Liberals:

Liberals:
>just give free healthcare
>just pay people $15 an hour
>just give a basic income
Everyone else:
>Okay, where is this money supposed to come from?
Liberals:
>?????
Why do they always have a solution, but never a method behind said solution?

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get cancer trumpcel

but what about the rich people?
Amazon is never taxed

>Free healthcare
It will be paid with taxes
>$15 an hour
Profits

ofc
the fucks do not know where money came from
a nigger mentality

No thanks, socialism.

>Socialism
Do you know what that word means?

If you demand more pay than the actual market value, you are using the government to extort for charity.

Corporations underpay their workers and teach them how to milk the welfare system. I prefer my viewpoint

Their target audience is dumb people.

Dumb people don't understand cause and effect, they just think "free shit" magically comes from the sky.

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step 1 : stop giving money to Israel
step 2 : ????
step 3 : profit

>Profits
Companies raise profits. Liberals don't understand basic math

Companies suppress wages and teach them how to use existing programs to survive. If you refuse to pay your employees a living wage, you should not be employing people.

You have zero understanding of economics.

You have zero arguments

A high percentage of jobs dont produce work worth a living wage. If you pay them more than they are worth, the customer eats the cost or the business fails and the employee loses their job. This is simple math and what socialist and communist don't understand.

Profits are at an ath and just accounting for inflation the minimum wage should be closer to 20 an hour

What about do some jumping jacks so you're not obese and don't need to go to the hospital at 30.

What about get an education so you don't need handouts.

Im surprised they laughed at Yang for wanting to hand out 50k then spent the next hour talking about free shit.

It's a testament to how strong our middle class whites are that this ponzi scheme has lasted so long. I await the day of the rope and the restoration of the republic.

>I will take your money
>you will pay more
Here's a 5.56 to your center mass for trying to steal from me, thief.

Why won't they just answer "the 1%er kikes that have a stranglehold on US government and finance"?

Oh right, because then they'd suddenly transform into ebil right wing nazis in the blink of an eye.

>I will work longer for lower wages than my parents because that’s what my boss said!

you'll love paying for your health insurance when you get off mommys health plan kid

Kek this

ur from norway stfu dude

Yes, yes I will. I value freedom over money and security. Hot take huh?
>leaf
Pathetic. You're literally the sweden of north america.

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so white men are going to be further burdened with giving more shit to shitskins and women?

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The middle class is getting shafted with the policies already. Enjoy paying $500 a month per dependent for health insurance while Amazon pays no taxes and teaches their employees how to get on Medicaid and food stamps

>The middle class is getting shafted with the policies already
because of anti-competitive government regulations on the insurance industry (which the insurers lobby for, the largest lobby in the USA), and because of over-regulation of medicine (abolish the FDA)

I don’t think that leftists understand that a countries wealth is just the sum of its useful labor. And who would have guessed - a person does more useful labor if they

>organized by a higherup
>are self sufficient in theirbpersonal life
>feel that their life has meaning
>are earning their money

Why would the ruling class abolish policies that benefit them?

capital flight, it's why the middle class is dwindling in blue states. they "tax the rich" then just give it back bribing them to stay with subsidies and grants. social programs become a middle class burden.

That 3.9 billion per year or $1.19 per person sure is gonna go far.

You know that tax havens are effectively owned and run by the company host country, right?

youtube.com/watch?v=np_ylvc8Zj8&vl=en

No, libshits flood the country will 10 million uneducated and unskilled laborers and then wonder why wages are depressed. Companies raise wages based on supply. If they can't fill the position, they will raise the pay until they find someone.

Says the leaf nigger

It's a good start

This has nothing to do with Amazon paying zero in taxes last year then somehow getting a $128,000,000 tax rebate.

Liberals:
>just give free healthcare
>just pay people $15 an hour
>just give a basic income
Everyone else:
>Okay, where is this money supposed to come from?
Liberals:
>"YOU RACIST.SEXIST. HOMOPHOBIC PIECE OF SHIT MAGATARD FUCKHEAD, I HOPE YOU DIE AND YOUR FAMILY DIES!"
FIFY.

>Liberals:
just sayin... if they cut all of the bullshit government spending then they could give us all of that shit. All we need to do is stop forign aid, stop sending israel money, kick out all of the illegals and anchorbabies, and stop doing stuff like ordering humvee parts they dont need and throwing them in the trash then we could have all of this socialist shit.

