i laid down the information on why circumcision is a fucked up thing to do to multiple friends who are likely to be having kids within the year.
Their responses are
>Im not convinced
>Im still doing it because its tradition and i think its the right thing.
>uncircumcised penis's look weird.
How the fuck do i change brainwashed peoples minds?
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To me it is such a clearly obvious immoral act. How can you cut into the genitals of children, causing them extreme trauma, and justify it? The argument that it is cleaner is clearly debunked.
They are saying it as a cope, imagine having to admit that you were mutilated as a child for a religious ritual of another race and promptly brainwashed, they are saving face by saying they are fine with it, and even want to spread the pain around by doing it to their kids to compensate for their loss
The foreskin is not just a random piece of skin. it has a function like everything else on the body that we are born with.
People that deny that it is wrong and hypocritical either cant think logically or are in straight denial.
it was super weird tonight. i went to a dinner a friend and his fiances wedding and he brought up the discussion of circumcision and how i was against it. i then had multiple people i had just met questioning me on it that were clearly closed off and hostile the idea that it is wrong. especially since one of them had just had two boys who were both circumcised and i didnt want to offend anyone. maybe i shouldnt have cared. It is denial and cope thinking that they couldnt do anything wrong.
i really hope that in the near future people will be coming out against this act more and more. this needs to be a mainstream issue. its such an easy fix for an obviously wrong thing to do.
I'm going to bed but I will post before I go to please push for cures for mutilated men as well as ending this. Whether it's foregen or whatever else.
Please let us be whole in this life. I cannot go through forever broken
I dont hang around anyone who is pro mutilation, only family who I think now realise its a mistake just not on the level as me.
im pretty sure hope is lost as far as that goes. i just dont want this to happen to others without their consent in the future.
Dont say that. It is the only reason I keep going. Besides with crispr and more advancing it could be a side effect that this stuff helps mutilated men even if it isnt the direct goal. Same goes for stem cell regeneration.
it sucks though cause its literally my best friend. im the best man at his wedding and i just gave him all this information and he was still for it. his fiance seemed more swayed so maybe i can get her ear and mind active.
oy vey but he's one of us! what is he doing?
I have dropped friends over this as well. I can't deal with it anymore. Its easier then being around them and realizing constantly youre in the presence of an evil stupid shitbag.
ethnic jews dont have to believe in archaic religious practices.
I'm not sure if I've ever met an ethnic Jew.
It just goes to show that emotional manipulation will get any idea farther than rigorous debate, especially as regards hoi polloi. The reasons why people do this have nothing to do with reason, except insofar as they rationalize their emotions. Hollywood (references in Fargo, Sex in the City for example), pornography, and their social circle support it, and doctors and other authority figures echo that support. Continue to meme that it's waning in popularity and that by the next decade, fewer than half of boys will but cut. Make them seem like the odd ones out, make them feel bad for depriving their children, make them know that it's sexual assault of minors etc etc.
Thats a good idea. and its true that it is falling in popularity so im not even lying. though i havent lied with anything i have told them.
They dont give counter arguments either. they just say their opinion is valid.
Brainwashing, like inbreeding, usually takes 3 generations to undo. But I think these days it could be undone a lot faster than just saying 50% will be sacrificed.
Its really far worse than sex but normies dont get it. Even here. Witness a retard like this
Last post I need to sleep. Please people push to find some cure for us victims
What you need to do is convince the woman. She is the decider. Get her defenses down in friendly conversation, maybe contact her to ask a question about the wedding or something, and when she is listening, just casually drop that you hope she will give it a second thought, as her baby does not NEED to go through that horrible pain and damage, it will not "make him normal", and after the birth the only person likely to see the baby's dick is the mom and she will be glad she didn't let them do it. It's merely profit for the jew doctor fucks (diplomatic substitution here). Now, bear in mind if they are not actively pregnant with a confirmed boy it isn't worth pushing for right now. Get your research ready for that day. Above all don't get heated; the more heated you get the more people push back...just to be contrarian dicks. People are funny like that.
>Continue to meme that it's waning in popularity and that by the next decade, fewer than half of boys will but cut
the sad part is I have a feeling that the biggest reason that circumcision is losing ground in the us is because of the shifting demographics in favor of hispanics.
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>because its tradition
Are your friends kikes?
that is sad
no just been brainwashed for years. the funny part is theyre usually really redpilled on shit. he talks about the jewish question all the time.
So like at the next democratic debate the winner will be like
YO ONIONS VAMANOS POR FAVOR DES JEW POGROMONOS Y LOS CHICKANOS DE CHILDRENAS VOY AL PERFECTIDO.
>forcing people to have normal intact genitals
Reading this made me fucking angry as shit. It's just a retarded teen.
