What happened to the PUA movement?

Dudes stopped being in denial about the overwhelming evidence of lookism all around them, so the you-just-gotta-be-confident product sales dried up.

It turned out to be meaningless. Only retards like on Rollo tomassi website are still preaching it. He himself pretends to be young rockstar which he is not. But sober redpill teachings about relationships from them are worthy.

This.

They finally accepted the atomic black pill that looks are all that matters.

Rape by fraud killed it.

Just hold frame bro

THIS

Also, the "movement" was retarded from the start.

Rollo Tomassi is over 50 now, why won't Gen-Xers just give it up and accept they're old, even Boomers weren't this bad

They all have aids and look like homeless junkies like roosh

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this

I mean, look at Roosh's fucking beard, he's going to look like Saruman in a few years and still making up stories about fucking 22 year old Polish girls off the street

>even Boomers weren't this bad
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>What happened to the PUA movement?
men realized women today just arent worth it

10 years happened. All the guys who were gonna "enjoy the decline" realized that the decline is empty and meaningless.

Zoomers should be lucky that they have a wealth of redpill info on the opposite sex. Millennials had to wade through a sea of fluffy hat wearers and day gamers. Fucking cringiest period of incel history.

Also shoutout to the old PUAHate crew, if any of you are around.

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PUAs turned into mass shooters after they didn't get their PP touched

All the arabs and mulattos behind it gave up on the notion when they realized they could rape white women with zero penalties for a fraction of the effort. This is also why the happas are so furious these days. Without the muslim niggers to give them half-baked advice on "finessing," all they have left is mass shootings and spamming blacked porn at whites in 'revenge.'

Yeah, I like his observations in first book, but it seems to me that he is pretending to be a chad, which is rather comical.

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All Gen-Xers are still Chad LARPing, even when they're getting hemorrhoids and having to start downing viagra before they hit the club, it's ridiculous

It's not just Tinder. If the PUA theories were legit, an ugly dude with 'solid game' should be competitive against a clueless Chad, but anyone living in the real world can see how women respond to these two dudes (in fact, the Chad doesn't even have to approach).

Not a single one of these 'gurus' could cough up any evidence of an ugly dude consistently pulling highly attractive chicks. Some 'gurus' caught paying off models to make vids. Then you look at the 5s the 'gurus' end up with in relationships, and the gig is up.

What happened to RSD? Do people still watch those con men fags?

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Gen-Xers who were going to "enjoy the decline" thought the world would be 2005 forever, can't blame them in that regard

Roosh's forums used to be a wealth of knowledge on various countries and cities around the world circa 2013. I learned more about women from different countries there than anywhere else.

But travelling doesn't seem what it used to be, most of the good European countries have been severely browned since '13. Women all over the world are in full iphone basic bitch mode now, making geoarbitism less effective than it was even a few short years ago.

Nowadays the Roosh forums just seem like a slightly less edgy version of Jow Forums.

Realised sharing used women with other men isn't as alpha as they thought it was.

what do they say about spanish women?

PUA is fun for about 2 years, and then you realize all women are complete sluts and whores, every last one, and the whole issue you were having was made up in your head...

I was too young pre-recession, but I imagine clubbing back in the 2000s before social media took over was radically different than what I experienced.

PUAs made more sense back then. It was all about "being up in the clubs."

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Roosh decided that he wanted to score with some religious right wing women so he told them that he found God as a gimmick. Literally 100% of his female followers fell for it. Right now he's wheeling them in like a pro.

This.
Semen retention is the superior lifestyle choice. Fucking sluts is just masturbation with a few extra steps.

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Tyler went bald, which is men's equivalent of hitting the wall

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They are trash who want to add to the degeneracy of promiscuity that blights our countries.

German pickup artist of the first hour here.

Nothing happened. It's just a tad bit over.

