If Trump is losing to the democrats by 10 point margins in all of the polls, why is he planning a rally in NEW MEXICO???

If Trump is losing to the democrats by 10 point margins in all of the polls, why is he planning a rally in NEW MEXICO???

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almost like he's stupid or something

>flag
I'll bite. Even if Trump was stupid, wouldn't his campaign staff send him elsewhere (like Texas or Ohio) if he was really losing badly?

He's pretty good at politics
Let's just see how it plays out.

this is a man that puts a sharpie on scientific data he doesn't like. do you really think he listens to his staff?

Trump made a deal (don't you all remember? right before the muh Russia thing ended), no way he loses.

Rio Rancho is full of Boomer retirees. It's one of the few places in NM that he could find any traction.

Remind me what deal he made?

But if that was the case, New Mexico would be out of reach. Surely you know how the electoral college works?

The polls are always rigger
Rejoice, theyll lose againnand itll be like last time because they believe theyll win

Also, at this point if he doesnt win Im calling fraud and going apeshit

It almost seems like he would want to campaign more in states that are blue leaning than waste time in states that are historically red and in his pocket anyway.

by that "logic" CA must be in reach too since blumpf is visiting there. surely you know that this isn't how things work.

>rio rancho
A always
B be
C closing

Remember that Trump lost NM by −8.21%, but

Libertarian Johnson won 9.34% and Evan McMullin got close to 1%.

If neither of those two run and Trump is able to capture those voters he most definitely can flip New Mexico.

>imagine being this retarded

He's visiting Epstein Ranch

lol, this

Epstein is dead. What does he gain from going there?

He can go destroy the evidence.

I'm a NM fag and I'll be there.

>implying he would do it himself in person

He will draw massive crowds in liberal states. this is how he wins .

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This

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He'll also win the popular vote. Trump will lose by a lot less in CA and NY than last time (don't think I'm saying he'll win those states) and he'll win by a lot more in Texas and Florida. Lefties will be on suicide watch

To win.

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Completely delusional

>why is he planning a rally in NEW MEXICO???
Same reason the crazed maniac went to Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, etc in 16'.
He doesn't understand that those states can not be won, by him.

Trump will win, because his strategy is good. And that's why he holds rallies where he does. STRATEGY.

I bet he read Musashi's book, and Sun Tsu's. I bet he learned from them, to.

NY trended toward Trump almost as much as muh rustbelt. Texas and California are full of boomer and cuckservative republicans who didn't vote Trump in 2016 because of muh divorces an sheeit, but who will crawl through broken glass to vote Trump in 2020 to keep socialists out of power

>Pennsylvania
The moment that map flipped to red, I practically jizzed

Lol, I remember being amazed when I reloaded drudge report and it said "TRUMP WINS OH", "TRUMP WINS FL", and "TRUMP WINS NC" in big red letters. Little did I know that was just the beginning

>this is a man that puts a sharpie on scientific data he doesn't like. do you really think he listens to his staff?
Another meme flag regurgitating shit from social media....

My guess for the map, I can explain why but most people wouldn't read my long post lol.

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I'll read it if it's well written

I think the pollsters and pundits are all looking at this election with Tunnel Vision. I believe if we look into the data, we can see this next election will have very surprising results akin to the Michigan and Pennsylvania flip of the last election.

Now I'll share a couple of charts that show the ideological swing of the big 6 swing states from 2000 to 2016 as well as how much more Republican states voted from 2012 to 2016.

Taking a look at the six big swing states you see even states who might shy away from calling themselves "Republican" like Wisconsin, Minnesota or New Hampshire still have gotten more conservative over time. Now considering this conservative bent how would the election play out if the Democrats are successfully branded socialists.

Now let's dig a little deeper into NH, Hillary won the state by fewer then 3,000 votes. NH has changed its absentee voter law for out of state students who we know voted overwhelmingly liberal.

As for Coloardo, Trump lost by a margin of 4.91%. However, Coloardo also had tremendous support for two conservative and Republican leaning independents. Gary Johnson captured 5.18% of the vote and Evan McMullin captured 1.04%. That's a 6.22% share of the electorate that we can assume would only benefit Trump in 2020.

Very similar situation in Nevada, Trump lost by 2.42%. Johnson captured 3.32%

Maine at Large, dramatically drifted more Republican in 2016, with Trump losing the vote by 2.96%, and Johnson capturing over 5% of the electorate.

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I fucking know that feel. After a year of solid "Trump can't win" BS, watching Pennsylvania flip red, made me fill buckets.

>in all of the polls
Wasn't Trump losing in all the polls before the election? Do you also believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny?

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>I think the pollsters and pundits are all looking at this election with Tunnel Vision.
Nicely written. But I think you credit them with more thought than they actually apply.
Imo, you simply take 3-5 pts off the dims, and put 3-5 on the Republicans. That usually gets you closer to the correct numbers.
Every poll. Every time. This is by accident or oversight. It's deliberately done to discourage Republicans from voting. I mean who wants to wait in line to vote for someone you know is going to lose.

