What is your worst experience connected with your nationality or religion?

What is your worst experience connected with your nationality or religion?

I'm Bosniak, muslim, but secular
I'm not attending to mosque
I'm not even circumcised
I feel that i'm Yugoslavian, as nationality ( without any religion )


A few months ago my ex gf broke with me after big short love because i'm Bosniak
She was bosnian Serb girl, orthodox believer, right-wing from small all-serb village

She said that I was her big love and she regrets nothing, but I'm MUSLIM BOSNIAK, AND IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO BE TOGETHER because we are from OTHER WORLDS
SHE IS SERB, I'M BOSNIAK
and that I don't go to mosque doesn't change that I'm not serb

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all the yugos I've met who identified as yugo as opposed to some meme country with identical demographics to its neighbours has been an objectively better person

Can I have her number?

muslims dont belong to Europe. If you are not even attending mosque and feel more European than muslim then why dont you just renounce your religion?

dude just, bro please go to serbian orthodox church and go back to your original faith before the ottomans came. You are serb, please understand this brother. We don't want islam and the arabs you bring into our sacred serb land of bosna. learn your real history man!

>I'm not attending to mosque
>I'm not even circumcised
You are not a muslim.
She was just trying to be nice about you having a small dick. Btw my dick is massive, you can tell her to come over.

Bro, religion has nothing to do in this case. She found a albanian chad with 8 inch dick

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Nobody likes you Mujo, as you can see from this thread. Your tragedy consists in the fact that you accepted foreign religion and customs that are completely at odds with Euroepan ways of living. You accepting conquerors religion and customs and gradually identifying yourself as them makes you a literal Stockholm syndrom victim. Even though you’re racially European you don’t have that kinship that Europeans sense with one another even though they fought against each other for centuries. You don’t feel the common pride in fighting the non-European invaders that is deeply entranched in many european nations and used as mythos to their struggle and inspiration for current generations and generations to come. You don’t really have friends in other countries or at least someone that is symphatetic to you. Because of you losing your old traditions “making friends” with other countries is unlikely since you don’t have common things to share. This situation puts you in self perceived enemy surrounding countries who want to take “your territories”. And with no one too help you turn to “mother” Turkey, which only reaffirms your neigbours opinion on you as “non-Euroepan” Europeans or interlopers because of you siding with culturally backward, at odds with European customs and hated “enemy”. You’re a cuck Mujo, Bosnia shouldn’t exist and I pity your tragic existence.

Secular Bosnian muslim girl here. I have ex bf's that have pakistani, somali and norwegian background, my current fiancee is norwegian and I have random fun with boys all over the world when I have been partying and travelling with my friends, but I would never let a serb touch me. Serbs are the most disgusting creatures alive, Serbian war criminals killed my uncle, his children and half my family

10/10 could not have been said any better. Thank you based serb.

No
As a curiosity I want to tell you that today is her birthday

>feel more European than muslim then why dont you just renounce your religion?
I'm not interested in religion, like my parents

>dude just, bro please go to serbian orthodox church and go back to your original faith before the ottomans came
No, after these experiences i will not change my religion as soon

go away s*rb
My family is secular. We were commie in SFRJ times

Now she is in relationship with serb ( all her friends are serbs )

Being Bosniak is pretty sad when you think about it. All the Croats left, then you're left with Serbs who simultaneously think you're a Serb but also don't belong. Your only option is to move somewhere else where everyone still won't like you.

>i'm muslim
>i'm secular

>i'm mohammedian
>i'm secular

>i self-designate as an anti-secular
>i'm secular
Uhuh, uhuh.
I see all those tactics Muhammad wrote in the Quran about how and when to lie, and how to wage subterfuge and subversion, how to larp secularity, are paying off well.

>I'm secular
>muslim memeflag

You are using an islamic flag. You consider yourself muslim.

That's enough. Islam is a virus. It's a disease. Will you sleep with a chick who has siphylis just because it's in early stages and not so obvious?

>I'm not interested in religion
You define yourself as muslim and have a muslim flag. You are therefore contradicting yourself.

This is what Islam does to people. It is a disease that must be eradicated.

