>declare war on germany
>win war against germany
>install ZOGs everywhere to ensure total control over germany
>the world suddenly turns into a degeneracy ridden shithole with mass immigration everywhere
>blame germans as usual
You do realize how pathethic you are, right?
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Most Jow Forumstards aren't capable of self reflection
sins of the father m8
What about them?
>GERMany goes from being the most degenerate place in Europe to destroying European nations
>gets stopped in it's tracks (this isn't the first time they've made these very mistakes, I might add)
>the result is that Europe is indebted and in ruins, British and continental leadership of the world is passed over to literal kikes in what was a backwater and the next century is a constant and consistent decline of everything
Gee, thanks Germany!
>british
>white
Sorry am I getting my history wrong?
Wasn't it Germany that declared war?
just imagine being 70 years old and realizing the enemy was right all along and your friends died for the wrong cause.
no surprise they never talk about ww2.
You can't get smarter by reading. It would be futile for the Jow Forums dude to go to the library to get a bigger head. You might read a lot because you're smart but certainly not the other way around. That's all. This meme is stupid.
Hans, save this
England declared war on Germany, thus starting the war. After that the Soviet Union wanted to invade Germany and then all of Europe in order to survive, because it 'couldn't survive with surrounding capitalist countries' so Germany found out and invaded them first to stop the bolshevisation of the earth. When you think about it, the rest of the world should all thank the man they wish to hate, because without Hitler, all the pseudo democrats and court historians would have been the first against the wall.
Leave the big dipper alone, mountain jew
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Nice uh psedo-history
Reminder we were supplying you with a shit ton of free materials for no cost
Why would we invade you if we were giving you free shit?
To shoot it back at us?
You think Russian intelligence is that low?
>psedo-history
He's 100% right.
Read Viktor Suvorov's 'Icebreaker'.
Go on and dismiss it as bullshit. For me it is the absolute truth and I will keep dismissing the holohoax and """""german war atrocities""""" as bullshit so fuck you slavshit scum
>implying Germany wouldn't eventually become a cesspoll even if Hitler somehow miraculously won
they are more powerful than you imagine, eventually your little idol would succumb
I don't understand why you can't answer the question and instead direct me to read something else.
In the actual accounts, Stalin locked himself in his room for a week crying and getting drunk because he couldn't believe he got himself betrayed.
We didn't even have a single plan of action and Hitler took 1/3 of Russia before any mobilization was made
Does that look like an army ready to invade?
Based
yo krautz, Muhammad is raping your cute blonde neighbor down the street, will you sit on your ass all day or you gonna help her?
Germany's Constitution is still off the Occupation by the US.
Once again read Icebreaker
We seriously would have no problem with you if you had no plans on invading all of Europe to keep up with your communist ideology. We could have shared Polish land, we could have been friends and fight against the British and possibly the Americans in later stages, but no, your country wanted to dominate all of Europe
I live in a small rural town with only old people around, no niggers or whatsoever, but how can you say something like that when you live in fucking Brazil out of all countries? jesus fucking christ.
Indeed, yet they still blame Germans for all the problems.
Once again, why are you unable to answer the question.
You read Icecucker, no?
Paraphrase than
Russia was gayop'd by the kikes too, don't make it like you were some sort of supersoldiers, we all lost our freedom to the kikes in this war.
the communist revolution in Russia was made by the kikes, and financed by Wall Street kikes.
>didn't have a single plan
Stalin was fucking depressed after the war, why? Because he couldn't have Europe for himself due to American and British intervention. He didn't show up on military parades and a few years later he died. You slavshit scum betrayed us, we signed a fucking non aggression pact, but I guess that's the Russian mentality, backstabbing pieces of fucking shit.
Also, why does communist symbolism always include the hammer and sickle over the earth globe? You've always wanted world domination since the very beginning.
don't blame ethnic Russians, they were played out like the mutts were.
Ok? how the fuck does that answer my question?
Are you unable to understand English?
Parlez-Vous Englis?
What is the strategic reason for Soviets declaring war on Germans when they were the ones providing Germans with Ammunition?
This is like the 3rd time I'm asking the same question
You lost your freedom during the "French" revolution, Napoleon was a zogbot before it was cool.
who was behind this revolution too? Masons under direct orders of the Rothschild kikes
I only blame ethnic russians who are on the side of the soviet government. They should have been genocided.
Because of fucking puppetry you stupid idiot, how the fuck can you be so dumb????????????????
