Imagine actually trying to invade a mountain fortress the size of a fucking country...

Imagine actually trying to invade a mountain fortress the size of a fucking country, zoomers would take at least 100k to 250k casualties taking this place riding humvves blasting 6ix9ine, there is a reason this country has existed for thousands of years, geography is completely against a US invasion, progress would be painfully slow as every valley would be atopped by snipers, mountain traps and ambushes. A deeply nationalistic nation that has been preparing for decades by building defences, bunkers and hideouts all over the place. Now with more modern technology 4 generation warfare has become utterly ruthless as the everyday person now has access to 200 dollar drones that could drop grenades or deliver cemtex, cars and trucks with new driverless tech filled with huge bombs. This war be the bloodiest conflict ever fought in US history rivaling even ww2, it may even surpass from the sheer amount of injured from IEDS and sucide bombings. This war is where the U.S. empire goes to die !

Your thoughts?

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No one's going to do a land invasion you dumb mutt. They'll just pound them from air for as long as they like and Iranians on the ground after having their air defences wiped out in one day will be virtually defenceless and Americans can keep bombing them for 1 week or several months or for however long they like, and Iran will just have to take it without being able to do anything back.

America excels at air wars, they are cowards when it comes to ground wars. If they try to invade by ground, they will get ass raped like they did in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. But they won't, they'll just make it a purely air war like in Yugoslavia, and will suffer barely any losses that way.

Fake and gay.

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Seething le amerimutt belives just air power alone can win a war, hurp durp what about the ground, you would have to push soldiers in the country to secure it you Mexican goblin. But but muh 2 million dollar bomb is better than a 50 dollar ak and nomads ied.

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>If they try to invade by ground, they will get ass raped like they did in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.

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>6ix9ine is still relevant

>wikipedia

fuck off shlomo

America can wipe out the Iranian air force, navy, and army without suffering a single casualty if they wanted to. I'll let you decide if that's "winning" or "losing".

fpwp
Like Iran didn't prepare for that. Whatever.

>They'll just pound them from air
They'll start firing missiles on your carriers and airfields as soon as they detect a squadron flying their ways. You get one shot at it, and can shoot down all your non-stealth jets.

Why don't you actually contest those numbers then?
Waging a land war isn't a problem for us. The problem is the lack of forethought we put into occupation and what comes next (Iraq and Afghanistan). We were cucked out of any offensive land operations into North Vietnam, that's why we "lost" because we could never win in the first place. When we can go for an all out offensive, pic related happens.

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Why do you assume the US wants to invade. Iran has nothing of value. We just need to knock them back to Stone Age with well placed missile strikes, so you eurofags have enough gas to get to work and the grocery store.

Not gonna happen

I dont know anyone that seriously wants war with iran

Spoken like a true lead

>shock n awh baby

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US do not have army big enough to atack Iran on land.

>He thinks Iran will let the US bomb them to oblivion without raining a thousand missiles on every US, Israeli and Saudi bases within a 2000km range
Spoken like a true slave of the chosen people.

Easy points of attack straight into the belly of Mudslimes

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Name a single war that was won purely with air power. A single one.

I'm waiting.

The USA could march into Tehran in a matter of weeks. Occupying Iran and making the population submit to the US’s will is a very different matter. That would make Iraq look like football game in terms of casualties

America only has to get 25 kills to call in a tactical nuke on Tehran

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>He wants to go through two flat deserts that are completely forsaken and is among the places with the highest temperatures recorded
Those two places can easily be defended using mines and air strikes, assuming your soldiers don't cook inside your tanks that don't have AC.

Iraq is a largely flat dessert with only one major road and river supporting most of its cities. And the civil unrest was leagues larger than the unrest in Iran today.
It wouldn’t be an Iraq war 2.0 it’d be a Vietnam war 2.0. Seriously this kind of thinking got us into the Vietnam war.

That’s ignoring the fact that Iran has nuclear warheads

Fuck saudi arabia kiddo we just lookin for a reason to test our new space weapons trump will GG 30 mins or less to brag about being greatest warrior in history screenshot this

We did the exact same thing in Iraq and they didn’t think we would be able to do it either. Of course they had no idea how good our god was to allow us to do that.

