The market will ALWAYS pay for you to do something- it may not pay you $30/hr to be a factory grunt, but so long as you have an IQ above 95, then you can earn $30/hr doing something.
Realize that each immigrant is not only a worker, but is a consumer as well- creating jobs in this regard.
>immigrants don't share our culture
This is a valid criticism of immigrants.
can we just have total societal collapse meow? like right meow? and not later?
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>can we just have total societal collapse meow? like right meow? and not later?
That's not how collapses work... People will adjust their expectations and make say "this is OK."
>we need immigrants to consume goods to create jobs
Its obvious that there is a huge cultural divide between natives and immigrants. Its neo-cons like you that value gdp more than happiness.
>>we need immigrants to consume goods to create jobs
I didn't say that we need immigrants to create jobs- I only said that they do.
>Its obvious that there is a huge cultural divide between natives and immigrants. Its neo-cons like you that value gdp more than happiness.
Yes, the youth aren't materialistic.
Your going to pay in blood kike.
No, idiot, they don't have protection of the law and can be enslaved, abused...
They prey the native lower classes in the job and real estate market, lower salaries...
>I didn't say that we need immigrants
Your original post seems very pro immigrant. Claiming that peoples main problem with immigration is not being able to find a job. Thats not the problem at all, people dont feel safe around them and dont trust them. Any country that gives a shit about their people would not allow immigrants because of this.
I dont think any semi-intelligent american is worried about making money
His post is literally anti-immigrant, he's just trying to tell you that commie arguments aren't good arguments against immigration. Stop being a fucking commie burger.
I just sleep at the house. Where is everyone?
>>I didn't say that we need immigrants
>Your original post seems very pro immigrant.
No, just anti "only as certain number of Jobs t exist."
>people dont feel safe around them and dont trust them.
Yes, this is the cultural issue that I address.
>I dont think any semi-intelligent american is worried about making money
Yeah, but I'm speaking on pol
>The market will ALWAYS pay for you to do something.
False, I'm living proof.
>>The market will ALWAYS pay for you to do something.
>False, I'm living proof.
Increase your skills. High minimum wages mean that you can't learn on the job.
When the job market is flooded with foreigners, you're lucky to get an entry level job. If you don't get an entry level job, you're fucked.
You cannot demand a job, it doesn't work like that. If every employer you have ever gone to says, simply, "No, thanks". What are you to do? You won't have money to do it yourself, you won't have money to move. In fact without money you'll end up with health problems (inevitable), psyche problems (inevitable), you won't look good (shitty cheap clothes). You only need one trigger for people not to hire you, and I've noticed a lot of people get by on being lucky.
Entitlement is a virus, and the only way it will end is by wiping everyone out.
Darwin will take care of these people in the end, it's your job to prepare and survive, not try to stop the inevitable.
Migrants are sending significant amount of their income to their home country, to their family. They consume only a little in their working country.
The migrants consumption is mostly living expenses, and shity food.
The consumption not necesseraly become new jobs, but increase of price. Especcialy in real-estate.
Increased supply of labor lowers the price of work.
What you don't address tho is why this magic loop can't just be executed in their home counties. Why do they need to come here to make it work? There's nonstop bitching about how third world the third world is, and this does nothing but keep them there.
You made this post to inform people that muh jobs is a bad argument against immigrants. I cant disagree with that but i dont trust the motive behind this post. I feel like thats something most people already know.
Eat shit nigger
You cannot train yourself in any way?
>Not try to stop the inevitable.
The problem is that to protect oneself from the unproductive, one has to either pay them or kill them- and we've done the former.
Developing crountries have a very low cost of living. Its easy support a family in Guatemala off an $11/hour wage here in the US. It wont work there because theyre countries are run by niggers
Low iq
>You made this post to inform people that muh jobs is a bad argument against immigrants. I cant disagree with that but i dont trust the motive behind this post. I feel like thats something most people already know.
I see your point, but
>Most people
-my post is directed at those who say "muh jobs." Consider that I'm also anti immigration- but that using bad arguments isn't productive... And it hides the true conflict which, once out in the open, will be powerful
>I feel like thats something most people already know.
Seriously? I would argue the opposite, the vast majority of people fully buy into "muh wage" argument.
Most people obsess over a single variable in economics, they don't have the brainpower to image the complexities of a nonlinear dynamic system in their minds eye.
oops replied to the wrong person
>Most people obsess over a single variable in economics, they don't have the brainpower to image the complexities of a nonlinear dynamic system in their minds eye.
Yeah, the conceit is fatal.
You also have to factor in the fact that the cost of housing has been driven up thanks to the fact that cities are centrally planned. There is really no reason the cost of housing should go up across the board, other than it is in the interests of existing property owners who capture zoning boards (regulatory capture).
In the US the cost of healthcare is also a factor, because they do not have a free market. In Canada we may not have that problem but we do have higher taxes.
So I get why people dismiss arguments about wages not being a good argument against immigration, but if you stop to think you will realize the cost of most things have dropped, except for those aspects of western life which are under strict regulation and control of the government.
>devalue your labor goy
>let in spics goy
>you arent a dumb racist goy
>immigrants are good goy
WHY DONT YOU LET IN TONS OF SPICS JEW?? DONT BE A FUCKING RACIST KIKE! MORE JOBS FOR ISRAEL HEEB!
>one day for no reason at all...
>You also have to factor in the fact that the cost of housing has been driven up thanks to the fact that cities are centrally planned. There is really no reason the cost of housing should go up across the board, other than it is in the interests of existing property owners who capture zoning boards (regulatory capture).
True- politicians keep house prices high for the boomer vote.
>In the US the cost of healthcare is also a factor, because they do not have a free market. In Canada we may not have that problem but we do have higher taxes.
Healthcare is expensive because doctors in America/Canada have higher opportunity costs than those in non industrialized countries.
>So I get why people dismiss arguments about wages not being a good argument against immigration, but if you stop to think you will realize the cost of most things have dropped, except for those aspects of western life which are under strict regulation and control of the government.
Yes. But thing is that gradual declined don't hold water with those who believe that a government can make drastic changes in the economy.
Thing is that i don't believe that one can alter the direction in which society is moving- but that doesn't mean that we cannot more properly understand it.