They ruined everything by attacking a state (ussr) much stronger than them, why?

They ruined everything by attacking a state (ussr) much stronger than them, why?

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Messed with the wrong ones noyiamsayin
Sticks and stones untill we break your bones

Geopolitical and military gamble out of sheer necessity and apparent lack of alternatives. Success chances low from the beginning, only made worse by arrogant abd self-assured attitude of the generality.

Never trust a commie. He did nothing wrong.

You on the otherhand are a beta faggot niggercumslurper

Slavs > GERMans
Simple as

USA was supplying vast amounts of equipment to the USSR which was planning to attack Nazi Germany

Germany had a brief window to catch USSR off-guard before the USSR attacked them.

They ended up attacking too late, though, and Japan's attack on the USA further made Germany's position worse.

Personally i think USSR was not considered a strong state militarily, as evidenced by the Winter War with Finland where they got wrecked.

Germany basically had won the war, but USSR refused to surrender. Compare it to French surrender when they still held most of the country but saw defeat as inevitable. This left Germany overextended to continue all out war, rather than cleanup and consolidation. This gave the USSR time to arm up and recruit men, as well as benefit from lend/lease later in the war.

It's like betting big on your hand in poker which you know is stronger, but then the other guy stays in and gets lucky on the river. Doesn't make it a bad bet in the first place.

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I'd love to see some information about this vast supply of military equipment before the war, do you have anything I could look at about that?

Soviet pest was gonna attack them anyway..

Fuck are you talking about, lend lease was only implemented in the later stages of the war as the tables were turning.

The USSR was massed for a surprise attack.

Sure. Supplying aircraft and in the same time ressources and armaments. Tanks supply was sent to the UK, the M4 tank.
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>they actually won the war the russians just didn't surrender
That's the most retarded thing I've ever read. No we lost when the first panzer rolled across the russian border. You can't do a successful land invasion of Russia and win. It's impossible. They have too much land and manpower to trade for time and too many trained reserves.

Greed

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>I'd love to see some information about this vast supply of military equipment before the war, do you have anything I could look at about that?
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Preemptive strike, the USSR was gearing towards an invasion of Western Europe that would have involved a massive armed insurrection with Communist partisans while the British would invade from the West.

Fuck this retard. Didn’t even mention Danzig.

Hitler and his staff literally thought that they would be beaten within half a year without great problems. Here is secret recorded meeting with him and the leader of Finland where he says that they massively underestimated the Soviet Union and how well armed they already were.
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Suvorov makes a lot of simplifications in his analysis. Read Nigel Askey's (author of Operation Barbarossa: The Complete Organisational and Statistical Analysis) opinion on the subject
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20/20 Hindsight dude. They had absolutely no idea USSR was stronger. German intelligence on the USSR was almost non-existant. They didn't know that the USSR had such such a gigantic industrial base. They severely underestimated the actual number of Soviet miltiary personnel and their reserves. Due to this they also had no way of knowing that the USSR had the largest motorised army in the world in pure numbers, although their tanks were (mostly) inferior. Barbarossa was based on the premise of a weak and incompetent Soviet military armed with outdated and largely inferior equipment which the Germans witnessed in Spain and in Finland.
If you are asking about the strategic reason: the USSR was the only state on the mainland European continent which could now endanger German hegemony. The German-Soviet Axis talks had failed, Soviet interests inevitably conflicted with the German sphere of influence. Conflict between the two countries was thought as inevitable at the time. And it was better for it to happen now when the Wehrmacht was already mobilised and the country on war economy(also before nukes but that's hindsight again). A quick victory in Russia would have(in Hitler's mind) secured an eternal German hegemony over Europe. The real grand fuck up was when he brought in the USA as well just because of the Japs which were doing terribly and were probably going to finnish up China and India and get ready to attack the USSR after 20 years the way things were going.

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the kill count was 7 dead Soviets vs 1 dead Reich soldier, had it not been for multiple fronts, the war could have been won. it all comes down to British backstabbing

Britain didn't invade europe until September 43, you'd already lost the east by then fighting on one front.

All that mucking about in the desert was just a bit of shenanigans, you're blaming that for Stalingrad?

>we
what a fag

in case you dont remember, they whipped the ass of almost the whole world and if the usa would have not back stabbed them we would all have paradise right now.
thanks jews.

Do you know about Lebensraum and their ambition of expanding borders to very Ural?
Hitler and most of his regime were greedy faggots and thought they could get away with it.

