Do not forget that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny.
We are soon going to see a big push for the abolition of the electoral college
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I always liked the idea of the constitution, too bad you guys didn't.
A Libertarian should abhor d*mocracy altogether.
Except it’s in the constitution and it’s already known how to change things written in the constitution.
Good luck.
>libertarians
Truth.
>people STILL think the US is a Democracy
I will never understand this. Ever. It's never stated as such in the Constitution.
Apart from your boogeyman retarded bullshit, the Electoral College is a scam to maintain minority rule. I'll be very happy when it's abolished.
At its inception, the US was also a slave-holding. And you're right. It's not a democracy. Luckily, that can be changed too :)
*slave-holding state
Op is spot on 10/10
>affirmative action for hicks
My state is red and is worth like 3 EC points while CA was 55 more than the entirety of the "rural farmland, drivethrough, flyover, boring" states combined. What a stupid fucking read.
One person should be worth one vote. The electoral college is a sham.
>One person should be worth one vote.
Cool, can I come and vote in your election?
fuck you for that picture
>United States of America
>States
>States act as separate sovereign nations united under one flag
Fuck off retard. It's clear you don't understand the nation you're currently living in.
nigger
One person is not one citizen of legal voting age, it includes people who should otherwise not be allowed to vote. Do usall afavor and go back to canada
I like the US college. There’s such a array of issues across a country it’s important that there’s a balance to make sure the people living in an area have a voice. People living in cities have no idea about the rural areas and vice versa. I’d like a similar system here to be honest
The left feigns being civilized but act like rabid animals when they get their way, jesus fuck just vote out Trump you lunatics.
>the retardation in that post and this thread
Smaller states deserve a seat in the government just like every other state. Commy Fornia & Jew York should not determine the outcome of US elections. I wonder who is behind this idea.
Are you a US citizen? I'm also in favor of stringent voter ID laws per a national ID card, user.
So citizens of more populous states should have their rights subverted to satisfy a minority. I don't think so. The nation I'm living in is rapidly changing, and your static vision of it is antiquated and dying, just like White Supremacy.
I mean US citizens of legal voting age, retardo. I simly don't like letting the entirety of the election be decided by a vast minority.
> The USA should be NYC, LA, and SF fart-sniffing elites oppressing literally everyone else
Fuck off boomer.
>affirmative action for hicks
alright - minorities get AA, "hicks" get the EC. What's the issue?
The EC would only go away in the case that minorities completely overrun the country to the point where leftists are in control of most state governments. It could happen, but not for another generation at least. Dems are only talking about it now to get morons to vote for it thinking it'd be easy to do.
>Shalom my fellow libertarians
Sorry, so instead of majority rule, you want minority rule? Why not come out in favor of sheer oligarchy? What's the point of voting if three million more Americans choose another candidate? I posit that you conservative hacks only support the electoral college because it helps your side. You don't care about principles or voting, you weasels.
>So citizens of more populous states should have their rights subverted to satisfy a minority.
>I don't think
I know. Why should states of lesser populous have their rights subverted to satisfy the majority? I thought you merry band of faggot pushers was all about inclusion and safe spaces. Either way it's in the Constitution and your feelings can't get in the way of it no matter how retarded an opinion you have.
Originally, citizens didnt directly vote for president; get out of here with your rudimentary understanding of hiatory
More proof that libertarians should never be trusted.
>helps your side
>Obama won twice
>Bush won
>helps your side
Fucking kill yourself
And if the EC balance had tipped in favor of the Dems you'd be squealing just as loudly about it? I don't think so.
The States have representation because of the EC. If all the power vested in NY+Cali forevermore then secession would be the only reasonable response.
It’s about giving all the states a say in things. It’s called the UNITED states. If there’s no voice for people living in middle America what would be the point in staying united? If a candidates policies benefitted the country as a whole wouldn’t the whole country vote them?
>originally
Originally, slavery was legal. Fortunately, the Constitution can be changed, and it will be :)
I support the abolition of the electoral college under any circumstances. There's no point in letting a minority decide things for a majority.
They are this blatant because they know they are losing power. Take these shrill cries by the woke and media as yet more evdience that they are losing.
