Late stage capitalism

Lets say I give you that point (even though you are wrong and they are becoming capitalist with a strong social net) that is still moving away from marxism

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>stages

Reddit is Neoliberal shills who somehow think they're radical communists and they don't even understand their own beliefs.

Corporate socialism is late stage capitalism. Large corporations are bailed out at the expense of taxpayers so that they can continue to create profit, usually the creation of that profit from the beginning is a negative transaction for the taxpayer because corporations are shit.

No it's not you fucking idiot. You don't know anything about marxism. Marx never said you have to follow a certain guideline or path, in fact he very much stressed the need to use capitalism to raise yourself to a certain level of economic abundance.

nice sauce, faggot

Capitalism will always adapt to save itself. Socialists shouldn't try to socialize our current capital systeem because they're saving the thing that they hate the most.

You mean the anti free market trend towards public private partnerships and the subsequent shrinking of the divide between corporate and governmental entities?

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what a lying faggot you are
>Large corporations are bailed out at the expense of taxpayers so that they can continue to create profit
Omitting the part that they give back the money with interests, a win-win situation
Too big to fail is true, you cannot let some other countries surpass you or steal your market

It's easier to blame systems and upbringing rather than flaws associated with the self.
Not saying they cannot be at fault; you just can't deny that megacorps with godlike sway can only exist because people with decadent agendas condone the rotten cycle on both sides.

>what about late stage corporate-socialism
You mean late-stage capitalism?

>Capitalism will always adapt to save itself
Nope. Great depression was an absolute disaster for capitalism. It resulted in the rise of global communism. There are still states around today, like the DPRK and Cuba, that are thorn in the sight of capitalists. All that happened because of the immense failure brought on by great depression.

why are there so many free market losers on Jow Forums?

>The Great Depression happened in 1917

>You mean late-stage capitalism?
Can you prove it?

>when your wife surprises you with a BLACKED.COM subscription for your birthday

DPKR and Cuba are failures, people flee these countries for a reason, they want wealth and freedom

>capitalism means companies can do water they want and there should be no moral considering or laws!

>USSR was a significant force in 1917

there never would have been the kind of response to the soviet union and communism if not for the failures of capitalism in the 1950's. Mao wouldn't get the support he did from the peasants. Same with Kim Il Sung. Same with Castro and Che. Another great depression level failure is all we need.

And yet the west stuck with Capitalism.

>Marx admitted that communism needs a productive host ideology in order to work!

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OP has late stage retardation

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>capitalism in the 1950's
1930's

The west has always been dogshit. Most marxists know there will never be a communist revolution there, no matter how bad things get. But if the third world falls to communism, the west is fucked.

The Corporations are owned by the government. The stock market is a giant money laundering machine. The economy is a mirage. We are no different than China in this regard.

Wtf are you talking about? If it wasn't for the miracle on the Vistula the USSR would have rolled into Germany to aid Rosa Luxemburg. What kind of shitty Marxist LARPer are you?

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>its easier trick gullible third worlders because I'm were smart bro
Thanks for being honest lol

>Making your own money through voluntary exchange of goods and services makes you a loser

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>income tax is communism!!!

Communism won't happen in the west because capitalism adapts itself. I believe this is a shame because our world economic system is rotten to the entire core.

>free market
>losers
People like you, the ones unable to compete are the losers

No, it is theft
Want money from the citizens? Earn it

You clearly don't know history. FDR's policies made the depression worse. For some reason commies don't like empirical evidence and are too enslaved to verbalism and rationalization.

>I have no arguments.
>E-e-everyone else is a loser!

The free market is dominated by people who are born into wealth and have better connection. It's unfair.

>Extinction fertility rates
>Venereal disease off the charts
>Tattoos and other primitive nigger shit on every single woman over 20
>Homosexuality absolutely out of control

Yep, stick a fork in capitalism, it's done.

It ain't theft because everyone uses the public utilities created through these taxes. You are born into a society that made you able to earn money, and you when become an adult you should pay for that society to function.

How we should spend tax is something else, and i think there's a lot of shit we can do better.

either we get rid of capitalism or civilization collapses. There is literally no other option. So yeah, we are living in a late stage capitalism.

Wrong

It is theft, I did not consent

Live somewhere else then. What idiot would live in a country where his possesions gets stolen by the government? Oh wait, they don't. You're just a fucking idiot.

>the children ofrich people never suffer financial loss and drop into the middle class
Your economy must not be very dynamic

>married a virgin with no tattos
Feels good

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They do you asshole, they take it automatically from my paycheck with no consent which is theft you fucking t*rkroach

DURRR buy more new cars u silly women and basedmen! Lease lease lease
Rent rent rent
Loan loan loan

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>FDR's policies made the depression worse
You mean obstruction by industrial capitalists fucked it up.
>productive host ideology
don't get ahead of yourself. Capitalism arose from the nobles and merchants destroying feudalism and enclosing everything so that nobody else could use the land but them. This began in England too, it is not without reason it is the land of the loisence.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch27.htm

They got an unfair advantage. They could probably make much more mistakes while an entrepeneur born into the middle class would get fucked over after making 1 mistake. They also get to go to the best school while the majority of people only get into our shitty public education, and they get more connections through their family. How is that fair? We should atleast give every child in the western countries free education, wouldn't you think so? Don't let children suffer from the mistakes of their parents.

