People have guns

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

Reality:

> People have no weapons
> Criminals always have weapons

> Civilians do not have the right to protect themselves
>Civilians are now obedient cattle.

Although, I do not mind if the murikans does not have weapons.

WTF is so hard to understand that people still get shot when civilians are disarmed?

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I love how everyone in this thread going apeshit just illustrates how there really is no winning argument against OP

Too many guns = too many dead

>people have hands
>people get strangled

>people don't have hands
>people don't get strangled

SERIOUSLY WTF IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS

People get shot in Mexico all the time and they only have 1 gun store in the entire country.
Your argument is in bad faith.

I've actually known more people who've gotten stabbed rather than shot.

Brazil? Mexico?

>Poland nobody have guns
>still we have shootings between gangs.

Buy one, try one, put it in your Jew mouth. Pull the trigger faggot. Do it!

Too many knives = too many dead

In Mexico a lot of people die.

Nobody is going "apeshit" moron. We're just pointing out that OP cannot get basic facts right. There is no winning against OP because OP is a clinical retard.

Try harder.

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Ever hear of place called London

criminals can easily get guns.

Look at gun crime in gun "control" states.

>live in a country with strict gun control
>criminals often have guns better then our police and shoot people

How is this possible with gun control?

People get shot here all the time?

What makes you think I have a problem with people getting shot?

>people dont have guns
>people buy knives instead
>butter knives banned
When you turn a country into a prison then anything can be turned into a fucking shank

Stabbings are better because there is no big BOOM so all the asswholes look to see what happened ....they just fall down and the rest of the asswholes walking by thing the stabbed guy is a lazy shit bum or just drunk while the stabber gets away!

The demographics of USA is probably the problem. In Europe, we don't need to have guns, because there are 98+ % of Whites (at least in post-communist states).

In America you have 12 % of Blacks and God know how many per cent of spic. That'S maybe why you need guns.

But apart from that, if there are guns, there will be school and other massacres. If there are no guns, there will be hardly anything. A lot of shootings is because there is easy access to guns.

But I'm not telling you what to do. It'S probably not easy to live in America and slowly become minority in your own country.

>people don't have guns
>people get stabbed
>people don't have knives
>people get their heads crushed by rocks
We have more murders than the US, for one.

b-but user, governments killing a tens of millions of their own people around the world just in the past century isn't important an issue for a rational humans to care about because today this week my street I live on is safe.

See what actually matters is, niggers, criminals and spree killer fags might off a dozen people next month somewhere.

youtube.com/watch?v=y6E2hwvMzzA

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Stabbing is better. Try and ban sharp objects!

>just make 400 million guns go away
>just make the 2nd amendment go away

HURR ITS SO SIMPLE HURRR

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Ever notice how faggots like this never call for a FULL disarmament; only ever a civilian one. Thereby admitting guns have legitimate uses. They just hilariously believe for some odd fucking reason that institutions most of them distrust if not outright hate should be the only ones with guns.
Stop fucking making white males the only socially acceptable targets for "hate" and fucking crack down on the pharmaceutical industry's child experimentation bullshit, those things will go WAY farther to actually solving the problem than deleting the guns from civilians will.

These are valid arguments except that we need cars and banning alcohol has been tried and doesn't work.

without guns what am i going to shoot people with? seriously no gun grabber has ever been able to answer this

Its not that simple. An abundance of guns is always correlated with increased gun homicides. The main argument is that there is no substitute for a gun as a murder weapon that is as handy, deadly, and effective overall, so libs believe that if you reduced gun ownership, the homicide rate overall would drop as well. In my opinion not a very sound proposal if compared with the benefits and the right to own one, but statistically, its not exactly a wrong claim to make.

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Fucking retard

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Just stab the asswholes.
Bronx Community Mourns Brutal Stabbing Death Of 15-Year-Old youtube.com/watch?v=ZX4HwMU-jgM

>banning alcohol has been tried and doesn't work
Same with drugs. You'd think those things would get across the point that a gun ban would also fail in the same way for the same reasons.

