The Truth About the Alt-Right

Honestly, I think the Richard Spencer/TRS/TWS core Alt-Right people were Duginist Eurasianist/Fayist Archeofuturists who were supported by the Russian intelligence apparatus (because their ideology of pan-Europeanism would’ve been a counterpoint to the NATO Atlanticist alliance and led to a Slavic control of the European peninsula and mainland) and seized on existing white supremacist dissident movements like Iron March to promote their cultural/political agenda. Then they got found out by someone in the American intelligence apparatus. They got honeypotted into that Unite the Right March in Charlottesville and got threatened with serious fed time for inciting a riot. In that way they were compromised by the Feds. And have since been infiltrated and functioned as informants and honeypots for an SPLC-/ADL-supported federal law enforcement operation to gather extensive information on anyone sympathetic to white nationalism/supremacy.

Change my mind.

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Anglin is the figurehead. Weev is the brains and discipline behind DS.

Which is also full of anti-social people with extensive criminal records.

Where does the AR go from here? Or does it go from here?

Spoken like a true Boomer.
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March ever forwards to what now?

I don’t see how you get a new society. Ethnonationalism didn’t sell well.

I don't march. Marching is useless.
Marching gets you harassed, doxxed, surveiled and put on a list.

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You're not a nation. American is not an ethnicity.

I meant figuratively. I know no one with an IQ greater than room temperature or who isn’t a Fed would march publicly now.

Yes. That probably a big part of why it didn’t catch on. So what’s next? Is there a next or is it a fundamentally compromised movement?

Obviously nothing will happen if everyone has the newest phone and a full stomach.

Did Russians make this?

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Historically, revolutions tended to happen with epicenters in urbanized areas with concentrated populations and severe deprivation. But there are exceptions. America has had at least three of them. But is revolution even really necessary? Is there a Fabian-solution for the far right?

You tell me, champ. Could be a LARPer.

What are you exactly trying to achieve?
You need to have a simple, easy to understand goal.

The Alt-Right was trying to achieve an ethnostate in America and a pan-European alliance in Eurasia. At the present moment, neither seems achievable. You might as well be talking about time travel or Dyson spheres. It seems so remote.

A nation in which whites had dignity and weren’t subjected to ritual abuse seems unlikely at this point.

Move out of the way and let the others fight among themselves.
They're ripping each other to shreds just fine.

That’s easy for me to do but there are too many others who don’t have the sense to do that. What message would
convince them to get out of the middle of it? These are sweet, easily exploitable people who just want to help those that are different than them and are too naive to realize they’ll be ground up in the process.

Is they won't listen they'll have to feel.

I've posted this before, and I'll post it again. This should be required reading, at this point: hammerandanvilmyblog.wordpress.com/2011/05/30/a-brief-history-of-the-white-nationalist-movement/

It’s a staggering number of people and a staggering amount of collateral damage to have to live with.

I’ve never seen this. Thanks.

My thread yesterday pointed out that you would need a lot of bullets and mass graves. I haven't seen much analysis of the numbers yet.

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You're welcome, user. One share at a time.

The blacks and mestizos will manage.

America was founded by and for anglo teutonic whites who failed to keep out the Jews, Irish, Italians, and other subraces. The "american ethnicity" is square jawed whites.

The whites may not.

Then they're English and that's that. There is no American ethnicity.

I could hardly care about the fence sitters.

autistic purity spiraling is our achilles heel, stop it

>The Alt-Right was trying to achieve an ethnostate in America and a pan-European alliance in Eurasia.
No, the Alt-Right's only goal was to normalize white identity in America. That's it.

>It seems so remote.
Literally everyone involved understood that, though. That was always presented as a (very very)long term goal.

So what are the intermediate goals?

Think the plan was
1. normalize white identity
2. form white political parties
3. ???
4. white ethnostate

But seriously, they were pretty honest about not being able to give recommendations in the intermediate terms that diverted from Trump's platform other than being racially explicit. That was one of the main complaints with it. Imho both viewpoints were valid, but I sided with the Alt-Right, and still do, really.

all the trs guys are on facebook, i don't know exactly what happened but a lot of their real life, non-internet friends have been sharing rumors that jayoh is a fed informant & to stop talking to him the last two days.

