is insane.

gee I wonder why is this happening

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>don't hire women
>get sued
>hire women
>get sued
What is the solution here, other than to hire the dumpiest, ugliest, woman in her 40s-50s you can find in the hopes that people would laugh if she brayed rape?

>ruin men's lives/careers with false claims
>why wont men give me attention now
>im the victim here again!

>be sailor engineer fag
>assigned 19yo grill cadet
>my watch is 0400-0800&1600-2000
>0400-0800 I’m alone in the engine room
>she gets pissy when assigned jobs
>time bomb
>I refused to have her on my morning watch.
>fuck grills in mans world.

Fuck I miss living in the city. Women in the office were so much sexier

>men are angry that it happened
Nah we really arent cunt. We are at work. We are there to work. We are avoiding you to avoid having our lives ruined over your petty attention seeking drama.

If they want to be treated as professionals, they should dress as professionals . (Pant suit and tie, slacks not tight)

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>they are punishing women for it by refusing to interact with them

I enjoy doing this in public and the work place. Don't even be hateful or angry about it, simply -ghost- them. No eye contact, no acknowledgement, minimal, clipped, professional interactions that end once the business of the interaction is over with.

If you work with women you deserve to be bullied by them for being a basedboy who does a job a woman can do.

>women at work
>Always wanting to talk, think you're acting weird if you're focused on a task and not talking, sexual tension, scared of shit, gossip mongers, management toadies
End it already

This.

If you’re young enough and hot enough and married well, you’re not at work, you’re at Starbucks or meeting your friends for lunch during the day.

are you some real boomerfuck from the 70s? you cant sustain that lifestyle these days, both have to work

Why are they so adamant about pretending this happened after #metoo? This has been going on for generations.

This
Every fucking day I have to pretend to give a fuck about what my coworker thinks and all I want her to do is shut up.

The best way to win is not to play.
And that's what's happening.
They expected men to tiptoe around women, be ready to help them with everything and never try to get them.
Instead they are just ignored.

And what's worse than being ignored for a woman, let alone an attention-whore feminist claiming her goal in life is to have a "fulfilling career" and a "perfect job family" and other things such as "job husband" and whatnot ?
Nothing. Nothing is worse than being proved you might as well not be there.

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>what's to be done, Jow Forumsacks?

Stop thinking women know what they want.

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>if you shake a woman's hand your life and career are ruined forever, and you'll have to live in the streets with no hope

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>extend hand as a gesture of goodwill and interest in doing business
>they reject it
Congratulations, you just lost whatever deal you were trying to get.

>perhaps
See, they even know they're wrong and pulling shit out of their ass.

No. It's as simple as that, men don't want to get shoad out of the workplace for breathing in the direction of a sensitive female.

I don't want their succubus STD's anyway.

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who the fuck cares what the dumb feminists think the cause is, let them run wild to the brink of insanity with their clueless and circular logic, just carry on with avoiding these liabilities and focus on what furthers your career - as you should

stupid, thoughtless females are a blight to the grownups of society and they may as well be 'punished' for being their selfishness. the writer said it first, it's a punishment that men refuse to interact with them, so let it just be and move on. idiots can be thinned from the pack, it costs nothing to let happen, and everyone useful and relevant stands to gain from it

>>'The answer to that question, perhaps, is that a lot of men aren’t so much afraid of being accused of anything as they are they are angry that #MeToo ever happened. They’re angry that they’ve been made to think about their behavior, made to interrogate power dynamics they always took for granted, and they are punishing women for it by refusing to interact with them.'
No I'm pretty sure most men like interacting with women and they just get worried when they see people getting put in the stocks without any trial or due process. Basically sentencing by gossip. But it's more nuanced than that. I also have noticed a shift in male-female work relations after the metoo stuff, but it seems to go like this: men tend to generally be more careful around/avoid the women who were vocal supporters of the "I believe in survivors" type of ideology. With the women who voiced their own skepticism to this movement I don't see any change at all with how the guys relate to them. So it's not that men are avoiding women at work, it's that they avoid metoo-supporters. Which is sort of natural, no?

Women
>LEAVE ME ALONE AT WORK, YOU MISOGYNISTIC RAPIST! NEVER FUCKING SPEAK TO ME OR I WILL SUE YOU! MEN SPEAKING TO WOMEN IS LITERALLY RAPE.

Also women:
>Men won't speak to me at work. This is literally rape and shouldn't be allowed.

