If white nationalists simply it their shit together there would be ethnostates all over the world, but here we are living in multicult shitholes by choice.
There are islands the size of small countries for sale
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If I pay for half of the ethnostate do I get to be king?
Price: $20 million
Off the coast of southern Chile, 23 miles southwest of the big island of Chiloe, lies Isla Guafo. This uninhabited, nearly 50,000-acre island boasts more than 44 miles of coastline and provides a home to a diverse array of flora and fauna.
To the southeast, colonies of sea lions and penguins regularly visit the island’s shores, and it’s also an important nesting site for the black-winged petral and sanctuary for the South American fur seal. Blue whales traverse the waters to reach the interior sea of Chiloé and the Moraleda Channel. The cold waters of the continental drift create a high concentration of nutrients here, resulting in the area’s rich marine biodiversity.
A healthy layer of topsoil, ranging in thickness from approximately one to five feet covers the island, providing nourishment for leafy native forests with noble woods. Most common is the laurifolio forest, common to Chiloe—the island represents the southern boundary for this type of evergreen forest. Isla Guafo is also home to the tree species Peperomia fernandeziana (congonilla), giving it Priority II status in terms of biological conservation in Chile.
On its eastern side, the island reaches an elevation of 1,000 feet, its highest point. To the north are 432 acres that belong to the Chilean Armada that house a meteorological station and a lighthouse, which have a heliport and a dock. All water rights are exclusive to the island’s owner.
Dumb. Every single government run by Jews would instigate civil war between you, initiate psyops, and if nothing else would bandy up everyone's fears by calling your tribe a communist shithole. It's literally every pretext for invading.
That was just an example, there’s are hundreds of them, some are far cheaper.
count me in
>minimum iq 120
>only whites
>our main export will be coding
>be buy eastern european wiafus
The problem is taxes. I wanted to buy a smaller cheaper island, but for a million euro upfront cost you have to factor in 100k per year in taxes minimum, more if it has natural reserves on it and even more for any infrastructure you build. It quickly adds up to 1/5th the purchase price in fixed costs just for taxes every year
im with the toothpaste. but we need to get some Jow Forums guys to take care of getting the island first. im sure theres a few that would be up to creating a Jow Forums ethnostate.
This post just how much of a begginer you are in the subject of creating a state. You can't build anything to call your own if you do not haev sovereignty. Those islands are not sovereign, it's like buying land in a country and then calling it a state.
Nigger would just show up there as well..
That’s why you buy it overseas where there are little taxes and no one cares what’s happening.
It's not sovereign, but it's private property and you can invite people in or keep them out as you please. Hell, i'd buy it and isolate myself from the world
>That’s why you buy it overseas where there are little taxes
Here you pay taxes on property in foreign countries as well
I just submitted my bid.
Why not just build something in the middle of nowhere instead? Cheaper and more practical.
If you want a state with sovereignty you need to take over a state, the best place for that right now is Iceland, only 350k people living there and easy naturalization laws.
the real way to create a Jow Forums ethnostate would be by creating our own floating island in international waters,
>sea steading
that way we have soverignty and are immune to nationstate laws and shit like that.
It would be like the king of the flies, only with all fatties and one twink.
If this ever took off, they would just clamp down on that too by letting nations claim jurisdiction in some way, or by enforcing 'international' law through the world state govt. Libertarians have their heads in their asses.
Middle of nowhere can still be reached easier than an island. If you want to isolate yourself, islands are ideal but much more expensive.
Besides ethnostate larps are just that, a larp
We could always take over the Faroe islands, theres less than 300 ppl that actually live there and its soverign. Any of the shitskins living there that didnt like it we just make em take the swim.
I'm sure you could structure an ICO and have a blockchain organization of government and citizenship. Idk what it would look like, but it seems like you could have a more secure system than the US voting system if it was on a blockchain
thats an excellent idea, im actually a crypto bro.
>run an ICO for a DAO centered around chan culture and creating an ethnostate out of the funds collected thru the ICO
>guarantee citizenship to anyone who participates more than xyz $$ to the ICO
this could work
Could be a asset(land)-backed currency and only land owners get to vote
the only real solution would be some concept of sea steading, so essentially making an oil platform like city in the middle of nowhere in the ocean. thats the only way we could keep it soverign.
There is nothing more retarded than seasteading, international waters means you're under the sovereignty of whoever controls the waters, aka the US Navy, and even then you still need your "floating island" to navigate under a flag per international laws, which means you're stuck with the laws of whatever country you're flying under, meaning you have no sovereignty.
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either this or we take the picarin islands by force and wage a war against the fucking british to keep the islands for ourselves. which could be kinda fun, we'd get to shoot redcoats. it would give us something to do, Jow Forums bros would for sure sign up for that
Not going to happen, it is not ruled by the local population, but rather by someone appointed by the UK government that doesn't even live in the islands himself. Also fighting a "war" against the UK is a bad idea.
