What is your worst experience connected with your nationality or religion?
I'm Bosniak, muslim, but secular I'm not attending to mosque I'm not even circumcised I feel that i'm Yugoslavian, as nationality ( without any religion )
A few months ago my ex gf broke with me after big short love because i'm Bosniak She was bosnian Serb girl, orthodox believer, right-wing from small all-serb village
She said that I was her big love and she regrets nothing, but I'm MUSLIM BOSNIAK, AND IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO BE TOGETHER because we are from OTHER WORLDS SHE IS SERB, I'M BOSNIAK and that I don't go to mosque doesn't change that I'm not serb
all the yugos I've met who identified as yugo as opposed to some meme country with identical demographics to its neighbours has been an objectively better person
Asher Roberts
Can I have her number?
Ryder Lee
muslims dont belong to Europe. If you are not even attending mosque and feel more European than muslim then why dont you just renounce your religion?
Jacob Richardson
dude just, bro please go to serbian orthodox church and go back to your original faith before the ottomans came. You are serb, please understand this brother. We don't want islam and the arabs you bring into our sacred serb land of bosna. learn your real history man!
Caleb Sanchez
>I'm not attending to mosque >I'm not even circumcised You are not a muslim. She was just trying to be nice about you having a small dick. Btw my dick is massive, you can tell her to come over.
Cooper Ramirez
Bro, religion has nothing to do in this case. She found a albanian chad with 8 inch dick
Nobody likes you Mujo, as you can see from this thread. Your tragedy consists in the fact that you accepted foreign religion and customs that are completely at odds with Euroepan ways of living. You accepting conquerors religion and customs and gradually identifying yourself as them makes you a literal Stockholm syndrom victim. Even though you’re racially European you don’t have that kinship that Europeans sense with one another even though they fought against each other for centuries. You don’t feel the common pride in fighting the non-European invaders that is deeply entranched in many european nations and used as mythos to their struggle and inspiration for current generations and generations to come. You don’t really have friends in other countries or at least someone that is symphatetic to you. Because of you losing your old traditions “making friends” with other countries is unlikely since you don’t have common things to share. This situation puts you in self perceived enemy surrounding countries who want to take “your territories”. And with no one too help you turn to “mother” Turkey, which only reaffirms your neigbours opinion on you as “non-Euroepan” Europeans or interlopers because of you siding with culturally backward, at odds with European customs and hated “enemy”. You’re a cuck Mujo, Bosnia shouldn’t exist and I pity your tragic existence.
Owen Williams
Secular Bosnian muslim girl here. I have ex bf's that have pakistani, somali and norwegian background, my current fiancee is norwegian and I have random fun with boys all over the world when I have been partying and travelling with my friends, but I would never let a serb touch me. Serbs are the most disgusting creatures alive, Serbian war criminals killed my uncle, his children and half my family
Isaac Hughes
10/10 could not have been said any better. Thank you based serb.
David Ward
No As a curiosity I want to tell you that today is her birthday
>feel more European than muslim then why dont you just renounce your religion? I'm not interested in religion, like my parents
>dude just, bro please go to serbian orthodox church and go back to your original faith before the ottomans came No, after these experiences i will not change my religion as soon
go away s*rb My family is secular. We were commie in SFRJ times
Now she is in relationship with serb ( all her friends are serbs )
Nathaniel Edwards
Being Bosniak is pretty sad when you think about it. All the Croats left, then you're left with Serbs who simultaneously think you're a Serb but also don't belong. Your only option is to move somewhere else where everyone still won't like you.
Daniel Murphy
>i'm muslim >i'm secular
>i'm mohammedian >i'm secular
>i self-designate as an anti-secular >i'm secular Uhuh, uhuh. I see all those tactics Muhammad wrote in the Quran about how and when to lie, and how to wage subterfuge and subversion, how to larp secularity, are paying off well.
Justin Rogers
>I'm secular >muslim memeflag
Jason Jones
You are using an islamic flag. You consider yourself muslim.
That's enough. Islam is a virus. It's a disease. Will you sleep with a chick who has siphylis just because it's in early stages and not so obvious?
Thomas Powell
>I'm not interested in religion You define yourself as muslim and have a muslim flag. You are therefore contradicting yourself.
Connor Phillips
This is what Islam does to people. It is a disease that must be eradicated.
