Now I understand

Imperial hegemony of USA

kek

this, minimalism and stoicism and permaculture farming and self sufficiency and fascism would cure greed

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Muh apropriation.

(((very evil people)))

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Which is propelled by what?

Superior geography.

No, greed. The hubris afforded to them due to geography is not what is pushing consumerism on the world.

>No, greed.

No, it's actually pussy. What do people need all this money for in the end? It's like they're competing for something and try to one up each other by making things more efficient to save resources. Looks like this actually created modern civilization. Wow, seems like this kind of reductionism is retarded and intellectually lazy.

You don't save resources in an ever expanding capitalistic consumer market. You may waste less, but more resources is always consumed in the end.

>You may waste less
If you waste less than your competitors than that gives you an advantage over your competitors which is what matters in getting pussy.

Which is why America is a cancer upon the world. Pussy, money, whatever, it's all greed.

>Pussy, money, whatever, it's all greed.

But that's an evolutionary constant present throughout whole history of hunakind. That's why you need examine other factors. Proclaiming that: it's all greed, maaaaan - like it's some profound revelation is a juvenile silliness.

So what? That doesn't mean it's not detrimental.
What is then that fuels the capitalistic quest for profit?

this guy gets it. more money demands more customers. so they mandate evil people as good people.
but they dont get affected by the consequence so they can afford to double down on it.
wonder why the most liberal places are also the ones located the furthest from middle east, like canada or california.

>So what? That doesn't mean it's not detrimental.
As I said before it can as easily framed as a thing that created modern civilization and pretty much everything you view as positive.

>What is then that fuels the capitalistic quest for profit?
Most likely the same thing that caused our ancestors to overhunt big game.

Holy fuck thats actually a great idea.

What do you assume I view as positive in modern society?
Consumerism isn't positive, progress is positive, but we haven't seen progress in our lives. The only thing that progresses these days in the growth of capitalism.
Progress is possible without society being fueled by a need to display higher numbers than last years numbers.

Imagine a timeline in which Islam was syncretized with Japanese state religion. Shintslam perhaps. The same Muslim traditionalism and fecund family orientation, but with Shinto nationalism and Emperor worship. The genius of that. Imagine even ten divisions of those men and Japan's troubles would be over very quickly. You have to have men who are moral and at the same time who are able to utilize their primordial instincts to kill without feeling, without passion, without judgement. Without judgement! Because it's judgement that defeats us.

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>progress is positive
Another vague platitude. What do you consider progress in the past present? What fueled it?

*past and present

what fuels it ?
your investors. your stockholders.
everyone wants you to make money than last years.

That's not what he's asking.

Why do they need all that money?

Either I'm explaining things not clearly enough or these guys are particularly dense, maybe on purpose.

i thought i read what fuels consumerism

Mashallah, I'll make my wife wear this