What I noticed with the Greeks and Romans is that they didn't have the suicidal altruism that Northern Slavic, Celtic, and Germanic Europeans did. When they encountered a racial enemy, for instance, they didn't let them in their nation, they put them on an endangered species list when they showed to be a nuisance.
Hell, they brought the Jews to the brink of extinction for not paying the Roman Empire taxes. I'm amazed the Greeks and Romans were replaced by the Germanics; they were the most brutal and ruthless strain of the White race. In their extinction at the hands of Northern migration, the fate of Whites as a whole was sealed.
It's not entirely correct I think. Late Rome fell because they Romans didn't give a shit anymore about nationality/ethnicity and gave a permit to stay to pretty much anyone. Eventually this had drawn in all kinds of hordes which were looking to leach off of Rome's system, without needing to contribute anything. Bread and games were held to keep the people occupied and entertained whilst slowly but surely the economy fell under their social programs and the influx in migrants. The ideals which once upheld Rome hegemony turned to the background, as anybody could 'just' become a Roman with all the perks of being one. Social cohesion went down, living standards, and eventually the Empire was too weak to keep standing up to the invading hordes from the outside. There is a huge difference between the ways of the earlier Roman empire and the later one.
Hudson Martin
Roman Empire was multicultural as fuck bro And Greeks were fucking overrated. Modern day Europeans have more common genes with Ancient Persians than ancient greeks, not to mention that Persian created way greater empire than greeks. Alexander the Great wasnt greek but Dorian, greeks didnt consider Dorian as one of their own altough Dorian were the pure Hellenes
Gavin Brooks
this is not true rome was inclusive since its inception it just became too big for its time in very little words
Levi Barnes
As to say; they made the exact same mistakes as we are making today. History seems to be repeating itself, and Rome will fall if we don't find a way to revitalize our societies with a ethnic/national/cultural conciousness and keep going down the road that we are
Sebastian Wood
When they implemented slave religion (((Christianity))) it was over, borders open, it was over
I'm not saying they were never multicultural. But how they treated these issues was different. They buckled under the weight once 'being Roman' became something arbitrary
Liam Reyes
>it's a dumbfag thinks that hordes of barbarians brought the Western Roman Empire to its knees in military campaigns instead of just squatting on the ashes of a state that burnt itself down thread
>Romans and Greeks from 2400 years ago Vs modern Germans?
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Ryan Foster
Romans/Greeks should've colonized Slavic (or whatever we were at that time) lands. Eastern Slavs literally invited Scandinavians (Rurikids) to rule over them in the 9th century. I'm sure they would've welcomed Roman rule I dunno, like six centuries earlier and become loyal servants of Rome unlike Germanics. We would've helped to solve the Germanic question in general.
post birth abortion is okay when you have to physically throw the baby off the cliff yourself. fucking DO IT YOU COWARD.
Jacob Diaz
>When they encountered a racial enemy, for instance, they didn't let them in their nation, they put them on an endangered species list when they showed to be a nuisance.
What the fuck am I reading?
What is a racial enemy?
Brayden Phillips
It's a bit of both actually
Benjamin Brown
>this is not true rome was inclusive since its inception lol this is false
having people paying tribute to the empire is not the same as being inclusive
Christopher Ross
They didn't spend 24 hours a day tugging on their cocks to Internet porn. Yeah, I'd say superior is an understatement.
Anthony James
Yes, that's because of Paganism, pagan germans were based too.
Unfortunately Christianity was like the tranny epidemic back then and before you knew it your family members were part of the Jewish slave cult. Some guys were based and axed them in the head regardless but others got botched at and the problem festered until the Christians backstabbed and started raping and pillaging pagan communities themselves.
Never trust the Christians. They will take what traditions and monuments they can, and destroy the rest while rubbing it in your face. Then once they're done with you they'll move onto another race and demand that you wait for their god to render judgement on the evil in the afterlife, because solving problems is above your pay grade. An eye for an eye is not enough for the attempted and ongoing extermination and enslavement of the White peoples by Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Take the entire head off and grind their history into dust like they tried to do to ours.
Why? Teutoberg forest, after that 400 years of being defensive against Germanics until they eventually got overwhelmed by them.
Hadrian didn't just destroy Jews out of race, but more that the Jews united as one against the Romans and that the only option Hadrian had left was to just kill them en mass to enforce his will upon them. The Jews believed that a new messiah had shown his face and this messiah was demanding the romans to be driven out of their lands.
You guys should read: "The fate of empires" by Sir Jhon Glubb. In it he analyses the rise and decline of great nations.