I think it’s funny that so many Americans think it’s the right thing to cut their kids dicks up for asthetics. Most of the people in Australia that do it, do it because the father is cut and he wants his son to be the same. But even then I know cut fathers that don’t get it done to their kids.
but also has turned into like a pretty orthodox christian. at least his beliefs maybe not his behavior
>He
That's why. It is extremely easy to show mothers that circumcision is barbaric and unnecessary. A father wants a child in his image no matter how Jew'd that image is. You need to talk to the mothers anons
No matter what christcucks say they are the reason this ever started and their god commanding it makes it live rent free in their head even if its no longer "required" to be a christian
Every abrahamic needs to disappear
>massive nationwide genital mutilation done to males in us no one even questions it
>Women are oppressed tho
Fucking retard world
I don't buy it. After that kind of failure of a father, I don't see fit to beat up on the mother. It's his fault. It's clear and simple. He failed utterly to care for his own children and is not fit to ever touch another person in his failure of a life.
The absolute state of America
My dad talked my mom out of it. She said it was fashionable at the time, that's why she considered it.
If he is redpilled you could try to convince him that by circumcising his kids he is embracing kike culture
i almost feel like im the crazy person because i care about giving the information out. i dont want to be the overly passionate political person that pushes their views on others but like how can i not when it is so clearly wrong
>She said it was fashionable at the time, that's why she considered it.
You have to start slow and easy, and don't push them. You have to be patient. If you cast 100 seeds and just one of them takes root then you have been successful. Your own friends and family will be the last to listen to you.
>it's tradition
>jews slowly destroy any and all meaningful traditions in America under the idea that these traditions are outdated and oppressive
>Americans no longer have any reverence for tradition in their lives and mindlessly follow state indoctrination and consume mass media and manufactured pop culture instead
>"but I have to mutilate my newborn son's genitals! it's tradition!"
This is true, but you don't have to tell them that. It's not even a total lie of omission, as it's also dropped for whites, especially in places like the West Coast to lower than 1/3 of neonates. Notice how you reacted to my statement, which was truthful, with a rebuttal, which was likewise truthful. That is rational debate, whereas the very problem we are faced with is an irrational mass of parents perpetuating a cycle of abuse. For this ritual to meet a swift end, their hearts must be targetted before their minds.
I feel you fren. My family knows never to discuss anything remotely related to politics, history or current events because I get so impassioned. Which is frustrating, because these are the only things I like talking about, who gives a fuck about sportsball and tv shows.
And we have to go after the doctors as well. It's not just a "feel good" solution. If your doctor is a child molester, then get his name down and expose him for the pedophile child molester that he is.
This is why peaceful places like Jow Forums exist. It's merely an exchange of evidence and information.
i try to put a thread like this up every night but more often i feel like im preaching to the choir. what other ways can we pass this kind of information in mass anonymously?
I don't feel the need to by anonymous. The FBI came and talked to me before. If they want to talk to me again, I'd like a list of actual child molesters to share with them.
lol what the fuck did they want?
they're not wrong, they probably don't want their kids to have nasty anteater dicks.
They wanted to know if I could help them find some child abusers near me. Sorry, guys, I guess I don't run with that crowd. But at that time I hadn't been thinking about genital mutilation.
bait. i remember thinking like that though
Ask them if they'd like it if their eye lids were removed without anesthetics (yeah, it's done without anesthetics because a newborn can't tolerate the chemicals)
WHEN IS THE THOR JEW GONNA LAY THE HAMMER OF MOSES DOWN ON THOSE GOD DAMN ZIONISTS ALREADY!?
That's a very good redpill thread regarding this topic we had recently, it contains a lot of infographics and links to studies, I suggest you read it carefully, I think you'll find everything you need there:
from the thread I just linked
thanks man im about to fall asleep but im happy that threads like this are becoming more popular
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punch in the face
reality isn't bait, sorry
>Over 100 newborns die each year in the USA, mostly from loss of blood and infection (Bollinger 2010; Van Howe 1997 & 2004).
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medicalxpress.com
so you were afraid of talking to the guy who copes so hard that he had to mutilate his two children to feel normal?
Honestly any form of circumcision is disgusting
Its LITERALLY worse than grabbing the newborn baby and raping it
That is objective undeniable truth
>Was circumcised as a kid
>Learned about it's true nature as an adult
>Mom apologizes to me and says how she remembers hearing me cry from a separate floor of the hospital and how at the time she vowed if she ever had another son she wouldn't get him circumcised
>Dad blows me off and refuses to hear anything about it because he was circumcised and he wont be having any more kids anyway and doesn't need to know
By the way I've been stretching off and on the past couple years. I did it more consistently back in like 2017, and had some really noticeable results with the skin on my shaft actually gliding when erect. Before stretching my dick was basically a meat dildo when erect, and at full mast the tightness actually hurt.