>Criminals will obey gun laws because we'll make them illegal!

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>people have niggers
>get [insert your death cause here]

Stab gun grabbers! You don't need a high capacity magazine. Look what you can do in 25 seconds!
Man stabbed '18 times in 25 seconds' on train youtube.com/watch?v=wZsaXxtfuRg

Disarm everyone in the world. Oh, not possible? You can't have my gun. Sorry. What kind of gun do I have you ask. None of your fucking business.

It's the little things that give away which arm one masturbates with.

>People have guns
>They shoot niggers
Or
>People don't have guns
>Niggers rape your kids

Stabbing is very effective. All gun grabbers should be stabbed.
Boyfriend arrested in stabbing death of woman youtube.com/watch?v=nIZhOv6jbRY

>People don’t have guns
>People get stabbed
What is so hard about this? In order to fix mass shooting deaths you have to fix mass hysteria and mental illness

What do gun grabber? WTF do you need to understand now? 0:05 / 2:03Pregnant Woman Stabbed To Death In Queens youtube.com/watch?v=6Wuh4RvsKRk

People will always have guns, just like you will always have a mental illness.

>people have no guns
>people get acid thrown in their faces or stabbed

retard

If we have a crime problem, what makes you think removing the ability for non criminals to own weapons?
The most gun crimes occurs in cities with limited rights on gun ownership

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You stupid fucking animal

So, banning guns won’t work in the short run as there’s already tons of firearms circulating. But where they’ve been banned for a longer time -> less guns around

Of course criminals still fairly easily get guns, but they shoot each other (-> less criminals)

Mass shootings = less, because the ill people who do such things don’t have contacts -> can’t get guns

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Ask Britain. You can't even buy a spoon without a license there anymore. If people want to kill each other they find a way. US has a lot of dangerous animals called niggers, which attacks everything in sight. Get away from there, it is not safe.

>Don't have contacts

Do you know how easy it is to get a gun illegally?

I'm in Canada and I can have a gun within 3 days

It's insanely easy to get a firearm illegally. Making all sales illegal only punished the people who were already following the law

Mass shootings are statistically irellevant by the way

Also (and don't think I'm not saging), guns are banned in Mexico, and yet people get very shot. Yet you're proposing the same policy.

Well user the DHS is hiring Mental Health Technicians all over the US so you will get your wish! All you have to do is have a High School Diploma! Just llike private prison they don't start these programs not to make money and just wait for loons. Everyone will be considered nuts! Keep saying the false flag shit is mental health. Your response is coming SOON
dhs.state.il.us/page.aspx?item=81109
They will be your tenders at the DHS development centers
dhs.state.il.us/page.aspx?item=31359
They will be privatized for PROFIT. It's coming. They are recruiting in hick towns on the grocery store bulletin boards out here. The job advertised and like a hundred tear off tabs with the number to apply to. HS diploma? No prob. The "training"will make them Mental Health experts for (You) This is what one looks like. Look at all those happy faces! humandevelopmentcenter.org/

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You can just fill a squirt bottle with ammonia. It will work just fine.

We legitimately need to start locking you retards up.

Whats wrong with what he said? Criminals get their guns mostly from the black market (which is supplied by corrupt gun dealers and guns stolen from civilians; almost all illegal guns circulating in the US are of domestic origin.) A federal restriction on guns would, theoretically, reduce gun homicides. Thats just a positive correlation.
I believe gun rights should stay the way they are right now, but what he said isnt technically wrong.

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No guns equals more black crime.

What I forgot to add: Mass shootings make up 1% or less of gun homicides in the US overall, so basing legislation around them is fucky as it is. Furthermore, a gun restriction in any way would not meaningfully prevent them, if we are referring to the FBIs definiton (mass shootings comitted out of political extremism, reasons unknown, or mental illness)

Kekekekekekek

You should get shot though.

