Just finished my first Dostoyevsky book Jow Forums. This is the book he wrote in 1870 about a group of communist conspirators inside Russia. The book is long--took me a few months to read it, and it really drags out at points. I've definitely read books that hold my interest better before but this book makes the characters more realistic than any book I've ever read. The characters wouldn't feel so real if the author didn't drag out so many monologues. You really feel like the characters have come to life, and then the author pulls you down a dark hole where you see these normal people being seduced into unethical acts, and eventuality getting manipulated into outright depraved actions.
There is the insanity of the communist plot of Verkhovensky. His ideal society is identical to that of Orwell's 1984, where people are encouraged to spy on each other for the state, and the state provides people outlets for their anger so they don't choose to rebel. Verkhovensky convinced a handful of people to all take part in murder, his plan being that all the conspirators will be completely loyal to the communist movement in order to keep the murder secret. It's like Jeffrey Epstein encouraging the elite to have sex with kids, which pushes them to be loyal to a satanic movement so as to keep their pedophilic activity secret.
Nothing is more important to the success of communism than a generation of ridicule of God and family. That is stressed a lot of times in the book.
I know I've seen a lot of you talk about this author and even this book before. Any other Dostoyevsky readers on here right now?
I love Dostoevsky I own the brothers Karamazov and letters underground. Good re-reading material.
Thomas Garcia
Good now read brothers karamazov and realize alyosha was right
Caleb Gomez
I've read crime and punishment, Brother Karamazo, and Notes from Undetground. Brothers is prob the best novel I've ever read. Planning on reading Posssesed and The Idiot in mear future. Also very interested in Orthodox Christianity. Recently read Nihilism by Seraphim Rose (nonfiction) and currently reading The Cosmic Mystery of Jesus Christ. Highly recommend Nihilism if you wanna understand atheism on a spiritual level.
Joseph Taylor
I enjoyed Crime and punishment the most. Really took you into the mind of a murderer.
Juan Jones
I'll add that the most satisfying part of the book was Liza and her literal cuck of a fiance getting killed. She was always saying one thing and doing another, claiming to be very moral but would allow group pressure to move her into doing shitty things, trying to talk smart but being a thot, and got her ass killed by a lynch mob in a situation she could obviously should had avoided but she walked into it out of a desire to be self righteous. If only that bitch of the governor's wife got killed too.
Christian Barnes
Took me 3 months to get through this book. I'm gonna wait on diving into another, equally long Dostoyevsky novel.
Sebastian Collins
I read this book. It is also sometimes titled "Demons." The main thing I took away from the book is that Dostoyevsky is brutally mocking both sides: the anarchists and the government/police are both depicted in a bad light.
Parker Torres
You could check out his "A Gentle Creature". Should be able to knock it off in a couple/few days.
Ryder Roberts
i got Crime and Punishment and Brothers Karamazov for a buck each. which should i real first?
Mason Sanchez
I took a course on Tolstoy and Dostoevsky in Uni. I was the only person in the class. Could read and discuss a lot of their works with a prof. I could spend a long time unpackaging what I learned here. Basically though they are giants. You will gain a lot of insight into the human condition through their notes. They might have been the high water mark.
I've got a copy of the possessed back at my parent's home in Canada. Sounds like a good read.
Nicholas Phillips
I've read Crime and Punishment, but that was two years ago. It's probably time I read another one of his novels, which do you lads recommend? Please only recommend one or two.
Michael Carter
There's this common line you see in history books and articles that "communism was meant to be done in an industrialized nation like Britain or Germany, it was unexpected for it to happen in Russia and not intended for Russia."
Thats a common misconception used to disguise the fact that the revolution in Russia was the result of a massive conspiracy. The reality is that there was decades of attempts at revolution in Russia, the revolution in Russia should had been expected
Also, to add on, which translations do you guys recommend?
Kayden James
You have to read Dostoyevsky in Russian to really understand and like his style of writing.
Josiah Jackson
In real life, the unwillingness of politicians to crack down is the greatest tool to the success of the revolutionaries
Caleb Torres
Spot on. If anyone follows vox day and wants to learn more about gammas, The Underground Man is the ultimate gamma.
Charles Cooper
STAVROGIN DID NOTHING WRONG
Brandon Moore
Also read Kuprin, The Pit. Not as boring and deep as Dostoevsky.
Jayden Wood
By the way The Possessed is a mistranslation the correct translation is Demons
Angel Myers
He raped a kid.
Caleb Ross
An interesting note is that Claire Sterling's book about Soviet sponsored international terrorism extensively quotes from the same edition of The Possessed which I read.
She quotes Dostoyevsky as an analogy to the terrorism being organized in Italy.
I've listened to the audiobook version of Crime and Punishment. I travel an hour plus on the road each way for work. There's never a dull moment because your always kept on the edge of your seat.
Tyler Peterson
>Notes from Underground has the potential to change your life have had it on my shelf for years. will pick it up right now. bye.
