Coming Economic Collapse Explained

Bump for interest

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Economics has always been really weird to me. I remember reading that during the great depression there were breadlines stretching for blocks in every city, families starving, while farmers were burning their corn because there were no buyers.
Imagine that, everything you need is here, oil, food, minerals, etc, but some weird economic collapse means nobody is doing what they should be doing

Bumpin' dis sheeit.

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Not bad. He focuses too much on the West being the only ones going crazy with the printers, though, when China and Japan have been pumping so much debt into their own economy. Shit's going to get bad, but no one really knows how it plays out which is why there's so many people in denial and unwilling to question or do anything about the absurd credit paradigm going on.

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modern economics is a jew psyop

Classicly, the only thing that saves a nation from such grave financial ruin is a war. Interesting times, and I hope you all stay safe.

Wish I could understand wtf that yielding curve animation means.

Mlpol

it's the interest you get back on a bond. You're basically loaning the government money for a set amount of time, and getting a percentage of that money back. There are different lengths of time, from 3 months to 30 years.

Recently in the US, the yield curve has inverted, meaning you will make more money with a short term bond, than you would with a long 30yr one.

European countries are now having to sell NEGATIVE interest bonds. Imagine loaning your money to the government for years, and you get less money back than you put in, not even counting inflation.

Sounds like a bad deal right? Nobody would actually buy these right? The only way it makes sense to buy is if you think every other asset you could invest in would lose even less of your money, which is also bad news bears.

truthdig.com/articles/japan-is-writing-off-nearly-half-its-national-debt-without-creating-inflation-we-could-too/

I forgot to add that the yield curve has predated a recession every single time. It's like an omen of death for the financial world.

In the absence of buyers (both foreign and domestic), doesn't the Fed step up and purchase unwanted US treasury bonds by printing more dollars?

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Already did my time. 8/10 would crusade again, preferably to make the holy land christian again.

It means that once longer dated bonds yield less than short date there is a recession fairly soon after because the credit market is saying "wtf". If you loan money and get a lower yield for something ten years out, rather than if you made a safer bet by loaning that money for only two years, doesn't make sense. It means investors expect either deflation in that later time frame where in real terms they come out because the currency will be worth more then than now or there is a rush for "safe" assets such as Treasury bonds and people will eat the loss just because it means they won't lose all of their money like they would when the stock market plummets during a recession. Now you can also count perhaps on central banks just buying up even more debt, where yield isn't so important and you're buying the bonds because its price is guaranteed to go up from the central banks guaranteed liquidity. Yield goes down when the price of a bond rises, so you can buy a bond at say 5% yield and sell it when yield drop to 2% because the bond has gone up in price. You make money by buying and selling rather than holding the debt until maturity for its pitiful yield.

Other thing of interest is that the yield is continually going down the 0. Which is why outside the US, and probably some day in the US, there are negative yielding bonds. A negative yielding bond is guaranteed to lose you money in nominal terms unless rates go deeper negative and you profit from the rising price. In short: the global economy is essentially a giant ponzi scheme that will collapse if all of this cheap money isn't continually pumped in.

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Thank you user that was extremely well explained for some sub IQ nog like me.

Where should I dump my 20k euro then?

you got some mistakes there

>getting a percentage of that money back
no. you get coupon payments which are based one the face value you invested and the rate of the bond. at maturity you get your face value back.

>meaning you will make more money with a short term bond, than you would with a long
you wont necessarily get more money but only a higher rate. huge difference

>The only way it makes sense...
also wrong. insurance companies need to secure a fixed nominal amount of money for which they are often obliged to buy long maturity bonds which makes sense due to immunization by duration matching

any anons with know how of the system that can semi predict how long we have until it's really habbening?

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god british teeth is so bad

do you know any books that explain this stuff for brainlets? I have tried reading finance books but they are confusing and contain to much complicated math.

god, british teeth is so bad

do you know any books that explain this stuff for brainlets like me?

alright let's say shit hits the fan, what does your average Jow Forumsack do? die? loot some tvs and food?
or do you faggots are preppers with your house and farm off the grid, waiting, hoping expecting the day it all comes falling down?

i sure hope anyone kike enough buying gold or silver expecting to jew people out of their goods when paper money becomes just paper to buy a gun or something, otherwise you're just saving that shit for whoever has the bigger rifle

The one exception was in the 80’s though, you know that one guy who first used make America great again slogan?

Thank you. Any possibility after the entire ponzi scheme goes down there will be a return to the gold and silver standard or thats a ludicrous idea?

