Serious question here. What would be considered White. I have lurked here for about a year. And yes I have swallowed many red pills here especially concerning the 2nd world war, Jews and White genocide etc. But what would people here consider white because I see many people here conflicted on this matter. Some people say dark hair isn't white etc. But Hitler, Goebbels and Hess etc had dark hair. It's really confusing and it doesn't just seem like Jewish meme flags are buying into this kind of belief.
By the way. This thread is dedicated to Rudolf Hess. A man that parachuted out of a plane in 1941 to reach British ambassadors to talk about peace between the British empire and the German Reich.
Native European. >Some people say dark hair isn't white etc. They're called trolls. Ignore them.
Benjamin Clark
All of them except for the one on the far left. That one looks black.
Carter Myers
White = European phenotype, from Sicily to Sweden, from Portugal to the Komi Republic in Russia.
The people claiming mediterraneans aren't white just mean something else with the term "white", likely a relic of pre-WW2 american racism which was Central/Northern European-centric and quite retarded too.
Benjamin Kelly
Is this person pic related White? Why is he or isn't he?
So by that logic people from Chad and Central Asia are White? According to the map.
Charles Harris
Nothing is considered white because just one white woman or man sleeping with a black is enough to destroy anything of race consideration
Chase Cooper
>Chad >NOT White
Hunter Garcia
Pink nipples = white Brown nipples = not white
Juan Thompson
They are NOT white. Their male lines were once white when some bronze age Europeans showed up and impregnated lots and lots of women, followed by their sons aided by superior gentetics also impregnating lots of nigger women and so on and so on, however by the 10th generation, only around 200 years less than 5% of the total time, they would've been less than 0.1% European. Now devide that by 2^190 and you have the value for how white they are. Americans over here accepting the 0.00000000000001% as brothers.
> What is considered "White" Unmixed European blood.
Xavier Smith
Hess was not white, he was German, Aryan.
White is an identity term that is only useful in the New World, where all the rootless Euro-descendants have been mixing with each other for centuries. "White" is a useless universialist identity fully embraced by the christcucks and the jews - as it makes them able to blend in. Perhaps it had the potential to be a viable identity at one point in time, but it certainly does not have so now.
Get a real fucking identity fucking anglos, or at least stop pushing your shit on the rest.
Do you know why there is no data for Taino Cubans? Because my great-grand father on my mother's side helped wipe them out down to the last man.
Jaxson Morgan
BASED
Gavin Smith
He unironically looks Scandinavian, although very ugly.
Gavin Gonzalez
It´s a totally wrong defintion you have. And this is a anti european board pretending to be pro european but it isn´t. It´s full of bullshit and people who hate europeans and it is them making up these idiotic things to begin with..
In reality there is no confusion whatsoever about this issue.
'white' stems from USA which was a description of certain west european ethnic groups that made up the base of it. That´s all it ever meant. So instead of them calling themselves british american or german americans they had a pan european identity called 'white'. Hence this term is unique for americans.
What people therefore mean when they say 'white' is certain west european groups. They are not talking about random people with light skin. Since you have light skinned arabs light skinned asians, even light skinned central europeans.
As for natsoc germany which is constantly invoked. That was an idea of a pan germanic empire. As in you had german empire, and then the germans wanted other germanic tribes as part of that. People like the dutch/netherlands, and danes/denmark, and swedish and norwegians and a few others, are considered germanic tribes. They all border germany. They are not identical to germans but more similar to ethnic germans than anybody else.
It was a desire for a pan germanic federation who would be isolationistic to refuse mass immigration, and only germanic people could be citizens of it, that was what hitler wanted in the peace time. And much propaganda to demonize it is created in the last 70 years to try to insinuate things into it that had little to do with that but was because of war various other things happened.
Europeans can have both dark hair and brown eyes and light skin, quite a few of them do. The ethnic groups in europe are different from eachother. And tend to be clustered in the various nations in europe.