Well, it was an underground larping scene of sorts, but then it got Jewed by Strauss' book in 2005 or 2006, and now it's too ridiculous even for a larp.

rooshvforum.com/thread-46875.html

Outdated of course but gives you an idea of conversations that used to take place. There were even threads on small West African countries and frozen conflict zones like Transnistria.

Most of it's meaningless now. The world has changed so drastically in such a short period of time.

i heard you get cencored now when you talk about premarital sex there xD

youtube.com/watch?v=TyJ-xLj9SEE

If you have any sense you will go MGTOW and wait for what's on the video I posted.
Literally I haven't be more in control of my finances, weight, diet, leisure time and just overall happy.
I have good money stored in the bank, great job situation, getting along just fine with relatives, keeping drama to almost zero makes your life as a men completely worth living.
I will never trade my current status for some girl, even if she fits my standards.
There's things about womens nature that will never, ever fucking change, once I have enough money and real state on my back I will get a surrogate womb in order to keep my bloodline going and I will spend the rest of my days in the countryside, writing my books, growing my food, doing woodwork and shit like that.
Life is good, life is great, don't let anyone ruin it for you and if you do it, don't complain like a retard, you brought this uppon yourself.

Time and effort (energy) are limited,spend it wisely.

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what about daygame. I start to look some pua shit, please redpill me and give quick rundown on everything senpais

intresting thanks.

my favourite PUA was this
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Check out todd from rsd or max - the natural. Some good info right there.

I don't think it was ever a "movement", was it? Wasn't it just discussion about how to pick up women, sort of "by any means necessary"?

I think you don't hear about it as much now because Trump and mainstream politics eclipsed all of the fringy, only-vaguely-political discussions that used to happen online before 2015.

It's why you don't hear about Anita Sarkeesian, GirlWritesWhat, Third Wave Feminism, Chemtrails, HAARP, GMOs, MGTOW, The Men's Rights Movement and ect.

All of that sort of got eclipsed by mainstream politics when Trump came on the scene and suddenly voting didn't seem like just "a choice between two people who are both gonna do the same thing either way" anymore.

>im fucking a whale your argument is invalid

>I will get a surrogate womb in order to keep my bloodline going

how's that done nowadays and what does it cost

I mostly lurked because even back in the day you could get banned basically for any reason Roosh wanted you banned. Liked the community, but Roosh was always a self-important loser cunt. I think it's hilarious that once he found Jesus, the entire community was like "Oh yeah. Um, me too."

The real answer is all these dudes hit the male equivalent of "the wall." Yeah, you can go out and day game 18yr olds on campus when you're 34, but you look fucking pathetic and you'll probably hate yourself for doing it.

I'm 26 and I already know women are bullshit. I can't imagine being almost 40 and still clubbing like a retard college kid.

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isn't this guy allegedly a cult leader?

Poor kid.

LOL thanks

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The MGTOW trend is definitely a good one and a product of the current age, but just as with PUA, the world will change in 10-20 years and something else will come along that you'll need to adapt to. Probably some collapse situation where a woman will literally be your slave when the gender imbalance evens out and a new generation of young women realise the necessity of staying pure come of age. You'll have a choice between staying MGTOW or taking a literal 20 something pure virgin throwing herself at you. Be ready.

I like Todd videos, he seems alright.

Any expirienced pua artist advice is appreciated. (and by pua i mean you are just good with girls)

>roosh
>PUA

he is a christian man

Speaking of PUA did MGTOW shills finally die, or commit a shooting? Seems like YouTube or everyone in general saw through there shilled shit. The only faggot that still might believe in it is that soulless weeb Raging Golden Eagle. Emaciated faggot that wears a captain falcon mask.

why would anyone assume that the sexual market could switch back into equilibrium anytime soon

women have control about each and every aspect of sexuality. short term mating was the last domino piece to fall, tinder did that job

About 100k in the states and for much less, maybe from 20k to 60k in a third world country, but it doesn't matter, you can still buy eggs from a white women from the west, even if you do it outside, you don't have to bleach anyone.
Right know the technology is not 100% reliable and you can lose your money, but in 20 years and with the current decline of birthrates and increasing economic crisis, the situation for those "reproductive alternatives" will get improved for market and political reasons.
Also, you should invest in those markets, they will go up.