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>'The answer to that question, perhaps, is that a lot of men aren’t so much afraid of being accused of anything as they are they are angry that #MeToo ever happened. They’re angry that they’ve been made to think about their behavior, made to interrogate power dynamics they always took for granted, and they are punishing women for it by refusing to interact with them.'

It's both. Fuck women, and fuck getting into a position where women can fuck me over.

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>what's to be done, Jow Forumsacks?
You won't have problems if you follow the Bible brah

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Men are getting tired of women's shit, can you blame them?
Imagine being a manager, you want to give women a fair chance but then you have to deal with not just the usual crap (periods, pregnancies, more off-days) but now also the public backlash if she discovers that ANY male employee earns more than her or even worse, that she might sue one of your male workers for "rape" because he looked at her the wrong way and he's ugly.
Women are only making themselves less desirable in the workplace.

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honestly a big part of why I'm a NEET

>a cultural sign that has been used for millenium to show good faith, respect, and friendliness
>undone in one generation by women
If the future is female then this is going to be a sad and wild ride

Bitch at that age has zero value.

They've created a game tree where all payoffs are negative and are seething that men are opting out of playing the game.

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Ironically the only time I've had people take credit for my shit is from women.

My coworker NEEDS to gossip and talk with someone. You can see her body language change on days where she has to work alone.
There was a NEET working for us and was a quiet, hardworking guy. She could NOT leave the guy alone. Constantly saying hello to him and asking him question. Even though she acknowledged he wad uncomfortable. Dude eventually left.
Women are so fucking selfish and blind to their own actions.

It's not just metoo, ever since 2008 women have been on an endless REEEE that the friendzone is dead.

They must be avoided without them realizing it. Be polite yet uninteresting and beta as possible so that they distance you themselves.

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I left two jobs because people wouldn’t leave me alone to do my work, it’s a big pet peeve with some people.

Luckily Ive been outside enough this summer to get a tan so I can talk to women at work again.

Careful not to get arrested for "eye-raping" them user.

but I am chad

>risking your life to save that
Why would you do that?

You can smell from the other carriage that she only cares about her money, is a single mother and values her job above anything else.
Nothing to earn except a broken jaw and her claiming you tried to rape her with the other dude.

It's like cultural appropriation or racism man, it only works one way.

>on Jow Forums
>Chad
[X] Doubt
Chads aren’t on Jow Forums discussing women, they’re too busy chasing women.

It's true. Women constantly seek validation from men, even if they don't admit it. Ignoring them is the worst thing you can ever do to a woman because it mentally fucks with them. Inb4 quasi jap 'don't reject me' stabbings.

>rejecting a handshake
no one in the business world should have a job if they do that

This.

Talk loudly about boring things like weather, condition of breakroom's coffee, your house plants etc. etc. and they won't bother you.

>we're being punished!
>they're not afraid of being accused they're just mad!
imagine being a woman

>tiptoeing to secretly avoid them in order to not get falsely accused or rape or accused of "punishing" them for false accusing men of rape
Maybe the decent women will finally be vocal against the lesser of their sex for tarnishing the reputation of womankind.

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>it's totally not women's fault
>men are just pussies
The amount of delusion by this author is astounding.

>simply -ghost- them. No eye contact, no acknowledgement, minimal, clipped, professional interactions
They fucking HATE THAT
it's insane how much attention drives thrm

>you cant sustain that lifestyle these days, both have to work
Hot damn the Jews really did a number on you. Funny how immigrants and niggers can make it work... Hmm and they have the high birth dates HMMMMMMMMM

Boy, boomers sure did a great job of turning society into shit right as they’re retiring, didn’t they?

Holy fucking shit

the opposite of love is not hate
but indifference.

always announce your presence when entering a room with a female coworker.
never be alone with a female coworker, be it the office, kitchen or an elevator.
don't share a ride alone with a female coworker.
and for the love of god, don't meet up with a female coworker outside of work.

when they want to talk to you, use the phone.
when they want a face to face use skype.
always save/record your conversations.
this is the only way in the workspace.

Women need to understand why men don't come to their rescue. She was "attacked", but most women don't see the nuances. She was probably never really in danger, and did her thing to escalate the situation herself. Men don't come to rescue in these situations, as that would only ramp up the violence even further.