Aiden Perry
Just renounce your religion. It was forced onto you by the Ottomans to avoid ficki ficki and paying Jizya tax. They stole your sons and made them janissaries. They stole your daughters to become sex slaves. The Turks are not your friends, they were your subjugators. You’re european, Islam is foreign to you.
Juan Hill
you and your serbshit neighbors will be tractored soon
Levi Murphy
You'll die out before we do Crorat. However a few seconds before you die, Bosniaks will first by some unexplained miracle.
stupid stupid motherfucker croatia is a shit hole a piece of shit on the earth. you are the scum of the shit you motherfucking dumb sticky ass licker piece of shit "croatian" you fucking backwards fake nation and people i want to spit on ur shit you fake evil and ego centric fucks
Kayden Jackson
>not even circumcised Do... do muslims circumcise? I didn't know that.
Ryder Gutierrez
>I'm Bosniak Bosnia does not exist only Croatia, sub human.
Leo Davis
>Serbian war criminals killed my uncle, his children and half my family The real crime was not finishing the job.
Jason Kelly
Whait, you just sad that you are a whore and that no serb ever touched you. Thank godnes lol.
What is common between a bosnian and a serbian? They both belong in a work camp!
Luis Cruz
You're ancestors already threw away their religion, you might as well just become either an atheist or a christian, change your muzzie name and become either a Serb or a Croat as opposed to that meme "Bosniak" identity, at least then you'll belong somewhere youtube.com/watch?v=v7xJpmwVX9g
Carter Campbell
I have question If I was not bosniac, I would be more Serb or Croat?
According to Jow Forums it's better to convert into Catholicism or Orthodox faith ? Yes, they are 80 - 90%
Jose Lewis
user pls to be explaining bosnia to an ignorant burger who was given typical burger education? >turkroach invasion >serbs remove kebab >roach nest forms in croatia >croatian roach nest eventually declares itself bosnia >??? >bosnia civil war >??? how far off am i?
Lucas Myers
>I'm not even circumcised Consider yourself lucky, you dodged a knive-raping
Adam King
Bosnians werent serb orthodox, they were catholic with a minority of bogumilists.
after ottomans invaded much of the catholics fled to croatia as refugees and the emptied land was given to the bogumilist converts to islam.
serbs came to bosnia as colonists during the ottoman period as well.
Carson Murphy
Personally I would suggest orthodoxy since Catholicism is as cucked as protestantism. Croatia is also more cucked than Serbia so it shows the difference even tho the people are almost the same. But it is not like you need to be religious per se. Just don't be a mountain muzzie
Lucas Ward
Look into what your ancestors were, there might be writing in churches (unless your faggot bosniaks burned them during the war) saying whether your ancestors were catholic or orthodox Whatever it might be, anything is better than the meme "bosniak" nationality and that shitty religion
Liam Rodriguez
You are a Serb. Go back to being one and get that girl back.
Evan Garcia
You dare call yourself secular and then choose the only of 3 branches of the Abrahamic Religion which is by definition anti-secular, by definition created for war and subversion, led by a well-documented warmonger prophet who isn't a myth and who is the authority defining Islam, and mixes politics and religion into an intrinsic mix more than even fucking Judaism.
If you want to be Secular then choose whatever the fuck isn't Muslim, down to Buddhism and Atheism. Calling yourself a "Secular Muslim" or a "Peaceful Muslim" is a god damn paradox, an oxymoron.
>Persian Invasions of Greece in BC start long-standing war between Middle East and Europe >Islam is birthed and spreads primarily through war and invasions into Asia and Africa >Turks adopt Islam >Turks continue the tradition of Middle East trying to invade and colonize and enslave Europe >Slavs come to Balkans >Serbs become willing serfs and protectorate under Byzantium >Bulgarians kind of go under Byzantium, but are always chimping out and trying to replace the Empire from day 1 >Cucktholic Europe is too busy waging wars among itself and not giving a fuck >Cucktholic Europe proclaims Orthodoxy to be heresy so now Orthodox have to deal with Catholic Europe trying to erase them and Turks trying to genocide them >Serbs lose the war against Turks because our entire army decided on a fine night to get drunk overnight, and Turks get an easy victory by taking advantage of our mental retardation >Serbia faces genocidal inquisition of Catholics, Bulgarians being such good brothers and trying to force us under their Empire, and Ottomans invading >Turks give the deal "we won't genocide you or rape you too much if you become protectorate" >Serbia goes under Turkey like the rest of the Balkans with the deal >Croatia gets 100 years under them with disagreement (worse consequences) >fast forward to Balkan League kicking Turks >Croatia is nowhere >Members of Balkan League are the only Kebab Removers
Henry Reyes
Can't be Muslim and secular forever. Sooner or later they'll force you to choose.