>Beds thousands of women
>Christian
Ok

MGTOW has some good material if you avoid all the Jow Forums-tier bitter incels and all the Jow Forums-tier Christcucks/tradcucks pining for the marriage meme.

>Also, you should invest in those markets, they will go up.

good idea, any suggestions?

Daygame mostly translates into "harassing women." I don't know how it works in your country, but unless you're tall, handsome and charming most women don't want to be stopped in the street by random dudes.

There are horror stories from incels back in the day who made 3000 approaches without any success. Day game tries to approach dating from a mathematic, autistic standpoint i.e. "the more approaches I do, the more women I'll get." Doesn't work that way in real life and most guys are just annoying women by existing.

Attractive young women in 2019 almost universally have their headphones in/looking down at phone when out in public. I don't even know if daygaming is even possible nowadays.

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Kek. Wait, you actually took some ugly as shit sand nigger's claims of having bedded untold numbers of Eastern European women seriously?

daily friendly reminder that MGTOW, redpill, incel etc. are just different labels for beta males checking out of a society that seems to do little for them

it's over.

So remember it's key tenants, and forget what retarded neets try to explain to you. Seems pretty easy to me.

Yeah, dude seems good-looking, so all that bad press only works in his favor.

>I don't even know if daygaming is even possible nowadays.
it is and headphones are not a problem. just seek eye contact. you dont go blind from loud music, right

Tinder is a product of Silicon Valley and doesn't make a profit and is based on potential growth. When the Silicon Valley bubble pops and the Boomers and Chinese investors start cashing out, it'll disappear along with all the other social media shit that requires billions of dollars of infrastructure to keep running. Add growing immigrants from patriarchal cultures as well as blacks being blacks causing growing crime, economic collapse exploding unemployment and companies no longer hiring women due to legal risk and maternity leave costs and a culture that remembers how women destroyed civilization and the last few generations of good men, and young women will see themselves back into a corner. MGTOWs will look like a great deal, the only price is not be a fucking disgusting whore.

Look up the loveshy documentary. Prime example of men that are lost in society. The one nicknamed "advanced" had 3000 tries, all rejections, dude looked like he was going to go tranny next.

You look like a good Pepe.

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we should have a picking the right girl for marriage series

Ok I hear ya pal. But you can be MGTOW at this very moment and be "ready" for anything, actually you do have better odds if you stay single, you will save up your ressources wich in the supposed future of yours will grant you a better choice for female if they become "slaves again".
I think this whole conversation is mutted by the fact of the future development of the artificial womb, wich will create a revolution for men. But if you're right I welcome women being monogamous again.

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lol

Sorry, but what the fuck is this crap? I made MGTOW-hate threads before and the thread gets swarmed with shitbrains who should have been aborted, defending mgtow, posting pictures of sandwiches and posting
>t.roastie LMAO LMAO!
When did Jow Forums change and stop being a stomping ground for the bitter incels they call us?

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Shiiiit, not what I expected. I guess I should've been clued in by the "creepy." No hot dude is creepy.

This is definitely part of it. Something has to be said about how underwhelming the wives of these gurus are.

Game works but there are limits if you don't have the phenotype. The situation has gotten much worse since the 90s when internet dating and smartphones was a thing. The sexual market place in the west has become consolidated and we have to go overseas now to get a mate on par with or over our market value and even that is becoming challenging as smartphone culture moves there. 4 years ago I was a catch in Poland. Now only the fugs are interested. Their standards went up dramatically in a short time.

One of realizations of game was The Red Pill. That these bangs were meaningless because while we were getting sex it became apparent that these sluts were giving it to everyone, thus black pilling us about the prospects of long term relationships and marriage.