Also that he rode on the back of a military drone in Africa and redpilled Parliament Funkadelic on anarchocapitalism.

No that was jayoh himself

>got threatened with serious fed time for inciting a riot.
Doubt.jpg. I honestly think the justice system isn't that bad yet. UTR was fully legal, permitted, and peaceful in nature. Dicky just wanted to get amped up on Nietzscheisms and vogue in his Depeche Mode outfit. Yes a Mr. Fields spilled his spaghetti but this is protected 1A stuff. Antifa were the ones that came to use violence.

Now in 2027 the justice system could be that pozzed.

>MUH RUSSIA
Imagine Israel and China completely controlling your political system so the people paid by them cry about a has-been nation run by a peasant regent who has no right over the Tsardom

Unironically true and correct. An interesting addendum to this narrative can be found reading between the lines of what Jason Jorjani said about the private military think-tank that set him up to be discredited after enticing him with money to set up the AltRight corporation with Spencer. If the whole movement wasn't disingenuous from the start, it was at the very least infiltrated and subverted early in its existence

Perhaps. Now I’m back to speculating, but it could be that the intel community knew of some actual collusion with foreign actors and threatened them with those charges, and agreed not to pursue them if they turnt state’s evidence.

Yes but they're using these stories and the one about Jayoh having flown at 400 ft with some anarchists he just met to central America to escape the feds in the dead of night(like James Bond) to infer/imply that he is a fed.
It would be a basses story, but sadly the it people who "believe" it are disingenuous faggots.

eh i actually know these guys. i've always had an uneasy feeling and some of them have really weird or hmmm? pasts.

No jayoh claiming to be a fed is why people are calling him a fed

Lol. No. Just no. You're just making shit up. Stop making shit up.

None of this shit happened. It was all made up. I dunno why, someone claimed he was calling in to ancap podcasts as characters from a novel he was writing. I don't know. But the stories are so over-the-top that it's legit hard to believe that people take them seriously at all. I don't think they actually other than to take potshots at TRS.

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Hard to deny at this point. I think there is a possibility that Jayoh is a nice and affable guy with a severe mental illness that causes him to be a pathological liar, and the TRS guys just feel a lot of sympathy for him and have incorporated him to an extent beyond what wise judgment would lead them to. That’s my hot take on it. The organization may be full of CIs and Feds and Jim Object may be one of the few who actually isn’t compromised because he’s too unreliable to serve the Fed’s interests.

Working late tonight? This is what a paid shill looks like, for anyone wondering.

Meanwhile, TRS fans will shill for free. I bet you’re a paycuck too.

Tell me, TRS fan: why did they take down Lovestreet and other Larry Ridgeway content a few days ago? I heard JO and LR were roommates for a time.

I'm actually not. Nor does anyone from TRS know me. I am going to subscribe, though, after this shit. TRS seems like one of the only honest actors right now in dissident right politics, outside of RedIce and Fuentes.
You flat out don't believe any of the shit you're writing, and you know it. I know it. Everyone knows it. Be honest.

Larry took it down because he was mad at Jayoh for personal stuff. Larry himself explained why.

I mean, I’m not taking the side of the DS people. Some of the things they’ve suggested in the past are outright lunacy. The DS is now basically an Irony Bros site. But I’m not so sure that the TRS crew are honest brokers either. Heel Turn was destroyed by the fallout between Joachim and Striker when Joachim called Striker out for his NazBolism. Striker and the TRS guys have flirted with being NazBols and Tankies and Duginists but always eventually aggressively walk it back. It’s fucking suspicious.

Fuentes is sincere but I find him annoying. The Red Ice team is great. Master race of serious AR content. Not always as entertaining, but much more consistent.