Bosnia was always a region of mixing Serb and Croat people, it was never an ethnicity. The only time Bosnia had a discerning characteristic to give it an independent personality from Croatia and Serbia was the introduction of Islam by Turks. So Bosnia as non-Croat and non-Serb entity can only be wholly defined by the presence of Islam. Kick the Islam out of the equation and it is either Croat, either Serb, or divided between both. You can safely consult the English wikipedia on it.
Zachary Taylor
you might not be religious but culturally you're still muslim its not only merely about religion or being religious anymore culture and identity was molded and shaped by religion
Oliver Price
Balija jedan kupi kilo slanine i pocasti joj babu pa ce sve biti dobro.
>Kick the Islam out of the equation and it is either Croat, either Serb, or divided between both nope like i said here its more than religion itself as religion has shaped culture and identity through time its more about culture and identity now
Jaxson Morales
Sorry to hear that man, it absolutely makes no sense that a serb (turkish rapebaby) doesn't want to date a bosniak (turkish rapebaby). She was probably seeing someone on the side.
and muslims in bosnia through time rarely mixed with christians thus creating their own gene pool so being muslim now is not only about being religious and belonging and being a part of a unique culture and having an identity of it's own but it is also about genetics too it has evolved, it is entering a new stage
Carter Wright
also since there is no yugoslavia or anything to keep it in check anymore bosnian-muslim culture flourishes and continues to develop rapidly
Andrew Green
god i wish my nation wasnt majority kebap
Brody Gray
>reko mi ortak da su najbolje kurve u sarajevu jel istina to
John Bell
delete yourself pls
Jaxson Martin
delete the turkish cock up your ass
Christian Rodriguez
Do Skanderbeg proud and start removing them then. Which are you, Orthodox South or Catholic North?
Hunter Brooks
Most Albanians I know drink/ smoke and just celebrate holidays, but aren't really dedicated muslims
Ethan Nelson
>The only time Bosnia had a discerning characteristic to give it an independent personality from Croatia and Serbia was the introduction of Islam by Turks. that's not true though. bosnia had a mostly distinct religious identity even before the turks came. the majority of medieval bosnians were followers of the church of bosnia, a heretical church denounced both by the serb orthodox and the catholic church (see the bosnian crusade). orthodoxy was mostly present in eastern bosnia and herzegovina (even though stjepan kosača was himself a follower of the church of bosnia) whereas catholicism became a factor in bosnia only with the latter kotromanić kings and after the introduction of franciscan communities (and in what is now bosnian krajina, but that region was never part of the medieval kingdom). the ethnic origin of bosnians is a far more complicated question though.
Asher Jones
>What is your worst experience connected with your nationality or religion? I'm an American, and since the 1960's the Jews have been trying to genocide my people.
Luis Thompson
i wish i could remove them, but blood comes before faith. i still love them. thankfully no muslim here takes islam seriously, most are muslim in name only. we tend to care much more about nationality.
Ayden Lopez
>Mohammedan in name only No such thing. Convert them or remove them. The only name worth having is any name that's not Muslim, of any religion that's not Islam. To hell with blood, we both have business to attend to, evicting both Islam and Commie remnants.
Brody Bailey
>I'm Bosniak, muslim, but secular >I'm not attending to mosque >I'm not even circumcised >I feel that i'm Yugoslavian, as nationality ( without any religion ) You are a turk though
Jonathan Moore
>the ethnic origin of bosnians is a far more complicated question though Not really,West is Croatians,East is Serbs.
>i am not circumcised Good, that is mutilation and it's immoral and it should be illegal. youtu.be/n_Ln4itFeDc
Cameron Stewart
>serbsihits have access to the sea every fucking "map"
enjoy your landlocked shithole you dumb orc
Oliver Gonzalez
Blood ain't worth shit if it pledges allegiance to Arabs. You are missing the longer road and bigger picture though. 4 billion people are starting the long-awaited vengeance against Islam. India, China, Buddhists, Georgians, Armenians, some Slavs, Christian black Africans, and finally massive rise of populism in Europe from what was basically 1% a few decade ago to 40% and rising, are all starting to pile upon Muslims. India, Buddhist South-East Asia, and China, are especially alarming. Myanmar is a good example which is only the starting spark. Islam is pretty much doomed long-term. So save yourselves by shedding the Islamic label for good, because the genocide waves against Islam are coming, starting with the East. West can't protect them anymore, and is less and less willing.