Just renounce your religion. It was forced onto you by the Ottomans to avoid ficki ficki and paying Jizya tax. They stole your sons and made them janissaries. They stole your daughters to become sex slaves. The Turks are not your friends, they were your subjugators. You’re european, Islam is foreign to you.

you and your serbshit neighbors will be tractored soon

You'll die out before we do Crorat.
However a few seconds before you die, Bosniaks will first by some unexplained miracle.

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Based christianity will save the west, i'm i rite bros

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stupid stupid motherfucker croatia is a shit hole a piece of shit on the earth. you are the scum of the shit you motherfucking dumb sticky ass licker piece of shit "croatian" you fucking backwards fake nation and people i want to spit on ur shit you fake evil and ego centric fucks

>not even circumcised
Do... do muslims circumcise? I didn't know that.

>I'm Bosniak
Bosnia does not exist only Croatia, sub human.

>Serbian war criminals killed my uncle, his children and half my family
The real crime was not finishing the job.

Whait, you just sad that you are a whore and that no serb ever touched you. Thank godnes lol.

shit thread, post sweet tunes
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Nearly 100%

>weak bait
>montenegger falls for it

why i'm not surprised

What is common between a bosnian and a serbian?
They both belong in a work camp!

You're ancestors already threw away their religion, you might as well just become either an atheist or a christian, change your muzzie name and become either a Serb or a Croat as opposed to that meme "Bosniak" identity, at least then you'll belong somewhere
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I have question
If I was not bosniac, I would be more Serb or Croat?

According to Jow Forums it's better to convert into Catholicism or Orthodox faith ?
Yes, they are
80 - 90%

user pls to be explaining bosnia to an ignorant burger who was given typical burger education?
>turkroach invasion
>serbs remove kebab
>roach nest forms in croatia
>croatian roach nest eventually declares itself bosnia
>???
>bosnia civil war
>???
how far off am i?

>I'm not even circumcised
Consider yourself lucky, you dodged a knive-raping

Bosnians werent serb orthodox, they were catholic with a minority of bogumilists.

after ottomans invaded much of the catholics fled to croatia as refugees and the emptied land was given to the bogumilist converts to islam.

serbs came to bosnia as colonists during the ottoman period as well.

Personally I would suggest orthodoxy since Catholicism is as cucked as protestantism. Croatia is also more cucked than Serbia so it shows the difference even tho the people are almost the same. But it is not like you need to be religious per se. Just don't be a mountain muzzie

Look into what your ancestors were, there might be writing in churches (unless your faggot bosniaks burned them during the war) saying whether your ancestors were catholic or orthodox
Whatever it might be, anything is better than the meme "bosniak" nationality and that shitty religion

You are a Serb. Go back to being one and get that girl back.

You dare call yourself secular and then choose the only of 3 branches of the Abrahamic Religion which is by definition anti-secular, by definition created for war and subversion, led by a well-documented warmonger prophet who isn't a myth and who is the authority defining Islam, and mixes politics and religion into an intrinsic mix more than even fucking Judaism.

If you want to be Secular then choose whatever the fuck isn't Muslim, down to Buddhism and Atheism.
Calling yourself a "Secular Muslim" or a "Peaceful Muslim" is a god damn paradox, an oxymoron.

>Persian Invasions of Greece in BC start long-standing war between Middle East and Europe
>Islam is birthed and spreads primarily through war and invasions into Asia and Africa
>Turks adopt Islam
>Turks continue the tradition of Middle East trying to invade and colonize and enslave Europe
>Slavs come to Balkans
>Serbs become willing serfs and protectorate under Byzantium
>Bulgarians kind of go under Byzantium, but are always chimping out and trying to replace the Empire from day 1
>Cucktholic Europe is too busy waging wars among itself and not giving a fuck
>Cucktholic Europe proclaims Orthodoxy to be heresy so now Orthodox have to deal with Catholic Europe trying to erase them and Turks trying to genocide them
>Serbs lose the war against Turks because our entire army decided on a fine night to get drunk overnight, and Turks get an easy victory by taking advantage of our mental retardation
>Serbia faces genocidal inquisition of Catholics, Bulgarians being such good brothers and trying to force us under their Empire, and Ottomans invading
>Turks give the deal "we won't genocide you or rape you too much if you become protectorate"
>Serbia goes under Turkey like the rest of the Balkans with the deal
>Croatia gets 100 years under them with disagreement (worse consequences)
>fast forward to Balkan League kicking Turks
>Croatia is nowhere
>Members of Balkan League are the only Kebab Removers

Can't be Muslim and secular forever. Sooner or later they'll force you to choose.