Yeah, MUH BLUE COLORADO and MUH BLUE NEVADA defeatists don't like it when you bring up Gary Johnson. I wouldn't be surprised if there are more states out there that weren't quite within the margin of Aleppo, but which will vote Trump because of increased support in general + no more Aleppo man

>Wasn't Trump losing in all the polls before the election?
Yup. Hell, he was predicted to lose Georgia and possibly Texas.
By "experts", using very high tech algorithms and data from 11 billion sources.
So either the math was consistently wrong for 2 years......or they're fucking liars in the pocket of the dims.

Thanks user, I agree with what your saying but I actually think that the Pennsylvania victory might energize voters in traditionally blue states.

Think of Delaware, Connecticut, Rhode Island and New Jersey. These states drifted dramatically more Republican compared to 2012, and I wonder what psychological effect Pennsylvania flipping will have on voters in these states. For the past two decades many people have felt their votes don't matter unless they are in a swing state, seeing these new swing states emerging could we see enough voters energized to possible flip these states?

I think you're missing my point. I'm suggesting that Trump is a lot stronger than the polls say he is because he's about to do a rally in a Hispanic blue state

Because his campaign manager, Brad Parscale, is someone who has only worked on a single campaign in his life, and even then only as a technical operative. He made his career by being a contrarian; he's not going to stop now.

>These states drifted dramatically more Republican compared to 2012,
Interesting thought. I can't picture a red Delaware or a red Rhode island, but RR did it. So in theory it's possible.
What effect was the coal industry on Pennsylvania going red? Thats a lot of families voting to get jobs back.
>Feed my family
>Pay my bills
Or
>Slave payments
>Trans abortion funding

Which do east coast voters care more about? I seriously don't know.

Many are look at my earlier post

You're fucking retarded if you think Trump will win Colorado.

Sorry meant this post

He worked on a WINNING campaign tho. As opposed to career political whores.
I'll take Bad Brad ftw.

I wrote a nice well thought out opinion, you call me a retard.

At least try to change my mind.

I think you're onto something. My theory is that the internal polls show Trump rapidly catching up in New England, which is why the New England separatist meme was being astroturfed so hard for a few days. The Democrat operatives on this site wanted to convince some of the rightwingers in new England that they're better off seceding (which would mean no votes for Trump)

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I live here. Do you know anything about this state at all? There has been an influx of people here from around the country, and not the sort of people who would vote Trump.

He was the tech guy, not the actual campaign manager. He didn't win anything. He just took credit for it. I heavily doubt that Facebook ads were the really important part of Trump winning Pennsylvania.

It's not a huge stretch.
I'll grant it's difficult to unlikely. But not impossible.
Worth wasting time/money fighting there? I'm inclined to say no. But, I've learned to give Trump time to get his plans going.

>Trusting polls.

Kys faggot, cording to polls Trump would have lost in 2016, brexit wouldn't have passed and bolsonaro would have lost by 5 percent.

The data gathered from shit like fb was critical. It encouraged them to have a couple more rallies in Michigan for example.

Hehe

I think most of them don't vote. White folk in NJ vote overwhelmingly Republican. But the problem is most don't vote. This leads the state to constantly be blue.

He's demoralized, there's no helping him. If Trump did win Colorado, instead of being happy, he'd be angry because he was wrong the whole time

I think Trump easily takes Maine at large and NH.

trump could cancel the election and the news would bitch about it for a day then everyone would just forget

>NJ vote overwhelmingly Republican
I mean fatty Kristy won there. So it's possible.

I think your state has a conservative bent that could tip the state if the Trump campaign focuses on it and Democrats ignore it.

Are you from Colorado? Or are you extrapolating your Midwest to here?

Do you live here?

>Maine at large and NH.
Maine, ok.
NH? Dude, with?
Give me your reasoning for that please.

The thing is they felt they could change the outcome of governor they didn't think they could change outcome of the presidential race.

Could this change now that Pennsylvania flipped? We'll have to wait and see.

No

Neither, I'm from CA. Despite seeing the abject disaster that CA is, I don't get demoralized because that simply isn't how I think

I seem to recall you trannies saying this shit in 2016, too.

Well, I haven't made any statements about any other state but the one I live in. Trump will get blown out here, not as badly as in CA, but pretty badly.

Trump only lost by 3000 votes. Since 2000 NH has gotten 3.4% more conservative. And the change in absentee voter laws will only help Trump.

Which was?

Let me add that Trump will do worse here than in 2016.

2020 is going to be such a #redrape

>Could this change now that Pennsylvania flipped? We'll have to wait and see.
It's a good theory. Pennsylvania flipping may drag some nj people who haven't voted in 10-30 years out of the house.
Well done user.