Alright you're just trolling. Take a (You) before I go nigger.
A bunch of states only agreed to ratify because of the electoral college. If you get rid of it, you're changing the basis of the bargain and the contract is void. That means secession of those states is legal.
It shouldn't be tipped so that the states with the smallest population have a greater say, though. This is an undemocratic oligarchic republic at this point.
Conservative minds aren't too bright, I see. Absolutely BTFO.
Trump still would have won if the electoral college votes were distributed according to population
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Slavery isnt in the Constitution
>There's no point in letting a minority decide things for a majority.
>wants blacks and mexicans to control America
God leftist are human shit..
I’m not even sure what your point is, but I know this:
Fuck the electoral college.
Gore would have been a 1 term prez, we never would have gotten fucked into invading Iraq and Afghanistan, we never would have gotten obama and then trump. We’d be so much better off.
But that’s irrelevant, the point it, fuck the electoral college.
>There's no point in letting a minority decide things for a majority.
Whites are a majority. The left loves minorities!
>there's no reason 2 wolves and a sheep shouldn't be able to vote on what's for dinner
>This is an undemocratic oligarchic republic at this point.
What do you mean this point? This country has always been ruled by an oligarchy behind the scenes you delusional fuck. All your stupid leftwing ass does is pick one of their puppets who fools you thinking you have any freedom.
Just admit that you're for a White Supremacist state. You're being intellectually dishonest otherwise, Magatards.
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Why do we still need it? Other than illegals voting?
Slavery was remedied via constitutional mechanisms. Get out of here with your 3rd grade bullshit
The majority should rule. You said so yourself. Or does that only apply when you like the results?
You're jumping the gun again, you assblasted memeflaggot. I'm aware it's always been an oligarchy. I suppose I should have said we're drifting straight towards unmitigated corporatism.
>letting California and Texas decide for the rest of the US
White supremacy is a meme made by jews to discredit preserving the white race.
>jumping
It was never intended to be a democracy, brainlet
The EC scam, too, must be remedied via Constitutional mechanisms.
So white supremacy, it is. You faggots are subversive though. You're too pussy to be public about it.
Sure just try faggot. Please push society finally over the edge.
just admit you're a braindead lefty and kys, it'snot that hard
>This President tramples all over the Constitution!
>We need to abolish the Electoral College!
wtf
You're dodging the question. Majority rule is fair and reasonable.
Why not dissolve congress and expand the House too?
if a president can be elected purely sucking up to coastal areas and their needs, why would inner areas stay in an organization that no longer cares from them?
>So white supremacy, it is
Are Igbos preserving themselves black supremacist?
>people thinking the US was ever a democracy
its like you niggrers failed your civic and US history classes. the US is a republic. it always has been.
The bottom tier schools no longer teach civics
So the entire country can vote in CA governers election?
fuck off kike
Just admit you don't actually have any good counter arguments
>these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny
Thats actually funny though lmao.
The democrats do this with EVERYTHING.
>”the Declaration of Independence states that all people are created equal”
>diversity is our strength
>”here on the left, we hold science in high regard”
>gender is a social construct
I could go on literally all day long
>Just admit that you're for a White Supremacist state. You're being intellectually dishonest otherwise, Magatards.
I am for that, but my post is specifically addressing the history of the Constitution. Certain states only agreed to the contract that is the Constitution because of the electoral college. When you change a promise you made that was the basis for forming a contract, the contract is void. Those states have a right to secede if you take away the electoral college through any process other than constitutional amendment. It appears the intent is to use an interstate compact. That is sufficient grounds for secession.
I'm not advocating tyranny of the majority via a racist state like you are.
The House is a part of the US Congress. It's the Senate that should be dissolved, like yesterday.
It's about satisfying the needs of most Americans, not some arbitrary geographic boundary.
I'm absolutely BTFO'ing every last one of you MAGAtards, and getting plenty of (You)s to boot!
that drawing is misleading. If the image on the left was the actual proposition, I'd be all for it and I wouldn't be alone here. Let the people vote directly on policy, cut out the middleman in congress
> but it would be complete chaos
I know
Nah some should be 3/5ths
>When you change a promise you made that was the basis for forming a contract, the contract is void.
