Ok natsocs. it’s your time to shine

>individual determinism
humans are children in need of guidance until they reach adulthood

North Korea is the complete opposite and look at how much of a shithole it is

No advances since the nazis where talking out. Just random hope. We are still using the same rocket designs.

they got the wrong guidance

>nazis were right

Maybe elements of their ideaology. But why would I want to live under an authoritarian regime? Why sacrifice my own self for a bunch of other people?

>no major advances

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Because its run by nonwhites and much of the evils yo hear about it are false lies spread by the jews.

based canada

>Why should I sacrifice individual determinism for nationalism?

Just get out of your basement and see what individual determinism did to this world

Well what are they. Current tech was propelled by the nazis.

Yeah it’s just terrible!

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It's not like almost everything looks good from the distance...

gtfo jew

Genome sequencing

Internet, the PC you are using, medicine, antibiotics, genetics, modern media, modern forms of communication...

Started from eugenics

It's not about you sacrificing your self; It's about making all the average, retarded masses have less freedom. Anyone of decent intelligence will wind up with a decent degree of autonomy.

very terrible

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>thinks Vegas is shit, and that I’m a Jew

Says the Kiked german

It's not about the authoritarian government. It's about the value. Natsoc can be libertarian and you will oppose it , if you disagree with the value.

You think the nazis invented eugenics? Your retardation is actually amusing desu

>Posts the most degenerated place in the world as an example

gtfo jew

>Why sacrifice my own self for a bunch of other people?
To further your own race and to connect with those of your race while discovering how you truly fit in, with an overarching racial goal. To conquer the globe in a perpetual state of war against shitskins until the world is dominated. To create through eugenics the best looking, smartest, most willful, genetically superior individuals the world has ever seen. To not fall into the trap of hedonism for the sake of individuality, but for the sake of the male dominance/submission aspect of collective society. Truly Nietzschean ecstasy.

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>”degeneracy”

Go to Saudi Arabia then

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nazi germany pretty much was a free state
individuals were regarded as important and everyone could do what they wanted as long as it didn't cause direct harm to other citizens or the state
...at least that's how it was until everyone declared war on us

Americans did but the nazis elaborated on it

You already live in an authoritarian (cia niggers) socialist state (brown gib), you are just not ripping the benefits while still paying the cost

they big buildings owned by few and lights don't let you see the gambling, prostitution, few riches, lots of poor, infidelity, crime, etc.

we already live under an authoritarian government idiot.

you have to:
bake gay cakes
have to call trannies by their pronouns
guns being taken away because "white are nazis"
can't self-segregate from minorities
state-mandatory LGBTQ books in schools
government officials won't even allow a wall to be built to protect its citizens

i could go on

>To further your own race and to connect with those of your race while discovering how you truly fit in, with an overarching racial goal. To conquer the globe in a perpetual state of war against shitskins

KEK, this is the exact reason why Americans will never, ever be able to understand National Socialism - ideology created by Germans, for Germans.

Hitler didn't plan to start the war on "shitskins" or connect with "his own race". Or rather, he did, but he only saw Germanics/Nordics as his fellow race - all the others (Meds, Slavs, Hungarians etc.) were just slaves/tools in his eyes. Created to serve the "Master Race", or die if they dare to oppose it.

Americans base their identity on race, while Europeans base their identity on nationality and common language. So my question is - I get your hatred against niggers and Spics (whom, by the way, you literally brought on yourselves via slavery and annexation of Mexico), but why won't you just try to create something new and more compatibile with your mentality than hanging on Auatrian painters autistic vision?

Even they have more morals

>Truly Nietzschean ecstasy
You kinda described 1984 ideology fat fucking amerifaggot scum

Nothing is going to happen. No revoolution is going to happen from some chan users.

SO YOU DONT GO EXTINCT HAVING LIVED YOUR LAST YEARS RULED BY WHORES GOING EXTINCT BECAUSE OF WHORE IDIOT WEAKNESSES

A reminder that the original Europeans don't exist anymore.