Hmm. Jayoh sure has unstable interpersonal relationships. The sign of someone with a personality disorder. The kind that might lead to pathological lying.

IMO, post-Bloodsports Heel Turn was kino. That was peak AR content. It could be overdone and cliche at times, and was amateurish. But it had great aesthetics and ambition, the hallmarks of the real dissident right. I miss those days.

If you don't march you stand up against the wall

Hello officer. What’s your badge number?

>I mean, I’m not taking the side of the DS people. Some of the things they’ve suggested in the past are outright lunacy. The DS is now basically an Irony Bros site.
Yeah, that sucks. I listened to Azzmador's episode earlier tonight where he "delved" into the stuff about Jayoh(episode 87 iirc .) I was frustrated at that shit, but his take on Larry was spot on. The kid needs help.

>Striker and the TRS guys have flirted with being NazBols and Tankies and Duginists but always eventually aggressively walk it back.
Striker has some dumb economic ideas I agree. There's someone else who has been brought up a lot recently who ALSO agrees. I just take the good with the bad with him, and he does a lot of good.
And the Duginism thing is just a meme.

Or Larry is an alcoholic.

Never watched Heel Turn.

Bloodsports was peak

So you haven't even listened to the Jim Object podcast or read the DS article

Lmao
>the security guy of TRS is revealed to be mentally ill at best
>how do I give these people money

It's because I listened to the entire podcast that I think this is all stupid. Do you think that he actually met 3 members of Parliament Funkadelic and redpilled them on anarchocapitalism? Do you think he expected anyone to believe that he rode on the back of a drone in the skies over South Africa? If the answer to either question is he's, then I don't know what I can do for you.

>mentally-ill
*was shown to have spun a story on an edgy ancap podcast in 2012
So did you give up on the fed thing?

For anyone etching at home, this is the platonic ideal of a dishonest actor.

I think he's clearly told nothing but lies this entire time.
I'm not even convinced he has a kid now.
It would make sense for a fed to lie about their entire life in order to infiltrate groups.
And yes if he just tells all these bullshit stories obcessively for no reason then he is mentally ill.

>It would make sense for a fed to lie about their entire life in order to infiltrate groups.
It also makes sense for edgy racist podcast hosts to tell fibs about their life to put off doxxers. But you already knew this. Man, you must have been devastated when you learned that Spectre was really from Seattle.

>And yes if he just tells all these bullshit stories obcessively for no reason then he is mentally ill.
Fun is a reason. The other I mentioned above.

You guys are boring. I'm going napnaps.

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>SPLC-/ADL-supported federal law enforcement operation to gather extensive information on anyone sympathetic to white nationalism/supremacy


You have the order backwards, this was in place before Russian intelligence did anything, they just happened to run into it. You can trace this overt focus on white supremacy all the way back to Jay Edgar Hoover's FBI

>Dickie Spencer
>named after the first alphabet agent in the US
>not controlled opposition from the US government
Come on now.

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Yeah bro he preemptively lied about his life 3 years before joining TRS for opsec
Seriously got to wonder wtf is wrong with you people

> it wuz russians
Spotted the boomer. Back to Jow ForumsThe_Donald. Leave politics to the big boys gramps, this is quite a bit above your paygrade.

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No you absolute shitwit. He spun a story for some form of fun in 2012. Keep up. You're really, really bad at thinking.

>Seriously got to wonder wtf is wrong with you people
Ever look in the mirror?
Are you at least done with the fed stuff? Do you still believe in the drones? Or the midnight meeting with PFunk? Or in the midnight flight to central America? Or the heroine bust? I just wanna make sure we're past the bullshit about him being a fed. You seem to have dropped that. So you won't be making those dumb claims again, right? You're going with the
>he told some tall tales in 2012 so he's mentally unstable
take, now, right? I just wanna make sure you're updating your talking points. I don't want to have to go over all of this every time your dumbass decides to post.