What about stabbing people? It's nice and quiet. Stab a gun grabber today

I always found this argument to be very shallow. Guns are simply the most effective way to kill someone, moreso than knives or anything else. Whereever they are abundant, they become the most prominent choice in killing someone (Thats not just the US, if compared with other nations that have either very lax gun laws or an abundance of guns, save for failed states or countries at war, gun homicides always rise when guns are present.) So the claim is basically that no guns>less homicides overall. I dont believe in that myself, as I stated above, it should stay the way it is. But the knives argument doesnt work in the face of logical comparison.

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sorry to burst your bubble, but honestly guns are pretty easy to make, and all the manufacturer's blueprints are on the interwebs. EVEN you could build your own AK if your wanted to. A little bit of tooling and you can be the Che Guevara of North America. Go forth and free the oppressed from the vice of the internationalist capitalist.

Nice try but not good enough. When guns are gone the lemmings just stab.
standard.co.uk/news/crime/1000-knife-crime-victims-in-london-each-month-shocking-new-figures-show-8681511.html
Go stab your snatch with something greasy.

>people have guns
>people can defend themselves from other people with guns

>people don’t have guns
>people get shot by others with guns

Not a difficult solution if your IQ is above 85. If you are against other people having guns, then don’t defend yourself with guns/your hands or pepper spray or anything is someone attacks you or wants to rape you, since that is what you wish upon others. Gun grabbers are the worst scum in existence

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>don't have a gun
>have to google how to tie a noose
I don't want to live in that world, OP

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Lad, giving me an article about stabbings in the UK does not disprove my argument in any way. Yes, when guns are gone, people resort to other methods of killing. The argument that people in favour of gun restriction make (for the bazillionth time, I do not support gun control) is that it would reduce murders overall because there is simply no substitute that is as deadly and handy at the same time. I dont understand why americans on here always resort to ad hominem when I suggest that maybe, probably, it would even work, even if I CLARIFY that despite all, I would still not infringe on it.

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Or this one for that matter. But that's irrelevant!

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

>people don't have guns
>government shoot the people without guns
SERIOUSLY WTF IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS
Fixed that for you OP.

even if banning guns completely eradicated all types of crime nationwide, it would still be our right to own them

More people are murdered without firearms than with firearms. Discounting suicides and police shootings actual gun murders are so few they may as well be a statistical anaomly. Faggot nigger.

Seeing that we just had a mass shooting in my country today, and we banned guns over a 100 years ago. I see a flaw in your argument.

>take peoples guns
>people get new guns
>people still get shot
>waste billions in taxes to rinse and repeat

Whats so hard to understand about this?

E V E R Y W H E R E

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I just saw that, I forgot to sage too, but not this time

We don't need cars. Humanity got along fine for hundreds of thousands of years before cars. You just want them because they're convenient. Well guess what, shooting people who break into my home is convenient for me.

There's no such thing as an illegal gun according to the 2nd amendment. Nobody can take them from you either.

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Guns are not the most common implement of murder in the US. Restricting their availability will have a negligible effect on total crime

ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-4.xls
Im sorry to disappoint you, but they are.

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>muh niggers

whataboutism

>SERIOUSLY WTF IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS
It's a childish, naive belief, that shows a toddler's understanding of criminality. It's like saying gun free zones prevent mass shootings, when in fact mass shootings happen exclusively in gun free zones.

srsly how did thread get past this post?

>people don't have guns
>people get axed
That's how it happens around here. Where there's a will, there's a way.

Checked

>people have penises
>people get raped

>people don't have penises
>nobody gets raped

SERIOUSLY WTF IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS

You first.

There are more than half a billion guns in the US. Building them is a trivial exercise. Anyone dumb enough to think they're going anywhere is too dumb to be roaming free in society.