Seems like everyone in the MSM says Iraq was wrong, especially on the left, but should we come out and say 'no', 'Iraq was the right thing to do'?
Pro war arguments: >Iraq was going to become a failed state soon >Saddam was a psychopath who had used WMDS before >Turkey / others would soon invade too >Iran would soon take it over if it could (like it has now) >Iraq was sponsoring terrorism >Iraq had invaded US allies (Kuwait) >Western Hegemony works best with democratic alliances not unstable regimes >It was finishing the job that Bush 41 should have finished
Anti war arguments: >Saddam was more stable than what came after >The war left Iraq a mess of terrorism >Iran is making Iraq into a vassal state as we speak >It cost 7 trillion dollars >The American people did not get the oil anyway >Cheney and co had their own corrupt reasons for the war >It has made the Middle East more unstable >It was continuing the mess that Bush 41 made
To me, the argument about Iraq 'failing' is the most compelling one. Was Saddam really going to make Iraq a failed state in the near future? He had invaded US allies as well of course.
It was stupid and neocons should all hang. I'm still ashamed that I did support it out of being an edgy contrarian faggot.
Asher Johnson
the iraq and afghani war has drained the entire western world for 20 years, fuck no. total disaster for everybody involved (except the jews).
Juan Davis
At the time I remember the main criticism of the war being that 'America should have sorted Saddam out back in the gulf war instead of doing it this way'.
It didn't help that the left are dishonest anyway so they opposed the war for no other reason than not liking Bush for the most part.
Jose Green
However, opposing the war and dealing with the consequences are two things.
For example, Iran is now making Iraq into it's proxy due to the pullout of US support.
Austin Smith
>Was the Iraq war justified? yup. haven't seen any hijacked planes flying into buildings lately.
also: the camel fucking world needed to see what you get when you do things like that. it really is that simple.
Julian Long
So what? Iran wouldn't be our enemy if we didn't make them into our enemy (because of jews).
Brandon Long
The main criticism I remember is Americans not caring about having an international consensus on Saddam having to croak.
But yes, I supported it mainly because I was young and retarded enough to follow the "left is always wrong" principle.
Cooper Stewart
So what? Had we not invaded Iraq, Iran’s influence over Iraq would not be where it is today. Not to mention, Iran helped us during the invasion of Afghanistan. They helped out in the takeover of Heart City.
Eli Foster
Iran expanding its regional influence is not a good thing. You can say that the neocon obsession about Iran is bad but also say that Iran is not a friend. The ayatollahs are a bunch of fanatics who have half the population against them as it is.
Never forget that Iran issues Fatwas on those who it says insulted Islam, that in itself is enough to make them an enemy of the free world.
Right or wrong it's what the majority of people wanted at the time in the West. The problem with Iraq was Junior asserting job done and fucking off while simultaneously stopping the people who could reform a working government from doing so.
Josiah Morales
I agree, but remember, Saddam only existed because the US made him exist too. That in itself was the initial mistake. So you can't claim that someone is overtly following the neocon agenda on that because originally the neocons propped up Saddam when it was useful.
The arab league also agreed that Saddam must go in 2002.
Ryder Wood
go to bed, John
Kayden Nguyen
Iranians are aryans, I probably have more in common with them than I do with you. They're only an enemy of the "free world" because the free world keeps droning civilians and creating terror groups in their region.
Joseph Wilson
Hillary and the entire Democrat establishment supported the war.
Ian Robinson
How is the ayatollah good because of that? Iran used to be a decent country before the CIA got involved, which has directly led to the religious theocratic lunatics running it today.
Most of the Iranian youths don't like the religious fundies who lead them by the way, which isn't surprising.
Yes but at the time who spoke about that?
Jaxon Stewart
The Iraq war did not benefit the United States white middle class in any way shape or form.
Ethan Murphy
>The problem with Iraq was Junior asserting job done and fucking off while simultaneously stopping the people who could reform a working government
That was obama. He pulled the rug out. Are all strayans so colossally, backwardly uninformed?
