Does polyamory work long term? I really don't like it, but I feel like no one is doing mono relationships anymore so I feel like I'm a minority now days for not wanting to be poly. Especially in /lgbt/ communities.
If people could provide actual statistical data that would be nice. Am I just being a cunt for not wanting this?
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Are you looking for a straight or gay mono relationship. Also that pic is hideous, no idea if thats a fem guy or ugly girl.
So far, only when societies reach their decline does any concept of Polyamory, Polygamy, complete regress of sexual ethics, etc. come into play.
Homosexuality has never been monogamous. That was a propaganda tactic used to sell gay marriage (portray them as being like heterosexual couples) as even their "marriages" are not monogamous. If you're part of a community of degenerates you shouldn't be surprised if they behave as such.
I'm looking for straight relationships. Also, that's just a crossdresser lol.
Can you show me some proof? I'm completely ignorant. I came from /lgbt/ trying to date trannies for the past year and I don't really wanna do that anymore. They just want to be poly. I don't.
I'm not gay, was just trying to date trannies.
Among heterosexuals, polyamory is a way for women to sleep around and not feel guilty about it. It's a way for their brain to interpret being a whore such that they don't feel guilty. That's the only reason it exists. If a woman wants to do that, then end the relationship immediately.
So does polyamory work long term though?
Do you honestly think that people can have a long term relationship which involves (primarily the woman, as woman can find sexual partners more easily) fucking other people, and jealousy and distrust not corrode and destroy it?
No, by sheer virtue that it hurts the children. Do you think a child wants to grow up with multiple moms / dads? Are you a retard?
>So does polyamory work long term though?
No, how many grandparents you know who still fuck around?
shit lips shit bj fuck off trap
I am polyamorous but not by choice. All the women I meet these days just want to have flings, none want to settle down for anything permanent. It sucks, but it's better than being an incel.
Yes.
I'm 60 and I have three different women I bang intermittently
"just a crossdresser"
yeah, sure, "just"
LGBT community is a bunch of mentally ill people. Their own life doesn't work in the first place, much less their relationships. So the fact polyamory is prevalent there is enough reason to know that it doesn't work.
She looks cute but there's something off about her.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMEEEEEEEEEEEEEER
If you're dating a MtF trannie, you are dating a man, and that's pretty fucking gay.
Polyamory is just what bitches who want to sleep around call their whoring.
>polyamory
That's just weird cunts made up to justify being sluts.
It's called "polygamy" a valid form of marriage. A man can own as many cunts as he can afford. No government can say otherwise
>her
Boomer getting more pussy than you ...........
no, you're a moral human being for not wanting that.
It's a surrender to our base animal instincts.
Take the high road, try to find a suitable mate to spend your life with, it will be infinitely more rewarding than random fucking with diseased and depressed empty shells of humans.
>just because your friend jumped off a bridge...
sauce me up senpai
czech
baste
and Mormonpilled
>If you're dating a MtF trannie, you are dating a man, and that's pretty fucking gay.
That's fine. I mean she can suck dick. I'm kinda larping tho, never actually got to get my dick sucked by a tranny.
But what if these types don't exist anymore? The people who share my values.
Thankfully my girlfriend doesn't share anything, nor does she want too. There are some studies that show poly relationships create unhealthy and unstable kids. Their only argument in favor for poly bullshit is when they say "its more natural". When it's not, and is simply just a justification to be morally and ethically disgusting.
You know what else can be considered natural ? Human hunter and gather tribes- simply because it's "old"- but guess what we have evolved from.
Most people who want poly relationships will never be happy.
psychologytoday.com
As i want the best for my children one day , i'll never entertain the idea of some sex addicted whore wanting to be polygamous.
Very few people are actually poly, and far too many use it as an excuse to cheat without repercussion. The constantly rotating in and out of partners (usually one woman and multiple men) makes for a questionable at best environment for children, and intimacy issues run rampant- usually partners becoming jealous, or simply ignored (they even call this "new relationship energy", and try to frame this as a positive thing). There's the occasional man who has multiple woman and is 'poly' but usually they're extremely high status, and it's closer to being a harem of old. Most men are simply cucked as they get to hear about their partners latest experience of getting "enriched" in every hole, while she refuses sexual activity entirely with her 'prime' partner.
Where are you finding these girls?
How do we find women who don't do this?
>global basis for civilization
>five homosexual redditors and twitter liars means it's just gone away
Jew or brainlet?
You decide!
