Is there any correlation between chess and general intelligence?

Is there any correlation between chess and general intelligence?

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Is there any correlation between asking questions on Jow Forums and getting valuable answers?

yes retard

Intellect
generative

intelli-gence

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Sure, it requires good analysis capability, reading your opponents mind, and also just a good desire for competition. But its still just a game, with relatively simple ruleset (although quite a lot of advanced possibilities).

>calls someone a retard
>listens to Mark Passio

fpbp

There's a connection between chess and madness.Bobby Fisher got crazier and crazier over the years, and when he became the world champion, he finally lost his mind.

>flag

Also he seems fine to me.

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I hate chess. Always lose my train of thought and have to start over. I pretty much always end up just doing something and seeing what happens.

yes. also.......
1. e4

You need to be intelligent to play chess at a high level but not everyone who is intelligent can play chess at a high level.

>1. e4

Good choice user.

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Based and redpilled, fuck d4 faggots are antichess and antifun

So what? That doesn't negate the fact that he was a schizophrenic

There is no evidence he had schizophrenia. He was uncouth and blurted out offensive comments, but there isn't anything to indicate any form of mental illness other than being antisocial.

Show flag faggot

C4

Pff imagine being obsessed and a chesslet that you make this pic

C4 just transposes to QGD there is really only two non meme openings in chess

1. Nf3

No, just performal intelligence. Together with verbal inteligence it forms IQ. The two are closely linked though, which is how for example they extrapolated Wittgensteins IQ from his writing, concluding Verbal = Performal. It can be asymetrical, so thats why I made the distinction. In short:

No, but 95% of the time yes.

Read a book about him. Before he became world champion, he was just paranoid that he was being watched, that the Jews wanted him to lose and so on. But after he became the world champion, he went completely mad. He started reading anti-Semitic books, white supremacy books, Jewish occultism and became the most ardent anti-Semite. He became a champion at the age of 30, and after that he did not play in any tournament until 1992, not because he thought he was being watched by the CIA, Jews, the KGB. His sister kicked him out of the house when he came to her and her Jewish husband and started telling them who the Jews were and how they wanted to take over the world. According to the cleaning lady who cleaned his house, all Bobby did from the age of 30 to 55 was get up, eat, and read books full of hatred about Jews.

Nothing you said indicates "mental illness". Disliking Jews is pyschologized into a "mental illness" by Jewish intellectuals to smear anyone who is critical of any aspects of their culture or religion.

Lets start Jow Forums chess championship. I play often on chess.com we can made it there.

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what a based kike

I know there's a 2300 rated player on /v/ and a handful of others topping 2000, but I have no idea how many strong players are here on Jow Forums. I'm about 1750 on Lichess, but I never play over the board.

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No, chess is just abstract problem solving practice. League of Legends and Street Fighter are both more complex games with much more yomi and no predetermined end states.

Seems he was wrong, russians first is not jews first.

How is telling the truth about kikes "mental illness" Shlomo? Sounds like some Soviet Union bullshit. Oh wait it's the same stuff coming from the same people

This.
Memory seems to be crucial in chess. Kasparov's IQ was estimated to be around 190 based on his elo, but when he took a proper test it stood at 134 iirc.

Finegold is based as fuck, just check his compilations or lectures

your approach is wrong, play a lot of games against the computer, play it at a level you can beat it at and play a lot of games, you will develop an intuitive way of playing, analysis is for chess pros who do nothing else all day, there's no point in analysis unless you're a pro

You need at least some of the latter in order to learn the former.

typical Fachidiot
> an expert in a certain field who is ignorant of other fields, or only looks at problems through the lens of their own field

many people like this in areas where you need to train from early childhood

99.9% of top level chess is just memory.

my brother is just over 2300

Strategic intelligence yes.

>muh 1.e4 or 1.d4
the final redpill is 1.C3

Chess has nothing to do with intelligence, it's just memory. Every pro train with computer

It needs a decent amount of intelligence to be played at high levels. Well, anything done at high levels need at least a normie tier intelligence.