Me personally? I'm gonna shitpost on Jow Forums until the riotous hordes break down my door and kill me.

Jow Forums is acting strange double posting, connection error, etc.

>any anons with know how of the system that can semi predict how long we have until it's really habbening?
No, there's always a scape goat. 1929 was capitalism and overproduction, this time it seems to be China but they would need a more agressive more to "trigger" and take the blame

buy xrp, jews are collaborating to make a one world currency and it actually looks extremely likeable.

nothing you said makes any sense. Pls explain more clearly otherwise you're just causing confusion.

Usually, but that leads to inflation...massive inflation.

All this shit just makes me think this over complicated system is just in place because of usury

and we still haven't fully felt the effects of the Quantative Easing due to the low velocity of money spending. So that would catch up with us at the same time the fed is inflating the currency even further.

same here, possible DDOS or some shit

thanks, I don't fully understand it myself, and was trying to simplify it as best I can

Well guess who is going to take the biggest hit whenever this shit truly kicks of.
Also good thread and topic OP.

I just went to my local frys and they dont have any computer components. At a store that sells computer shit. Shits about to bust and those in the know are preparing.

what do you want me to explain to you? how bonds work? how coupons work? sorry for confusing you

November 2019 things will begin. November 2020 things will start to get violent.

20 year old from Southern CA. Is there gonna be another recession or crash? Pls help and explain ehat is happening & what I should do

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Our advanced and civilized society is only 9 meals away from anarchy.

It's because the government has a monopoly on what you are allowed to use as a currency (what you can use to exchange goods with other people). You can solve the current economic crisis forever by removing restrictions from banks that will allow anyone to create a currency and allow people to choose what money they want to use. The government doesn't want this because they can steal money through printing the currency and it would be harder to tax/easier to hide wealth from them.

>You are already under attack as a woman, black, brown, yellow, muslim.

*Clicks off video.

Bye now

>same here, possible DDOS or some shit
Stranger yet that didnt get me a (you) either.

Could be troubles with the servers i guess DDoS but who knows it is very annoying at the very least.

It's because the government has a monopoly on what you are allowed to use as a currency (what you can use to exchange goods with other people). You can solve the current economic crisis right now forever, by removing restrictions from banks that will allow anyone to create a currency and allow people to choose what money they want to use. The government doesn't want this because they can steal money through printing the currency and it would be harder to tax/easier to hide wealth from them.

>if you are black, if you are brown, if you are yellow, if you are a woman, if you are gay, if you are muslim, you are already under attack in america
how the fuck can this idiot not put 2 and 2 together and understand that they are the ones creating the debt?

>If you are black, if you are brown, if you are yellow, if you are a woman, if you are gay, you are already under attack in America.

Holy shit, rest of vid seems good but fuck me this guy is quite cucked.

Pretty based. I don't have other options. I will stock up for the long riot. Who knows when I'll die.

Chinese & Euro economies are already crashing. But unlike them, the U.S. doesn't live or die off exports. (only 20% of our economy) And, since they keep devaluing their currency, import tarrifs haven't affectedthe current inflation rate of around 1.5%.

The guy in OPs video irked me out when he said
>If you are brown, black, muslim or a woman you are already being attacked.

No idea on any good books, it's just stuff I've picked up over the years. For me learning is a lot like picking up a new language, and it may be for you too. I prefer to learn things like this through exposure rather than text books.
>Any possibility after the entire ponzi scheme goes down there will be a return to the gold and silver standard or thats a ludicrous idea?
As a standard? Who knows? Several thousands of years as money makes me think they won't suddenly become worthless, probably the opposite. Tying the money supply to gold is kind of arbitrary because everyone's going to be trading with paper gold anyway. Who's to say you can't just say gold is now worth X freedom bucks an ounce now, or when someone wises up and tries to get rid of your paper for your gold reserves you tell them to fuck off.

lmao great minds think alike

Same.

I agree, but the rest of what he had to say was accurate. He was probably just sugar coating the bad news with some political correctness

The video is infinitely more listenable at 1.25 speed. He also sounds less stupid because his pauses aren't retardedly long.

Will review the video when it finishes.

Are government bonds fixed interest rates? Thinking about buying some Singapore bonds. Never done that before. Shits fucked and scared banks are gonna steal my shit.

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>Tying the money supply to gold is kind of arbitrary because everyone's going to be trading with paper gold anyway.
No way out huh? I was wondering. Do you know how Germany recovered their economic that was in the shithole before wwii?