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many thanks. where/when does bosnia happen?

Bosnia was always a region of mixing Serb and Croat people, it was never an ethnicity.
The only time Bosnia had a discerning characteristic to give it an independent personality from Croatia and Serbia was the introduction of Islam by Turks.
So Bosnia as non-Croat and non-Serb entity can only be wholly defined by the presence of Islam.
Kick the Islam out of the equation and it is either Croat, either Serb, or divided between both.
You can safely consult the English wikipedia on it.

you might not be religious but culturally you're still muslim
its not only merely about religion or being religious anymore
culture and identity was molded and shaped by religion

Balija jedan kupi kilo slanine i pocasti joj babu pa ce sve biti dobro.

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>Kick the Islam out of the equation and it is either Croat, either Serb, or divided between both
nope
like i said here its more than religion itself as religion has shaped culture and identity through time
its more about culture and identity now

Sorry to hear that man, it absolutely makes no sense that a serb (turkish rapebaby) doesn't want to date a bosniak (turkish rapebaby). She was probably seeing someone on the side.

Feels bad man.

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gotcha. thanks again m8.

and muslims in bosnia through time rarely mixed with christians thus creating their own gene pool
so being muslim now is not only about being religious and belonging and being a part of a unique culture and having an identity of it's own but it is also about genetics too
it has evolved, it is entering a new stage

also since there is no yugoslavia or anything to keep it in check anymore bosnian-muslim culture flourishes and continues to develop rapidly

god i wish my nation wasnt majority kebap

>reko mi ortak da su najbolje kurve u sarajevu jel istina to

delete yourself pls

delete the turkish cock up your ass

Do Skanderbeg proud and start removing them then. Which are you, Orthodox South or Catholic North?

Most Albanians I know drink/ smoke and just celebrate holidays, but aren't really dedicated muslims

>The only time Bosnia had a discerning characteristic to give it an independent personality from Croatia and Serbia was the introduction of Islam by Turks.
that's not true though. bosnia had a mostly distinct religious identity even before the turks came. the majority of medieval bosnians were followers of the church of bosnia, a heretical church denounced both by the serb orthodox and the catholic church (see the bosnian crusade). orthodoxy was mostly present in eastern bosnia and herzegovina (even though stjepan kosača was himself a follower of the church of bosnia) whereas catholicism became a factor in bosnia only with the latter kotromanić kings and after the introduction of franciscan communities (and in what is now bosnian krajina, but that region was never part of the medieval kingdom). the ethnic origin of bosnians is a far more complicated question though.

>What is your worst experience connected with your nationality or religion?
I'm an American, and since the 1960's the Jews have been trying to genocide my people.

i wish i could remove them, but blood comes before faith. i still love them.
thankfully no muslim here takes islam seriously, most are muslim in name only. we tend to care much more about nationality.

>Mohammedan in name only
No such thing.
Convert them or remove them.
The only name worth having is any name that's not Muslim, of any religion that's not Islam.
To hell with blood, we both have business to attend to, evicting both Islam and Commie remnants.

>I'm Bosniak, muslim, but secular
>I'm not attending to mosque
>I'm not even circumcised
>I feel that i'm Yugoslavian, as nationality ( without any religion )
You are a turk though

>the ethnic origin of bosnians is a far more complicated question though
Not really,West is Croatians,East is Serbs.

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blood always comes before faith, your mentality is kiked.

>Islam bad
>My corrupt mafia syndicate masking itself as a religion isn't though

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>i am not circumcised
Good, that is mutilation and it's immoral and it should be illegal.
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>serbsihits have access to the sea
every fucking "map"

enjoy your landlocked shithole you dumb orc

Blood ain't worth shit if it pledges allegiance to Arabs.
You are missing the longer road and bigger picture though.
4 billion people are starting the long-awaited vengeance against Islam.
India, China, Buddhists, Georgians, Armenians, some Slavs, Christian black Africans, and finally massive rise of populism in Europe from what was basically 1% a few decade ago to 40% and rising, are all starting to pile upon Muslims.
India, Buddhist South-East Asia, and China, are especially alarming. Myanmar is a good example which is only the starting spark.
Islam is pretty much doomed long-term.
So save yourselves by shedding the Islamic label for good, because the genocide waves against Islam are coming, starting with the East.
West can't protect them anymore, and is less and less willing.