Why do you keep living there then? Heard that in Somalia you don't have to pay any taxes, so why won't you go there? Maybe because the western countries aren't shitholes due to government spending? You tell me.

If it's theft, call the cops and have them arrested

I live in the cheapest province and the others ones send us money every 3 months, I know how to play my game. I am actually leaving within a few years

Retarded, as I expect from 99% of USA posters

It's not theft though. It's your contribution for living in that specific country.

I did not consent which is theft - what do you not understand in that? Why I am unable to choose how much I want to contribute and where the money goes? See? It is theft

You consent by LIVING in that country. Get it through your skull my dude.

So we agree it's not theft. Now are you going to be a retard and start complaining about property taxes

Have them arrested then

I was not offered the choice so there is no consent

dipshit, shut up

>capitalism ever ending

You are offered the choice now. You won't leave your countries because it ain't a shithole, and that's because of taxes.

Yes, i agree that a lot of tax money gets straight up wasted, but that doesn't mean it's theft.

"The monopoly of capital becomes a fetter upon the mode of production, which has sprung up and flourished along with, and under it. Centralization of the means of production and socialization of labor at last reach a point where they become incompatible with their capitalist integument. Thus integument is burst asunder. The knell of capitalist private property sounds."
- Marx
"Production becomes social, but appropriation remains private. The social means of production remain the private property of a few. The general framework of formally recognised free competition remains, and the yoke of a few monopolists on the rest of the population becomes a hundred times heavier, more burdensome and intolerable."
-Lenin

>proving only dumb brown slaves want to be communist/socialist
I’m even more racist now

a true slave that worships his chains, congrats. Can you read? I AM LEAVING SOON!! I contribute the minimum possible, cheat on my taxes and use the hospital a lot so I can be top shape before leaving this shithole

I don't read losers' quotes

You are the one who doesn't realise he's in chains. The 0,01 controls the entire world and you are defending their reign.

There aren't many people in this planet who are more pathetic and weak than you are.

kek, I'm pretty sure the Russian Revolution is what kickstarted the global communism meme

slave, please, tell that to yourself in a mirror first - I am leaving, no more chains while you worship yours

And If they think capitalism is failing why the fuck do they want an inefficient government to take care of everyone? Can you honestly think of anything other than military (and muh roads) that the government does better than the free market? those people are retarded.

Naïve child. I see the chains that bind us ALL. Atleast i want to break them while you defend them.

Urbanite free market shills: the theard

Jow Forums never fails to disappoint me.

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Bailing out world banks because they ripped off Americans may not be socialism but damnit its trying.

>naive child
coming from a slave, it is laughable
Enjoy being fucked daily

Says the person who gets fucked daily aswell. We all have to fight this rotten system.

for the last time, we do NOT have capitalism, we have central jew banks

not capitalism

t. middleman gov subsidy scammer

China isn't communist any more than the US is

Cockshott is literally a "marxist scholar" and that model is his interpretation of what marxism/communism is, I'm sure he knows a little more about what communism than you do sweaty. If your first instinct after seeing that was: "that looks like shit", you're 100% right, but it's also what communists ACTUALLY BELIEVE.

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>free market losers
LOLOL everyone laugh @ the retard!

>early stage socialism

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We don't have a free market, real capitalism has never been tried

Wow it must suck being both a retard AND a faggot. Sorry for your loss and thank you for your service. Shalom alaikham nominus patri et nominus spiritus sanctii

Is the problem with Capitalism or the uneducated populi

For example would corporations be able to monopolize and control such large sects of the population if it were for example the 1940's or 1950's America.

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>China is communist or will at least become it.

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>im too stupid and lazy to learn a marketable skill, start my own business or otherwise obtain success on my own merits, so i go online and whine about my country’s economic system instead.
It must be hard being you. A total unfuckable, unemployable, uneducated mongoloid with no personal, professional, financial or romantic prospects of any kind. Its the first of the month so you probably get your food stamp card soon, enjoy it my friend

Capitalism and corporatism are exactly the same to normies

"Late stage capitalism" is an easier to swallow pill because it implies that capitalism can work out for most under certain conditions. It ignores the unethical practices or just the regular standards that fucked over certain people, once you feel it harming you, it feels right to pawn off your distaste for the system as some recent development rather than you getting your fucking as regularly planned.

Like a small town's active main street turning into a ghost town when a Walmart opens up. The capitalism enjoyed by the cute mom and pop shops was fun until the reality of businesses that can easily out spend and compete everyone 100 times over comes to town.

what

That’s central banking. Free money to big corps because it’s a solid investment. Without the free billions they couldn’t gobble up everything like they did and Amazon is the biggest fuck you to capitalism that ever existed as soon as they started stealing contacts and business secrets to outbuild a company that was profitable. Who the fuck wants to play that game? There’s no motivation.

It's not the 60s or 70s anymore, boomer.

While the planet burns and Bezos alone has 123 billion $ in his bank account and his slaves eat bread and water.

Checkeemmmm

imagine being this much of a faggot

this but unironically

Im 26 years old, and i made my first $100k/year salary at 21 years old working in one of the advisory functions for a large financial institution. All you have to do is:
>be smart
>learn skills
>dont be an autismo when it comes to interpersonal interactions
But i imagine that is too much to ask for the average berniebro