Jack James
True, every word. Except the part about it being a "federation".
Oliver Sanders
continued.
What european identitarians want is to preserve their own people in their own country and are against mass immigration.
It is horseshit in other words to pretend as if someone is trying to create a pan european identity by merging all europeans together or to only promulgate a specific european phenotype in europe. Infact both what hitler is was against and what european identitarians today, different from hitler, is this pan europeanism which blurs the lines between ethnic groups..
This is what has happened to the 'white' label in USA which was pan european to begin with. And europeans are not pan european, they got their own countries..
But in USA the 'white' label has been blurred by insincere people who try to claim that it didn´t mean what it did, which it meant british, irish germans and a few others which made up the core group of what an ethnic american was.
That´s what an ethnic american was. For most of US's existance till 1965 those groups made up 85-90% or so of population 7-10% negro and then x% amount of others in tiny tiny amounts.
So it doesn´t really matter what someone considers white and these things. Because it´s horseshit to begin with if you haven´t first said that it means european. That´s what it meant in USA.
Eli Green
>Native European So greekroaches and other balkan niggers are white? Hell no.
Andrew Perry
>True, every word. Except the part about it being a "federation". No, the greater germanic realm is essentially the translation of the gross germaniches reich. Each nation would be be part of it, so it very much was supposed to be an isolationistic federation. Was not a desire to take over other countries to make them germanic and wipe out their people. These lies are made after the fact and based on misrepresentations of things that happened due to a conflict between particularly germany and russia, where obviously there were some countries in the middle of those two. They then pretend germany was trying to take over all europe, slaughter all other europeans and then basically have only people allowed to live germanic people.
When really bolshevik russia was massive threat, the bolsheviks had tried to stage similar revolution in germany. And hitler claimed jews were behind the bolsheviks and said they threaten western and eastern europe. So he wanted to topple the bolshevik unelected government who had come to power by butchering millions of ethnic russians.
They in 1939 tried to annex finland, opening up to attack germany via sweden who would be next. Hitler considered swedes germanic tribes. And so this was a problem.
At same time brits and others claimed this germanic commonwealth essentially was an evil idea, and refused any peaceful negotiations, would not allow them to negotiate with the other germanic countries. And instead threaten war. In order to prevent british and french attack, they occupy netherlands and denmark and several other countries since otherwise they could use those countries armies and force them to attack germany directly, so that germany had to bomb and kill the very people they wanted in this federation/commonwealth.
So lots of things happened in that regard that is important to understand. But the desire was really a germanic federation to stop mass immigration and non germanic influence in those countries.
Elijah James
>So greekroaches and other balkan niggers are white? Hell no. They are greek, and balkan people. See this is the problem even some germans have been mislead and gaslighted by boards like this to using the same stupid 'white' label as they do in USA.
If they are even germans those who are saying it. This board is a gigantic anti european psyop to try to demonize european people in the various european countries. To preserve their own people in their own countries, and also for americans to preserve their own people in their own country. By constantly talking about nazi's and who is 'white'.
Jayden Price
>What is considered "White" A White person is a human being of solely native European ancestry; or a human being who, if they have non-European antecedents, is nonetheless of a physical and genetic makeup that is within the range typical of people of solely European ancestry; or, the child of two Whites.
Noah Gonzalez
I've found people who ask "who is White" really hate this statement, because it answers them in terms that they can't refute.
So they usually just ignore the statement since they can't refute it or poke holes in it.
Liam Hernandez
>No, the greater germanic realm is essentially the translation of the gross germaniches reich. Each nation would be be part of it, so it very much was supposed to be an isolationistic federation. Was not a desire to take over other countries to make them germanic and wipe out their people The Third Reich was still in way similar to a federation, planned or in practice. Apparently you do not know what that word means. One could even postulate that you do the same mistake as op does where he believes all Europeans are white, while you believe all unions are federations.