>Chess has nothing to do with intelligence, it's just memory.

So what do you do if your opponent plays something outside of book theory? Resign?

no. chess actually pretty stupid sperg time activity.
you need some level of intelligence beoynd general "population" lets say >120 IQ, but no more.
For instance go game is better

A good share of what we call intelligence is just fast reliable memory though.

fragile egostroking npcs, please, go back.

at least you arent full retard

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>120IQ
Maybe to be a Gran Master or whatever, but to play, even to play well, normie tier IQ will do it. Go, that's a game that's totally pointless to engage if you are a normie.

They won't, your computer already showed you every possible combination.

go back where exactly?
nigger

Personaly i'm good at chess so i'm gonna say yes

Yeah something like that

It is true though, a fair share of success in activities generally thought of as demanding intelligence is explained by memory skills. That's why I'm a pretty good chess player but I'm definetly no big braniac >150IQ.

Is chess now worse than it used to be? Like 30 years ago before computers were so good at it and easily available.

Go is way more complicated game than chess. It's the king of games and is mastered by Asians.

number of moves is finite
there are no moves outside book

Fpbp

Chess is for retards. High IQs play poker

Nah. The game has finite moves, and this was known before Deep Blue and co. Computers just made the process of exploring possible configurations faster and more efficient. But the game is always the same.

AI can now beat the best humans in chess, poker, go, starcraft

Sounds to me like he just stressed himself too much with the truth and refused to accept ignorant uneducated bullshit from his family, who should have known better than to mistreat him so thoroughly for speaking facts, which should have been recognized as such because of the caliber of the person speaking them. This is damaging to mental health, but in no way even remotely points to schizophrenia or any other mental illness.

Nobody recognizes their betters anymore, because they put no real effort into themselves and cannot recognize when someone else has. When there are no betters, there is nothing to trust, and nothing to strive for.

The Jews know this, and it is why they created neo-progressivism to demoralize the entirety of the population of the West in such a manner. Bobby saw the middle stages of this happening.

>poker
Lol.

exactly where you belong, somehow all the dumb slavs like you can't accept someone is far better at something which requires intelligence and/or they got btfo'd hard by them so they need to cope with generalization. "its not hard" "anyone can do it" "this one thing im better at is far harder !!"

you are generalizing about 99%, which no one cares about, everyone in 0.00X% has the memory and intelligence, and then intelligence thriumps, not memory. no one cares about your 2k ELO because anyone that dedicated 1 month can reach it, but the 0.000X% where you are playing vs grandmasters, memory is useless because everyone has it.

>They won't, your computer already showed you every possible combination.

Right so when you play offbeat openings (that score well) like the St George Defense to 1.e4, you think players like Magnus Carlsen and Hikaru Nakamura have any theory memorized beyond the first half dozen or so moves?

Again, what do they do?
>Well I haven't read a book on this opening so I'll lose

for those who want to see this documentary about google engineers vs the best go player in the world. fascinating
youtube.com/watch?v=jGyCsVhtW0M

Bolshevism is blatant class warfare in the Jewish style, it never had anything to do with Russian heritage or putting Russia first. It was literally the opposite of that.

lol
i was a chess champ of my area in my high school times. if i say that chess is stupid it doesnt mean that i am saving my ego, its just mean that chess is stupid

someone 1v1 me before bed time pls
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last fag aborted game because he is a pussy with a small dick someone else 1v1 me
>inb4 same retard
lichess.org/I4NCBPlT

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I met a chessplayer who is unable to go shopping , unable to work on a toolmachine , unable to study .

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AI in poker is bullshit when you play for cash

maybe statistically win in 1000 games but irl AI can be out of money after 10 game

I like to see AI vs AI high stakes poker playing. Cash founded by creators.

It would be like high frequency trading.

Is anybody on here good enough at chess to tell me if this theory is plausible?
mileswmathis.com/fischer.pdf
Basically, the theory is that some of Bobby’s opponent took a dive, but I haven’t played ir studied chess enough to tell if it’s truthfull.

