Find out what sort of leftist you are

Find out what sort of leftist you are

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dont even know how to process this.
let alone most of the questions

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just dont dox me david

kys kike

I can agree to this.

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i mean usually i dont care too much about these, but i was really interested in what my overall pretty right leaning conservative views would get me. i find no lack or irony in the fact logic and common sense made me a 'Utopian' in leftist eyes, apparently. either the test is garbage or it says alot about leftists for this to be the results.

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"Utopian" means something very specific in leftist circles. It's basically "non-Marxist socialism".

you seem to be reasonable so let me ask something
how did you achieve such an anti-ecological result?
I literally struggle to comprehend people like you. How can anyone be "anti-environment"? How do you reason against things like preventing factories from polluting rivers?

>leftvalues.github.io
in non bat shit insasne terms im guessing this makes me a centrist

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seems like we have the same environmental views

preservation of nature through conservation and management without restricting industry too much

why do lefties skew our results so hard tho?

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What even is all this?

Here's mine. Tbh would've answered more radically to production related questions. I blame the nebulous questions

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im not really for polluting rivers and the like, i just dont agree with environmentalists in that humanities only path forward is to disregard advancement for nature. Humanity should not refuse anything that benefits us in exchange for saving the environment. if it benefits humanity, do it. furthermore, anyone who thinks humanity cannot find a way to survive is simply foolish to one of the main parts of human nature. we will and already are finding methods and work around to the destruction of nature.

and perhaps, that is the main thing. nature, not environment. both humanity and technology can change and control what 'environment' humanity can thrive in, what environmentalists really are are Naturists. all other life on earth, if it does not benefit humanity, we have no reason to care about. sure, some of it has its benefits, but for example, lions are not. they just simply are not. or, more importantly, any benefit they can give us, we can handle ourselves without the negatives of lions, and to greater benefits even if done right. protecting rhinos as another example, is another place where we have no benefit to keeping them alive, especially as any benefit they had to the environment died long ago.

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not the best examples ill admit, but its more of to make a point; protecting nature to the detriment of humanity is foolish. if we just farmed the entirety of nature so it was all only what we needed and wished to have(trees specifically for oxygen included, obviously), there would be no reason not to do it. humanity still needs trees for oxygen and clean drinking water, sure, im not against that, but to protect nature for the benefit of animals over humanity is absolutely silly and absurd, in my opinion.

if it helps, the questions for these are often so broad and over encompassing that on the scale they imply its absurd and is why i probably got the score i did, while on more local and individual levels sure, there would be protections id have in place. just ideologically i am not the standard environmentalist.

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all leftism is the same. variety is a right wing concept

ill admit i am not versed in the differences between all the communisms and socialisms to a grand degree. is such a thing really possible, considering he was the one to write up the basis for them? even if you agree with his overall ideas, but the guts, bones, and muscles you think should be done differently, isnt it still just as much related to him by him creating the idea as any other?

can someone explain plez

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honestly it probably means you're not really a leftist like me, so thats the best it could give you.

this is pretty fucking stupid

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There are plenty of non-Marxist forms of leftism. Utopian socialism is just a retroactive name for the early 19th century "proto-socialism" that was before Marx and Bakunin . I suspect the guy who made this quiz is a cringey tankie LARPer.

>even if you agree with his overall ideas, but the guts, bones, and muscles you think should be done differently
Maybe you're just unaware of what Marx's "overall ideas" actually are. It's not just "economic equality lmao" (in fact Marx was specifically AGAINST equality as a political goal, which is one thing that differentiated him from the Utopian Socialists that came before). Marx developed a very specific way of thinking about history and economics and you can instantly recognize. Look up "dialectical materialism" if you want to melt your brain.

Then there is anarchism and everything that evolved from that. Anarchism is vehemently anti-Marxist. What you may call SJWism is, too, extremely anti-Marxist.

It's very esoteric. Most modern day democratic socialists really don't give a shit about any of this.

Reformist - to gradually and controllably transition to a Marxist based economy.

Scientific - To focus on materialistic approach on feeding the entire population, mangaging work distribution and providing top-class education and healthcare.

Very Centralist - The party should centralise all means of production and control the economy by a linear economical progression.

Very Nationalist - Socialism cannot work if it isn't based on nationality and it should be the primary motivation for the country. No immigrants, no help for outside, no minorities.

Partisan - the militants and the key contributors to the party(the best minds) should be the partisans and every citizen should thrive for education achievement and loyalty to the party.

Productivist - The means of production shouldnt stop/hinder till the goals to feed/cloth/provide materials are met. You can argue all you want with this but it still doesn't come close to capitalisms damage. In addition Parks and recreational areas should be the key factor in architectural and space planning.

Very Conservative - Woman/Man roles are known and traditional based, both genders are encouraged for equal opportunities (not equal outcome) in education and leading roles based on expertise.

Faggotry should be considered a mental illness, slut-shaming should be present all the time. Children are the key to the society, they are the center of what our economy and government should thrive to improve their life standard to all. Marriage is the strongest institution and family is the foundation for moral/nationalism/education development and thus be considered holy and should be enforced , religious belief is encouraged and spiritual development takes the lead after materialistic utopia. Religious institutes should be provided and controlled by the party. Population growth should be heavily controlled and planned.

did this test as a shit and giggles experiment

a libertarian in real life

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well, yes i am aware his ideology had more to do with just economics. no ideology can stand on that basis alone. but eh, fair enough.

though i didn't know Anarchism was inherently totally anti-marxist, so thats new, though i did know the modern leftists did get off the mark pretty heavily. still haven't met a left leaning ideology that isnt worth spitting on top of, and never will, due to the inherent criteria for one being categorized as such.

the First International collapsed because of infighting between Marxists and anarchists
The first people who got really "liquidated" by Lenin were the anarchists

imagine not being nationalist

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well, fair enough. Anarchism is about the only thing i find more absurd than socialism and communism, so hard to blame lenin there i suppose.

I got the exact same score which basically is most questions is a mostly negative

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