If those two guys helped her, she would probably keep insulting the guy, and pushing him even further, making the negro feel forced to escalate. Then he pulls a knife, and stabs the white knights, before killing her.

Even if we believe everything she said, she didn't handle the situation that smart. A crazy guy approaches you, and start acting weird, you leave. Sure, stand your ground if you can handle it, but don't stand your ground with the expectation of other people handling your shit for you.

>basically all culture ceased to exist about 50 years ago. Parents kick out their kids, and the kids dump the parents off at retirement homes.
I don't give a shit, we were already in big trouble.

based

Why are women so parasitic?

>Fuck you user lol it's not like I want to talk to you or get to know you
>Except when I need shit done or feel alone, you exist purely as a vassal for my unhinged emotional woes

Nah bitch how about I play emotional games with you back

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>women fuck up
>blame men, somehow
Repeat.

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Happened twice in a couple months here.
Two dudes, different cities, tried to "save" girls from being bothered.
Got knifed. One died.

But they only talk about "feminicides" in the media here, they keep talking about it every time some cunt gets killed by her husband, even if the husband blows his brains out afterwards. They keep whining and "ask the government" to do something.
As if the government could give infinite patience to a man or stop a woman from pushing someone too far.

Pic related.
Bonus : it has boobies.

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What is her reasoning based on? She can just make claims like this without any evidence and this is considered journalism?

Let’s try Occam’s razor instead: Men don’t want to be put into positions that could potentially ruin their careers and lives, even “accidentally.” In short, men consider it too risky to interact with women for it to be worthwhile anymore.

See, I didn’t even need to reference magical fairy dust like “power” and its imaginary “dynamics”

If you convince yourself strongly enough, you can see the cute aspect of the tsundereism.
But mostly they're just insufferable cunts.

They should sent out flyers that say "Get back to the Kitchen woman, serve me some coffee bitch." to their female employees to make their point stand.

>Marry that washed up church thot goy

>#metoo has made women toxic to be around at work.
>Men start avoiding women at work.

Women really are retarded if they dont see the correlation between the two.

What’s the feminist explanation for lesbians having the highest rates of domestic abuse of any demographic? Has the British government figured out a feminist-approved explanation for that which is able to blame the patriarchy?

In more enlightened times it used to be bad luck for a ship to have any female on board. Can't think why.

Are anime girls the platonic ideal of women that roasties simply fail to live up to?

>replace women in the workplace with gynoids
How would you feel about this?

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I had a girl at work falsely accuse me of grabbing her ass after that I don't talk to women there unless there is someone else present.

Before #MeToo was a thing anyone ever cared about Mike Pence was this same fucking type of article was circulated.
Yes, men don't want to mentor women at work.
Men don't want to work around women period because they ruin everything with their fucking feelings and shitty attitudes.
You give them authority it goes to their head, you give them a chance they're ungrateful, they're backstabbers, liars, and greedy.
A male executive doesn't want to leave the position and years of progress in the hands of some bitch who is getting his title due to politics and progressiveness.
They also don't want to be accused of rape or sexual misconduct.
This is a search from 2013. It's the same fucking article as OP just with the Anti-Pence and MeToo bullshit.
google.com/search?q=men not mentoring women&biw=1366&bih=654&source=lnt&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:1/1/2013,cd_max:12/31/2013&tbm=

I hate and avoid people in general, but sluts will always treat me as some kind of incel now, so mind of well go full misogynist

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You are being punished. And you love it.

>white middle class men
I can't imagine why those white male scum didn't risk their lives to rescue her.

>FEmInISts ABsOluTlEy hAte tHiS OnE sImPLe TrIcK!

For real though fuck a woman scorned, if you want to watch their heads explode pretend they're invisible.

Checked.

What happened to the friendzone circa '08

>boomers sure did a great job of turning society into shit right as they’re retiring,
They're not retiring. They literally win the lottery and then tell everyone that they're going to keep working. Boomers are a plague.

My supervisor is exactly that and it makes me want to quit. She talks to me nonstop to unload her issues and ignores or talks over me anytime I try to talk to her.

Lesbians come in two colours here: anger issues red and black and blue punching bag. Lesbians are EIGHTEEN TIMES more likely put each other in casualty, to the point where most emergency units know the local dykes by name.

The way they spin this is to declare discussing it at all to be a Hate Crime punishable by three years in jail by itself - just the "committing a Hate Crime" bit. I could not post this on Twitter here in the UK without a visit from the plastic police.

