Australia introduces bill to drug test welfare recipients...

Australia introduces bill to drug test welfare recipients, failing the test results in income management plan a card with which you can only buy essential foods, and be referred to a mental health doctor. How is this a bad idea? It would help so many

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I'm all for it, but why are politicians always immune from such invasions? Certainly it's more dangerous to have fucked up drug addict politicians than welfare leaches.

It is inherently racist bigot!

And the drugs will still flow
This will stop nothing

I need to pass a drug test in order to work for money but assholes can get free money without a test?
wtf?

One step closer to ending all welfare.

Drug addicts have mental problems and need pharmaceutical drugs instead

Denying people drugs that at least bring them some relief from their misery seems rather cruel. Not all drug users are in a shitty situation because they use drugs. Most use drugs because they are in a shitty situation. Often with little to no hope for the future.

*Need the rope instead
FIFY

>Why do people that write the laws exclude themselves from the law
I wonder why

Send them to the camps!
just don't give them psychoactive pharmaceuticals otherwise that defeats the purpose. The camps are not a punishment, but a way to save our less fortunate citizens from the brink.

Simple fix: get off government welfare; then you can cut loose

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have you never been shopping on the first of the month? they will trade you their ebt cards for half the value or less in cash so they can go get shitfaced instead of feeding their 7 kids

Youre basically arguing that once people hit rock bottom, they intentionally dig deeper. A large portion of the homeless population aren't addicted to anything.

Sure, drugs can be both a cause, as well as an effect. However, I don't think you can argue that cutting out even a small portion of people abusing the system for Ill gains is not a justification.

it's just a plot by government bureaucrats to strengthen their power
there will be more money spent on administrating and managing those drug tests and their results than is saved by decreased welfare spending
but "small state" conservative liberturdians will still support it because hurr durr less handouts
it will also institutionalize more people by forcing them into rehab and penitentiaries further increasing public dependence on government institutions and milking the tax payer

How about going outside getting mental help if needed and finding a job sitting a basement smoking weed doesn't help anything

I'd rather we get rid of drug tests almost entirely. Keep it for scientific research, athletic competitions, and for post accident checks.

>do not feed the birds

Happy normal people work, if they have a disability then they need to change payments laziness isn't a disability

>How is this a bad idea?
Because it's too expensive. It's been tried.
There just shouldn't be any welfare.
>which you can only buy essential foods
What the fuck else does welfare allow buying now? Why aren't welfare scum on such already? RETARDED

Weren't there some states that did this, and found such a small percentage of people who'd applied and been rejected after the testing that it just wound up costing them way more money than they would have saved? And if I recall correctly, wasn't there something about that governor having ties to the drug testing business awarded the contract?

Any anons know what I'm talking about?

This is step that would result in many getting cut off and finding a job

Can they still purchase and consume alcohol, or are they only trying to stop people from consuming weeds that cost nothing to grow and therefore are hard to tax?

Dole bludgers generally aren't growing weed they're buying and smoking it

>It would help so many
>cutting off people from income support and driving them into debt is helping
imagine being this intellectually retarded? don't see how this will help those with major addiction problems. they'll just drive these people to rob others. you're not very bright, are you retard?

Some timid basement stoner neet isn't going to rob someone maybe the abos would but they rob people anyway

They have to buy alcohol too.

>Dole bludgers generally aren't growing weed they're buying and smoking it
> people that can barely afford weed
> aren't growing it
what a fucking retard. ahaha.

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I have no problem with almost any welfare assuming it's highly temporal like 1 year or less.

cunt will just go back to trading food and electronics and fuel and shit for drugs. Pointless initiative.

>Can they still purchase and consume alcohol,
yes. the government sees no issue with people being alcoholics.

well they can do that without the welfare hence the testing

wut jobs?

booze money goes right back to the government and the public it would be stupid to test for booze also weed stay in the body a long time so its good for testing

> i got btfo because im retarded now im just going to pretend i am illiterate
put down the meth pipe, get your neck into a noose and fucking neck yourself, you dribbling retard.
> i am a prostitute for the australian government
please die as soon as possible.

>Not just giving them enough to OD with and solving the problem forever

Military gets drug tested all the time. If I've gotta get tested to get my welfare bux, then you neet faggots can do the same. At least I occasionally do useful stuff for the country.

>lowest unemployment rate in Australian history
duuh where da jobs

pay for your own weed asshole im sick of my tax going to lazy fuckers the working majority all are

whenever any form of government becomes destructive of liberty it is the right of the people to abolish it - karl marx

As someone who had to get SNAP/Food stamps when I was poor and young this pisses me off. I was legitimately just trying to go to school during the recession and couldn't find enough part time work to pay for food. I always spent the little money I had wisely and never did any drugs or shit because anyone who isn't retarded can tell that drugs are an insanely expensive waste of money and anyone buying hard recreational drugs while below poverty line is a fucking idiot.