Underpaying means there is nobody else willing to do it cheaper which is simply not the case.
Yes they exploit the welfare system, but the cause of that is the welfare system.

>Muh brown people
They are a pawn to lower wages, wealthy people are well aware of that

Higher taxes, dumbfuck

those things are standard in western europe
why is america pretending that it cant be done?

>where is this money supposed to come from?
jewish bankers

>>Okay, where is this money supposed to come from?


From the kikes that we're giving that money to right now you stupid faggot

They are and the non-tards fucking hate it. Everyone keeps repeating the same mantra of muh free healthcare and education while pay more than half of the salary to the state.
It's very simple - you only want socialism if you're a loser or just stupid.

You did not make a single coherent point in this post and everyone is dumber for having read it.

Taxes on the wealthy, dumb dumb.

Do you think universal healthcare is socialism?

Yes.

Then not only are you Estonian but you are also an idiot.

Universal healthcare would be easy to implement. All they would have to do is regulate pharmaceutical companies and anything medical. But the pharmaceutical lobbyists pay off the politicians. So basically, all these paid off politicians are screeching about free healthcare, just to make the pharmaceutical companies even richer.

Switzerland has private insurance and it's much more efficient than any government based system.

hes right though, the illegals jump on welfare and dont pay taxes, they dont have social security numbers so they cant pay. Only kikes and retards think they do.

>>Okay, where is this money supposed to come from?
>Liberals:
>>?????
>Why do they always have a solution, but never a method behind said solution?

It's a bandaid. The cancer treatment, never the cure.

>Why do they always have a solution, but never a method behind said solution?
their method is taxing rich people ignoring the fact that richs would transfer their money out of the country before laws will be enforced

You have provided no stats and didn't even make a logical response.

>the illegals jump on the welfare and don't pay taxes
Un-documented citizens pay state and local taxes.

maybe, stop the transfer?????? :O

>what is monero

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learn from history. Before the laws are enforced all rich people left the country and took their money with them.

Yeah you can stop that wealth leaving the country through laws. If they circumvent those laws you can press charges and tax property they couldn't take with them. Also the usa is extremely powerful and could charge tax havens and put pressure on them

What us the argument you even started? Are you saying universal healthcare is not part of socialism?
Here's an article about swiss healthcare:
forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/04/29/why-switzerland-has-the-worlds-best-health-care-system/#7ca00a617d74

They also have extremely low income tax (3% in some counties) and people do a lot of charity with their excess money.

>Yeah you can stop that wealth leaving the country through laws

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Automation and robots have and will continue to replace millions of jobs.

The manufacturing sector has allready been hit hard. Retail and agriculture are next.
Companies like Amazon and Facebook pay minimal taxes while making huge sums of money off of user data.

If we don't do something to help the middle class the economy will collapse in the next 20 years.

the government providing free healthcare is not socialism. You massive idiot.

lets see you convert that nice house into monero

>lets see you convert that nice house into monero
i could unironically do that if i had a house and a desire

>Taxes on the wealthy, dumb dumb
Yea, I know you are a bong and love taxes but we don't.
If you think for one minute that it would only be taxes on the "wealthy" then you are an idiot.
What would you define as "wealthy" anyway?
I make 100k a year,am I wealthy?

you are so fucking dumb its disgusting.

>HOW DO WE PAY FOR IT???
>healthcare
Did you even try looking up "bernie healthcare plan"? This was like the third result.
sanders.senate.gov/download/options-to-finance-medicare-for-all?inline=file
>minimum wage
>Minimum Wages and Employment: A Case Study of the Fast-Food Industry in New Jersey and Pennsylvania
>"We find no indication that the rise in the minimum wage reduced employment."
davidcard.berkeley.edu/papers/njmin-aer.pdf
>basic income
I don't necessarily want a UBI myself as I think it's a bandaid on the automation issue but Yang specifies ways to pay for it in full detail.
yang2020.com/blog/ubi_faqs/pay-universal-basic-income/

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600 or so billion a year defense budget.

It's just not possible for all these wealthy americans to instantly liquidate all these assets and leave. People also need to buy those assets. They stay in the country and cannot move.

Literally calling for taxes on the millionaires and billionaires and you say that they will tax people earning like 20k? Right...

you have to have a ssn number to pay taxes. You're a fucking retard or a kike.