I'll take any syndicate over Muhammad. Syndicates are at least easy to deal with.
Elijah White
you're ignoring a thousand years of ethnic migrations
Carson Taylor
Oh,who migrated to Bosnia aside from more Serbs and Croats?
Owen Peterson
vlachs
Lincoln Cox
>allegiance to arabs bullshit. i have yet to see a single albanian that thinka positively of them, or any of the middle east really.
Julian White
>Islam is pretty much doomed long-term >Islam is the only religion not going through a major wave of secularism
Islam is the only religion that will not be majority secular in the next century, while all denominations of Christianity will not even be shells of their dormer selves. Like Paganism, even Christ will join the pantheon of dead Gods in the long run.
>blood always comes before faith YES this its not a question of religion, its a question of blood bosnian-muslims don't pledge allegiance to anyone but their own blood and to their home country and living space which is only where that blood can be preserved
Ryder Butler
sad projection you have no nation or history
Ryder Miller
So Bosnians are Vlachs?Why do they speak Slavic instead of a Latin language than? "Vlach" is also just what Balkan Slavs call Balkan natives,rather than migrating they have been present in the Balkans before Croats or Serbs in Bosnia.
Jaxson Green
>bullshit How's it bullshit if you literally call yourself a follower of Muhammad and therefore an Arab Slave/Follower? Islam is Muhammad and Muhammad is Islam. It takes mental retardation to engage in the paradox of both being a self-identified follower of Muhammad and then saying "but not really!". This is why nobody takes Muslims seriously anymore.
>Islam is the only religion not going through a major wave of secularism Islam can't go through secularism by design as Muhammad wills it and writes it in the Quran, which is why it's starting to be genocided now by 4 billion people who were waiting for the last century for the Westerners to weaken and destabilize enough because the West was the only saving grace of Islam.
Logan Thomas
>bosnian-muslims don't pledge allegiance to anyone but Muhammad, ergo calling yourself Muslim.
Ayden Wright
Croatian clay Go to Turkey
Asher Bell
there is a difference between calling yourself a muslim and being a muslim. but faith is the least of our worries, unless we start getting our shit together we are about to get fucking exterminated.
Matthew Moore
Why are the christcucks the only religious group in the world to welcome savage foreigners from God know where they from?
>there is a difference between calling yourself a muslim and being a muslim. There isn't. In both cases you are pledging yourself to Muhammad, because Muhammad is the only and core difference between Islam, and Christianity/Judaism. Without Muhammad the very label doesn't exist. So you are calling yourself a follower of a warmongering prophet who waged over 50 campaigns of aggressive war, expansionism, and colonialism upon what now amounts to over 4 billion non-Western people in the world, who enslaved people of all races, who fucked a prepubescent, and who combined politics and religion and corrupted Bahira's teachings to create Islam. There's no confusion to be had about this, nor is there any confusion to be had about people calling themselves Muslims. If you are not a follower of Muhammad, then you are not a Muslim, search another label.
Chase Davis
>In both cases you are pledging yourself to Muhammad. there is a difference between saying you follow muhammad and following muhammad. i dont think yoy understand what im trying to say. yes, islam a shit, but theres a big difference between a muslim in the middle east and an albanian muslim
Carter Evans
>Many of these settlers were Vlachs, members of a nomadic pre-Slav Balkan population that had acquired a Latinate language and specialized in stock breeding, horse raising, long-distance trade, and fighting. >With time most of the Vlach population adopted a Serb identity.[119][120][121] it is not completely clear but it is assumed that vlachs came from the area of present-day border region of bulgaria and romania
Brayden Martinez
Islam can't go through secularism by design because it's a warrior religion that above all else values that might is right. It's an eastern religion par excellence due to the fact the lead figure reaches enlightment while still alive. In western religions only through death does the lead figure reach enlightenment, which is the current sentiment leading to the dwindling demographics. Westerners see fulfilment of their prophecy in death while easterners see fulfilment of their prophecy by surviving. In the long run you are doomed to fail only because you're set up to fail since the beginning.
Aaron Mitchell
If that is the case,than that migration would count as "more Serbs",since they would adapt Serbian identity they would not affect Bosnian people(LARPING Croats and Serbs).