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The individual depends on the collective.

>Why would I want to live under an authoritarian government?

>babby doesnt know

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>We already live under aurhoritarian government
>So instead of overthrowing it, let's replace it with another!

Brilliant reasoning, user.

>Hitler didn't plan to start the war on "shitskins" or connect with "his own race"
Germans, the English, the Dutch, and Scandinavians are all Germanic. You're talking out of your fucking ass. KYS Polenigger

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Keep in mind, National Socialism is the only form of authoritarian government worth living under, not this Marxist “utopia” liberals go on and on about.

Imagine a government that was centered around doing what was best for its citizens.

> Strong family units
> homogeneity protected
> Christianity supported
> protection from the banks, big businesses, etc.
> support for widows and the poor through socialize opportunities (not traditional welfare as we’ve seen for the past 70 years)
> Etc.

Sounds pretty nice, right? Well that’s what was has in Germany during WW2.

Emanating jewishness

Flashy lights, me like. Determinism good.

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Aren't there poor living in the sewers of Vegas?

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There were more than a couple american eugenicists at the time who were less than impressed with the Nazi eugenics program, compared to the american one.

>create your own shit

That’s a good point. We probably should. But we don’t have a national identity per se. The only way it would ever work in America is if we included all whites. We don’t have the ability to omit certain nationalities of whites. It would have to include Slavs, Italians, Germans, anglos. Otherwise we would never have the cooperation necessary to combat the shitskins and kikes

>Didn't even finish reading my post
When memes about Americans are not memes at all.

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>Listening to a Turkroach

>Germans, the English, the Dutch, and Scandinavians are all Germanic.
>being this retarded

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In order to truly be free, others will faulter. That’s the way it goes. They had a chance. The same as everybody else. But they were inferior. Now they live in the sewers doing crack

It's not supposed to be about authoritarianism. Just racial preservation. I don't know where people keep getting the idea that you have to be advocating for some crazy 1984 type Big Brother, anti-liberty government when you say you want to protect yourself and your people from malevolent foreigners.

What's your definition of a free state? A land where you aren't allowed to own guns because they are scary? A land where 9-year-old children can be put on hormones, wear drag, and dance for money in front of a large crowed of flamboyantly homosexual men-- and your livelihood and reputation will be destroyed if you dare protest? A land that actively sabotages you and your people in order to redistribute your wealth to foreigners, increase their population at your expense, and increase their quality of life over yours?

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Pewdiepie: nothing wrong about him
Scarlett Johansson: she's jewish
Bjork: she's part eskimo
Greta Thunberg: she has Asperger syndrome

First off, everything you just said is D&C and bears no productive contribution to the conversation. Secondly, even if we consider your point, NS doesn't have to only apply one itsy bitsy group, but rather it can apply to a larger one as long as its within the same race. Secondly, Americans have been homogenized into an almost new 'white race where we ALL have some German, English, French etc... and we all speak one language; English.

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>until everyone declared war on us

Oh yeah, like that one time when you annexed Austria and Czechoslovakia, or that one time when you invaded Poland. Poor, innocent Germany.

xD

All governments are authoritarian, it all depends on what a given one is authoritaran about. I'd rather live in one which is authoritarian about the welfare of my people than one that is authoritarian about what pronouns are to be used to refer to the mentally ill.

>ib4 libertarianism
Not a single stable example in world history.

As an aside, I looked it up. Something like a few thousand people live in the flood tunnels. Thousand of people out there on the streets, and here we are listening to politicians talk shit about welcoming refugees.

>Why would I want to live under an authoritarian government?
You already do, so it may as well serve the benefits of the nation than a moneyed few
>Why should I sacrifice individual determinism for nationalism?
The self and the community exist in harmony with each other, not in opposition

I'd rather have concern for my fellow citizens then give up my taxes to the filth of the third world. They deserve lead, not Medicare.