I'll take any syndicate over Muhammad. Syndicates are at least easy to deal with.

you're ignoring a thousand years of ethnic migrations

Oh,who migrated to Bosnia aside from more Serbs and Croats?

vlachs

>allegiance to arabs
bullshit. i have yet to see a single albanian that thinka positively of them, or any of the middle east really.

>Islam is pretty much doomed long-term
>Islam is the only religion not going through a major wave of secularism

Islam is the only religion that will not be majority secular in the next century, while all denominations of Christianity will not even be shells of their dormer selves. Like Paganism, even Christ will join the pantheon of dead Gods in the long run.

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who cares, you will die by russian nukes.

Deus vult

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>blood always comes before faith
YES
this
its not a question of religion, its a question of blood
bosnian-muslims don't pledge allegiance to anyone but their own blood and to their home country and living space which is only where that blood can be preserved

sad projection
you have no nation or history

So Bosnians are Vlachs?Why do they speak Slavic instead of a Latin language than?
"Vlach" is also just what Balkan Slavs call Balkan natives,rather than migrating they have been present in the Balkans before Croats or Serbs in Bosnia.

>bullshit
How's it bullshit if you literally call yourself a follower of Muhammad and therefore an Arab Slave/Follower?
Islam is Muhammad and Muhammad is Islam.
It takes mental retardation to engage in the paradox of both being a self-identified follower of Muhammad and then saying "but not really!".
This is why nobody takes Muslims seriously anymore.

>Islam is the only religion not going through a major wave of secularism
Islam can't go through secularism by design as Muhammad wills it and writes it in the Quran, which is why it's starting to be genocided now by 4 billion people who were waiting for the last century for the Westerners to weaken and destabilize enough because the West was the only saving grace of Islam.

>bosnian-muslims don't pledge allegiance to anyone but
Muhammad, ergo calling yourself Muslim.

Croatian clay
Go to Turkey

there is a difference between calling yourself a muslim and being a muslim.
but faith is the least of our worries, unless we start getting our shit together we are about to get fucking exterminated.

Why are the christcucks the only religious group in the world to welcome savage foreigners from God know where they from?

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>there is a difference between calling yourself a muslim and being a muslim.
There isn't.
In both cases you are pledging yourself to Muhammad, because Muhammad is the only and core difference between Islam, and Christianity/Judaism.
Without Muhammad the very label doesn't exist.
So you are calling yourself a follower of a warmongering prophet who waged over 50 campaigns of aggressive war, expansionism, and colonialism upon what now amounts to over 4 billion non-Western people in the world, who enslaved people of all races, who fucked a prepubescent, and who combined politics and religion and corrupted Bahira's teachings to create Islam.
There's no confusion to be had about this, nor is there any confusion to be had about people calling themselves Muslims.
If you are not a follower of Muhammad, then you are not a Muslim, search another label.

>In both cases you are pledging yourself to Muhammad.
there is a difference between saying you follow muhammad and following muhammad.
i dont think yoy understand what im trying to say.
yes, islam a shit, but theres a big difference between a muslim in the middle east and an albanian muslim

>Many of these settlers were Vlachs, members of a nomadic pre-Slav Balkan population that had acquired a Latinate language and specialized in stock breeding, horse raising, long-distance trade, and fighting.
>With time most of the Vlach population adopted a Serb identity.[119][120][121]
it is not completely clear but it is assumed that vlachs came from the area of present-day border region of bulgaria and romania

Islam can't go through secularism by design because it's a warrior religion that above all else values that might is right. It's an eastern religion par excellence due to the fact the lead figure reaches enlightment while still alive. In western religions only through death does the lead figure reach enlightenment, which is the current sentiment leading to the dwindling demographics. Westerners see fulfilment of their prophecy in death while easterners see fulfilment of their prophecy by surviving. In the long run you are doomed to fail only because you're set up to fail since the beginning.

If that is the case,than that migration would count as "more Serbs",since they would adapt Serbian identity they would not affect Bosnian people(LARPING Croats and Serbs).

>there is a difference between saying you follow muhammad and following muhammad.
There isn't when in either case you are openly stating that you accept and approve of the man and deeds and his history, making the inherent danger and making the entire shit about secularism and peace a paradoxal self-defeating meme. Nobody buys this shit except dumb Westerners who have never opened the Quran, never opened the Hadith, and never lived next to or under Muslims for between 400 and 1400 years.