I stopped for a year and a half just out of laziness, and have picked up again recently.
Unfortunately the skin of my shaft is getting dry and red from my tugging my hand. Also the residual foreskin on the bottom of the shaft is much longer than the residual foreskin on the top, making me wonder if my stretching grip is wrong.
The murder rate in the US and the death rate because of circumcision is identical (5/100,000), but you also have to take into account the number of those who don't die during circumcision but get crippled for life (loss of complete penis, necrosis, infection+amputation etc)
it is fucked up but it wont help the argument destroying my social life.
>Im still doing it because its tradition
Show them the part in the Talmud where it says that jews must circumcise slaves
amputation, torment and rape is always worse than just rape
it actually is waning though
went from 60%circumcision rate to 30% in less than a decade and the most determining factor is whether the father is circumcised
this decade will mark the end of circumcision.
>it's tradition
it's business
in brainwashing, the key is to stress them out as much as possible.
this works in reverse, as well, in deprogramming someone, you must stress them out as part of the process or use their stress when it appears, whatever...
read up on brainwashing. lots of books out there, including textbooks
>DO NOT LET DOCTORS BE ALONE WITH YOUR BABY SON. THEY PERFORM CIRCUMCISIONS WITHOUT THE PARENTS' KNOWLEDGE.
Although circumcision shouldn't be done if there's no medical justification for it (ie phimosys), denying cut has no advantages whatsoever with respect to uncut is untrue and absolutely retarded.
Circumcision increases risk of erectile dysfunctions.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
If too much skin is removed in circumcision, it can make the penis smaller since the dong needs some skin to expand during an erection:
altermd.com
drgreene.com
Circumcision does not lower the risk of AIDS.
Circumcision is more hygienic. Who the heck doesn't clean their penis? It's a three second job you do when you shower so this is not a valid argument. Women produce 10 times as much smegma as men.
Circumcised foreskin sold to cosmetic manufacturers for profit:
voices.yahoo.com
Erectile dysfunction 4.5 times more likely to occur if you're circumcised
thewholenetwork.org
im going to bed now but i see a lot of people other than me are passionate about this as well. i hope that they continue to spread this information. spam it on sites like this. and bring up the conversation with others when you can.
You sure has sources, retard
>225956070
what's the big deal goy
it's just a scratch
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mothers who have their baby boy's genitals mutilated deserve to have their faces eaten off by pitbulls.
Only extremeley low-class people need to worry about diseases like that. Just don't bang whores, problem solved.
I'm against circumcision retard, but I'm also against disinformation. std transmission is significantly lower among cut because skin is more keratinized (same reason why cut loses sensitivity) and microlesions are less common. I'm not going to spoon feed you, look it up fucktard.
You do what they ask for: You hunt them down and cut all the skin off their heads. When logic and reason fail, you always have a strong arm and three feet of steel. :^)
Imagine willingly organizing the mutilation of your childs dick. The absolute state of mutts. E N S L A V E D.
>Refusing to speak the truth on the subject of child mutilation because it inconveniences your social life
Condemning the wicked is a righteous act. Evil only survives through the inaction of good men. You are unironically a disgusting and pathetic coward.
better chop off your entire dick, then you don't have to worry at all. Speaking of which, chop off your head as well so you don't have to worry about brain cancer.
Your friends are idiots and their offspring deserve mutilated genitals
I'm on your side. I'm saying lowering the risk of stds aren't worth the surgery.
Aids death per 100,000 are below 1 for developed countries, deaths because of a fucked up circumcision are 5/100,000 and people who get crippled for life because of circumcision are probably 20-30/100,000
I know, it wasn't criticism, just an addition (should have marked it more clearly as such)
Their main reason for sexually mutilating their children here also fails since circumcision is on such a sharp decline among the young here.
Now their kids will not only have to deal with a degloved penis, but also getting harassed for it most of their life.
What a weird fucking thread... ima have to do some fact checking later, but seems I have learned something. Hopefully won't ever need this info though. Adoption or bust.
if you think that will help youre an idiot and the reason why ideas dont take hold. id rather try to slowly show them why its wrong than completely turn them off by calling them evil
Graphic pictures of raw recently circumcised infacts. Videos of them screaming. Circulate them on Facebook. Put it to mothers that they’re insensitive monsters doing it to helpless children. Make women change their minds on the topic using emotion and men will white knight the cause for them
what arguments did you use? maybe you used shitty arguments?
No anesthetics, goy
enjoy your crippling