Let the damage control begin

that's a weird way to say crossfire with a Carcano and a Dallas Police Dept-issued M16

very few police depts will go through with it. on a related matter, i gotta find out what clark county sheriffs dept thinks of gun control...not sure if we can trust them

Always bargain from a position of power.

>tfw no grassy knolls in my area
wat do

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Sssssshhhhhh

>very few police depts will go through with it
Then why are police unions some of the most vocal supporters of gun control?

Don't trust any police officers. They work for the state.

would normal cops/metro be charged with confiscating weapons, or wouldnt that only be a sheriffs dep tthing?

Does anyone have the screencap of an user that broke down what would happen if a civil war 2 broke out and why an armed citizenry is a government's worst nightmare?

Don't trust any police officers. You are way overthinking this. If some department needs backup from some other one, they'll get it.

aight, i guess the crux of my position here is to figure out whether to vote for incumbent sheriff or not.

>He thinks his vote matters
Literally any sheriff you vote for will take your guns if ordered. Or they will be replaced.

Your city probably has one. Take note of where they store it. In my case two local cities store theirs on a single municipal lot hidden behind some school buses.

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i aint that blackpilled yet

Hardly a death thread. Its too ambiguous. It could be read as "My AR is ready for you to take"

Youthful naivety I guess. Anyone who supports genuine freedom isn't even allowed to run for office by the parties. I'm 90% sure Ron and Rand are controlled opposition or so powerless they're just left alone.

Don't fool yourself, we live in a tyrannical police state. It's just a cabal of power brokers instead of a single tyrant.

This

Do you have the identity of the power brokers and an idea of how long they've been in power

ROOF TOP KOREA TO STOP THIS SHAMFUR DISPRAY

Yeah, here you go. documentcloud.org/documents/6402600-CEO-Senate-GVP-Letter-Final-Signatories-12.html
>Inb4 no I meant da joos
It's money that makes power.

>implying a good sheriff will bootlick the feds
I doubt it

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You mean the people who provide a huge portion of their funding? Federal gov gave away $29 billion in grants last year. I'm sure you're right, they'll fight that good fight and suffer a severe hit to their ability to effectively do the other 99% of their job that doesn't relate to firearms in any way.

Every thing they have in life comes from suppressing other people for vested interests. They will absolutely comply because their entire professional experience indicates that you will roll over and be safely extorted.

>this fucking meme again.
You just going to pretend that like 20 Sheriffs offices in Washington didnt flat out refuse to enforce state gun laws?

This anti-cop posting reeks of ulterior motives.

>npr.org/2019/02/21/696400737/when-sheriffs-wont-enforce-the-law

fuck off

>Every thing they have in life comes from suppressing other people for vested interests.
The leftist reveals itself.

>Federal gov gave away $29 billion in grants last year
>3000 Sherrifs offices
>18 000 PD's
>Oh no, we shall miss out on our $1 million! Better burn the constitution!

20 cops out of how many in the country? Fuck cops and fuck you bootlicker.

>he thinks a sheriffs office is one guy

You are a special kind of retarded.

Not 20 beat cops, county sheriffs. A significant amount of WA counties are outright refusing to recognize or enforce Seattle's latest infringements.

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>cops gun take ur guns!

Its a fucking stupid argument for so many reasons that I honestly question the motives of anyone who makes it. Right off the top of my head:
>the people who make up police forces
>the Unions flipping their shit at their guys havin to do hundreds of high risk raids per day
>the number of elected officials who will lose their seats, from DA's and Sheriffs to state and federal politicians
etc etc etc

Caveat: does not apply to major metro dpt's. They will take your guns.

I can't vouch for anywhere else but as a Masshole user I have to agree with , they only want guns for themselves, at least here

>tHe pOLiCe ArE pRo gUn
ok retard

>ur retarded
>he says while he makes a sweeping statement that covers 3 million people and 21 000 departments in 50 states

Big think

Yeah trusting boots of the state is beyond retarded.

It's accurate. Police don't make anything. They don't even attack the primary sources of criminal behavior in Western country -- niggers and assorted browns -- because the low-level terrorism is good for their bottom line.

If you think any significant portion of police in America would choose working in a factory/office or running a self-sufficient microfarm over killing your whole family and your dog for $75k/yr, you're retarded.

