Why are all the football (soccer for you yanks) GOATs white?
- Messi - Ronaldo - Maradona - Cruyff - Zidane - Zlatan etc. etc.
inb4 some tard mentions Pele, highly overrated. Essentially only played for Santos and was beating low-tier brazilian scrubs. Everyone would be a "top tier" player in a league of downies.
Well, Ronaldo at least has the Euro cup. Messi will indeed have a problem because he hasn't won anything with the national team.
Lucas Hall
Always a pleasure.
Cameron Collins
>Everyone would be a "top tier" player in a league of downies. I don't even like football or Pelé, but he won 3 worldcups against your "high-tier" eurotrash, stop being an asshole just because you born in what was once the 1st world, enjoy your arabs faggot.
Alexander Lee
Sorry, just thought about it again. Come back, when England has such a game.
it is not a one man game. you know that and are just fucking with me. portugal hasnt been the best of the best but they have been consistent for years and years. argentina hasnt been either of those
Evan Ortiz
This has to be the most memorable football moment in history. Fucking hell can't believe I watched that shitshow live
Andrew Kelly
Ok but both of them are like 90% white.
Evan Wood
Kluivert Mbappe Sterling Coman Pogba Kanté Eto'o Milla Jay Jay Okocha
Argentina is easily the second best team in South America and Messi hasn't done dick with them in Copa America. Portugal winning the Euro Cup was way more of an accomplishment.
Jordan Moore
for sure it is, but that doesnt mean they are good in the world. idk what you are trying to say. again im talking about skill youre just stating accomplishments or lack thereof an entire team. messi cant pull the entire team against brazil dude. pele could absolutely never hold a candle to messis raw skill and talent
Bentley Murphy
Being an all time great is more than just juggling the ball.
Bentley Powell
kek this man is basically real life Patrick Bateman
Nolan Bennett
Pele destroyed Euro teams through his career not only in Santos, where he won the Club World Cup 2 times, but especially on the 3 world cups he won. Saying he was beating low-tier brazilian scrubs is bs. Also, football is pretty democratic. You can be black, white, mestizo, tall, short, and as long as you're fit you can play.
Justin Sanders
its called dribbling and skill doesnt just count as that silly man
Messi has won when being surrounded by Iniesta, Xavi, Busqets etc. Essentially spanish world cup winners.
He sucks as a leader, Maradona said the same.
Camden Brown
Argentina had pound for pound better players. Portugal is better now but before this year it was the opposite. Coaches have changed but the teamwork hasnt. The captains are actually the difference. One starts sulking in a bad game and the other lights a fire under his team.
nigger we have been consistently among the top 5 teams of the world for the past 2 decades, what the fuck are you talking about?
Jack Murphy
>Messi >Argentina >white
>Ronaldo >Portugal/Brazil (depending on which one) >white
>Maradona >Argentina >white
>Zidane >Algeria >white
>Zlatan >Slav >white
I'll give you Cruyff though. But it is true that blacks are slacking off as Football is becoming more and more complex in terms of tactics
Bentley Torres
Hasn't Argentina been among the top teams for like 100 years?
Kayden Bailey
Ronaldo didnt even play the final. He has basically the same achievement as Messi, reaching the final of an international tournament
Matthew Watson
And I'm not talking shit about the likes of Messi and CR7. I love the way Messi plays. You can find them both better than Pele, of course, its your right, but saying that Pele was shit is retarded: youtube.com/watch?v=ioA0DwrriWM
Xavier Reed
What about Ngubu?
Thomas Collins
that was also during his prime. he shined brightly then and he still does now. maybe he does suck as a leader but pele couldnt play today. he would blow ass yeah i never said they didnt, its how they played. they were consistently bested by better teams explains why you have never won anything right? a number is just that, a number. youve never produced results when you could have almost a decade ago. your defense always falls apart. not talking shit as an american i find our team to be utter trash but you couldve stepped up way earlier and now the clock is ticking on messis time
Matthew Green
I can't stand watching that crap. It's just too gay. The beaners here love it though.
Bentley Lopez
Never fails to make me laugh
Mason White
Sports in general are disgusting, I have been trying to redpill people on how horrible professional sports are but no one listens. Think about it. What we have are grown men chasing or kicking a ball around for a living, enough to be elevated to godlike status. They contribute 0 actual value to society. Instead of it being a fun time with friends, sports has been monetized into big franchise businesses with the only goal to make money. Its no wonder that only stupid low iq fat fucks are the ones actually watching it and wasting their money on it. tl;dr you're an embarrassment and probably a manchild if you still watch sports. Shave ur fucking neckbeard, stop drinking beer and eating nachos, and go to a gym, that will be better value for you.