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Hitler was a Zionist and paved the way for the reestablishment of Israel.
All natsocs on pol are jews just using white nationalism to get you back on the plantation. The plantation (((they))) own. They know there will never be a holocaust given they own the media and have enough people watching and believing their shit.

Now Any mention of anything remotely redpilled is associated with Nazism. If you ask for redpills, you just get a fuckton of “ hitler did nothing wrong", like thats the only topic associated with redpills.

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Im saying NatSoc is part of the jew plan. They are literaly jews. The queen is literally German and has been potographed being taught the Hitler/Roman salute by her parents.

The Balfour declaration was a British thing and Britain occupied Palestine at the time and the war gave a reason to enact the Balfour declaration.

The Havarra agreement was the German plan to send jews "back" to Israel.

Its all a plan thats been in effect for centuries. Now we can no longer openly advocate anyhting rightwing because its al associated with nazism. Only the globohomo agenda is accepted.

This was all planned for centuries

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Now this is her grandson 60 years later

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Its like "cyber-rabbiwhatchadoin?"

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Lmao I thought it was to get in character for a book? Now the excuse is it's trolling?
What about all the emails Jim Object sent to libertarian organizations?
What about the extensive knowledge of anarchist forums?
What about the continued lies about being a mercenary
It's all just a bit of a laugh huh
Fucking moron

Sounds plausible.

>The Balfour declaration was a British thing and Britain occupied Palestine at the time and the war gave a reason to enact the Balfour declaration.
>The Havarra agreement was the German plan to send jews "back" to Israel.
Then why did Britain crush Germany? Why would the US switch sides after sending oil through British blockades for years?

>change my mind

If I had a more prestigious agency with a bigger budget then yours, I probably could...

>Lmao I thought it was to get in character for a book? Now the excuse is it's trolling?
That counts as "some sort of fun" to me.
>What about all the emails Jim Object sent to libertarian organizations?
Well, he was a libertarian, right? But you knew that.
>What about the extensive knowledge of anarchist forums?
Specifically, an anarcho capitalist. But you knew that.
>What about the continued lies about being a mercenary
Smokescreens, probably? Don't know. Don't care. This is only interesting if you also believe in a whole bunch of other bullshit.
>It's all just a bit of a laugh huh
You're trying sssooooooooooo hard, buddy. Keep it up.
>Fucking moron
You are the worst shill who ever shilled.

No word on the fed thing? I just want you to acknowledge you gave up on that angle. I don't expect any more fed accusations from you, mouthbreather.

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the alt right is an abstraction, and richard spencer entered the scene after the breath of life was blown into the alt right. you can pretend it was caused by e-celebrities like spencer if you like, but the deflection to the alt right ghost predates spencers appearance on the internet by a year. spencer was immediately doxxed and exposed as a jew, just like nearly every other e-celebrity.

the alt right didnt exist, republicans were fractured into several factions after obama. we had conservatives, constitutional loyalists, constitutional supremacist, red team ex mil, the black asphalt law enforcement domestic terror organization, mens rights group, the gamers, the fudd gun owners, the nra gun owners, the unregistered constitutional law gun owners, the oathkeepers.

the nazis, libertarians and national socialists all considered themselves classical liberals, not right wing. at this point the only kkk members left were all undercover fbi agents mindfucking each other, more black people die in chicago every month than the kkk had killed across ALL TIME. there was no white identitarian faction. by 2012 white people had been acculturated into non racism for over 50 years, the least racist generations ever created all existed and worked together. they worked together so well that Occupy Wall Street not only happened, but it happened for weeks.

many many factions. the obama newspeak just started calling the whole thing the alt right, and started calling them nazis. it was a pretend faction, until the feminists lied and called all the white men racist instead of sexist. they pivoted. this unified the alt right, they never would have researched WW2 if they hadnt been called nazis. the feminists created this monster out of a defeated republican party, splintered completely, now reforged in a crucible of hate.

Spencer has nothing to do with the daction i mentioned aside from being jewish, and controlled opposition from the start.

>why did Britain crush Germany? Why would the US switch sides
1) they are all the same team
2) to ruin Europe - the plan was to destroy europe.