>blunders a whole knight
Still better than 1900 elo blundering a queen in a 15+15 match vs me

If you read my other post, I explicitly state that high intelligence is not necessary if not when confronting grandmasters. The difference with Go is that you can't even be a decent player if you are not highly intelligent.
Note that I'm not saying I'm good at it. Just noticing the difference between the two. If you consider the complexity of the two, it's obvious that we are talking different order of magnitude.

Yep that is very good material.

look at my other games i dont never make a mistake that stupid had no idea what i was thinking

Has more to do with the Prussian model of education pumping out slave minds than any other factor

>number of moves is finite

There are more positions in chess than there are atoms in the universe. We don't have endgame tables beyond 7 pieces and just storing the 7 piece table is 15 terabytes of information. As each extra piece you add makes the number of possible variations go up exponentially, it is theorized that making an 8 piece endgame table would take over 1 petabyte of information just to store the solution.

It is totally impossible to "solve" chess, and very few people have expansive knowledge of sidelines of the Ruy Lopez or Sicilian Najdorf outside of grandmasters, despite their immense popularity across all playinf levels.

are you user or other guy

Is this already a thing? I would watch it.

redpill me on that pic you posted NOW

youtube.com/watch?v=ZE4cHyAz4PI

The absolute based madman

im MSOGG

On Steam, game called Regicide. Chess in a Warhammer setting with standard rules. The Emperor approves.
Chess is good for the mind OP, but we have much more challenging games to play virtually now, full 3D campaigns across entire continents.

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What is a novelty then

Yeah common bs from chess shills,
positions are beyond limits, BUT actually relevant 2-3 at a moment nigger. stop your sperging here. Better start to develop problem solving skills, not idiotic games.(go better tahn chess but idiotic too)

WOW SO U WERE SO GOOD IN LOCAL RANDOM HIGH SCHOOL IN RUSSIA user U DEFF KNOW WHAT UR TALKING ABOUT GAME THEORY OF CHESS AT GRANDMASTER LEVEL.

unironically dont reproduce, ill pay for the abortion. a GM can wipe the floor with you 100:0.
nobody gives a shit about 99% or 99.9%, its about the 99.999%. you talk and sound like a reddit npc because you go and gloat your own ego in whatever pseudointelligent reddit you belong to. the game is about grandmasters, not about masters, or anyone below, they are useless npc cattle.

every single grandmaster i played against can see at least 10 moves ahead FOR EVERY move they consider. master? max 1-2 and limited to few different moves

ahhahaha how did he miss such a mate, nice job mate

area not school, but unironically kill yourself sad tedious faggot

>lichess.org/sCj4dCUyRFq0
OH NONONONO

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1500 elo... rolf you shitty player

ego status = shattered.

>What is a novelty then

A term he doesn't know because he very clearly knows nothing about chess. I could give these retards a whole collection of opening books to have open next to them during a match and I (or anyone rated 1500+) could beat them almost every single time.

Why is chess dumb? It's a real gentleman's game

I'm not good at chess so I'll say no.

Seriously though, there is an IQ requirement to get to high level play. You have to have a certain capacity to actually do it well.

sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/09/160913124722.htm

The rest is just practice though. There's nothing inventive or novel in playing the game, as Pole user says:
GOOOOOO

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hey dude, im trying my half best out there ;(
just look at these stats

surely i am on my way to super GM

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whatever nigger, you arent chess champ even itt
what is your iq?
120?

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I want to play again, who's up for a game

lichess.org/AzdoXCOU

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because he peaked 1.950 and couldnt get above it so he copes with his own righteous ego.
not grandmaster, but close

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I'm curious, how accurate is lichess/chess.com elo compared to actual FIDE ranked elo, because I see GMs with as much as 3.2k elo on lichess which is ridiculous

because its just a memory recognition, chess hard for general population as i said but no insight required, no HARD brain work needed for chess where you in a state of lack of information.