Lefties: >wants to be like every other developed nation in the world
NPC Rightwing-tards: >"B-BUT WHERE ARE WE GONNA GET THE MONEY???"
kill yourself

itep.org/wp-content/uploads/undocumentedtaxes2015.pdf

>vox.com/2019/3/1/18241692/undocumented-immigrants-pay-state-local-taxes
google is fun

>stupid german nazi
like poetry

cut congressional pensions and paychecks

Free healthcare is a socialist policy, what are you even arguing about?
And do not say "providing free healthcare". The government doesn't provide shit, it just monopolizes the healthcare industry and people overpay for it as the result.
The government doesn't have some magical way to do thing more efficiently and they don't have the incentive either because there is no competition.

Sick a dick, faggot.

Disseminate here. I ain't clicking that shit nigga.

Socialism is the democratic ownership of the means of production by the workers and a planned economy. Where do you read free healthcare? You imbecile.

>>"We find no indication that the rise in the minimum wage reduced employment."
We find no indication that a small change to the economy affected the economy. Now do a meta analysis on all studies on this topic. Minimum wage is either shown to decrease employment or have no effect. This is because it's hard to detect economic effects of policies without being able to control other economic variables.

>Yang specifies ways to pay for it in full detail
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

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>*death threats*

The war in Iraq costed us trillions of dollars. Did you ask "how are we going to pay for this?" back then?

You're thinking too much, goy, stop that. The money is just there.

>Literally calling for taxes on the millionaires and billionaires and you say that they will tax people earning like 20k? Right...
Most very rich fags already get their money out of the country to avoid paying taxes. Politicians are too corrupt to stop it.
They won't tax apple over here because "they could close their 100 apple stores" and might stop selling apple phones, which is nonsense.
step one is putting the right politicians into power. Putting some stupid corrupt socialist into power will do nothing but making more rich people putting their money into some swiss bank

If you just print more money, there will be more money, brainlet.
Just give more money to everyone so they spend it on everything, thus creating demand.
conservitards btfo

I didn't say anything about 20k you illiterate faggot, I asked you what you considered wealthy, but apparently your bug brain cannot comprehend simple questions.
Now that you have proven yourself to be a fucking moron as well as a bleeding heart leftist, kindly fuck off. I'm done wasting time on someone who cannot put ideas together without the liberal playbook open in front of them.

>stupid corrupt socialist
that wants to tax rich people? You tax them on income earned, which happens to all US citizens and you shut down loopholes. Then you tax inheritance, not hard.

The same place all money comes from. I'm sorry if you're too dumb and zogged to figure it out yourself.

They plan to tax your favorite commodities. For example, California has a ~20% state and 10% county tax on marijuana now

>leftist, liberal
you don't know words do you?
I consider millionaires and billionaires wealthy, i said it right there. Please learn to read

It depends on what you mean by socialist.
Many see it simply as an investment in the country's future. Having healthier and happier workers and people in general is sowing good economic and social health you can reap the benefits of later.

This is an oversimplified graph, but what part do you have a problem with? He's mentioned before that UBI will allow people extra money necessary to start new businesses and consume more goods and services, this will lead to economic growth which will lead to more taxes collectible by the government. Societal well-being relates to what I said to the other user in this post about healthcare. It can be seen as an investment in the future you can reap the benefits of later. Example relating to healthcare: less sickness = more productivity.
The other parts of the graph are pretty self explanatory if you've read his platform.

>Then you tax inheritance
Anyone comes between me and my parents' legacy becomes my new hobby. We did away with inheritance tax and it's not coming back.
Such a fucking deeply immoral tax, holy shit.

>what part do you have a problem with?
white men giving more money to shitskins and women

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>You tax them on income earned, which happens to all US citizens and you shut down loopholes.
they will register their business in a different country. They alway find loopholes
>Then you tax inheritance, not hard.
why tax the wealth that was already taxed?

>Common social democratic policies include advocacy of universal social rights to attain universally accessiblepublic servicessuch aseducation,health care,workers' compensationand other services, includingchild careand care for the elderly.
So OK, it's technically social democratic, my bad.
Anyway we're arguing over definitions which is not very useful. The core message I want to convey is that while I think poor people should be supported, I do not trust the government to be good at it. Instead I believe in low prices as a result of competition and freewilled charity of people who get to keep the fruit of their labor.

Tax the rich!!!!!!

But really give Ubi but dismantle welfare, social security food stamps etc

Dont you know you stupid goy? Debt is money.

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