Libertarianism only works on a household to household basis

Because you are boring and weak with small ambitions and small dreams. As an individual you will achieve nothing of any value, and being a part of something bigger and better is your only path to glory, however small a share you get.

American nationalism is just civic nationalism, right?

I did make something new. I modernized Nietzsche's philosophy. All that matters is the propagation of blonde hair, blue eyes, musculature, big penis, height, etc., using agronomy to fulfill this goal. You set up propaganda the way the Germans did by propping up these masculine white features, and you btfo every other race, and white women won't even into niggers for a hard fucking.

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>Imagine a government that was centered around doing what was best for its citizens.
>> Strong family units
>> homogeneity protected
>> Christianity supported
>> protection from the banks, big businesses, etc.
>> support for widows and the poor through socialize opportunities (not traditional welfare as we’ve seen for the past 70 years)
>> Etc.
>Sounds pretty nice, right? Well that’s what was has in Germany during WW2.
Lol the west if fucked if this is really how zoomers see natsoc. Your like every other left-wing retard begging to have the almighty government rule over you taking away your freedoms in the name of furthering the nation. Face it your a lazy cuck that is too afraid to go work and build something with his freedom and would prefer some politician telling him how to live his life. If your actually a burger you have no idea how lucky you are compared to the rest of the planet. You have more freedom then the other 90% of the world

Because those with strong national identity will conquer those who don't.

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Its not authoritarian, authoritarian is when people unlike you force rules and regulations upon you that don't fit you. If everyone is ethnically nordic, there is barely a need for laws and regulations because everyone is law abiding and makes the right choice without coersion.

Why do we need order? Why can't we just do what a fascist government would do (removing minorities, creating an ethnostate) but in an anarchic society?

All governments are technically authoritarian in their own right, but consider this: would you rather live under a government that's authoritative in directing your life onto a path that turns you into a hard working man who is proud of their country, or would you rather live under a government that's authoritative about stopping people's feelings from being hurt on the internet? Further more, would you rather live in a community filled with like minded individuals that speak the same language, look like you, and have the same behavioral patterns, or would you rather live in a community divided up into several social classes and ethnic territories where no one trusts each other?

>First off, everything you just said is D&C and bears no productive contribution to the conversation
Oh yeah, because stating the obvious fact that Europeans don't share your retarded mentality of "white unity", and neither did Hitler, is clearly D&C, not a fact.

>NS doesn't have to only apply one itsy bitsy group, but rather it can apply to a larger one as long as its within the same race
Of course, but by doing this, you are already altering the ideology and creating something new. As I said earlier - when Adolf Hitler created his ideology, he created it in specific time period, in specific conditions. To be more precise: it was ideology born by German butthurt, after losing WW1. As such, it incorporates many already existing German memes - many of which aren't really compatibile with American way of thinking, on so many levels.

>Secondly, Americans have been homogenized into an almost new 'white race where we ALL have some German, English, French etc... and we all speak one language; English
That's my exact point. You all speak the same language, so you identify yourselves on the basis of your skin color. Europeans, on the other hand, identity themselves on the basis of their language, and don't care that much about skin color. That's why Hitler consideres Slavs as different race, for example, despite of them being technically "white".

Only post 1965

>I did make something new. I modernized Nietzsche's philosophy. All that matters is the propagation of blonde hair, blue eyes, musculature, big penis, height, etc., using agronomy to fulfill this goal.
That's quite alright, but in that case, it has little to do with National Socialism.

>why would i want to live in a society that DOESNT treat me like goyim cattle and ruins my life at every oppertunity
under natsoc there wouldnt be as much incel mutts such as yourselves therefore no school shootings

Who said Nazi Germany was such a nice place? Their fucking propaganda department? If you're an authoritarian, left or right, you are the epitome of cuckery. You are basically allowing yourself to be run over by the government and another man because ">muh degeneracy!!1!"
i am aware that the jews run the world but honestly, even an anarchist society could go out and purge the rothschilds or whoever else. You don't need to be authoritarian for things to happen, cuck.