Patriarchal polygamy, where one guy has numerous wives, is what female nature will ultimately take us back to.
Monogamy is a forceful imposition by men to make sure every male gets partnered and ensure social stability. The alternative is a society swimming in excess males, which has historically given rise to warrior raider cultures like the Arabs, African bantu's and the Norse Vikings. In a modern setting where you can't raid neighbouring cultures for women a low status male can either compete to get higher status, or dull himself with digital opium like porn and video games, or go on the rampage which means either becoming a mass killer (The most popular option in individualist USA) or join some fringe group like Antifa or ISIS
>Why would anyone lie on the internet
Both my sons mothers live with me and our combined 5 kids. Does that count?
I for one wouldn't mind one real gf and one trap gf. of course that trap gf would be heavly abused, wouldn't mind it suicide'd itself after its sexual usefulness expieres. but I guess I gotta be a milionare to live a life like that (so im working on that).
Zug zug. I just have feelings to smash face of this thing on your pic. Im choosing dark side over this gay OP user.
Polyamory doesn't just mean fucking multiple people. If someone calls it that, he's misusing the term to make cheating sound interesting. Polyamory is three or more people actually in a voluntary group relationship that includes sex.
It's usually a way for fat, ugly women to get more, better dick. Some guys who wouldn't normally fuck them will if they can offer the chance to fuck other women as part of the deal. Also, it's a way for gay-curious dudes to be naked in bed with other dudes and hope some gay action might happen.
Well I'm not specifically talking about 'poly' in terms of marriage and children. More so, just talking about 'polyamorous' relationships, sleeping around with multiple people, sort of an 'open relationship.' I don't like it! But I don't think it's necessarily bad because no children are involved.
You make some solid points. What do we do about the excess male problem in places like China and Japan? Should the incels literally create their own community, stop bitching, get fit, and build their own nation state?
I've tried poly twice now and given it my best shot both times. I can honestly say that im convinced it won't work for 99% of people. The biggest problem is that its almost impossible to have the same level of romantic love for 2(or more people) and because of this the relationships will always be unbalanced, which leads to jealousy, which leads to turmoil. Humans are not meant for polyamourus relationships, our jealousy is innate and the people who claim they dont get jealous are either lying to themselves, delusional, or there is something fundamentally wrong with them.
You are SUPPOSED to get jealous when someone else is fucking your significant other. The only way i see it working is like a Triad where all 3 people like eachother roughly the same and its more like a good group of friends who like to sleep with eachother and they always do it all together.
See a doctor, becoming violent because of pixels you see on a computer is not normal.
>getting cucked
>except a lot of times
>while you prettend others will make you forget about the fact
>specially in the /lgbt/ communities
said it all
bruh, real pussy isn't much better, but they might be a tad less degenerate than /lgbt/ trannies
A lot of people here seem to falsy assume that polygamy is the natural norm and the state of chaos yet ignore that there are plenty of animals who are 100% monogamous. I personally think that it's a spectrum with some humans being more towards the other. Considering how despite ((hollywood)) influece most people still choose a an old school life I wouldn't rule out the possibility that most of us are fully monogamous.
Only fat, ugly, poor people do polyamory. As such it is doomed to fail. It also completely collapses when one of the heffers gets knocked up.
>statistical data
The leading reason for divorce is infidelity.
No. In most cases it will fail epically. Spend some time around poly people and watch how they’re either always processing something or deeply heartbroken. I would not consider that a success. Just be a man and stay single and date around, or stop whining about your feels and find a monogamous girl. They do exist, but here’s the catch: you must be better than her, which means you must either date down or improve yourself to the point that you can have the girl you want and still be better than her
czch.
They do user, you're just not going to find one over the internet.
True, too bad I can't get either :^)
Where are they?
...but I'm a doctor unironically
Your masculinity fell very low.
is that a tranny?
don't give up, I got 2 gfs just by talking to them on the internet and it clicking
it's a crossdresser
What weird state do you live in user? I don't know anyone in a relationship based on polyamory. I am married. My friends are mostly either married or in a long term relationship.
I live in Florida and this state isn't exactly a normative paradise.
Also, short answer is polyamory does not work. Swingers have notoriously bad home lives / marriages. Long answer is related to pair bonding.
Alphabet soup is cancer...
They exist but they pair off early, and stay paired. The dating market only gets worse as you get older. I'm 31, and my LTR of 3 years went from "I want to spend the rest of my life with you" to basically not talking anymore in only a few months, with nothing to trigger it. The dating market now is just *bad*, with single moms and broken women abounding.