You couldn’t submit a takeout order faggot
Lol you dont own the island you are paying some jew 20m just to pretend you own it. chile could take it away at any moment. What sort of army navy and Air Force can you afford to stop them? It is not even a legal state. Your only hope is to pay the Jew his money then try and secede, tell me how that works out for you.
we both know the UK faggots wouldnt do shit if all of a sudden 3,000 Jow Forumslacks armed to the teeth genocided the 55ppl that live on the island and militarized the island to kill anyone like the brits that decided to fuck with us.
UK would just let the territory go just like theyve dont with more than 60% of the territory they ever claimed
this thread should have stopped after this post. a proposed white ethnostate wouldnt even get off of the drawing board, the (((banks))) would kill it in the womb
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>We could always take over the Faroe islands,
Wait, aren't we still at war with Tuvalu?
wasted digits. fuck off u limp wristed faggot. some of us actually have a spartan spirit
You're just retarded if you think something like that would happen.
It’s been tried many times.
What’s a good ethnostate that doesn’t get invaded or subverted and overrun by shitskins?
you're feudal lord until overthrown by a council of your superiors
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>never underestimate the madness of Jow Forums
Iceland is the best option.
the first target in any psychological operation is the various militaries. don't confuse widespread machiavellian tactics with successful and efficient widespread machiavellian tactics . . .
Why not create a massive underground "research station" at Antarctica and go from there?
Usa will invade you in order to bring DEMOCRACY to your tyrannical island.
you have to secure it with theodosian walls . . . any UDT team could be deployed to infiltrate, they'll even tunnel under
what are you going to do fight the global jew from your moms basement
in order to beat the jew, you have to become the jew
>for sale
By who? Who would stop you just moving in.
you don't need to export anything but information. infiltration of militaries should be your primary objective
i see where youre going with this. maybe we should get a handful of redpilled jews on our side so that they could streamline this process of our ethnostate. the legal route. no war involved.
It worked for Russia taking over Crimea
I think you don't understand that the reason why we lost the US is all because of the french.
Those islands would still be owned by the Chilean govt. I have no idea how much money you would have to pay them for sovereignty, but bear in mind you dont own that which you can not defend.
Because logistics, retard. We starve in a month. You need something as self-sufficient as possible.
Then renounce your citizenship after moving to the island
Chile.
So now we're a world power with nukes? Nice.
Would die out within one generation since only retards and incels would want to live there.
user brings up a fair point, even if sovereignty were given for a price, lets say the island builds up infrastructure and an economy and starts doing well for it self. how long until said country (chile) wants its land back? twenty, thirty years?
paying for sovereignty would cost into the billions im sure of it. and then youd have to work out some kind of agreement to be allied with the host nation. or just hire and train a local militia to be your security.
>lets ask the wolf to watch the sheep while we're gone
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White Nationalism doesn't exist, that's why.
Those days there has been some talk about Greenland as a place to take over, but we all know that that place doesn't have viable economics to support too many people as of now, and most of it is frozen and harsh, on the other hand we have countries like Iceland which is basically paradise on Earth, with only about 350k people, having a population lower than Malta, even though this country looks tiny on a map, it is actually massive in terms of size compared to other European countries, being larger than Netherlands, Belgium and Luxemburg combined, with still 30,000 km more land of difference left, while having less than 2% of their total population. With favourable nationality laws requiring only 7 years of residence for non-Nordic people to become citizens, with a reduction to 4 years if you are Nordic, you can easily immigrate there and become a citizen.
Now, what is there to stop a movement of right-wing people moving to Iceland and becoming citizens, founding their party and turning Iceland into a permanent right-wing state? It would be specially easy to do that if you are from a Nordic country, and a movement like that would only need about 100k people to move in order to get more than 50% of the vote, even less if you want to count for that fact that a lot of Icelanders would vote for our party. It would have a lot of importance to have a state to safeguard European peoples, with our own laws, and it would be of strategic importance due to it's proximity to the Arctic. By implementing a non-interventionist foreign policy, similar to Switzerland or Singapore, we could do anything we wanted and rely on our sovereignty, and there would be no excuse for supposed oppression of non-Europeans, because it is a native European country. Why didn't any Europeans think of this before, specially Nordic Europeans? What is there to stop them?
Stats:
GDP (nominal)
Total: $27 billion
Per capita: $75,700 (5th)
Population: 360,390
Demographics:
89% Icelandic
5% Polish
1% Lithuanian
5% other
HDI (2017) 0.935
very high · 6th
daydreaming faggot. you think few dozen autists can buy an island with their neetbux and tendiecash?
more like export/surplus as much as possible
>doesn't need to be ag-based
agree, chile will not let you go do anything
>falklands 2.0
>greek islands are state-secured at least you get a title
liberland already has $=votes via blocks
>someone could just buy out all your voting and then your business/land is stuck in a dictatorship
>also unclear as to where $ go after the vote, seems like its just a voting asset, so its basically a corp... no explicit need for blocks
summary:
corporate feudalism on greek island exporting labor/coding services with low taxes makes most sense (i.e. a hotel/resort or cruise ship that avoids taxes)
>no reason to have it be an island except lower taxes or weird racist laws
Private property
They would brainwash the masses with propaganda about "Nazi island" until they had full public support for an invasion.
oy vey!
you mean a nazi island like:
>next to ocean
>strong nationalism
>socialist services
>strict immigration laws
>shooting people at border
>ethnicity-based immigration
>believe we are chosen people
>invading countries to the east that start with the letter P
like that kind of nazi island?
