Do you have a problem with solar energy?
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I have problem with aussies pretending sun emits energy. Sun simply emits warm vibrations. Go back to school, uneducated heathen swine
I don't want the sun to get turned off.
>pretending sun emits energy.
would you like me to turn it off for you and we'll see what happens?
Not surprising a Fin isn't familiar with the concept of a sun.
Try me, faggot
You have let 90% of your country become sun-scorched desert and you think you are in the position to lecture about the properties of sun? I laugh at your helplessness.
Yes, I don't like self important weaklings.
No I think we should all use solar glass
The boilers are fine but the panels are pretty much counterproductive.
On Earth? Yes.
In space attached to and as a way to recover the cost of an orbital ring? No, it's brilliant and we should have done it 20 years ago.
not really, but fosil fuels are better
You let your country be literal snow and positioned next to Russia. What could be more cucked?
what a plebfag you really are..if you own a house + + photovoltaik + battery you could basically cover 100% of your energy consumption with that, what's not to like about being self-sufficient?
>fosil fuels are better
why do you think that?
solar energy is actually perfect for third world nations, most specifically islands in the Pacific, for renewable energy
Aside from that shit, it's a fucking God beam sizzling everyone
>100%
It gets cloudy some places a lot
What are “fossil” fuels?
so it would work fine where there's lots of sun, i find it a bit weird that anyone would have a problem with that
sorry are you butting in? i'm asking that other person why they think that
>sorry are you butting in?
I hope you stub your toe.
I’m done with you
true to some extent, I included sending energy you don't use to your provider for credits. you can get pretty close
No, but what about nights? Or bad weather? Or generally sunless hours? I'm sure it works for you penal colony inhabitants, but not for civilized high-industrialized powerhouses like us.
Clean energy is BS. Have fun plastering every free space with solar cells and wind turbines.
Yeah, it really needs storage for domestic harvesting. Build more dams.
well what they do is they use it to suplement the coal electricity so when there isnt enough solar it switches to the the usual power source which makes up the difference
it makes me really think thoough, i dont really need lighting at night, candles will do. dont even need a fridge. so the only thing i have to power is my computer/music and heater/cooler < thats easy fixed with a an open fire place or a pot belly and as for cooking i dont use much for that either.
maybe some people dont want it because they cant run their offices without it, corporate businesses and what not. but a lot of them are making changes in that area too like i mentioned above.
It was a conscious choice in order to make the finnic race tough and virile. Our sperm count is one of the highest in europe. Coincidence? no such thing
if you have a smart grid you could turn of your freezer off for several hours during night wihtout any bad effect (if it is in a cold cellar room)
Solar is the future, but not the present.
Technological innovation to significantly boost the conversion rate enough to make it workable will eventually happen, but until it does solar won't be viable as anything but a supplementary energy source.
It powers all life on earth. Anyone who has a problem with it needs to gtfo.
What planet are you on? Off-grid solar has been a thing for 5 years already and growing exponentially. Use Google maps to count the panels in any major suburb.
> 10 panels = off grid. Powers an electric car no problem
this user gets it, looking forward to my PV + battery storage
Still not a viable replacement to power a nation, but thanks for playing.
It's inefficient as hell.
Yeah, birds incinerated @5000 degrees, windmills suck too. We need Manley renewable energy... 1minute geo thermal...
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> what a plebfag you really are..if you own a house
Fellow richfag here. I do, but...
> photovoltaik
I would never buy that crap. Makes for a leaky roof (every hardpoint - and you need many - is a potential leak), pay tons of fiatskis to get rid of panels once they die. Same for batteries. Pretty damn stupid move to buy lots of stuff containing heavy metals in a country with such a massive hard-on for (((recycling))) garbage.
> battery
Funnily enough nobody buys a battery backed system because (a) they suck (see also: electric cars) as anything running on batteries tends to and (b) there ain't no subsidies for these. They chew a lot of space, too (enough batteries to run a house on require a few cubic metres of room) and are one hell of a fire/explosion hazard. Also, if you've got batteries - or just solar panels - the fire brigade won't put out any but the most trivial fires in your house because it would be too dangerous for them.