I think you are right. Especially when I think about how much Spenser / fragmented alt-right achieved.

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He's either a fed or mentally ill.
Take your pick
Your retarded it's all a joke cope is just that, retarded.
Jayoh has seriously tried to present himself as an authority on Africa several times due to his experience as a mercenary, which of course he doesn't have any experience as.

OP works for the FBI

>I don't march. Marching is useless.
It’s kind of metaphorical right now

>You need to have a simple, easy to understand goal.
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>He's either a fed or mentally ill.
He's only a fed if you believe that he rode on a military drone "like it was a dragon." One of your major discoveries to uncover his mental illness is that he...sent letters to libertarians. Ground breaking.
>Take your pick
Neither.
>Your retarded it's all a joke cope is just that, retarded.
No one said that, but you know that. You are the Platonic ideal of a dishonest actor.
>Jayoh has seriously tried to present himself as an authority on Africa several times due to his experience as a mercenary, which of course he doesn't have any experience as.
And Spectre presented himself as a psychiatrist. But seriously, so fucking what?

And don't try to reintroduce the fed thing. That's dumb. You know that's dumb. Everyone knows that's dumb. Just come clean and admit it. You'll feel a weight come off your shoulders from having to lie to yourself about believing that he absconded in the middle of the night on a prop jet to central America with 3 people he didn't know.

so youre right about spencers operation being a honeypot, however it was not a changeover. he was always controlled opposition, and the alt right is news speak, not a physical faction. thats what makes trump seem so funny, because all the splintered factions voted for him only because the establishment attacked him the same way they attacked the alt right. we are fighting the same liars and bullies, nothing more nothing less. trump doesnt have a base, he has allies. we dont have to agree wih nhim completely, and that means you cant take his base, because its just as much of an abstraction as the alt right.

some people think the alt right is kekistani boys, a faction i forgot to mention. one of the problems with mysticism, humanist philosophy, buddhism, daoism, zen buddhism, hinduism, is that you can get enlightened on accident. the problem with ultimate knowledge is not the technicality of creating a world of ultimate good, but the technicality of confronting a world of ultimate evil. as you try to solve the worlds problems, create meaning taking responsibility, and try to take care of your people, you will realize that there are very real dark forces whom toil every day yo destroy your people. do you sit on the mountaintop, pretend the world is all one movement, that your fears are an emotional attachment?

not while Black Lives Matter is burning an 8 year old white boy to death in a locked car during the ferguson riots while chanting, "kill white boy! KILL WHITE BOY!"

no. you descend from the mountaintop, with all your divine power, to thrust your lance into the heart of the beast. these peoples quickly realized that their power increased across the internet. prayers have to be made with the faith to launch them into orbit, but on the internet you can cast with the full power of every molecule connected to your device through the internet. imagine monks performing feats of levitation at their temples, but the temples are now connected with millions of miles of wire. the enemy was never going to defeat the light. these people are only clashing with christians mildly atheists moderately, everyone else recognizes them as agents rather than patients and falls in line.

do you think the other factions have prepotent spiritual leaders? they dont. its over.

I like your posts and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. One small nitpick, though. Spencer isn't Jewish.

can you add Paul Gottfried, Styxhexxenhammer, Ann Coulter, RamzPaul, John Derbyshire, Matthew Heimbach, Matt Parrott, Nick Fuentes, Millennial Woes, Vox Day, and Baked Alaska?

All Jewish. Every last one.

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>live with
it will be something our children will have to live without, which is enough for me.

Jews took over Western civilization completely. They did it without a single ethnic grievance march. Instead they bit their tongues and plotted and took over the institutions. The people who marched were literally niggers, and they were tricked into that by the Jews. Post-civil rights movement, black per capita income share, lifespans, and property ownership are down. The only thing up for them are fatherlessness and incarceration rates.

If you advocate marching your are a white nigger. A wignat. Someone who just wants to be a convenient tool for the kikes.