I got you we'll just have to wait and see.

Trump only lost by 3000 votes in NH, and that was mainly due to out of state college students voting. They now have a Republican governor who is supportive of Trump, and he won't tolerate that kind of crap

Imagine getting triggered over a sharpie

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Well now. I didn't know that. Good info m8. Thx.

Hope I've gotten you energized what state do you live in?

Delaware is just shy of an absolute majority of Democrats. Independents and Republicans together outweigh the Dems by about 20,000 votes (out of almost 700,000 total).

In 2016, Delaware went Dem 55/45, if I recall correctly. So it is just barely within the realm of possibility for Delaware to flip red.

Lol
Oklahoma. We're good here.

I worked with Brad directly in 2016 when he was still the digital director. Great guy, though I'm not sure if he will remain as the campaign manager in 2020. Can't assign credit for the Trump campaign's digital innovations solely to him, but I'm sure that he signed off on them.

>tfw Brad is too busy to talk to you on FB messenger anymore

We're the only state that didn't have a single county vote for Obama.
And people here love Trump, and hate libs in general.
No going blue here.

Last time he went to New Mexico he had brown savages waving mexican flags throw rocks at his rally...

Wants to see it happen again

Now don't get me wrong im not guessing he'll win Delaware my map is posted above. What im just saying is in 2012 Romney lost by 18.63%. Trump only lost by 11.37% which is an insane improvement. Imagine Trump only losing by 7% or 4%! It might just change the way people look at elections forever.

It's almost as if the polls are wrong...

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Im gonna go out on a limb
pic related

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So far Trump and his campaign have been talking more about NM than CO. Maybe CO is that far gone?

Aw such a good discussion let's not let it end

>>Last time he went to New Mexico

That was the 1st rally in New Mexico. At the Albuquerque Convention Center. Police made us all leave via the parking garage. Rioters were throwing bolts, broke a lot of windows. Had to bring the Police horses into the Center because they were being attacked.

2nd time he held a rally at the Sunport in an aircraft hanger, pulled the plane right up to the doors.

Got my tickets tonight for the rally in Rio Rancid, I'll take some pictures and report back, if we survive the riots.

trump's doing campaigns on monday night so if mnf has low ratings he can say it's because people were watching the rally

NM has low overall voter turnout. There are 70,000 people hypothetically that voted for Bush in 2004 but not Trump in 2016 which means that if he can win them over then NM will be a swing state

The fact Republicans don't compete in NM except Bush in 2000 and 2004 is a pretty good indicator that it's a swing state if anyone wants it to be.

Also NM Hispanics are the second most Republican after Florida Hispanics and NM Indians are the second most Republican after Oklahoma Indians so the key mostly lies in turning out white rednecks who otherwise don't bother voting and combining the Navajo-Spic-Redneck alliance to take control of the state.

NM is also the poorest in the union and has had a stagnant unemployment level for 10 years which has only turned around under Trump. It is also the second most religious state in the southwest after Texas with 76% of the population being Christian- on par with the South. It only votes Democrat because Catholics tend to be Democrats.

Economically Trump's pro-border pro-military pro-fracking agenda is pretty much the best possible thing that could happen to a state like NM, which controls a lot of Permian Basin oil and would get 10,000 more jobs if Trump's BP expansion went along. Wall construction also creates jobs.

Basically Democrats sat on their asses for 10 years feeling like they were 10 points ahead, now Trump is going to whittle that margin down to a 1% lead or less by appealing to the gibs-desiring nature of the NM people. Trump is offering the big government gibs and the Democrats want to defund fracking, the wall, the BP and the military while legalizing third trimester abortions in a deeply Catholic, anti-abortion state. Democrats are currently the worst possible thing to happen to NM- Trump is just capitalizing on it.

The question is if Libertarian brainlets realize this or keep voting L and if conservative Democrat realize this or keep voting D.

The one they shut down ? Why?

The polls are literally all +9 D on average. Clinton had a +3 D advantage in 2016 and that was only with tremendous and pointless spending on GOTV efforts in California.

The 2020 Senate election map favors Republican turnout, so unless Dems spend a bunch on turnout in CA again (they don't have the money this time) it'll probably be at least +1 R- which means a Trump landslide.

Mexican men are very proud
I know a few who refused to vote because they hate trump but would rather die than vote for a woman
Some voted for Hillary but only because they felt they needed to
Only the younger Mexican men truly supported Hillary
3 have said trump isn't add bad as they thought he would be
Trump will win new Mexico in 2020

We still see butt-blasted libs saying, "But she got more hits!"
Winning 30 states and what, 320 electoral runs was good enough in 2016.
I don't think his current team understands how disappointed with him a lot of his base is with his performance on a lot of issues, and her heinous isn't a factor this time (and is still loose), but we'll see.

He’s accepting his defeat.

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