Lucas Sullivan
>The Third Reich was still not in any way
Xavier Jenkins
This. You're only white if you and your ancestors are native to europe - anyone who says European group X arent white because of Y is a race-baiting kike or mutt
Ethan Allen
There´s no real confusion about it, it´s an attempt to demonize it and make it wrong for the various european countries in europe. To be against mass immigration of specifically non european ethnic groups like africans and middle easterners orientals and others. And to associate that kind of notion with hitler and national socialism. And claim they are 'white supremacists' and all these nonsense terms they come up with..
When in fact every single country who fought in wwII on whatever side, none of them were interested in having tons of non ethnic people of their particular group come into their country and demographically topple them via mass immigration.
Every single one had very strict immigration policies. Far stricter than any country today. Be it france, britain or USA or any other country for that matter.
So that kind of thing was really not what this was about whatsoever.. It was brits did not like the idea of a greater germanic realm/federation. So they get france involved in trying to topple natsoc germany. And meanwhilst germany was wanting to stop bolshevism in russia from taking over eastern europe and threatening western europe. And the other nations got involved in that conflict by being essentially in the way. Because european countries are quite many and they border eachother. For example the reason why germany occupied so many nations right next to it, was to avoid being attacked from all sides by the british for example. And the reason they went into poland had partly to do with russia, but also that they were upset about a treaty that had left tons of germans stranded in poland with borders redrawn. And terrible diplomacy between germany and britain in particular, lead to there being no compensation for germany losing land to other countries by that treaty and also having all german ore colonies confiscated..
So a shitload of reasons for why wwII even happened to begin with.. It´s far more complicated than is made out to be.
Elijah Adams
>The Third Reich was still in way similar to a federation, planned or in practice. Apparently you do not know what that word means. One could even postulate that you do the same mistake as op does where he believes all Europeans are white, while you believe all unions are federations. Ok well what i mean is, whatever it is you would like to call it, is those nation states work together very tightly knit in cooperation with eachother. More than they would do with other countries. Since they each were considered germanic. And then only germanics could be citizens of those countries, you could live there without being of germanic ancestry. But with some restrictions to rule out other ethnic influence on those countries.
If you were not germanic and live in those countries and work and do oither things, You could not vote, you could not participate in politics, you could not participate in lawgiving, and you could also not run national media. This was a thing only citizens could do who would need ahnenpass to show they were of germanic origin. This principle was also in play when NSDAP declared jews in germany non citizens. Because they had a situation where jews owned 7 out of 9 german national newspapers. And were doing propaganda against hitler and NSDAP. Calling them all sorts of things. And NSDAP saw that as a non german influence in germany. And basically revoke their citizenship in such a way that they could not participate in politics or these sort of things.. That´s the point of why that was attempted. Then ofcourse war is declared and then the jews are sent to work camps to help with war effort, and all these things happen so fast that essentially the war was extremely short and extremely many things were happening in a very short amount of time. That weren´t supposed to have happened. The german natsoc/nsdap did not even expect the conflict to be so wild as it was.
Nathan Miller
> again with this deliberately obtuse shit from fedoralords Easy explanation why that's retarded. > green in pic has outliers where it seamlessly blends into yellow and light blue > therefore green as a whole doesn't exist Same logic.
And the whole reason why hitler and nsdap wanted this kind of germanic union, realm or federation or commonwealth or whatever you want to call it, was to protect the germanic peoples, is that marxist jews again hitler blames many things on marxist jews as he blames the revolution in russia on jews etc.
But he points to various statements by people saying they want to have mass immigration to germany and europe in general, and to basically mix germans and other europeans with africans orientals and others to create some kind of future planetary man. This is what you can read in books like kalergi's practical idealism, and he wrote many more, but particularly that one penned in 1925 was really a big part of why hitler got so insenced. He state in that book both praise of bolshevik jews, aswell as that to create this planetary man the eruopean ethnic groups needs to be mixed together and mixed also with africans and others to create a future man free of prejudice or whatever. This ofcourse means the germanic ethnic groups would be annihilated or changed through that process beyond recognition.. to be less ethnically similar. Since in kalergis and others eyes ethnically similar was not good for the man of the future, the planetary man..