Drugfags shit up the welfare lines and don't deserve the help due to the fact that they are unwilling to help themselves first.

the welfare can still be used for essentials like food

>anyone buying hard recreational drugs while below poverty line is a fucking idiot.
What do you consider hard?

why the fuck should the public pay for someone to be smoking weed when they're unemployed

oh my gosh being poor sucks and is hard it's their only comfort and they need that stress relief!

Why do we give niggers money at all?

Why isn't that the default program to begin with?

I agree with drug testing bludgers, but maybe we could introduce corruption testing for Federal pollies first? These cunts are the true parasites.

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it isn't about stopping drugs, but from stopping leeches

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JUST PISS IN THE BOTTLE FOR MEEEE MATE

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What sort of test can you think of to detect degenerate NEETS?

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of course its a good idea, but you have to ask yourself why the elite are implementing something that reduces the amount of resources being distributed to the populace. and what IS that aid anyway? that aid is a bread line. so what is happening is measures are being taken to reduce how much is given out in that bread line. why would that happen? because resources are getting thin.

I agree that neetbucks should require drug testing but i know better than to think its being done for any reason other than managing sparse resources

Howz wez niggaz gon lift deyself outsa brokeness if wez cant getz hi wif gibs?

This. The only solution is chinese death penalty.

Fuck you you fucking piece of shit. You want to sit around all day getting high? Fine, your life. You want others to work hard and pay taxes so you can sit around getting high? Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you.

Just stop giving niggers money already.
Knock it off
Problem solved

It is not demeaning and needs to happen in America. I am not lying will I tell you that I have been on government programs before. Most of my neighbors if not all smoke weed, sell weed, on harder drugs, and single moms who made terrible decisions and let their bastard children run rampant. Now I thank Jesus (not ironically) that I have been given a good job that pays over $50,000 a year. But the point is these people are usually on drugs.

Let's stop calling it a drug test and call it a marijuana test. Because realistically the only drug you're going to rest positive for is marijuana.
Especially since there's no real way to have a random drug test for welfare. With work, you show up and they say "hey some with me to the back room, you have a drug test to take."
With welfare you get your benefits deposited directly to your account. All you have to do is postponed your test for 24 hours and you will test negative. Unless you smoke weed. If you smoke weed then yeah, you'll fail. It is virtually the only drug that stays in your system longer than 24 hours.

Cry me a river. Im not gonna subsidise some loser burnout doing nothing but sitting around feeling sorry for themselves all day no thanks

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Do you really think they are going to pay a nigger to watch your thick cock while you piss for food stamps?
This isn't parole

sensors on benis, play /d/ hentai on tv

if benis, mark as NEET

Just told a case manager at cenno that I'm in a community initiative to help abos make mixtapes to break into the music industry. I need my weed for artistic inspiration so when I fail the test they can't cut me off. Eat shit wagies.

The Lau-ra of Wet B-lankets en-ters the th-read.

Instead of participatin-g in thr-ead discussi-on, this La-ura just w-ants to p-oint out that yo-u're current-ly at the edge of the bo-ard and ab-out to die. =^_-^=

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>you need gibs to grow weed
dude just fucking steal a plant pot and some bird seed, what are you retarded?

>yes goy only the pills we sell you are good

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It's a violation of their privacy. You're going to have to get their DNA to drug test them.

the only way this would work is to drug test them every day, otherwise hard drug users can stop for a few days, take the test and laugh while you think you've prevented them from getting more

drug testing is a joke, and it gives people the false illusion of verified control

The best argument against drug testing welfare recipients was that it cost more money than it saved.

The druggies among neets are mostly 50+ year olds who were made redundant and will never get a normal job again regardless

Oh shit, Guess I'll have to resort to using 2fma instead of regular old speed.
I don't understand drug testing. Everything they test for can be bypassed by simply using a fluoridated derivative or a slightly modified version of the drug. For instance, I get randomly drug tested at work but it's all good because I'm snorting IPPH instead of Ritalin.

Yes, all public servants should undergo such, and it should be at random intervals throughout the year and done by the public sector with hospitals chosen at random.

the ultimate redpill is reducing their salary to the average of their consitutients
watch how many politicians dont run for re-election

Their salaries are nothing. It's the access to tech/industrial power brokers and wall street types with inside information that makes them rich, and it usually only takes off in the private sector jobs they line up while they're in office.

The healthcare for life thing doesn't hurt either.

Almost every single pothead I know buys their weed. Most of the time they're too retarded to grow it themselves.

Stick them in welfare islands, and keep the sedated with borloi

You can claim welfare for a total of 2 years to get your shit together.

After that - you either provide for yourself or to get any further welfare you have to get sterilised.