"Stalin escalated tensions in Europe by providing a combination of economic and military support to the Weimar Republic, and later to National Socialist Germany. After World War I, the Allies attempted to impose severe restrictions on the Weimar Republic to prevent it from rearming and again becoming a significant military threat. During "the early 1920s until 1933, the Soviet Union was engaged in secret collaboration with the German military to enable it to circumvent the provisions of the Versailles Treaty", which limited Germany's military production. Moscow allowed the Germans to produce and test their weapons on Soviet territory, while some Red Army officers attended general-staff courses in Germany. The basis for this collaboration was the Treaty of Rapallo, signed between the two nations in 1922, and subsequent diplomatic interactions. This collaboration ended when the anti-communist National Socialists took power in 1933. But, according to Suvorov, in the years 1932-1933, "Stalin helped Hitler come to power by forbidding German Communists to make common cause with the Social Democrats against the National Socialists in parliamentary elections". Suvorov claimed that Stalin's plan and vision was that Hitler's should play the role of "icebreaker" for the Communist revolution. By becoming involved in wars with European countries, Hitler would justify the USSR's entry into World War II by attacking National Socialist Germany and "liberating" and Sovietising all of Europe. When concluding the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact in 1939, Stalin "clearly counted on the repetition of the 1914–1918 war of attrition, which would leave the "capitalist" countries so exhausted that the USSR could sweep into Europe virtually unopposed"."
check'd
being on the side of the soviets is being on the side of the kikes soo...
>By becoming involved in wars with European countries, Hitler would justify the USSR's entry into World War II by attacking National Socialist Germany and "liberating" and Sovietising all of Europe. When concluding the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact in 1939, Stalin "clearly counted on the repetition of the 1914–1918 war of attrition, which would leave the "capitalist" countries so exhausted that the USSR could sweep into Europe virtually unopposed"."
Ok, so your book has no basis on historical fact and instead uses a "what if" approach to history
>If this than that
My counter arguments against this are
Winston Churchhill's - The Second World War
Richard Overy - Russia's War: A History of the Soviet Effort: 1941-1945
Robert Conquest - The Great Terror: A Reassessment
Robert Conquest - Stalin: Breaker of Nations
Which use actual historical analysis and feelings at the time to paint a narrative for feelings of the time and plans and actions that the soviets had for the next 100 years
>taking Churchill, literal peon of the kikes, as a valid source.
lmao kys Ivan.
Am I supposed to discount all information because it might somehow connect itself to jews?
If so you better stop using Jow Forums
I heard moot might have some jew in him
debunk the fact that your country was nothing more than a Golem of the jews that had no regard whatsoever to ethnic Russians that they starved and killed to advance their political agenda of total domination over the world.
protip : you can't.
>implying the majority of people can actually think and reason
People are retarded emotional idiots who go to war and die just because "it's their duty". They didn't know what they are fighting for.
Unlike you my mongoloid friend, I understand that people aren't simply one dimensional figurines and that any form of government could have formed out of the weakened Country which had just taken major losses in WW1 and Lost in Japan whilst at the same time creating a transitional economy
Jews aren't some fucking boogie man that have omniscient control over hearts and minds
Populi make short term decisions over long term because goods and services sound appealing
People aren't golems, They're people with willpower that can get eroded for greener pastures
Churchill didn't even allow kikes into higher levels of secret services but he's a kike puppet? Evidence?
I would recommend the book "Icebreaker", by Victor Suvorov, to everyone in this thread.
Hey kraut do you hate slavs?
>Populi make short term decisions over long term because goods and services sound appealing
they were sure appealing under Soviet Russia, especially the non-existent goods.
>People aren't golems, They're people with willpower that can get eroded for greener pastures
X to doubt.
but i was talking about the Country itself, like the JewSA are the Golem of the jews today.
History is written by a couple of people in a room, not by the populace.
lmao are you this Naive? Churchill was groomed by the kikes since a young age, and they bankrolled him off debt in exchange for total submission.
>Randolph Churchill, (1849-1895), politician The father of Winston Churchill was an intimate of the Rothschild family. He formed a close association with Nathaniel, 1st Lord Rothschild, on whose behalf he reported on the development of the mining industry in South Africa. Churchill was a frequent guest at Rothschild houses.
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Shut your filthy nigger mouth
>Glantz views Suvorov's argument as "incredible" on a variety of fronts: first, Suvorov rejects without examination classified ex-Soviet archival material, and makes highly selective picks from memoirs. Glantz points to this as a serious methodological flaw. Further, Glantz argues, Suvorov's thesis is strongly contradicted both by ex-Soviet and German archival material, and the facts do not support the argument that the Red Army was prepared to invade Germany. On the contrary, the appalling lack of readiness, poor training level, and abysmal state of deployments show that the Red Army was unprepared for static defense, much less large-scale offensive operations.
>Although Suvorov claims that an attack date of July 6, 1941 had been selected, this is contradicted by the evidence as presented by Glantz and others. There were no stockpiles of fuel, ammunition, and other stores held in forward areas as would have been needed if an invasion was about to be mounted. Major ground units were dispersed into small garrisons rather than being concentrated at railheads, as they would have been had they been preparing an invasion. Units were not co-located with their own transportation assets, leaving, for example, major artillery units immobile. Over 50% of all Soviet tanks required major maintenance on June 22, 1941. If an invasion were being planned, these maintenance tasks would have been completed. Most Soviet armor units were in the process of re-organizing into the new Tank Corps formations; the German invasion caught these units in the midst of this reorganization. Such a large-scale reorganization is inconsistent with an impending invasion.