The Confederates made the same argument. You're welcome to join them.
Just kill yourself. We are tired of arguing
Ok, faggot
>I'm not advocating tyranny of the majority via a racist state like you are
You are advocating a tyranny of niggers and mexcans.
>It's about satisfying the needs of most Americans, not some arbitrary geographic boundary.
How in the fuck is the racial majority not the needs of most Americans?
its not misleding, hans.
thats what exactly a democracy and republic is.
No it isn't. Why should the majority rule something as important as a national government when we don't apply that to literally anything else. Does majority rule on a nuclear submarine? Does majority rule in a private business? Does majority rule in a college classroom? Majority doesn't even rule in democracies - most people don't even vote. At best we heed the rule of the majority of the electorate, which represents a minority of the country. There is no good reason for the majority to rule anything of importance other than feels.
>libertarian
>defending absolute democracy shit
>Why should the majority rule?
Because the majority contributes to the nation, remove whites and America becomes a third world hellhole overnight. Blacks are so worthless they should be banned from voting completely as they are the non white group that contributes the least out of all non white groups in America.
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Fortunately, most Americans aren't racist hacks like you are. Whites will have to step down as unjust dominators, still benefiting from their violent racist policies. But that's a good thing.
Trust me when I say this, you do NOT want that
>It shouldn't be tipped so that the states with the smallest population have a greater say
that's not what it represents. it's a tradeoff between population size and state's rights. this retarded logic may as well be used to abolish the senate too, then. the electoral college mirrors our legislature for the same reasons it is structured the way it is. large states still get plenty of electoral delegates in the overall scheme, just like the house of representatives. but it also builds in a minimum delegacy so small states at least have one representative, akin to the structure of the senate. this balance is necessary and it makes sense in the context of our entire government. the united states' vast dynamism from state to state can only be adequately represented with a tradeoff structure like the electoral college, again no different from our bicameral legislatures applied at both the federal and state level.
>It's about satisfying the needs of most Americans, not some arbitrary geographic boundary.
>The House is a part of the US Congress. It's the Senate that should be dissolved, like yesterday.
Then you have no grasp on how a Republic works. It's people like you that only remind us why we need the EC.
Yep, and the founders were very, very concerned about tyranny of the majority. There is absolutely no doubt that this country was never, ever intended to be majority rule. In fact, a lot of the founders opposed the electoral college as being too close to direct majoritarian rule.
What they're trying to do with the interstate compact is shred the constitution and change the fundamental nature of the power structure. It is a tyrannical power grab. It is grounds for secession if they do it.
Come out and say that in public, you little racist coward. Thankfully, people like you get BTFO when they spout that shit in public.
You jumped the shark here. Solid bait effort so far, though. 6/10
Based and redpilled
>abolish the senate too
Now you understand how to tackle injustice.
OY VEY SO FEW RACISTS EXIST
OY VEY RACISTS ARE EVERYWHERE
Kike doublespeak. Pick one
Go ahead, amend the constitution. See how that goes.
Is logic and reason foreign to that leftard brain of yours? Also the american flag was designed by white people yet you support it making you a white supremacist.
Where are u faggot?
oh fuck off nigger. nice fucking bait
i'd say so
I would just like to remind you that Jow Forums is a public forum and everything you say on here will be archived forever
Good luck getting that amendment passed that basically makes California and New York run the country
America has never been about ‘majority rule’, lol. Majority rule is tyranny. That’s why we’re not a pure democracy, we’re a republic.
Honestly... more people might vote.
>Because the majority contributes to the nation
Non-sequitur. This is true of every nation, and yet not every nation is or was a democracy. How does the majority contributing to a nation justify their hand on that nation's government? Their contributions are limited to their areas of expertise. The farmer contributes by farming, the seamstress contributes by.. seaming. Etc. How do you logically get from farmers knowing how to farm to farmers knowing how governments should be run?
The human shit means WHITE RULE but it has to disguise its words to make it look like it has a human mind, and isnt a deranged anti white monster.
Kill yourself please fucking kill yourself