You are wrong. The dating market gets better as you age. I didn't start meeting a lot of girls until 25. The key is to date college girls and girls just out of college. I'm 29 and I married a 24 year old.
It got easier for me as I aged because I worked out, got better social skills, and picked up dance / music. Just remember user, women want to be dominated / fucked
I live in Maryland, but most of this stuff I'm talking about is online on Discord servers and stuff. Lol. I don't have many irl friends (only a few really good ones desu).
wowie that sucks bro
i think it gets easier if you are not someone who stays home and works from home, and takes online classes lel. where did u even meet lmao
Dating younger is key, you mean. I agree with everything you said, but the problem is filtering out the girls who just see you as an ATM card, and are faking love/sex until marriage or whatever other personal goals they see for you. I'm sure you're right and i'll be fine, but figuring out how to date again SUCKS, I really thought I was past it all.
Best way to filter ATM whores is not to buy them anything. I don't flash my money and my belief is that if a woman won't live you when you are poor she won't love you when you are rich. Most ATM whores are noticeably materialistic. You can also tell a lot about a woman by how she treats people
They don't work short term, it's a cop out for sluts and bugmen.
I mean, everywhere.
Many women act like degenerates in public, at bars and clubs etc. because its "fun" and it's what they think their supposed to be doing based on current culture.
The best thing you can do is not get desperate. Put yourself out there but be absolutely clear about what you want; a monogamous, loving, traditional-esqe relationship.
Embrace your own self-worth. Once you feel comfy in your own skin you will become more discerning in your tastes.
Sexual immorality, rampant sexuality, disregard for the sanctity of the other, these things are poison for our soul, and disrupt our ability to reason and think clearly.
I met my current gf at work, the one before that at a bar, the ones before that at school.
Polygamous societies are generally extremely violent.
I know what you mean I was actually enraged at the last chick who asked me how I felt about open relationships because it was after I kissed her for all I knew she just got done sucking her bfs dick. I checked her FB and she was showing off a black eye so apparently he wasn't really into it either
step 1: polyamory. she fucks around.
step 2: being a cuck. she eventually agrees that you at least get to watch
step 3: getting a dick up the ass from jerome
you're at step 1. bail now, unless you're a fag.
>Many women act like degenerates in public, at bars and clubs etc. because its "fun" and it's what they think their supposed to be doing based on current culture.
im too much of a pussy to go to bars/clubs
>she
That’s a dude
The "woman" in the pic is made out of candy. That's what you look like when you eat nothing but sweets. She's mentally 3 to 4 years old. Have a sage and KYS.
It's me.
Well you aren't missing anything. A night at the pub with the boys is one thing, but the whole idea of a gaggle of dudes going out to "get pussy" is so cringy to me now. I used to be one of those guys, but the women can smell the desperation a mile off.
The true redpill is to focus on yourself first, cultivate your own inner confidence by setting goals and accomplishing them. That confidence will radiate off of you and they will come to you.
Not even bullshitting, I went from being the literal virgin from virgin vs. chad, to being a semi in shape dude who walks with his back straight and chin up, and these bitches never stop staring. They lust after a confident man, because no matter what they say, they want a guy who will protect them and have the balls to put them in their place when they are acting crazy.
I feel like if I "put them in their place." I'm being a bad person.
Agreed. I've entered multiple het couples relationships as an other and they always end up separating. I don't really feel at fault because it's their responsibility really and if they are letting a tranny into their monogamy then something is probably already amiss. Also better it be me than someone else because at least I don't pick favorites or pit people against each other, I've always been 100% completely fair in my attention dividing. Still things get all messed up eventually. At least the sex is good..
We are given 5 senses to SENSE where we are in space and time,
you can actually engage all 5 with ANOTHER PERSON at THE SAME TIME and experience a moment in time and space together . you can't do that with multiple at once people even if you're hellen keller.
monogamy is king and what we strive towards for a reason.
Ill add that ima faggot.
>it will be infinitely more rewarding than random fucking with diseased and depressed empty shells of human
problem is, most of them have already done this and don't tell you about it, leaving you in the asshole chair with a used up roastie and kids to take care of.
ALL women lie, the sweetest ones tell the biggest lies and hide the nastiest shit you can imagine.
well you gotta get over that. I'm not saying hit them or scream at them, just don't be scared to tell her she's acting crazy or irrational. 99.999% of the time I get into it with my gf over some overreaction on her part, she always comes back after she cools off and tells me how right I am.