> self sufficient
That's a funny way to spell "subsidized feed-in tariff". None of the house scale solar setups I've ever seen was designed to keep functioning without a working electric grid. Maybe you are the exception from that rule, but Occam's razor says you're just a regular old German who fell for the Solar Jew and feels a need to defend his bad decision now.
yes. it's not nuclear.
Based serb.
I for one do want a nuclear plant in my backyard. In fact I want my backyard inside its perimeter fence so I can watch the Greens at the gate, guiltily begging for a little juice to charge their iphones when the sun don't shine. A nuclear reactor is how you do off grid in style.
>Technological innovation to significantly boost the conversion rate
why havent they done this already?
>to charge their iphones
lets face it no one needs one of those.
True enough. And yet the average leftie will produce no shortage of salty, salty tears if you part him from his beloved fondle slab.
why would anyone have a problem with solar energy, user? imagine an extremely efficient fusion reactor that works 24/7, but no one is there to capture the energy. that's exactly what's going on with the sun. solar panels have relatively low efficiency but that doesn't mean we should stop using them. once we develop a few times more efficient solar panels, a few kilometers square solar farm will be enough to power an entire country. yeah there will be cloudy days, but that doesn't matter if you can store the fucking thing e g tesla power wall.
yes. it's a meme that is only actually profitable in certain situations.
people are buying that shit like crazy where i live but they don't know the shitty efficiency those things have and never clean them up.
here at work the higher ups spent USD 800,000 to install solar panels 3-4 months ago and they are so dirty you can't tell the solar panels from the roof.
it's an absolute waste of money, they would save 3x more money and have the returns much faster if they had invested in replacing the old AC units and buying diesel generators to use at night, when the energy cost goes up by almost 10x.
>Efficient solar capture
It's a pity we can't invent a biological sunlight capture device. Maybe we could make one that also converted the CO2 in the air into Oxygen and biomass.
If we could then find a way to convert that biomass back into food or energy, we would harness the suns rays very effectively.
It's really cool and it might be better for the future, but as it is right now it's not cost effective, the best clean source of energy in the world right now is nuclear
the sun doesnt exist, solar enery doesnt exist
the sun is a hologram floating 100km above ground.
It's alright but nuclear is better and easier to implement
>his beloved fondle slab.
lol thank you well said.
good points
>only actually profitable in certain situations
i think we have an intelligence deficit in this area, when it comes to things we need its a problem if people are trying to profit from it, government should cover it therefore tax-paid.
i worry about that, look what hapened at fukushima, land-based reactors arent a good idea imo, one quake and its all over. the spill is hoorendous and lasts thousands of years.
your heart
>what are batteries
why don’t we just turn into plant hybrids not even that hard
In my state, it is illegal to run my house directly off my own solar panels. They MUST be hooked to the grid. I have to sell the electricity to the electric company and then buy it back at a discount.
i work in a government-funded university and they keep making cuts to our budget so of course we're going to worry about "profit" (i meant to say savings instead).
also due to the amount of people and companies installing solar panels the prices are rising instead of falling and companies are already considering raising the energy price to cover the losses as well as lobby for new regulations that will not benefit the customers.
something similar happened years ago due to drought: the water companies raised water price to cover the losses because people were spending less water during a long term drought we had.
this is atrocious.
>In my state, it is illegal to run my house directly off my own solar panels. They MUST be hooked to the grid. I have to sell the electricity to the electric company and then buy it back at a discount.
>government should cover it therefore tax-paid.
public service, is what it should be
Nuclear > Renewable (Solar, Wind, Wave) > Fossil Fuels.
Solar roadways are the future!
pyrolysis and hydrothermal liquifecation are 2 methods that can be used to convert biomass and waste plastic into hydrocarbons which can be further refined for fuel
My F150 doesn't run on sunshine.
go to school fren
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It's because I live in a southern state, and at this latitude I could be energy independent with 9 roof-mounted solar panels.
The electric company would be crippled if we were allowed to power our own homes.
>The electric company would be crippled if we were allowed to power our own homes.
why dont they make the shift to supplying solar for the government and get paid as public servants?