Sounds like you'd have to ignore basic facts and state of the Soviet army at the time to actually believe this hogwash. Here's a tip for you buddy, just because it doesn't conform to le """Jewish""" fake history doesn't mean it's true.
Reading provides new ideas and views you might have not had before and even if you don't adopt them they go through your thought process to either be able to argue against them or at least understand them. And cognitive stimulation does increase your IQ.
Maybe read something other then only fiction for once.
Blaming Germany for accepting migrants not immigrants. Why didn't the EU reject Muslims?
>Reminder we were supplying you with a shit ton of free materials for no cost
>Why would we invade you if we were giving you free shit?
Because Stalin was using Germany to fight the capitalist nations and weaken them both for invasion and communist takeover. Hitler knew this and repeatly PLEADED with the british empire for a peace but they refused. Why? Because jews controlled the British empire and the USSR.
Poland actually defended Europe from Communist Aggression in the 1920.
Then Germany almost allied with the communists to take out Poland.
And I am supposed to believe that the subhuman krauts actually cared about muh ebil gommunism and didn't just want clay for their retarded fantasies?
>reeeeeeee stop being so bad slavs wtf i hate youuuu i hate you fuck you slavshits reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>Am I supposed to discount all information coming from known liars with a clear dog in the race?
Yes.
> muh narrative, muh feelings from the authors
Since you're so unbendingly loyal to kikes, let me quote a kike for you: Facts don't care about your feelings.
If you're not averse to reading books, read Icebreaker.
> b-but my question
He paraphrased the answer to your question in a few sentences at least 3 times, you just conveniently skip over every single time he did.
>And I am supposed to believe that the subhuman krauts actually cared about muh ebil gommunism and didn't just want clay for their retarded fantasies?
Because you refuse to look at the situation in context. The rise of the national socialists was brought about to reclaim lost territory from WW1(Poland and vaste areas of Russia) to feed the German people. When Britain and France cooked up an alliance with Poland to combat German expansion in the east it shows biased. When Poland was destroyed did Britain and France declare war on the USSR? No they did not. So this makes France,Poland and Britain willing stooges of the communists.
The hatred of the EU only recently came about due to ISIS and migrant flow to Europe just so you know.
>reeeeeeeeee stupid ebil western propaganda the ussr did nothing wrong the germans are the real bad guys they did the holohoax so ebil reeeeeeeeee
I believe the apathy to Russian genocide isnt only from propaganda but from contempt. Why did the Russian people refuse to overthrow their Bolshevik government as millions were killed and sent to the gulags?
See? Russians suck.
Exactly what happened. And then Jow Forums losers still dare to say that, even though we lost the war, everything that's happened to this world is our fault and that they are still glad we lost the war.
Neo liberals and neo cons have inherited the earth and nothing short of human extinction will get rid of them.
>be German
>own computer
>mash keys
>be descendant of the most destructive European culture of all time
>be problem and barbaric before Greek and Roman eras
>investors of gibs me dat
>continues after all this to blame everyone else for the trouble you start
>institutional autism, cold, humorless, barbaric, selfish people
>continue typing lacking self awareness
>continue mashing keys
>the eternal barbarian
long as you're talking about the bongs and baguettes I agree
The prominent ideologies are neo liberalism in the west, communism in the east and Islam in the desert.
This world is a burning trash heap.
No one said you had to whore yourself out to the burgers to win the war.
Just admit defeat to the superior people.
>jews make germany degenerate
>germans break free of that degeneracy
>kike bank owned bongs declare war on germany
you can argue about the hows and whys and details of the declaration but even if Germany hadn't invaded Poland the kikes would have found someone to declare war on them.
Down from a light jab. What faggot.
Why can't German people just shut up and build their mechanisms and assemble their cars without invading other countries and killing millions of children in gas chambers? We got it, you're a sick and sadistic people, now keep your sickness INSIDE your country and stop trying to ruin others!
>Implying roman society was worth a damn
German people have a cold mind but a warm heart a polar opposite to what you are accustomed to im sure.
>You fought against socialists but now you're socialsit! Not our fault!
frankfurt school blah blah
Who needs /bantz/ when you have Jow Forums?
You know what I hate most about Germans? Your complete inability to take responsibility for your own country. 9 times out of 10, whenever I see a kraut flag posting it's them bitching about how everyone else in the world is responsible for their problems.
Stop acting like you're fucking Eritrea. You're the most powerful county in Europe. You control the EU. It's been 74 fucking years since you got curbstomped. Japan got NUKED and then occupied, and they're nowhere near you on the cuck scale. It's time to grow up and accept responsibility for your own faults.
Nah. Just remove womens rights, and justice and sanity ans meritocracie will automatically ensue
>People aren't golems.
Wish that was true.
The Israeli flag must always fly highest in Britain.
