What if they actually built this landship?
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Good target for bombers
it would have gone down like the Yamato of tanks, once spotted it would have soon had a swarm of aircraft bombing and strafing the shit out of it, pretty cool to imagine
They could have
They will !
Would have been bombed, it’s pretty cool, but honestly not practical.
It would be taken out in its first battle by aircraft or artillery
Easy pickings for aircraft
retarded like everything else german
Impractical
it would sink, and then be destroyed by air strikes.
ok so its well protected by lots of support elements.
that's fine now you are putting a shit tone of units in one area to protect it instead of doing there regular job.
Huh Sweden did you say something ?
Huge weapons are good targets for bombs and are wildly inefficient.
its only use would be on the open steppes of Russia with uncontested german air superiority. Just a small bomber group would blow the thing to hell
germany and nazis were great at starting wars but could never follow through
Isn’t there a narrow margin on the length : width ratio of caterpillar tracks making virtually all fantasy tank designs unworkable?
I feel like the Russians could find an excuse to build one of these today. That would be awesome
have you seen the thing that moved the space shuttle?
this thing
god imagine if the nazis won and unlocked the jewish shackles on humanity. we would be colonizing the moons of jupiter and saturn by now
It'd need an equivalent sized engineering and recovery vehicle, especially after getting stuck the first time in loose ground.
>dual cannons
>gets stuck in slav mud
>slavs turn it into something cooler
>lose the war faster cause you wasted so much time building this retarded piece of shit
ez pz
"Follow through"
Do you even read what you type ?
This is actually to stupid for me
Brevik was the only god thing that your County produced
the biggest redpill is realising this was meant for 0.7g
It would sink into the muddy ground and be a huge waste of money.
Jewz. Bwah
what?
its a moon Tank.
Secret Nazi moon base confirmed
ohh that king of g, got ya.
Mammoth Tanks are kino
It's amazing for creepshots
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How would they move it from the (bombed out ) factories to the battlefield?
In pieces?
Gonna need a metric fuck-ton of logistics to make that wet dream happen, broham.
Which, y'know, they didn't have.
World of Tanks needs this and OP’s tank too.
It would've been even more of a waste than the Maus which was more of a waste than the King Tiger which was more of a waste than the Tiger.
If it was built it would get stuck somewhere, be unable to cross a bridge, break down, or have one of the million other issues that already happened with the Tiger. It would be nigh impossible to support because any terrain it crosses would be destroyed.
If it actually made it into combat it would basically be useless. With 2.5 shells per minute on a large battleship at best it would have half of that. Actually aiming the thing would be impossible so it would essentially be a direct fire artillery.
For defense it would basically have none. Bombers can still hit ships with their very heavy AA in a formation. Good luck trying to level bomb or strafe it but a single dive bomber that gets through the AA would rape it with a gravity launched bomb straight through the weak top armor.
basically it's as impracticable as a battleship.
waste of time and resources,
fucker would be a bigass target for everything and would get stuck every 6 meters.
Does it go cross country?
It requires a specially prepared gravel road to drive on. Otherwise it would sink into the ground.
no, it has a very specific path it has to move along. I wasn't saying it works in a practical manner, just that it works.
this
I was just saying its not a mechanical problem.
It'd sink into the first soft earth it encountered, and become impossible to extricate.
i much rather have a mech.
It would have been a target for every bomber and wouldn't have made it very far.
Same problem with the big battleship.
Explosives to tear shit up were cheaper than the fuel to move that thing out of the way.
Auf der Heide blüht ein kleines Blümelein! *boom* *boom* *boom*!
It would have broken down and gotten stuck in a river then abandoned
unless that is their regular job.
What is an aircraft carrier?
The maus was not only kino but a ambulant pillbox with a cannon
you don't have unlimited units. you would have a massive number of people protecting this thing instead of coving multiple kilometers of front.
you would need support tanks, and mobile AA batteries spread out over a kilometers. patrols, fule trucks, men, and be in range of friendly air bases at all time. all for what?
can you only sink in water?