Women are inherently irrational, I don't think there's an argument against that at this point. It's our job as the male in the relationship to keep that shit in check. Trust me, you are helping them when you check them for some bullshit, and they recognize it.
Most polyamory in the west these days is motovated by women who want to lock down a guy as a paypig and emotional tampon that they can walk all over while riding the cock carousel and getting knocked up by niggers who don't want to raise their own kids. And poz spreading faggots.
It does not. Over time, the male psyche will eventually rebel against the woman who is using him for resources to propogate other men's DNA and not his and he ends up ax murdering his whole "family".
mostly true from my experience.
ignorance is bliss. I don't ask and I don't tell. And if that bitch starts fooling around or whatever, drop her like a bad habit. Her and her faggot kid.
I know im coming across as a dickhead here, but thats the only way I know how to deal with a situation like that. We've gotta reclaim our masculinity. Part of that is hardening ourselves against emotional "trauma" for lack of a better word, especially around relationships.
If something went wrong with my current relationship I would literally be happy if I didn't have another gf or wife w/e for the rest of my life.
A female companion is an ADDITION to our lives, not the REASON for it.
'Polyamory' is short for 'riding the cock carousel like there's no tomorrow'. Only selfish autistic cunts/fags opt on that.
FFM works, but you must always put the girls first. It also helps if one of the girls is extremely intelligent and capable and the another less so and content to be a homemaker. The girls should have a girl/girl orgasm daily. Make that your top priority.
polygamy doesn't work like these people want it, the only way it works is when its 1 guy and his harem
Well, there's polyamory, which I am conflicted on due to personal experiences in the last few months, then there is polygamy which is actually acting out the multiple partners thing. I don't think I can do the second one but shit the first one is chasing me
Straight guy formerly married to bi wife here. Polyamory doesn't work 99.9% of the time. It being an excuse for your gf to have guilt-free sex is true. Even if you were like me and have bi waifu and only allow sex/relationships with females for either of you, she'll STILL get more out of it than you, plus feel guilt-free while guilting or sabotaging you out of innate jealousy.
If you don't care about the long-term good of the relationship and are a chad with willing partners, however, the proliferation of polyamory makes it a better time to play this dangerous game.
If you want to stay with the girl, you're kidding yourself if you think it'll magically work out. It worked out 'exceptionally well' for me and was still mostly a disaster that helped ruin my marriage despite the cool gf's/3somes/4somes it resulted in.
how fat are you?
remember, women care primarily about looks. no self-respecting woman would be seen with an unattractive man.
make yourself hotter as rapidly as humanly possible.
buy a motorcycle, quit your job, and lift full-time.
I got into an accident with some woman at a chick fil a, and she started freaking out at me, then I told her "Can you stop being a bitch?" and she got all quiet and submissive, it was so surreal. She just calmed down and started acting normal.
Doesn't work unless you're mormon (lol)
God, she's beautiful
You have to leave the house. I met my wife at a bar when I went to see my friends band play. We were both the first there and I saw her drawing on napkins. I went up, introduced myself and started drawing with her. We then danced all night (even if you are a shit dancer like me you will find that women will still like you more if you aren't afraid and dance with them). I took her to a Cuban restaurant afterwards and then I played guitar for her on the beach. We just started hanging out after that
Every GF I have ever had was a result of me making a move and being in a public place. Key is, meet people doing what you love and they'll likely be somewhat similar/ fun to hang out with.
Also, people computer bound on discord don't reflect people IRL
Just need to go to any Church that allows same sex marriage.
Yup. now extrapolate that into a relationship where you see the same person every day. They are going to get crazy for no reason every once in a while. And despite the fact that all cognitive reasoning goes out the window in the moment, after she will reflect and say either "wow, he didn't do shit to control me, hes a bitch" or, "Damn, he is so confident he even told me to sit my crazy ass down."
It's not that its a test or anything, its just how their minds work. Sometimes though, they are testing you, but you can usually tell pretty quick if thats the case, and you really pull a sneaky on them when you call them out for trying to manipulate you.
>Also, people computer bound on discord don't reflect people IRL
Thank god, am I right? People on Discord are literal cunts dude. I hate 90% of them.
most of the women in my life don't exhibit bitchy behavior desu
It works if you're alpha enough to keep your women in check and don't mind them having loads more sex than you.
>not having multiple wives
What a fucking cuck
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