At least we have someone intellectually honest here. We shall see how it goes. 4 billion vs 1.8 billion is a tough one for Islam, and this equation excludes white Westerners and also Latinos who are going Crusader-mad in their own retarded way as of late.

holy shit you're braindead.

it took some time, they probably didn't adapt serb identity overnight
youtube.com/watch?v=3GE8WdYugDw

>4 billion vs 1.8 billion

You mean to honestly tell me that all religions and anti-religions will unite together despite their fundamentally different outlooks on life and enlightenment to defeat the big bad boogeyman Islam?

You need a reality check brother.

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completely fucking braindead

>Yugoslavian
this was a dead in the water idea from the start. everyone rejected this ethnicity when karađorđević tried to impose it during his rule and tito killed it even more by making up a shit ton of new ethnicities to bolster his idea of brother and unity and prevent any group from becoming dominant. the only feasible way forward is to either integrate into other nationalities or try to build on the idea of a secular bosniak nation without attempting to impose it on serbs and croats living in bosnia.
there's some strong backing for the hypothesis that immigrating vlachs integrated into a slavic identity and muslim religion. there was an extensive study published years ago by a sarajevan university professor on all the census data from the ottoman period in which he found strong indications backing this idea, but i can't seem to find it anywhere right now. regardless of how true it is, my point is that there was a ton of ethnic migrations and mixing during the last thousand years in bosnia (serbs, croats, turks, arabs, vlachs and even hungarians in the post great turkish war period) that's it really hard to pinpoint a single ethnic origin for the inhabitans so the issue should be scrapped altogether and national identity should be based on something other than a dna analysis.

Are you a brainlet?
I already showed you in Serbs and Croats inhabited Bosnia before "Bosnians" even existed,and that is of course before the Vlach migrations,so calling all Bosnian Serbs Vlachs like the mong in your video is absolutely incorrect.
He also says "rumuni-cigani",so he is uneducated enough to not know the difference between Romanians and Roma people.
In fact try using your brain,if Serbs did not inhabit Bosnia before those Vlachs migrated and took up Serb identity,who the fuck Serbinized them?The Croats lmao?No,obviously the Serbs who already lived there.

Fair,i only have problem with Bosnians who straight up deny their Serb and Croatian roots,and not because i want Bosnian to be Serbs,but because to logically do so you must falsify and deny Serb and Croat history in the area.Like for example who claims that Bosnian Serbs are all Vlachs,despite Serbs inhabiting the area before Bosnia really kicked off.

quick question, what prevents bulgarians from being identified as yugoslavs? yugo means southern and bulgarians are slav. you cant say language because macedonians speak bulgarian and they are yugoslavs. would you say bulgarians are also yugoslavs, theoretically?

>bosnian-muslims don't pledge allegiance to anyone but their own blood and to their home country and living space which is only where that blood can be preserved
Čujte bando islamska muđahedini stiči če vas naša ruka i u Ankari.mp3

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>holy shit you're braindead.
I'm not, you are, or at least anyone deceived by your dumbshittery.
The only reason to call yourself Muslim is to differentiate yourself from the other 2 Abrahamic branches.
The only difference is Muhammad.
Muhammad comes with a specific history, creed, and bio, which you've called yourself upon by labeling yourself Muslim.
The only reason to keep calling yourself Muslim is the hope that Islam from South and South-East will come into the region again and spare your descendants for continuing to pledge yourself to Muhammad's cock.
Muhammad also states clearly in the Quran, how and when Muslims are allowed to lie or not abide by his creeds if it preserves their continued operation in a region where they are the weakest power. This is why nobody takes your dogshit mental gymnastic meandering as anything less than bullshit. Muhammad has you by the balls on that part.


>You mean to honestly tell me that all religions and anti-religions will unite together despite their fundamentally different
Already are jimbo.
Islam is so fucking dogshit and hated that differences are being put aside temporarily just to genocide Muslims all over.
Why?
Because now countries are aware of each other and their mutual hatred of Islam, as opposed to when they had to deal with an Islamic zerg-rush almost alone throughout history.
Islam has made itself a priority problem in the eyes of all people.

Thats a Croatia flag

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