The only upside to this is that there are so few lesbians they don't count politically at all, and have to pin themselves to the coattails of gay men for any sort of traction at all, and recently they've done themselves no favours by calling out tranny bullshit. Good times.

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Do you think there'll be a job strictly revolving around accompanying men on various workplaces to ensure they always have a witness to testify against would-be thots?

I should start a business..

awareness?

Imagine a life where you have never been great at anything, never felt the urge to be great at anything, never felt that magnetic admiration to someone who was great at something, wanted to imitate and ultimately defeat him. Just nothing. Literally all you do in life is exist. Occupy space. pass the time. You're a chick.

You're bored,tweeting about your fucking hair and not even feeling any kind of happiness from it, just soothing your constant need to be bitter and cunty and petty toward other women. Every single thing you've done in the past year was mundane, shallow, and boring. You spent the last six hours reading kinda-interesting Reddit stories about people who made interesting Halloween hats for their kids or some stupid bullshit that you think is interesting and you may say is interesting but you're not really sure if it's really interesting. You're just fucking sitting there, gestating, fermenting, with a moist hole between your legs that guarantees you'll at least never have to get up and move around and work to support yourself.

And then you see men, over in some corner, having fun. You've never seen this before. What are they even doing? Instead of their consciousnesses merely sitting in their thick skull and revolving around itself, they are imbuing their conscious energy and intentionality into external objects, crafts, goals, projects. All the bitterness and cuntiness you feel nonstop seems to be absent, as they congratulate each other for being victorious, and happily learn from someone who defeated them. These creatures are truly content to be alive. They have found purpose in a purposeless universe.

And your gaze turns back on itself, on your self, and you realise you've never had that. You can never have it. You're just a stupid cunt.

So you get up, you walk over there, and you fucking ruin everything. Just ruin the whole fucking thing. The five seconds of attention you get will be worth destroying it. Because you're a woman.

This is white males literally being cucked out of the reproductive cycle.

Do you believe a nigger or an arab cares about feminism and muh rapes? Fuck no he grabs, he pumps, he dumps.
Then hes back living on welfare he's got nothing to lose.

Gg no re white race.

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because a gay dude didnt want a girl around when the dudes started getting too hornt

this needs to be kept for future generations

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>Funny how immigrants and niggers can make it work
This. The state pays for children. The only difference is Whites are generally too proud to take advantage of it. You've all seen the stats of only Whites being a net plus to the treasury. Make White babies and use welfare to help the mother stay home. This simultaneously makes more White people and will collapse ZOG.

I'd say the friendzone exploded from 08-14 if anything. Around 2014 is when I noticed an extreme uptick in TRP teachings.

Yeah sounds like a bad deal user too bad they're the half of our species which can bear and raise children.

Every U.S. court will just "agree" that the Constitution guarantees and considers female chaperone veracity only, you evil male.

And another thing.
Why don't women seek to be mentored by other women?
The answer is they hate each other and know a woman superior isn't as skilled as a male superior.
Bob in marketing who has worked his dick off for 15 years will know more and have more connections than Carol who has coast by being the gal of the board room, getting help, and who has no connections because she like most executive females think being a cunt = respect.

>men know women don't consider all men as sexual predators so they aren't afraid of being accused
>men are angry they are being forced to examine their sexually predatory behaviors.

Women logic.

>hmmm maybe the movement we started that gave psycho bitches all over the world the power to ruin any mans life at the drop of a hat with no proof whatsoever wasn't that great of an idea for the relationship between sexes
>NO IT MUST BE THAT MEN ARE JUST ANGRY
This is peak projection. These feminist whores don't know the feeling of wanting to protect your career, because they never had one.

Man, that's why I felt so uneasy around women after 10 years of neeting and anime. My ideal was princess sarah and she is lightyears away from anything that walks the earth.
But I went outside of my comfort zone and dated a girl. A feminist. So know how they think, how they operate. It's the opposite of animegirl. They despise virtue and find it makes them shallow and useless. They want to hold the world, their lives, feel like they are men like others.
They want to be men, so they say we're equal, even though nature and circonstances Say the opposite at every occasion.

Once you've accepted a woman is like a stray cat, holds no value and only think about themselves and what they want to be perceived at, you'll be happy. If you idealize them as someone like you holding principles, being selfless or wanting someone else to be happy, you're fucked and 2D might fill void.

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