This, the german over-engineered their armor, a Maus is the equivalent of 100 Pz. IV ausf G-J, waste of ressource and time, all because of Hitler's obssession with the german uber-tank
Instead we have mutts worshipping Jews and Europe suiciding on niggers and Muslims; and still they say muuuuh good guys won... Brain-dead
Considering it would have bogged down the minute it left heavily reinforced concrete roadways, it would have been a pretty easy target.
Oh oh, Vril society? Aldebaran
Oh gustav. So beautiful. They built you and a multitrack railway to crimea just to blow up a giant soviet bunker facility.
I was referring more to your nonsensical argument about protection of a massive weapons platform would be taking away technicals and other weapons from their other duties. You understand the comparison now when I was more specific?
What? No lover the the badger 288? Germans made that, and it eats bulldozers.
that's a navel task force, its safer to keep them together for mutual protection. if you bunch up all your ground assets around a slow moving turd you will just get surrounded and bombed.
It would be a large target for artillery and airstrikes. The Russians had the right idea. Build tanks that were effective enough, reliable enough and could be mass produced easily enough.
Im not him, but I agree with you they were terrible about resource allocation towards the end. I think it was a massive gamble in an attempt to find a silver bullet instead of the more practical "lots of lead bullets" instead.
I think that is more a reflection of the differences in the inherited mentality of the germans vs the soviets. I dont think it would have been possible to avoid.
They had different resources. The red army was about 30 million souls by 1945, the german army, and all its allies, about 5 million, on more divided fronts.
The germans by necessity had to err on the side of quality. Tigers and panthers had higher killcounts, about 1500 hours of runtime before major overhaul, and a much longer and larger survival rate in combat.
The t34 had about 14 hours of combat life, and a range of 40 miles or so as I recall before major overhaul. But the soviets had a massive labor advantage, both in troops and manufacturing workers.
>breivik
>sweden
14 hours....
This. Would be a great target for a dive bomber
That is the level of commie hatred I can really relate to.
at 2mph.. sure, totally a weapon of war
read the tread dumbass.
You need to build these to fit amerimutt drivers
>What if they actually built this landship?
They did build the Jagdtiger.
"The result was the monstrous Jagdtiger (“Hunting Tiger”)...heavier than modern Leopard 2 tanks!
During World War II, German's built turretless assault guns (Sturmgeschutz) and tank destroyers (Jagdpanzers) based on each major tank chassis. Though the lack of a turret made them less capable in offensive operations, they were cheaper to build, could carry heavier guns and armor, and remained highly effective at ambushing enemy tanks or providing fire support...
Theoretically capable of going twenty-one miles per hour, the “moving bunker” was reduced to nine miles per hour cross-country, (with a max)range(of)seventy-five miles. The motor...broke down with alarming frequency.
The 128-millimeter Pak 44 gun had only ten degrees traverse to either side. Its sixty-pound shells traveled at 950 meters a second, with a range of up to fifteen miles if fired indirectly. The 40 rounds of two-piece ammunition had to be assembled by two loaders before each shot, and the gun had to be leveled to evacuate the breech. ..Tiger ace Otto Carius was not thrilled with this (super weapon)
“Any large traversing of the cannon had to be effected by movement of the entire vehicle. Because of that, transmissions and steering differentials were soon out of order. . . . A better idea for the travel lock of the eight-meter long cannon of our ‘Hunting Tiger’ was also necessary. It had to be removed from outside during contact with the enemy. Locking down the barrel during a road march was necessary, of course. Otherwise the mountain brackets would have been worn out too quickly and exact aiming would have been impossible. . . . We discovered that the cannon, because of its enormous length, was battered about so much as a result of even a short move off the road that its alignment no longer agreed with that of the optics"
>It would be taken out in its first battle by aircraft or artillery
Nope. Like the Elefant during Kursk, it would be left behind by the by the PzKW's, Panthers, Tigers and Sturmgeshultz during an assault or throw its treads/blow out a trans-axel repositioning itself during a defensive op.
Imagine if they would have not built such a stupid gun and built strategic bombers instead.
Wed all be speaking german
goodbye any roads you drove it on.
Far better to build 1000 APCs with auto cannons instead of this slow moving arty magnet.