Why are they uninhabited
Sovereignty of a tiny ~15000 sq acre island wouldn't cost billions I don't think. Greenland was going to go for 350 billion? I don't know if that's right, but adjusted for land mass that's only 10 million for a 15000 sq acre island. lets say it's 10 times that and it's 100 mil.
chile has a million islands
imagine your living expenses then add a couple boats
That Doesn't answer the question. There's a reason why no one lives there and chile wants to sell them
We are so close to cracking the code...
7k per acre financed is not a huge price for sovereignty
wtf I love france now
Would people get automatic citizenship based on genetics, kinda like Israel birthright?
Well they're only selling them as property, not to separate from the chilean govt's rule.
So why does anyone sell land? No one is living there because chile has a relatively low population and like user said theres a shitload of islands. To set up an infrastructure on every one costs money. Even if they're suitable for living not everyone can afford to get set up there, or it isn't worth being away from the mainland cities.
Just live in the countyside in your own country. The cities are multicult shitholes, but shitskins can not live outside those cities. Take the Vargpill
I don't think so.
I also don't have 100 million dollars. If I win the lottery I'll give it a go and let you know.
Who's doing the agriculture and water? Power?
for the same reason greece wants to sell theirs and nobody wants to live on islands off east coast.
>temperate islands are not warm
>logistics costs
like i said in my last post here
the only reason to do it is either 1488 or 1776.
the problem is most are just 99 year leases and have restrictions on what you can do to the island
This is not a solution.
I'd say yes, but you would strictly have to be of European stock. Slavs are okay, and I'd even be alright with the Irish. Basically, as long as your genetic heritage is European and you have not muddied your genes, then welcome aboard.
And this time, we'll pick our own damn cotton.
citizenship requirements list:
>must have foreskin
end of list
also i forget where but there's a strange like principality that is open to anyone from anywhere in the world as long as you can support yourself. Russia owns a part of it and some other nation administers the other part but it could be an option but it's going to be harsh living
Personally I still have my cock intact because I am an Englishbong, but I wouldn't hold it against Americans who's parents decided to offer them up to the Kabal. It's not their fault and they can still be very good whites.
exactly
otherwise we would see a lot more resorts, cheaper than a cruise ship, lower taxes....
>gov'ts like to dig their piggy fingers in whatever you do
Why would I want that? In 3-4 Generations time our own Daughters will invite the scum of the world into our ethnostate and destroy it like they did with every other.
This. Imagine trying to establish any sort of financial system
Too late
Spitzbergen
>not trading goy coins in a small localised economy
yeah basically it's Svalbard no visa needed, no resident permit nothing can just move there and start living
just institute the rule for anyone new after the 1st year
actually, do it in America today...
I've ran this scenerio in my head and here's how it turns out:
>be white nationalist
>save up money for an island
>OhBoyFinally.mp3
>You buy it and set up huts and a strict viking era dress style only
>it's just you and a couple of Swedes, a Brit and an Italian
>no girls
>invite girls
>they don't wanna come cuz they just wanted to make beta bucks and were never serious about your movement
>get tired of waiting
>brit suggests Azn q.t.3.14s cuz he's an autist
>italian agrees cuz he's a horndog
>swedes agrees cuz their next move is to start fucking the wildlife on the island
>invite girls for the men on the island
>then a bunch of LARPer white betas figure out this can be a golden opportunity
>they start moving to the island and inviting gold digging filipina skanks
>suddenly it's an entire island of white male asian female couples
>next generation is a bunch of hapa girls and autistic incels
>the women leave to find superior dick
>the men stay and invite other non-white women that want to move to an island
>fast forward 100 years
>it's the united states of 56%ica
hawaii?
Kek.
Even if this did happen, and a whole bunch of wypipo got together to buy an island. Do you really think it's gonna be anything but sloppy NEETS who would begin to freak out over the idea of no Mountain Dewy?
I imagine it looking something like 98% males, 1% unfuckable females, 1%' XD whites are the bestest' girls. And that's looking at it favorably.
But seriously though, what would all the wypipo have to be angry about anymore? You can't project hate onto others, so you'll project hate onto each other, and might start eating each other before a year's time.
>hehe goys, this is a dumb idea, isn't it? We'd only start to argue with each other, and our white women aren't even fuckable!
>let's all just stop trying, and accept our jewish overlords.
>we sure do suck, don't we, fellow whites?
Most folks here haven't moved out of their parents basement yet and haven't even been outside of their own home town. They have never cooked their own meal except for heating some gas station junk in the microwave. Beating the last CoD, LARP'ing and posting pictures of their daddys guns does not change the fact that this "ethno state" will never happen.