Also, look at the growing backlash against abortion in the US, add that with any problems with the supply of birth control hormones and rising price of latex condoms (a product of oil which depends on low oil prices) and suddenly sex carries the risk of pregnancies again. Governments cutting more and more welfare means being a single mother means guaranteed poverty and possible death. Whites are becoming more racist and aware of the coalburner meme so having a half black kid also means no more s oyboy cuck bailouts as well. Don't underestimate how fast this could all change, no counting actual unpredictable events and technologies and innovations. Noone could imagine something like Tinder in 1992, the same way we can't imagine what may come in 2035.

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Find an organization and look for fundraisers for fertility clinics, use your social skill, have money first, get conected.
You should get involved with doctor, I have an advantage because of family conections. But anything related to the subject, tat's a lot of chit-chat that you will have to go and do yourself with fertility clinics or doctors.

lol, the legend himself.

The incel community did more to redpill me on how shit women were than anything else. I'm legitimately actor-level handsome, but former fat kid and headfucked from a lifetime of isolation and depression. Broke too, but even as I am I can do better with women just on account of my face. The cold, hard truth about mating is that women want the best genetics and nature could not give less of a shit that genetically inferior specimens don't get a shot at reproduction.

Life isn't fair. But I'm sure Jow Forums knows that much already.

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>What happened to the PUA movement?
It's alive and well. There are various players like pic related who actually like women and know how to get laid.

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one reason is that they usually just say scripted things just babbling bullshit to keept the conversation going. Women often can sense that and lose interest if the feel he just wants to "score" and would as well take the woman next to her or the next 20 women coming his way. Women, unless they are very horny themselves, prefer it if the man seems to show some particular interest in her.

Feminists started massive propoganda campaigns to shut it down because they can't stand the idea of men improving themselves. Which is what PUA was all about.

It was never about fucking sluts. You guys talk out your ass about PUA and you can never propely quote or identify anything specific the community actually said. You hate them, then make up words and put it in their mouths. While also using their concepts like "taking the redpill on women" and talking about alphas and betas... all of which started in PUA.

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PUA was always about self-improvement. About literally becoming a man who naturallys attracts women. Pick up lines were always meant as training wheels just to get you used to putting yourself in front of females and being confident instead of shying out or acting weird. The fact that guys who weren't Chads and naturally good looking or attractive were learning how to get women to like them, pissed off feminists and women. Lord forbid they fuck a guy who self-improved rather than Chad who was just born with it.

cringe

Hookup apps are here to stay (Tinder being the bigest one at the moment). YouTube doesn't make a profit either, but do you think (((they))) are going to can it anytime soon?

It's not just about profit.

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SPBP

What do you mean what happened to it? It's alive and well.

what's a good way to meet women if you dont want a hook up?

I'm sure people imagined the same about Myspace in 2006 . The Silicon Valley bubble is still growing and Boomers are still working and propping it up with their retirement funds, when they cash out, it pops, and so does the massive unprofitable infrastructure they're built on.

>What happened to the PUA movement?
they hit the wall

You don't deserved shit. Get real you should not be worried about women if you're broke and had previous issues with obesity. There's so much shit and activities that you can still be a part of, I had gf's and cassual sex when I was in my early 20's now a decade lated I'm single and free as a kite.
You have nothing to offer, it's not even about looks, I'm not an adonis and many of my coworkers aren't either.
I will not advice on game, because there's plenty of that in PUA's.
My point is simple, you don't sit down and wait for anything good out of being a loser, I will not buy that you workout, go out with friends, have a job and an outging life and still can find ANYONE to do ANYTHING.
I've been around kid, you can bullshit a bullshitter.

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Take them shopping.

if you want a girlfriend you need to have something she wants and be wise enough not to give it to her too quickly

Never imagined that Charles Starkweather was such a chad.

5 FUCKING CHAPTAS FOR THIS?