Kys, if you are ready to betray your own people, your own blood, culture & nation just for the sake of more money and the ability to buy more useless products. With each passing day I am beginning to think that people in the New world are more materialistic even than the commies and don't deserve to live. PS I suppose most Canadians are LGBT freaks and that's the reason why your slut wifes like to fuck with subhumans (cause at least they are a little bit masculine, even if they are poor).

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you don't live in a free state

Nice

What you degenerates call a free society always leads to degeneracy and the downfall of nations, because ultimately the masses are retarded and are easily manipulated by demagogues and (((merchants))). Hierarchy is the basis of society and civilisation. Order will always prevail against Chaos.

>bankers need to be strung up on lampposts
>free trade is a pipe dream from a jewish ideology
>open borders are bad for obvious reasons
>racemixing is bad for obvious reasons
>corporations tend toward free trade, open borders, monopoly, and other poz for obvious reasons, thus they need to be regulated
>most people are too dumb or irrational to make economically/politically sound decisions
honestly I don't even see what can be disputed here. though natsoc today is basically reactionary, so in terms of positive beliefs I think most people fill in the blanks with their brainwashing and that's where it gets the hysterical "NOO IT'S TOTALITARIAN WHAT ABOUT MUH INDIVIDUALISM" treatment. the US at the time was arguably more conservative than the nazis since they made no racial ideology concessions for asians and reasonable people wouldn't consider 1940s USA to be totalitarian or dystopian or some shit. also I think goebbels and other actual natsocs wrote at length about how individualistic enjoyment and expression is a necessary part of life, but that doesn't mean absolutely anything goes.

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Literally everything will be flavored with delicious white semen

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>but in an anarchic society?
Not enough law enforcement and again... too much cancerous individualism. You would have no basis for morality and no loyalty to a race.
No, but it's a modernized version of NatSoc. The people weren't looking at big cocks in internet porn every day - hypergamy wasn't as bad - and nudity on the internet brings something new to contend with. It's the ultimate male competition, and white beta males are scrambling to figure out how they fit in by taking T-injections, leg lengthening surgeries, penis enlargement surgery, etc. It's a big artificial individualistic race to become the most alpha, and is rather pathetic. These males harbor submissive feelings, and when they feel them, they react to them with violence. You have to make the beta males become collective once again, and give up on dreams they can never achieve as they are a victim of genetics. They can still read hero fantasy novels, but they had better not truly believe they can fake alpha behavior - they will feel submissive and lash out because of this individualistic society.

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In modernity of the west, we’ve seen the reoccurrence of how empires fall. The Hindus has a wonderful concept we’ve come to love and enjoy, the Kali Yuga.
Our empire, I.e currently the American one, formerly the romans, or the British, or farther back Ancient India and Egypt, along with others, arguably Mesopotamia but I can’t verify hat last one. In this current empire, as all past ones, the people have become too accustomed to peace and have never had the struggle of life or death for entire generations. Without this primal instinct of expecting possible death (war and other societal tribulations for this context), we as a people become husks. Shells we are free to use and abuse in gluttony and overarching control over our primal habits turned addictions, such as fornification, pornography, lust - all central in the deconstruction of the typical family unit that used to be the standard. The ease of young men letting life slip by in drug abuse and addiction to all vices peddled by the opportunistic merchants. Your individualism has lead to a lack of care for the other people around us, as they are individuals in charge of their own destiny too, right? Once we stop understanding and caring about the average American/German/Brit, etc., we stop understanding or caring about our surroundings. Why is a man in Vermont in the 21st century going to care of California outlaws the second amendment these days? Our since of federalism has been a weakness in so many ways, as the American rejection of centralized government of what used to be a legitimate monarchy, our divide as a people, specifically Americans were founded off of rejection of an authoritarian figure. Now, this is not to shrug off legitimate independence as we must support a people’s real sense of determination.