That´s like saying kill germans by mixing them with everybody. That´s what it does, germans as you know that type would cease to exist. Obviously this did not please hitler and NSDAP at all to hear of such plans, which he refer to in mein kampf as the jewish marxist plan.
And this is unfortunately EXACTLY what is happening to france britain and USA and other countries right now.
Hunter Reyes
White is a colonial era classification, in order to separate the european colonists from the natives or imported labour. It only really matters in the post colonial world because of america. Beyond this historical context being white is practically meaningless.
Bentley Mitchell
>Serious question here. What would be considered White. It depends on who you're talking to. I take it to mean either "generally European" or "predominately European" according to the American circumstance. This exact question has thrown the white American into an identity crisis. The majority of us are German Irish Polish Norwegian whatever the fuck Americans. None of us express the characteristics of those nations beyond whatever traces exist latent in the blood. We don't know those cultures in any intimate legitimate way, we don't speak the languages, etc. We are still evidently different from the blacks or Asians or Mexicans, and we know ourselves according to those clear differences. Since we are group according to Différance, there is no real cohesion like you see with the other races here. It doesn't help that the white American is an individualist race. I mention all of this to explain that we can't even properly/collectively self-identify because we all have our own individual opinions regarding what we are in the first place. The understanding of "white" here on Jow Forums is a bit more cohesive but normal whites that you deal with day to day have almost no racial consciousness/racial self-awareness due to our aforementioned individualism. We're already vaguely defined and then we're encouraged by the competitive environment to atomize further. We are hardly a nation since we share so little aside from whatever is different in us from the blacks and the rest of them. We are more a subculture than a legitimate nation. It is a shit situation but that is how I understand it.
>White is a colonial era classification, in order to separate the european colonists from the natives or imported labour. A commie meme flag that made sense. Yes look at for instance USA colonialists. They setup shop building a new country on a different continent that let´s say is not european.. So if you have slight darker skin in that context, or brown eyes or whatever.. Which many europeans have including in germany. Then if they come from mexico, they are not even your group whatsoever. And there were ofcourse africans there too. So then retaining your group becomes very important.. Because the only way you can get more, is to import them from europe. Otherwise you are stuck with how many you are.. And the people ethnic to american continent, well there are lots of them obviously. So then white became an important concept in USA to hold on to the integrity of your ethnic group. If you became mixed and you are colonialist, then they might be if they half mexican, they might say well i am half mexican, let all mexicans in!
Therefore they obsessed with it in USA and canada and australia even more over this than even people did in europe.. Because if you are european and you have brown hair and brown eyes, doesn´t mean you are not european.
But it´s because plenty of people but of total different ethnic group around world, can have appearances very similar to europeans. BUT THEY ARE VERY DIFFERENT... And ofcourse in america, that became very important therefore.
But if you look at it from european perspective you had to look at it in the clustered regions. That is where natsoc and the greater germanic realm came in for example, north west europeans almost all of them are germanic tribes, even a slight part of the british, then it doesn´t matter so much if they have darker hair or brown eyes, because they are still germanic tribes.
Jack Fisher
Hitler literally used the term "white race." Nice choice of memeflaggotry, considering.
Easton Thomas
cont.. Only the most northern tribes had a high percentage blue eyes and light hair. Since they live closer to the poles in low uva. British and scandinavians certainly are part of that. British settlers in USA ofcourse ended obsessing endlessly of it.
Where germans could have brown hair and brown eyes or brown hair and blue eyes, or ofcourse also light hair and blue eyes but it was exaggerated stereotype desu. And then nazi's tried to foster that specific phenotype aswell. And the whole bullshit that actually hurt germanics, trying to create some notion of an legendary aryan master race and hyperborea and all that shit, and started lobbing people like persians and anyone with blue eyes and light hair into that. Which is precisely like lobbing a light skinned mexican in as european settler ingroup in USA. Makes no fucking sense.