The Americans don't operate like that, they fight media wars, they capture cities like Baghdad and Kabul and declare victory once they install a puppet government, the fighting can go on for eternity, it's good for business.

Rushing through the desert and taking the capital while trying desperately to avoid all engagements isn't a victory. When the Americans entered Nasiriyah and Karbala they were clobbered by infantry with out dated Russian equipment. They are cowards and can't fight for shit without air cover. They were never able to fully hold and secure any part of Iraq during their occupation. And it's a known fact your government makes up bullshit statistics about casualties to hide your losses.

Kosovo

Lol gps, not god

Those are choke points that would bog down any advancing force that isn’t cautious of the mountainous terrain

>the Iranians will fight a guerrilla war like Vietnam

Nah m8 Persians are fairly civilized, we take out Tehran they'll largely surrender.

>where going to bomb them with impunity amd open borders.

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First you have to get to the desert. The caspian sea is closed and only accessible through an artificial canal and Russia won't let you get there in a million years. They'll shoot at any boats that land in the south via the gulf of oman.If by any chance you do get there, they can easily cut off your resupply lines and you'll still encounter fucking mountains as soon as you leave the desert, since every major city is surrounded by them. Military analysts that are significantly more competent than you came to that conclusion.

If DC was occupied I doubt hillbillies wouldn’t take the immediate chance to play hero. Same with Iranians

Last I checked leaf we’ve been waging economic warfare on Iran for the last 2 years. Seems to be working. Some carpet bombing to augment couldn’t hurt.

>one surprise attack raid kills 1 guy

BTFO??

America has air bases in Bahrain and the Emirates, along with Afghanistan, Pakistan, and maybe even Turkey. They don't need to rely solely on carriers. Even if Iran does have one or two air defence systems capable of hitting American planes, the first few days of sorties will be carried out mostly with stealth aircraft focused mainly on wiping out their air defence capabilities. Once air defence capabilities are wiped out (whether or not they were capable of shooting down American planes in the first place), it will be open season on Iran with regular non-stealth planes.

>Iran has a massive armed populace with an ideological love for their nations capitol, a unified culture and a history of fighting for independence

You are a dumb fucking nigger.

Zoomers would be sucking their own dicks in a pow camp lol

>Iran has nothing of value.
Imagine having to pay thousands from your paycheck into the state treasury only to have them wasted on this fucking bright brain.

People who post wikipedia statistics are the niggers of the internet

have fun dying for greater isreal amerimutts

>And Russia will stand by and do nothing.

LOL. Australian education.
Have some kebab, you deserved it.

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Think I'll invest in coffins.

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Albanian ground forces fought the Yugoslavs. Try again.
You're dodging the question. I'm asking for a single war that was won purely via airpower with no ground support, which is what people like you are proposing. You can't retort because it's pure fantasy made up by warhawks to justify shit wars.

What does iran have of value?

Plenty of kikes in Australia, must be one.

>Iran has nothing of value.
Iran sits on one of the biggest oil wells, has uranium and natural resources, you uneducated burger.

We wouldn't invade all of Iran. It IS too mountainous and would bog us down. We merely have to annihilate the Iranian air and missile threat, and then occupy Abadan/Khuzestan. This is the southwest corner of Iran, that is flat and easy to occupy.

It is also a major center for their oil production, and although oil is worked in other provinces, this runs through that region through the center. Iran would not be able to export any oil unless it goes through russia.

Iran would collapse once it was pounded hourly by US bombers and it's oil industry was occupied.

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>implying Russia unironically gives a shit about Iran

Imagine being this deluded. Russia gave Israel a green light to attack as many Iranian forces in Syria as they want and in the past supported sanctions resolutions against Iran. Russia doesn't even like Iran, they at best see them as an alliance of convenience. More often than not they see them as a rival.

Heres how you do Vietnam squirt.

Genuine question, you do realize the US is a net oil exporter?

With pic...

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>Albanian ground forces fought the Yugoslavs. Try again.

It was the US bombing campaign that got Serb forces to withdraw. It wasn't Albanian guerillas that were wrecking Belgrade, they were not even close to the determining factor in the outcome of that war.

I'm not a kike you dumb iranian diaspora shithead. Imagine shilling so hard for the regime that kicked out your parents for being degenerates.

the US would collapse shortly after

>Taking over a US military compound housing 60 burgers with 9-12 people and getting out of it without any causalities shows how well they executed the raid. And they haven't even used their own men, they used proxies.