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We will probably have a full scale civil war so iam not even sure if i will have internet but then again i would try to keep everyone on Jow Forums updated to the extent iam able to if shit truly hits the fan as i'd be on the frontlines fighting for the very existance of this nation and our people.
Those who we imported the last decades will cause so much shit as their welfare checks stop coming in and it would be our final chance to solve the problems we have.

voat is pretty good if you actually have an account there.

thanks for the reminder, with 8ch gone I might as well. Their server has always been zippy.

They didn't. Its Jow Forums bullshit. He is doing the same thing the fed is doing right now, printing money

Your average yokel on the street, and then includes the majority of boomers on this board, are completely oblivion to anything and have this impression that good times last forever - which is strange to say the least, given that boomers have lived through previous market sharting; you'd think they'd be able to catch on to what's happening, but I suppose they've all been brainwashed to well by media and state.

The coming economic collapse is going to destroy physical currencies.

Be careful. Singapore’s economy is still reliant on shipping

Is this an ad for crypto?

No, Jews ultimately want to create an international digital currency that you access through an import. This allows them to shut off the chip to any dissenters and prevent non-chipped people from doing any monetary transactions.

They'll blame it on Greggsit and the subsequent collapse of the EU.

voat is pretty good if you actually have an account there.

thanks for the reminder, with 8ch gone I might as well. Their server has always been zippy.

This coming crash will be a mighty crash.
Remember, The bigger you are, the harder you fall.

*implant

Look up Charles de Gaulle in France in the 20th century. He killed the gold standard because the US was doing exactly what you describe, overinflating the paper gold beyond physical reserves, so he started buying up those paper notes and shipping the gold to France. That directly led to Nixon taking the US off the gold standard and going 100% fiat.

Argentina you should know better than anyone why crypto is valuable, given that your currency just had an extreme bout of inflation in a very short period of time because of your election results. If you had kept your money in crypto, it would have retained most of its value (although crypto is down the last few days, it's less down than the Argentine Peso and due to volatility, likely will rise back up in the near future, which the Peso will not do).

Not only that, but if you are in the northern hemisphere you might have literal starvation problems as importing food will be a nono once the monetary funds start to shrink.
This could be the biggest crash we have ever seen possibly even worse than the Great depression.

just tell me how to make money off this

>voat is pretty
voat?

Or you could be like me and get fucking filthy ass rich when we do collapse.

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>crypto is down the last few days, it's less down than the Argentine Peso and due to volatility
I can make no argument against that.

It's not going to happen like that. If anything it will be like Weimar Germany.

I do have an account there, I mostly lurk but it feels like the_donald with more liberal use of "nigger".

>the chinese are solvent and their companies are massively profitable
fuck right off

this video exists to get you to invest in this guys company and fuck you for making me watch this

I miss cripplechan post Exodus-pre-election

>omen of death for the financial world

We have one responsibility to ourselves, our families, our communities and our nation. When this orange piece of shit tries to bail out Wall Street and the corporations that CAUSED the recession like the last piece of shit, we launch the most massive protest in the history of the US. Because that is precisely what this orange piece of shit will do to us.

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Short bonds now, and in a week short the stock market. If you're smart, you'll identify a few bonds/stocks that will 100% crash as low as possible and make a lot of money that way, or you can take the safer route and buy an inverse ETF.

Be careful with leverage though: the carrying costs of highly leveraged short positions can wipe you out if the market keeps staying up. Buffet puts it this way: the market can stay insane longer than you can stay solvent. That's why he never got big into shorts, and made all of his money on leveraged buys of undervalued stocks, and a few commodities.

If you're super duper smart you'll read everything Taleb ever wrote and go hard to shorting. Taleb just tweeted about a short he's held since January that he's done very well on (the stock has lost like half its value since January, so depending on leverage he's some multiple of doubled his money).

If you want to understand economics, think of everything in terms of supply & demand.

There won't even be any money to bail the banks with, It will be a total collapse of the financial and banking system.
I honestly don't know what to expect except that it will be very fucking bad pretty much everywhere.
Self-sufficient countries will do slightly better but those who rely on imports are in for a hell of a ride.

Hyperinflation most likely, then the deflation.
We will see. It all depends on who's in charge. But a big political change is coming right after it right before that. I kind of fear that more.

>voat?
It's a hard core Russian propaganda site. Not worth my time.

I hope it's ancap this time.

What should the average person do with their money/401k if we’re expecting a recession this big?

he specifically said to look at the UNFUNDED LIABILITIES number. 125 trillion in your screenshot