But what he was doing was like say why should dutch and danes and norwegians and swedes and austrians get into federation with germany. Well they were 'aryan'. Well he started off right, they are germanic tribes, and then he did that aryan bullshit.. That´s like a pan germanic shit where you lob other ethnic groups in as germanic.. It´s like hitler what the hell are you doing at this point.. You don´t want this pan europa and then you start lobbing in persians and others as germanics in this aryan description.
But a germanic league of nations or whatever i could easily understand especially with all the stuff that was going on. Also since germany had all ore colonies confiscated and clay taken away, they kind of need other nations to help them out a bit, who better than their germanic neighbourghs, so even from that position does it make sense..
But then ofcourse britain for various reasons don´t want that, get france involved against germany, and we went through rest how germany then occupy denmark and netherlands and several other countries, and poland to get the germans back in poland. And also to prepare against russia.
Hudson Reed
white means northern european protestant and thats it. if you think it has anything to do with skin color or haplogroups youre fucking retarded, like 19th century phrenologist pseudoscience retarded.
racism itself is a joke of a concept, its like the male version of horoscopes.
Parker Rivera
Not you achmed
Owen Brooks
>Hitler literally used the term "white race." Nice choice of memeflaggotry, considering. Yes that´s because he got into that aryan bullshit, after he initially started off just saying germanic tribes for that particular regional league of nations that he wanted. But then he got into that whole thing about aryan master race and all that shit.
This white thing is horseshit.. It´s like saying there´s a brown race. No, it doesn´t fucking exist.. It´s different groups. Or a black race, no africans are different aswell from eachother, and you can have extremely dark skinned indians, are they black too?
It´s nonsense the memeflag is right, it´s a colonial construct. But what it refers to is that they were specific european groups in an area where they were specifically non european groups.. That they needed to then ensure their ethnic groups integrity towards so they wouldn´t get a bunch of half and half who would then decide, just let in everybody.. Right they run for office and say i am half that, let in tons of those i am also half off..
Jayden Morris
I'm not arguing over it, just observing the irony.
Ian Walker
>racism itself is a joke of a concept, its like the male version of horoscopes. Racism as a concept is a joke. The claim that i turn into ethnic chinese if i move to china, and that an african and a chinaman are identical. And if they don´t think so they are racist and that´s somehow a bad thing. It´s bunch of horseshit.
Ofcourse ethnic groups are different from eachother. But those differences are much more than just skin color, and you can have different ethnic groups have similar type of skintone and haircolor and eyecolor aswell, and they´d be totally different. Because it´s totally different breed..
So it mostly makes sense to go by region or country. This is why it gets so fucking confusing with mass immigration, who are even of my particular group and who isn´t. So you don´t even know if your own group is being eroded in your own country or not. Except when you have ethnic groups such as like, a european and tons of africans come to europe. Then it´s pretty obvious to tell. But in many cases it can be very confusing. Especially when you mix a little bit, very hard to tell differences except in behaviour and various other things.
White = of Ashkenazi descent White supremacy is a scourge that must be eradicated
Brayden Ramirez
>White supremacy is a scourge that must be eradicated Stop using that stupid term. It´s like if hungarians don´t want tons of africans and arabs in their country they are white supremacists.. Or if polish people don´t or if russian people don´t or if anyone don´t.. that concept makes no sense, neither does white nationalism, neither does the other ones. It´s just demonization so they don´t have to explain how it makes sense that hungary should just take a kajillion africans till actual hungarians don´t exist in hungary anymore.
See if they have to explain that, then you quickly get to a point where nobody should legitimately be for mass immigration whatsoever.
Both racism and white supremacy are idiotic concepts that are never challenged. THE ENTIRE CONCEPT is nonsense. That a chinaman is no different from african and if you say so you are racist. But they have to say they are identical otherwise they have to admit that mass immigration is destructive as fuck for the ethnic group which nation the immigrants come to.