Genuine question, you do realize the US has enough nukes to kill the world 1000x over?

Russia will kick your behinds if you did that. Russia knows that if Iran goes down, they'll go down.

You're correct, the additional air support won the war. But it wasn't the only factor, since there were already ground forces in the fight. It was air power used to support an existing rebellion. It's not air support used to start and win a war single-handedly, like retards are suggesting for Iran.

Four hundred 250 kilotonners, mostly airburst, but feel free to use as many laydown and EP's as required to kill off the leadership caste, such 'brains' as exist in ayatolahville and destroy all military and industrial capacity. Really go after infrastructure, and fuck the fall out, it all lands on other mooks and poo's.
Shoot the survivors in the dark.
But, I'd do all of the fucks at the same time, particularly the saudi's and africa.
Quit fucking around, 'cause it's happening anyway, 'tis better if we pull the trigger
Ween for the species.

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>America has air bases in Bahrain and the Emirates, along with Afghanistan, Pakistan, and maybe even Turkey
All within the range of their missiles. Hezbollah has 150k missiles. Iran is funding hezbollah. God knows how many missiles Iran has. What ever that number might be, it's enough to destroy every hangar and military base that surrounds them.

>Even if Iran does have one or two air defence systems capable of hitting American planes
They have more than one or two, and they can all hit non-stealth planes, and they have newer ones that they claim are able to hit stealth planes, although that is still to be seen.
>the first few days of sorties will be carried out mostly with stealth aircraft focused mainly on wiping out their air defence capabilities.
And the point is that after the first strike, they'll launch everything at the ship, bases and airfields, preventing the US from bombing their air defences. Unlike Iraq, they can actually strike back.
>it will be open season on Iran with regular non-stealth planes.
Assuming most of them haven't been sunk or destroyed and assuming the death toll from the first few days didn't make the americans reconsider.

You can win a war with just air power alone, continuous carpet bombing mountains and everything dropping bio weapons and chemical weapons, till nothing is left it may take a few years but you would win.

Give a single example. Something better than "your ass".

>You can win a war with just air power alone, continuous carpet bombing mountains and everything dropping bio weapons and chemical weapons, till nothing is left it may take a few years but you would win.
Hmm, remind me again how successful that was during the vietnam war? I have a bad memory.

>this dumbfuck doesn't realize Iraq is a flat plain, while Iran is one row of mountains after another.
This post shows the sorry level of US education and generalized dumbification from TV.

It is high risk for Russia to let Iran unprotected. Won't happen, Russia will do what it can to keep Iran just as they kept Syria. If Iran goes down, then the Middle East becomes Greater Israel and Russia becomes next to be defeated. Remember, Jews want Russia gone, they tried with Bolshevism to defeat Russia but they couldn't so they want to try it with Iran and then Russia will be next.

>I dont know anyone that seriously wants war with iran
You must not know any rich people.

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You do realise Russia has more nukes than uncle sam?

Did America even use bio weapons though ? They used napalm. I’m saying just bomb it all day all night 365 days a year till even the sand and mountains are no longer there l, drop tonnnes off tnt watch them mountains crumble down

>Fuck saudi arabia
That county is the only reason why your currency is worth the paper it's printed on and defending it would be the main objective and the only reason why you would send people to die there.

Very, it brought them to the peace table after we got serious about it.

the mutts will take out their air defenses then hit them with multiple tomahakws and JASSMs every hour until they surrender.

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They're just a bunch of screeching sand apes, you realize this don't you? I remember before Bush started 2nd iraqi war there used to be a lot of propaganda about Saddam having advanced military but suddenly they all disappeared right after Americans showed up. They're all cowards and pussies.
Khamenei will end up hiding like a rat in a literal cesspit, screencap this.

>mountain traps

I can only get so erect.

They used chemicals that razed entire forests and left the Vietnamese with crippling birth defects.

they wont bomb them they will shoot cruise missiles from the safety of gulf country airspace.

>there is a reason this country has existed for thousands of years

Totally not true.