Blake Anderson
>there is a difference between saying you follow muhammad and following muhammad. There isn't when in either case you are openly stating that you accept and approve of the man and deeds and his history, making the inherent danger and making the entire shit about secularism and peace a paradoxal self-defeating meme. Nobody buys this shit except dumb Westerners who have never opened the Quran, never opened the Hadith, and never lived next to or under Muslims for between 400 and 1400 years.
At least we have someone intellectually honest here. We shall see how it goes. 4 billion vs 1.8 billion is a tough one for Islam, and this equation excludes white Westerners and also Latinos who are going Crusader-mad in their own retarded way as of late.
You mean to honestly tell me that all religions and anti-religions will unite together despite their fundamentally different outlooks on life and enlightenment to defeat the big bad boogeyman Islam?
>Yugoslavian this was a dead in the water idea from the start. everyone rejected this ethnicity when karađorđević tried to impose it during his rule and tito killed it even more by making up a shit ton of new ethnicities to bolster his idea of brother and unity and prevent any group from becoming dominant. the only feasible way forward is to either integrate into other nationalities or try to build on the idea of a secular bosniak nation without attempting to impose it on serbs and croats living in bosnia. there's some strong backing for the hypothesis that immigrating vlachs integrated into a slavic identity and muslim religion. there was an extensive study published years ago by a sarajevan university professor on all the census data from the ottoman period in which he found strong indications backing this idea, but i can't seem to find it anywhere right now. regardless of how true it is, my point is that there was a ton of ethnic migrations and mixing during the last thousand years in bosnia (serbs, croats, turks, arabs, vlachs and even hungarians in the post great turkish war period) that's it really hard to pinpoint a single ethnic origin for the inhabitans so the issue should be scrapped altogether and national identity should be based on something other than a dna analysis.
Juan Perry
Are you a brainlet? I already showed you in Serbs and Croats inhabited Bosnia before "Bosnians" even existed,and that is of course before the Vlach migrations,so calling all Bosnian Serbs Vlachs like the mong in your video is absolutely incorrect. He also says "rumuni-cigani",so he is uneducated enough to not know the difference between Romanians and Roma people. In fact try using your brain,if Serbs did not inhabit Bosnia before those Vlachs migrated and took up Serb identity,who the fuck Serbinized them?The Croats lmao?No,obviously the Serbs who already lived there.
Jose Morales
Fair,i only have problem with Bosnians who straight up deny their Serb and Croatian roots,and not because i want Bosnian to be Serbs,but because to logically do so you must falsify and deny Serb and Croat history in the area.Like for example who claims that Bosnian Serbs are all Vlachs,despite Serbs inhabiting the area before Bosnia really kicked off.
Matthew Lewis
quick question, what prevents bulgarians from being identified as yugoslavs? yugo means southern and bulgarians are slav. you cant say language because macedonians speak bulgarian and they are yugoslavs. would you say bulgarians are also yugoslavs, theoretically?
Nathan Scott
>bosnian-muslims don't pledge allegiance to anyone but their own blood and to their home country and living space which is only where that blood can be preserved Čujte bando islamska muđahedini stiči če vas naša ruka i u Ankari.mp3
>holy shit you're braindead. I'm not, you are, or at least anyone deceived by your dumbshittery. The only reason to call yourself Muslim is to differentiate yourself from the other 2 Abrahamic branches. The only difference is Muhammad. Muhammad comes with a specific history, creed, and bio, which you've called yourself upon by labeling yourself Muslim. The only reason to keep calling yourself Muslim is the hope that Islam from South and South-East will come into the region again and spare your descendants for continuing to pledge yourself to Muhammad's cock. Muhammad also states clearly in the Quran, how and when Muslims are allowed to lie or not abide by his creeds if it preserves their continued operation in a region where they are the weakest power. This is why nobody takes your dogshit mental gymnastic meandering as anything less than bullshit. Muhammad has you by the balls on that part.
>You mean to honestly tell me that all religions and anti-religions will unite together despite their fundamentally different Already are jimbo. Islam is so fucking dogshit and hated that differences are being put aside temporarily just to genocide Muslims all over. Why? Because now countries are aware of each other and their mutual hatred of Islam, as opposed to when they had to deal with an Islamic zerg-rush almost alone throughout history. Islam has made itself a priority problem in the eyes of all people.