I would generally say that it depends heavily on region. Some places, Cops are fine, some places they arent. Saying "all cops are bad" is just fucking retarded, and niggardly behavior. The same applies to saying the opposite.

Also, food for thought, the real topic here is Dems openly calling for confiscations and certain anons have tried very hard to shift the discussion towards "cops bad". Thats another big think.

Metro cops are most definitely not to be trusted. I know not all of the rank-and-file are grabbers, but the leadership are suspiciously prone to leftism.

On the upside, with so much push for diversity in the hiring process, metro PD are more likely to be inept or dysfunctional. Witness the Broward County PD and their useless lesbo Chief.

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>primary sources of criminal behavior in Western country
>western country
fuck outta here zhang.

>boots of the state
fuck outta here Fidel.

The overarching point is that trusting any cop on the grounds that not every one of them is bad, is a bad strategy in general. Sorting them out on the fly is a good way to get yourself killed.

>but the leadership are suspiciously prone to leftism
Police are generally a reflection of the community they police. The politics and beliefs of that community become those of the police. Hence why Metro dpt's are how they are and why most Sheriffs PD's and small-town PD's are how they are.

Like I live in the one good county in Massachusetts, and our sheriff treats it like a shall issue state which is nice (we are may issue, but when you go to the interview as long as you clearly aren't a retard he'll just give you the ok)

>If you don't support our boys in blue upholding the law, you must be a communist.
: |

>But he also tacitly acknowledged his lack of authority over them, by saying he will tell the State Patrol to enforce the law in counties where the sheriffs won't.
Oh wow it's a big nothing burger because WSP will still enforce the law where sheriff's won't and guess what, none of the sheriff's here in Washington will stop them.
>He thinks $1m isn't a lot of money
I don't know what to say other than you're retarded. $1m buys a lot of equipment/training/maintenance for all but the largest depts. 30 officer depts like my local one don't have budgets much larger than that to begin with.

Are you angry because I'm shitting on your fantasy that cops give a fuck about you or your well-being? That they'll come in and save the day when the federal or state government finally goes full grabber?

Your point is moot. I am never going to be in a position where a Cop poses any danger to me as I am not a smooth-brain.
>barring some extremely rare-set of circumstances like a no-knock on the wrong address or something.

>uses communist phraseology
>gets upset when called a communist

If you have a gun, it will be taken from you. Cops will be doing the taking. The only scenario in which cops are not a danger to you is the one where you comply like a fucking coward.

>many sheriffs disobey
>but one said he is only half-disobeying
>ha! you lose!
Dont be an idiot.

>I don't know what to say other than you're retarded
That is an average over all 21 000 departments you fucking diabetic. They dont get $1 million each. In reality the money will be heavily slanted towards big PD's who qualify for dem CT grants. It was merely an exercise to demonstrate that while $29 billion sounds like a load of money, it really isnt.

>Are you angry because I'm shitting on your fantasy that cops give a fuck about you or your well-being?
I am merely highlighting what a colossal retard you are being. But yeah, I get it, you got a ticket or a Cop took away your beer once so now BLUE MAN BAD!

>sucks cop dick
>thinks anyone who disagrees with him is an authoritarian
hmmm

get bent piggie

If you can't see at this point that big money wants you raped by niggers, atomized, and disarmed, you're probably a kike shill posting directly from jizzrael.

>If you have a gun, it will be taken from you.
No it wont. Literally impossible for about 300 reasons.

>Cops will be doing the taking
You have evidence that this will occur? Because the only actual evidence on the table indicates the contrary.

You are letting your bias interfere with rational thought. But lets keep talking about how cops bad, sure everyone will forget who is really behind this.

>having an objective view is sucking cop dick

>the leftist exposes itself

No, what is clear is that the democratic party wants those things.

>You have evidence that this will occur?
The fact that its happened many times before.

On a national or state-wide level? Go on, educate me.

>many sheriffs disobey
>but one said he is only half-disobeying
>ha! you lose!
>Dont be an idiot.
>Having to straw man my argument this hard
Is everyone on this site that illiterate? I said it doesn't matter because the state police (WSP or Washington STATE Patrol) will do and no sheriff will, or has even said they would, stop them. Only that they'll instruct their deputies to not enforce that particular law.