The seething mutts are all in absolute denial, but muh 1 billion plane, but muh 12 billion aircraft carrier but but muh, go neck youself le 51% goblins

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then they don't surrender
and every night thousands of guerillas leave caves in the mountains and murder american zoomers at bases
and this goes on for 10 years
I thought shillary was the one that was going to invade iran burgers?

Is anybody even actually going to do anything? Trump has talked a big game before. I remain skeptical that we're actually going to go to war with Iran or anybody else. His dovish instincts are too strong.

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As long as I can go out Bumping young boy and kevin gates and I get to fuck some iranian sluts I dont care

"winning" depends on what the criteria of the war is. If "winning" is defined as regime change, taking or holding an area, defending a territory, then yeah you probably need the most basic level of infantry at least to hold territory on the ground, like with the Albanian militias in Kosovo. If the goal of the war is simply to fuck the other side up, destroy their military by a significant amount, destroy certain buildings and inflict structural damage, that can be done simply by an air war.

As far as I know, America has no plans for regime change in Iran. If a war starts, it will be an air war, nothing more, nothing less. Iran might fire some missiles back and some air defence missiles into the sky but after the first few days, these will whither out and America will have air superiority and be able to bomb iran with impunity until a point where they say that's enough.


You're deluded. Iran is not a superpower, it's a third world shithole under sanctions with a sub-par military, vastly inferior technology, and a shrinking economy. Their best planes are the ones that Iraq sent to escape bombing in 1991 and Iran stole and kept for themselves, and leftovers from what America gave to the Shah in the 70's. They don't have the technology or the ability to inflict any large damage on America's air force and after America wipes out their air defence in the first few days, they will be helpless for the duration of the war.

Dumb Iranian diaspora, can't wait to see your shithole bombed to dust. Maybe you should go back and join them.

Iran-Iraq war. Look into it.

>thirdwolrd shithole
have you ever been to Iran? it's fucking beautiful, everyone has pools and large gardens

>thinks the US sends men in
lmaoooooo

Actually, the '72 strikes and aerial mining did a fucking great job of ending the Easter offensive, cutting the supply lines, shutting down Haiphong, wiping out POL, cutting the rail links to china, gutting the air defence network and twisting the gooks dicks until objectives, albeit limited, were met. The dinks blinked, and had to toss in the towel. That the situation was beyond salvaging at that point goes with out saying.
The RVN leadership was too corrupt and too compromised to prevent inevitable collapse.
The success of the air campaign was due to Dickie Nixon giving the puzzle palace a green light to fight militarily, not politically, and the first large deployment of modern night/all weather fire control and PGM's. It was the first modern air and naval campaign.

>You're deluded. Iran is not a superpower
You're an idiot. You don't need a superpower to defend your own borders because it requires no power projection. If you want to invade a country, you need to move a shit ton of men,equipment, vehicles, food and so on. If you want to defend yourself, you got everything you need right there. Beside, we've seen how the so called superpower got buttfucked in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria.

Also Israel becomes carpeted with missiles daily.
If Iran falls, Hezbollah falls and their mindset suggests they'd rather drag Israel with them.

Absolute retard

It would be hard fought but we would still absolutely kick their asses all day, every day, twice on Sunday. Until they fling a nuke at us. But that would give us justification to nuke them back one thousand fold. I'm not sure if they would do it.

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This. Iran can't defeat America without Russia, but they don't have to. Iran will just defeat Israel and they can do that easily.

If killing civilians was not a concern then invading the middle sat would not be a problem. The only reason we had problems in Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam is because we have so many moral fags in this country. If you really want to invade Iran you have to be able to indescrimnatly kill everyone like how the mongols did it.

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>Let's ignore human rights to please our Zionist masters

Won't happen.

>the mongols
retard

Seeth more then mabye you could have won Vietnam, hahaha oh but no you lost to 4 generation warfare, all those expensive toys can't do Jack shit to a guy with a ak sat in a rat tunnel waiting for US soldiers to walk over him. Just admit it the age of the modern military is over and the age of gurila warfare has just begun

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they wont go for a regime change, just pwn the ranians and leave them broken. Its a very dumb plan but remember we are dealing with mutts here.

Bunker bust grid square. Place troops, bunker bust next grid square. Etc

yeah , buy you american narcissists aren't the mongols. you guys worship bbd's.

but**. you are sissies for bbd's.