Christopher Baker
>pre-ww2 american racism this is real racism though. this bullshit about "no more brother wars" or "europe for europeans" is a complete bullshit made up in the past 10 years on internet forums.
the only people who ever gave a fuck about racial bullshit were
1.white americans in the 19th century who thought anyone who wasnt a protestant anglo/german wasnt white. it didnt matter if you were italian, spanish, irish, polish ESPECIALLY because you were catholic.
2. literally the nazis, and even to them they switched up their racial ideology and made exceptions for "honorary aryans" and whatever bullshit whenever it was convenient for them, because they knew it was bullshit in the first place.
its kinda pathetic when I see mediterranen guys trying dick-ride nazis on the internet because they want to be in the white club. "whiteness" only exists as an idea.
Andrew Ramirez
Red Panels are beyond based. Mineralyeet is good, but there's no comparison to RP. Wonder what happened to him?
Joseph Long
Blonde hair and blue eyes, or racially Germanic.
Whites are really just Germans. Study history and notice England == Saxons. France == Franks. Northern Italy == Lombard.
And no I’m not white in that sense. I just notice a pattern where people are accepted as white and where people are not.
Spain is not. Greece is not. Eastern Europe generally no. Put 2 & 2 together to understand what that means.
It’s just whether your blood is German.
William Jones
>polish ESPECIALLY because you were catholic. what if you were Russian and orthodox
>the only people who ever gave a fuck about racial bullshit were Stop your own bullshit right there. Everybody cared of not being overrun by tons of foreigners. Everybody had strict immigration policy, didn´t matter what side of the pond you were on. Only fucking reason some cared less is when you are like 99.99% monoethnic or something, this is not whatsoever an issue to you.
The entire concept of 'racism' is made up to where an hungarian is like a chinaman or an african is like a frenchman. So just let tons of french into your country how dare they say they are not ethnic frenchmen when they live in france.
The idiocy is brought forth when someone today complain about that majority of london for example or amsterdam, is non dutch or non british. And idiots like you say >muh you a waycist n shhiieet You fucking moron, you do this to not admit they are being overrun by foreigners. Defensive wars to keep invaders out was fought by literally everyone.
So yeah if your nation is 99.9% monoethnic you don´t really give a shit if there´s some african or some arab or whatever living in your country.
Dylan Perry
Unironically this
Thomas Ross
That makes no sense though
Cooper Mitchell
Nobody on pol has ever studied anthropology so all these faggots say shit that comes first into their mind.Also there is no such a thing as a "white race".There are races IN Europe like dinaric or nordic, the important is to be at least Caucasian (very white skin, pink nipples, and european body features like straight nose long limbs and body naturally lean)
Med guys don’t dick ride... ever .... everyone copies Meds and that goes for art, culture, fashion, of today and yesterday
Meds are forced to click up with whites BECAUSE of black and browns not getting the difference. So if I’m white to my enemy, what the fuck I’m going to care of a real white person doesn’t consider me white?
Justin Kelly
being of wholy European descent= white
David Brown
Hitler's job was to say one thing and do another. The whole Nazi thing was a psyop. That they wanted racial purity, and create a myth that they'd do unspeakable things in its name, so that it later could be demonized. Hitler, Churchill, Roosevelt were all working for Rothschild. Nazis weren't standing up for the Gentiles, they were there to destroy them. Americans (mostly of German descent) firebombing their brethren in service to the AshkeNAZIs. It worked remarkably well, and Hitler himself was rewarded with a nice retirement in Argentina.
>A White person is a human being of solely native European ancestry; or a human being who, if they have non-European antecedents, is nonetheless of a physical and genetic makeup that is within the range typical of people of solely European ancestry; or, the child of two Whites.
So Albanians and Ashkenazi Jews are white. Thanks for clearing it up!