>That is an average over all 21 000 departments you fucking diabetic. They dont get $1 million each.
Yeah, no shit Sherlock. And my point was that even $1m isn't anything to just throw away, since like I said most depts are small and have budgets not much bigger than that to begin with. You illiterate mouth breather.
>B-buh that's not what I meant
Ok, so the bigger depts are going to throw away even larger amounts to grand stand? Or are you relying on 20 smaller depts to stand up to the big 1000+ person depts that don't shoot themselves in the foot? No matter which way you split it your ideological dick sucking comes out to a pound of shit when it comes down to not being under someone's boots.

>B-buh you hate cops because you got a ticket
>Ignore the institutional corruption and malfeasance that's so common it's a cultural meme in America
Yeah, no. Go fuck yourself you high school drop out.

>No, what is clear is that the democratic party wants those things.
Lol imagine being this braindead. You still think there's a fundamental difference between parties. Go to t_d you stupid boot licking faggot

There's the weird point of, hey don't trust cops and be suspicious. Like you can have that opinion and not sperg always.
Again it's a big Dem saying it a croud applauding
Be more concerned about that WHILE generally not trusting cops.

No need for this weird argument you two are having

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>You still think there's a fundamental difference between parties
Yes, there is quite obviously a difference. Tranny.

Yeah, that's why Republicans are pushing for the same surveillance state and gun control Democrats want. Or have we forgotten the bump stock ban already?

>I said it doesn't matter
It does matter. You said Cops would all do it. Here we have evidence that they dont.

So now on one hand we have your opinion of the world, and on the other we have actual evidence indicating how the world really works. Which do we choose? Your hurt feelings or real world happenings?

>since like I said most depts are small and have budgets not much bigger than that to begin with
*The majority of departments get less than $1 million, diabetic*

>Ok, so the bigger depts are going to throw away even larger amounts to grand stand?
As I said, Metro PD's are a lost cause so no.

>Or are you relying on 20 smaller depts to stand up
You require a lesson in civics? Smaller departments dont need to do anything as bigger departments dont have jurisdictions.
>but muh state
Ask ICE how easy it is to do your job when local PD doesnt play ball.

>when it comes down to not being under someone's boots.
Your bias is showing. This one sentence is a window directly into your motivations.

>Go fuck yourself you high school drop out.
Oh come now, no need to be upset.

>bump-stock ban is the same as outright bans and gun confiscations
D I L A T E

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Make Israel Great Again borther!

Can state and local officers even enforce federal law if their state doesn't have a law on the books? Wouldn't anything done on the federal level need to be enforced by the alphabets?

Welcome to the modern world. They didn't even need to push a surveillance state. The citizens just handed them it.
Also
>Bumpstocks
Who the fuck cares? Buy a god damn rubber band or binary trigger. The only legislation I'd be worried about is an assault ban or caliber ban
Fucking Walmart has said no to guns, but it wasn't the government so I guess that's fine you fucking idiot

National Guard

>The only legislation I'd be worried about is an assault ban or caliber ban
Well you should know police unions support those.

They can enforce it if they choose to but cannot really be forced to comply if they chose not to. Thats why sanctuary cities are a thing.

Nigger I'm
I fucking defended your god damn stance. Stop being a retard.

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>It does matter. You said Cops would all do it. Here we have evidence that they dont.
You have words. Words don't mean shit. And my point was that when it comes down to funding or enforcing the law, they'll enforce the law. Like I said, illiterate.

>*The majority of departments get less than $1 million, diabetic
>The smaller the dept, the smaller the budget, the smaller the grant
>This means it's ok to just lose that funding

>Smaller departments dont need to do anything as bigger departments dont have jurisdictions.
State police have the entire state as their jurisdiction, moron. Go reread what Inslee directed WSP to do. Kind of shits all over your whole argument.

>Ask ICE how easy it is to do your job when local PD doesnt play ball.
>conducts largest raid of illegals yet
Doesn't seem to be hampering them too much. It's still irrelevant what my local sheriff says when state is kicking down my door. You can't seem to wrap your head around that concept.