Jeremiah Torres
The american cannot sit still for 45 minutes and watch a game continuously, no. He needs his break every 30 seconds to go up and grab more soda and snacks
Kevin Howard
i literally cant stop watching it. i have a pretty lax job and around 2pm my time i tell my coworkers im not doing shit until halftime
Isaac Barnes
Niggers are dumb. That's why
Leo Taylor
The only thing good about soccer are the ns ultras
>Messi, Maradona Spic mutts >Ronaldo North African roots >Zlatan Ethically middle Eastern >Zidane North African Algerian Muslim
Joshua Gray
Do you have any idea how dumb the average person is? These people need to let out their animal instincts one way or another. Bread and circus is the way they do it. It used to be Gladiators. Now its an entire industry as everything that has demand has money involved.
Ayden Bell
>pele couldnt play today. he would blow ass
Then noone who played 40 years ago, could play today.
Ridiculous assertation.
When watching the last world cup final I wasn't particularly impressed.
Logan Kelly
thats exactly my point. i do not believe wilt chamberlain could play in the nba today. the game has changed, the fitness has changed, the schedules have changed. everything has changed in 40 years. from the prep to the tactics itself. absolutely he would be 2nd league
Jace Rodriguez
Mutts also need time to watch hours of commercials to know what they should buy next
Oliver Kelly
Yea, but you can't punish a player just because he hadn't access to modern fitness technology and tactical minds of modern managers. Its like saying Messi will have to be saw as bad in 2050 because of this, or Cryuff is bad because of today's standarts. Imagine what Pele, Garrincha, Cryuff, Puskas, etc., could have been with modern technology (better fitness preparation, better and well cared fields, lighter balls, etc.) and tactics on their side.
Charles Davis
How would that be logical, its still the same species, you fcukign idiot.
Joseph Price
You know very well that Maradona hates niggers and has said so
no one is "bad" those players arent bad they are legends, they just couldnt compete today. i mean, didnt cruyff say his two loves were smoking cigarettes and playing soccer? you just cant do that today. same species, different training regimens, different fitness levels etc etc.modern fitness tech has exacerbated this also. we are at the limits of the human body now. we've pretty much done all there is to do in terms of peak physical performance. and this is only in the last 20 years or so
Jason Davis
they would be absolute freaks today to answer that. would love to see cruyff come back and wreck shit
James Hernandez
>no one is "bad" those players arent bad they are legends, they just couldnt compete today. i mean, didnt cruyff say his two loves were smoking cigarettes and playing soccer? you just cant do that today. Yes, but if he was playing today he wouldn't be smoking cigarettes and would be following the standart fitness training, etc.
Julian Thomas
thats exactly what im saying. people know much more about the human body. of course he wouldnt thats what im trying to say
Liam Diaz
You forgot other Ronaldo and Ronaldinho
Jason Adams
The best players of 40 years ago could easily compete today if given the same training.
Someone like Maradona or Matthaeus wouldn't even need that. .
Dominic Carter
Then we are in agreement. I just don't like zoomers shitting on old players for things they didn't had access of. They achieved the maximum they could with the technology they had, and if they lived today, I'm quite sure they would be even better.
Zachary Watson
thats what ive been saying the entire time. but when people say they are better than current messi they are full of shit. IF given the same training and the like yes they could compete. but to pit them prime vs prime, messi would win, or other modern day players. and maradona would need some help with the handball rules lel. im not shitting on anyone but defending modern players. without a doubt they would be better. but like i said to kraut user, to just take them from their respective time periods and pit them against eachother, well in the case of messi and pele, my money is on messi 10/10 times
Adam Phillips
Messi is piece of shit, that can#t win anythign when not surrounded by half the spanish world cup winners.
Get lost.
Kevin Lopez
To say that Pele can not play football today, is the height of ignorance. He basically invented modern football.
Jonathan Anderson
You forgot about Rooney.
William Carter
At least Pele and Maradona or Matthaeus would be able to score a penalty against fucking iceland.
Messi. lmao
Joseph Myers
you are one angry man. he do i need to remind you that he won the champions league for times? 10x la liga titles and 6 copa del reys? 6 golden boots? And im full of shit?
yeah i fucking heard you the first time. its a missed penalty, youre saying one missed penalty throws away all of the wonderful things messi has done. one penalty. its so black and white to you that i could never further this conversation. youtube.com/watch?v=TEcghxju2G4
Luis Hughes
Today I have seen your PM crying like a bitch.
Wyatt Perry
lmao, Comparing a goal against england in the world cup against one against Getafe.
Thats Messi, right there.
Dylan Anderson
not comparing them, just a video and that is your opinion right there
Grayson Johnson
>discarding pele toothpaste bro, have you even seen any footage of him? heres some for reference: youtube.com/watch?v=sYokNMEgRvw