First you make a pact with soviets on dividing europe, but then act like a fucking victim when you brake it by invading and start to lose.
Fucking germanic retards keep repeating shit untill there is no europe left.

>Poland, France, Yugoslavia, Greece and the British expeditionary force one by one
>almost the whole world
When they really faced almost the whole world they lost(continental powers such as the USSR) they lost.

Nazi can win against ussr , if they not start genociding of east slavs and make a Russian controlled government on occupied territories . Everybody hate communism in Russia during that time , but Nazi s was stupid and don't use this because muh muh slav subhuman

Lol no that was 1,5 soviets against 1 kraut

are you dumb? because this tate was so strong they had to attack before it attacks them

USSR was dead up until the lend lease act. It’s the US that hanged them.

Reminder: the lend lease act saved your country and the only thanks we got was a fuck you and regards from the ministry of propaganda.

>much stronger than them,
The USSR wasn't much stronger than Germany at all. It was terrible strategy but Germany was a lot more powerful on the world stage.

Germans have the industrial power of all europe , so I think that lend lease balanced our chances . But anyway , thanks

>the only thanks we got was a fuck you and regards from the ministry of propaganda
Cmon now the Soviets and later Russia paid off their Lend-Lease debts in full. Bad blood between you two but at least this financial matter was settled.

Germany was a small and divided country which was defending itself against four malevolent global empires controlled by jewish finance capital. Barbarossa was a desperate attempt to delay the inevitable. The Soviet invasion of Western Europe was slated for July of 1941. Germany lost the war but they prevented the direct kike military conquest of the planet, forcing them to take the slower route of conquest through media and finance.
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They created the USSR and then attacked it later and it whipped their ass and invaded half their country. Funny shit. Germans are retarded

Because they had no oil. They had no oil because they soured relationshpis with everyone else.

Their interpretation was that a conflict with them was inevitable. It was a gamble on taking them by surprise early. Realistically they were the only threat. The allies would never actually succeed in a naval invasion against a full strength defense. If a conflict was inevitable even after the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact ended, then foreign support for Germany was not going to be a thing. They were on their own either way. Soviet Union was a larger nation that was able to mobilize more of their economy and people for war, and giving them more time to prepare would decrease probability of success. It was a moment of opportunity. The Soviet performance in the Winter War was terrible.
>Lebensraum
That's a meme. If they just wanted land, they would have went to Africa. Not to Russia to fight one of the strongest nations.

It was their only option. It was obvious that the USSR would invade soon, so striking them first was their best shot. There was no way the Axis could protect the Romanian oil fields, were the Soviets allowed to take the initiative. Besides, the Scandinavian countries were left pretty much defenseless after the Winter War (no more Mannerheim line), so that vital resources from that region (mainly Swedish iron) could also be easily denied.

The Ribbentrop-Molotov pact was never meant as a permanent state of affairs. Hitler saw in it the opportunity to isolate Poland, possibly keeping England and France from getting involved, whereas Stalin wished only to deflect German aggression westwards, whilst he consolidated his position on East Europe, and made ready for the inevitable war with Germany.

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Arrogance and poor planing.

They didn't have the navy to take over African colonies. Africa is a meme almost unsuitable for the white man. Malaria, Tse-Tse, foreign and hostile climate make most of it unusable for population growth and colonisation in the relatively short term. It almost lacks connection to mainland Germany and has the notorious disadvantage of not being on the world island.
Meanwhile in Eastern Europe you get so much fertile land at the cost of just Komar and floods. Well cold climate as well but Europeans are much better addapted to it.

>Why did Germany attack Russia

Because it was planned that way

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>They ruined everything by attacking a state (ussr) much stronger than them, why?
1. Germans overestimate their power regularly.

2. Imperialistic capitalism of Germany needed slave labour, new resources in order to keep the economy going and to pay off debts. Otherwise Germany would go bankrupt.

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This is one of the most retarded things I've seen

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oh yes

What the fuck are u talking about

because the ussr would inevitably attack germany
so instead of waging war kn german soil they chose to wage war on russian soil
unfortunately the allies took normandy and the italians proved once again that they are incompetant. so german resources were directed to the western and southern theaters when they were really needed in the east

mess with poland and get ready to get fucked, retarded germanoids

Then they deserved their ultimate fate simply because of Hitler's dumb as fuck decisions. In nietzschean philosophy (that the Nazi's themselves ascribed to)..Germany lost the war...therefore they were the inferior people. Its why 'might makes right' may sound wonderful to edgelords...until you lose yourself at some point.

Together to victory , my polish slav brothet

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>Nazi Bad
>Jews Good
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