It is basicly the principle of strong men creating good times by willpower and bloodshed (Alexander conquering the old world, Early Rome beating Carthage etc.). The good times creating weak men, who in turn create hard times(Degeneracy in rome, the fall of old Bagdahd). His assesments are so accurate it is acutally scary. Especially in regards to Immigration, upcoming feminism etc.
Caleb Ramirez
Cyclic history is incorrect because it ignores several facts. The Early Roman republic was filled with good men despite it being a highly good time, all the way up to the mid Roman Republic. Then there was still a bunch of good men who turned Rome into the Roman Empire despite the patrician aristocracy becoming highly corrupt and part of the problems as Rome fell. Christians said, "don't kill these people or pull a Secessio Plebs like you did before, serve them in this life and god will punish them later". This allowed corruption to reach critical mass from the top and middle of the government while lack of individual social responsibility from the bottom became too common. Then in the next 1000 years or so in the West, there was a great dearth of good men, only the occasional good king or lord playing mutual tard wrangler with pedo priests and bad men who were born into aristocracy.
Jace Gomez
The Early Roman republic was filled with good men despite it being a highly good time, all the way up to the mid Roman Republic. Then there was still a bunch of good men who turned Rome into the Roman Empire despite the patrician aristocracy becoming highly corrupt and part of the problems as Rome fell. Agreed, just as nowadys there are lots of good people left, the pessimism of the society does not necessarily mean the individual, is uncurable, remove them from the degenerecy and they will build a nation with the just as their fathers did, as long as they have an incentive to do so. In your society we lack the stimualtion for grandure because we get everything we want. That is degeneracy the lack of need to struggle and improve. I do not think that cristianity is the reason for this decline, it surely has not helped prevent it for long, but it is in my opinion not the real culprit. More of a sympthom than a cause.
It did not mean that theory, especially the time frames were perfect, however, I unfortunatly, can't help seeing certain patterns emerging.
I'm not saying that certain Europeans aren't White, I was simply saying that not all White races are equal, i.e Meds are more ruthless and Northern Europeans are more compassionate.
Cameron Smith
They have a stronger in-group preference from being less racially mixed than Northern Europeans. They've pretty much been the same since the Bronze age, with whatever changes afterwards being slight and caused by other whites. They also never industrialized, which is what created this soulless civic/consumer/virtue signal culture we have today
Dorians are Greeks. Look at Maniots (actual Dorians) and tell me they aren't Greeks. The Romans also didn't become multicultural until the Severan Dynasty. Italians without citizenship (they were given citizenship collectively in the late Republic) had special privileges over non-Italians. Also keep in mind that a lot of these "barbarian" emperors pre-3rd century were just Italian colonists who favored Italy(the 5 good emperors being the best example)
Contrary to Starz's Spartacus, the Romans never got as degenerate as modern whites. Look up the social decay they're talking about, and the average person is guilty of worse.
They also tore down monuments for being "pagan" like antifa uses buzzwords to tear down monuments. They even wore all black and usually came from the dregs of society. That's why these smashed Greco-Roman statues have crosses carved into their heads.
Teutoberg forest was avenged. Arminius tribe and family were literally exterminated.
Nigger that chart's flat out lying by using mistranslations and mentions of wigs out of context. They are all depicted with mediterranean facial features. A blonde Italian is also still an Italian, with the Pelasgian Romans using Aryan individualism to play divide and conquer with them.
>they didn't have the suicidal altruism that Northern Slavic, Celtic, and Germanic Europeans did. They literally did. You can read about how Roman historians complained about the number of Africans and Asians in Rome.
It's the same for every empire. The Arab caliphate's capital Baghdad was cosmopolitan during the "Golden Age of Islam", with Africans, Egyptians, Turks, Greeks, and more there. Arabs were a minority. Istanbul of the Ottoman Empire was multicultural with few Turks living in the capital. None of what's happening today is new
Connor Garcia
Sub 80 iq wouldn't understand.
Nicholas Williams
But they weren't settling Italy like today's parallels, nor would they be modern arabs or turks.
Rome and other imperial capitols became that, but that's one city becoming multicultural before its collapse compared to entire countries becoming that way.
Lincoln King
we wuz albanians
Joseph Cooper
Based. The debate about whiteness is silly since it is open to personal interpretation. What matters is being of overhwelming European ancestry. A specific level can be set (e.g.>95-99%). The actual amount is largely irrelevant since most seld-identified "whites" in the americas, oceania and europe have
Christopher Peterson
No, Roman citizenship was coveted Everyone else was a slave or second/third tier citizen