>Your bias is showing. This one sentence is a window directly into your motivations.
>Implying not wanting a shitty leftist government regulating my life and property is a bad thing
WSP was about to release the list of everyone who turned in a bump stock so it could be made into a searchable database because "the law says we have to," before the 2A foundation stopped it in court.

Let me belabor this one more time. THE POLICE DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN AND YOUR TOTALLY BASED AND REDPILLED SHERIFFS WILL NOT STOP THEM.

The bumpstocks were banned because they can turn ordinary rifles into third-rate SAWs, even if they can be jam prone. It's about degrading off-the-shelf capabilities of a revolt.

Cops are extensions of an ILLEGITIMATE
police state. Period.

>bump-stock ban is the same as outright bans and gun confiscations
>Both get you felony time in prison
>both are unconstitutional
>Both ban the ownership of property
It's cute that you keep intimating that I'm a discord tranny when I'm the one advocating freedom while you're defending the armed state agents who would shoot you for not turning in your plastic stocks.

Or maybe it was just politically expedient as the normies were super butt-mad about it and the NRA let it slide by taking a gamble that it would make the normies shut up about it, with mid-terms around the corner and whatnot?

Not everything is a grand conspiracy. Its just the mundane petty-politics of 2019.

Get a drone and make some explosives instead of missing every shot and dieing like a bitch. Would I rather they not have been banned? Sure and the fact that shooting still had no motive is also crazy suspicious. However, it's hardly as much of an impact compared to an AR ban and/or eroding of availability (see Walmart gripe) plus this constant demonization. Like this guy wants to be president and said "we're coming"
Forgive me for being a bit more concerned over that

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>I'm the one advocating freedom
You arent advocating freedom. You are trying to argue that Republicans are just as bad for guns as democrats. This is objectively false, so false that it reeks of an ulterior motive.

>bump stocks
Dont care, never cared and never will care.

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First they came for the imports and I did not care because fuck imports.

Then they came for the bump stocks and I did not care because fuck bump stocks.

Then they came for the "high capacity magazines" and I did not care because lol not my state, fuck those guys.

Finally they came for me and there was no one left with fucks to give.

Cute twist on a time honored phrase. But it doesnt make an argument.
You are still trying to equate the closing of an NFA loophole with the ban and seizure of all semi-automatic rifles and magazines in the country.

At the last Debate they made their stance on guns very clear, to thunderous applause. Only a shill would try to argue that both parties are just as bad. Ironic that this thread is called "Damage Control" because you are at all-hands right now.

Its fucking happening. This guy got ERPO'd by his girlfriend.

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Goddamn this is next level gas lighting. This is like arguing with someone claiming that up is down.

>You are trying to argue that Republicans are just as bad for guns as democrats.
They aren't?
>'86 FOPA (Hughes amendment)
>'68 GCA (that the NRA endorsed and GHW Bush said wasn't far enough)
>bump stock ban
>"I'm not a big fan of silencers" t. Trump 2019
>Maryland Republicans were the deciding vote on the Brady Bill
>Reagan and California gun control
>Nixon said, "Guns are an abomination,"

But right, I'm the one with ulterior motives. Not the faggot going to hell and back to defend the armed enforcers of the government.

The NFA is unconstitutional.

>You are still trying to equate the closing of an NFA loophole with the ban and seizure of all semi-automatic rifles and magazines in the country.
And you still don't understand that both of those things have the same outcome. You get Waco'd or you end up in jail for owning unpopular property.

Correct. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to put it together that entrenched capital doesn't actually want an armed population. They only played along with gun companies and the NRA are big donors and they thought their propaganda was impervious. They start getting a whiff of bank nationalization and goyim not getting into their flag-draped coffins on command, the mask will drop quickly.

Overall FOPA was actually a pro-gun bill, that nigger democrats snuck the Hughes Amendment in illegally. Seriously, look up the C-Span footage, the Hughes Amendment failed to pass, but was (((accidentally))) left in the final draft.

>You arent advocating freedom.
>bump stocks
>Dont care, never cared and never will care.
Pottery

This is why leftism cannot be left alone anywhere in this country. It must be cut out, root and branch.

Don't be disingenuous. He isn't saying that. He said some cops are cool, and statistically that's true. And yes, politicians are shit no matter the "side"
Yet Dems are still worse.
You two are arguing for no reason