Elijah Miller
>Iraq >Link to Saudi and Al-Qaeda-orchestrated 9/11 k kid
Jackson Diaz
>The problem with Iraq was Junior asserting job done and fucking off while simultaneously stopping the people who could reform a working government from doing so.
Barry O was the one who really did that, but you're right in that, as late as 2006, troops were being pulled out.
Leaving Iraq was a mistake no matter which way you cut it, but Obama really messed it up.
We should invade Saudi Arabia. They're going to become a despotic failed state shithole soon enough too, it's inevitable. And they'll install an anti Western leader as a result of the current west propping up the house of Saud.
I'm not saying the ayatollah regime is good. What I'm saying is, if we stopped fucking around in the middle east and fucking with Iran out of our allegiance with Israel they wouldn't be so fundamentalistic and pissed off at us.
I agree, Iran could potentially become worthwhile as a trading partner for the US, but it will never happen as long as things are this way.
The ayatollahs aren't going to go without a fight, and there will unironically be more unrest in Iran in the future, don't know when, in spite of US sanctions and so on this will be true too. (Sanctions actually entrench the hardliners because it proves them right to hate the USA)
I see Saudi Arabia as a literal country that is at war with us all though right now. And it's disgusting that they're propped up by the West.
HOWEVER!
I can see a future in which, as unlikely as it sounds, action did get taken against the Saudis, and I'd expect the left to be against that too and they'd cite the Iraq war.
Jordan Flores
likewise
William Flores
The world would be a better place with Saddam Hussein in it, The Bush family survivors and all involved should be executed for war crimes
You we're also doing (((their))) bidding. Syria was supposed to be next under Hillary.
Luis Sanchez
oof yikes ouch btfo again by der ewige leaf
Jose Reyes
Then why does the MSM say Iraq was a 'mistake' now?
Isaac Roberts
no, and that faggot hitchens was a jew, proclaimed himself a jew, becasue they wanted to destroy the west. he actually said this on camera.
Jayden Clark
He never said he wanted to 'destroy the West'.
Gavin Martinez
Jews always play both sides. If you were a Jow Forumsack you'd already know that by now.
Lincoln Mitchell
Being a jew is anti-white.
Lucas Bell
>Iraq was going to become a failed state soon The government was functional, Kurds, Sunnis, and Shia's were nor murdering eachother en masse, oil revenues were soaring post-9/11 >Saddam was a psychopath who had used WMDS before But he disarmed according to UN agreement >Turkey / others would soon invade too LOL >Iran would soon take it over if it could (like it has now) This was only possible because we deposed an hanged the man keeping them together >Iraq was sponsoring terrorism *cough* all of our (allies))) in the middle east *cough* >Iraq had invaded US allies (Kuwait) This was settled in the first gulf wae >Western Hegemony works best with democratic alliances not unstable regimes Historically where has this been the case outside of Europe? >It was finishing the job that Bush 41 should have finished Subjective to the point that it is not worth mentioning in the slightest
Parker Russell
How does your anti war argument not include that 1,000,000 Iraqis died? Plus all the American soldiers.
Ethan Rodriguez
>To me, the argument about Iraq 'failing' is the most compelling one. Was Saddam really going to make Iraq a failed state in the near future? He had invaded US allies as well of course. I think he had learned his lesson about engaging in conventional warfare against US allies. With oil profits being as they were in early 2003 and lack of internal conflict in Iraq at the time I just don't see merit to the "failed state" hypothesis
Bentley Perez
>'America should have sorted Saddam out back in the gulf war instead of doing it this way'. 'King Salman has been breathing down our necks about this for twelve fucking years!'
Charles Morris
>The government was functional How was the govt functional? Saddam was under huge UN sanctions since long before then.
>Disarmed He could have rearmed if he wanted, he had used WMDs before
>LOL If Iraq had failed then it would have happened.
>Only possible I agree, and the withdrawl of the US from Iraq paved the way for that.
>All of our allies Iraq should not be excused just because the KSA is doing it too. I think they are an enemy of the West without question.
>When had this been the case When it hasn't been the case it has usually ended in disaster. As I said, Saddam was made by the US.
Jeremiah Cruz
Saddam was under huge sanctions from the UN long before the war