We have only 2 options.
1. We allow whites to become minuscule in population and expect extinction either through being fully breed out of existence just as the Egyptians and Indians did. Or 2. We become savage in a manner that is calculated and while at a great cost of post-modern/post-industrial “morals” and “rights”.
If you follow the ultimate laws, you will know they can not be found written down on any constitution, but in nature’s actions and reactions. No living or no living thing has any right to do anything in the wild. There is only those who hold power and those who are subjugated by them. The sheep does not have a right to life. The lion does not have a right to eat.

Order is a human need. Authority provides beauty, community, and survival of your race. It is a good thing to prevent people from doing bad things. You'd seriously let your race die so you can smoke weed and sell drugs?

>NS is reactionary
Wrong, it's forward thinking into the future. That's why Hitler, although was friendly with, wasn't the fondest of parties like the NDP and Der Stahlhelm who wanted to put the Kaiser back in power

Continued tribal existence is far superior to a (((hyper individualist))), degenerate and dysgenic interpretation of freedom.

When people say they want "freedom," they're talking about degenerate art, porn, weed, wearing a stupid beanie and skinny jeans, being sooo cool and individualistic, I have such a unique personality I love science and I watch the office, I like weed and casual sex. We tore down society so people could be boring, "free" npcs listening to whatever the media and snapchat tells them to do.

It's more like a passive form of authoritarianism. the point is to stop ignoring differences among humans. national socialism was revolutionary because it respected humans' will to work for a common interest. heterogeneity is the essence of nature. today's "democracy" and "socialism" have the opposing effect as what is expected because they ignore nature. non-nationalism is unsustainable and only leads to another societal collapse

> he thinks he has individual determinism
Lurk for two years, no you don't. You live in an authoritarian surveillance state that professes to provide individual determinism, but doesn't act on it.

True happiness, in the end, doesn't factor in 'freedom'. The only things that matter, are whether you do things that are good for you, or do things that are bad for you. And things like undergoing expensive cosmetic surgery, catching deadly diseases that cause you to require weekly treatment to just instantly die off in hedonistic orgies, working your ass off only for the government to redistribute the fruits of your labour to people who hate you and demand their handout, feeding you poison through obfuscated, many-hands food products laced with a whole array of untested synthetic substances, not having a wife and not producing and raising children, all those things are bad for you in the long run.
Whereas working hard in an efficient system that forcibly restructures itself on the regular to work like a well-oiled machine, having society guided with an iron hand to supply every worker with the happiness of family and father hood, mandatory checks and encouragements to work out and keep healthy, supplying you with clean food from mean-and-lean production, those are things that are good for you.

Corporate capitalism under Jewish leadership is what we live in today, and which imposes the former. National socialism is the idea of an alternative. Instead of a pseudo-monarchical oligarchy under Jewish leadership (capitalism), or an authoritarian state under Jewish leadership (communism), why not identify the common denominator behind both and establish a third system that doesn't share it? A strong system with no room for subversion due to its uncompromising and authoritarian structure, and with an intention to make the system work for everyone. (everyone who has good intentions/is of your race of course)

You can get off your high horse because none of those inventions were by the meme rag you have on or any nation that followed the same shitty ideology

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>What you degenerates call a free society always leads to degeneracy and the downfall of nations, because ultimately the masses are retarded and are easily manipulated by demagogues and (((merchants))).

Wrong.

All of you seem to be forgetting what's the root of degeneracy, and what was keeping societies in order before Austrian painter was born - religion. It is religion that dictated social boundries, prevented families from breaking up, women from being sluts, etc. USA in 50s was a pinnacle of mankind, and it was also a pinnacle of personal freedom.

Where did it all go wrong?

Cultural revolution and cultural marxism in 70s - funded directly by USSR, in order to weaken US. So calles "useful idiots". Unfortunately, that spiral of madness didn't stop, and consumed the west. And what did cultural marxism target first? Religion, and traditional values uphold by it. So that root of evil wasn't individual freedom - it was a cold execution of a plan.