You still lost. Run along now and fuck off
Ww1 and hell even the Franco Prussian war shit all over ww2.
this, Hitler severely underestimated air superiority
>Soviets hide 20 105mm HE howitzers in the bushes
>Use HE or HEAT rounds to smash the tracks apart
>~20 people dead and some cheap guns to take down a weapon that cost at least 20x more
go prep the bull sven
It would have been stuck to it's factory ground.
The Maus, which was 2 order of magnitude lighter, was already impossible to move on any bridge, and had to be equipped to cross rivers like a mini-submarine instead.
The Rattle is on a scale where you need to make geological check before moving anywhere, because it can collapse underground caves/rivers/aquifers really easily.
Even without the "muh bombing target" problem, it's just unusable.
Impractical but cool. Pretty much applies to all landships. Check out the one Russia tried out. which was three T34's tied together (I could be wrong on the tank) But it sported a naval battery, One got stuck, one fired the main guns and knocked itself over. Not sure what happened to the third. Ultimately they wrote it off. Shame we will never have Mammoth tanks though.
At Vandenberg they moved the building instead of the rocket.
the same people that made the maus and drew plans for the ratte also made this
germans don't change they just change occupations
Would have better if Germany went for nuclear weapons than this sack of shit.
It would have boosted German morale late in the war, possibly pushing back the Allies Western advance, don't know about the east though. Slavic were cimping out.
Fuck Uber tanks, Germany should have went for nukes
they were going for nukes but the departments developing said nukes would never share resources or research data setting them back years
Earth was mined by machines like that, but much larger, in our past. They are the origin of the dinosaur legends.
Kek
The Nazis were to stupid to get the gasoline to run it. They should have used the mettle to build cool trinkets to sell to their new Soviet masters who could send them home to their kids.
Modern Germans have the bucket wheel excavator. Imagine what other mega engineering projects the NatSocs would've completed.
See? You don't even have that! Just shitty furniture!
wait is this true can anyone confirm?
It certainly wouldn't have worked at 1g.
While you can build ships as big as you desire, the ground is the limiting factor for ground vehicles.
Especially fuel trucks, my biggest concern would be would the fuel even be worth it? Or would it just be better fueling even more Heavy tanks instead?
>It would've been even more of a waste than the Maus which was more of a waste than the King Tiger which was more of a waste than the Tiger.
I once recall reading about a post-war scrap recovery crew coming to a battlefield in the eastern highlands of France where they found the wrecks of 30 shermans and 1 jagdtiger, the latter being abandoned and scuttled by its crew. 150 americans died there. An entire fucking tank battalion was wasted by one enemy vehicle. The jagdtiger had 250 mm front armor and a high power 128 mm gun comparable to the modern 127 mm gun found on USN cruisers and destroyers.
The predecessor to the jagdtiger, the elephant, was insanely cost effective over its lifetime. All vehicles were lost but they racked up an enormous kill count courtesy of their 200 mm front armor and high-powered 71 caliber 88 mm gun. Meanwhile, US army was content to spend 5 shermans to get 1 panther. The Sherman did not become a decent tank until the M4A3E8 ("easy eight") arrived and not all of them had a 76 mm gun. The easy eight did not only have a better suspension but also much improved ergonomics compared to previous generations and wet stowage of ammunition which decreased the amount of cooked americans.
Do you want to know something about the competence of your top military brass? The turret from the M26 Pershing had the same turret ring diameter as the Sherman turret, meaning that it could have been easily dropped in. That would have improved the Sherman a lot since the Pershing turret had thicker armor and a 90mm 50 caliber gun comparable to the 88L56 in the Tiger 1. A massive upgrade in firepower and a moderate in armor. Guess what happened? The commander in chief wanted those 90 mm guns in AA battallions and the lower brass wanted more tanks instead of thougher tanks. You could ship 3 shermans for every 2 pershings. Your grandpa was sent to war with inferior equipment because the people in charge had no fucking clue about what they were doing.
Vehicles as these were really intended as thought experiments not for implementation.
>What if they actually built this landship?
They did... The just put spaceships on it.
>Implying tanks didn't go first