What if the Devil created Catholicism/Christianity/Judaism/Islam?

But Judaism predates Christianity, and just steals from religions before it

Btw I think Jesus is legit, it's just the religion surrounding him that I find suspicious.

judiasm is not supposed to be practiced for the most part. - 1 John 2:22 alone - some people in Islam follow Jesus Christ, but not above Mohammed from what I've seen.

Jesus Christ - I've felt the holy spirit from Jesus Christ and/or The Holy Trinity that is.

Reasonably so. Satan is a deceiver. With the amount of heresy being spouted from the pulpit these days it would make sense for Satan to get involved somewhere

I try to be respectful of mohammed/islam, but I don't follow him and I don't mix with them though to.

>Judaism predates Christianity
That's not true. Judaism was created as reaction to Jesus Christ by the pharisees.
Christianity however, or more specifically the Catholic Religion is the authentic continuation of the Old Testament Believe of the Israelites

Could Yahweh have been the Devil? They also worshiped Caanite gods so it gets confusing.

I think Satan or whatever is attempting to collective focus will and harvest the energy to rebirth itself in our world

What about Moses and all that shit?

Ashkenazi

No wonder she hates Jonah, besides the obvious reasons. Jewish women hate jewish men

Read the Bible and compare bthe body count of God and Satan.

Mose is an old testament prophet of the Christian Religion
His religion is the same one as the Catholic Religion

Is this a trick question?

But isn't that Judaism? With the 10 commandments and what not? Then he got betrayed by his own people and said fuck it and went to die in the dessert?

>But isn't that Judaism
It is authentic Judaism, compared to the unauthentic rabbinical Judaism you know the Jews believe in.

You're talking about Talmudism then

I don't know personally.

"“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me."

the-ten-commandments.org/the-ten-commandments.html

God - Tier -10 God - Highest Ruling God.
-5 - Faith alone up to - Tier -10 which is the highest ruling God of everything and/or anything. Ruler of all.
-1 - anything in this realm and/or above it I can't comprehend so much and only certain things I can myself.
0 - cross over to very low Gods
1 - tier 1 - gods
2 - tier 2 - gods
3 - tier 3 - gods
4 - tier 4 - gods

I don't follow the lower Gods usually or try to figure it out for the most part usually, but I figure they exist and I think many referred to Gods in the past have been evil though.

I go with a God of Gods and/or the God over all Gods - King of kings type stuff, but there's only 1 extremely high top ruling Omnipotent, Omnipresent, Omniscient God. If God is 1 the next god is like 0.0000(trillion+ zeros adding in here if not quintillions and so on)00001 in terms of power alone.

Deism - God doesn't always play a role in the world. Plus you have to talk to God and such and don't expect God to just give you whatever you want. That's why lucifer left the heavens and such and/or the devil that is if they are the same being. This trips my mind sometimes - trippy to think it might be two different, but I'm pretty sure lucifer is the devil though.

God + Holy Spirit + Jesus Christ = Holy Trinity

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>Devil

The word you are looking for is Demiurge.

But all that is basically just the Shiva/Sakti underneath Kali principle. One big question I have is why do we base so much on that set of occurrences when there is so much that predates Semitic regions

Just another word for it. Even Martin Luther says "Satan is the God of this world"

she's been beaten already

humans use religion a lot of times for power and such to me personally. it's lies / filth / slander alone type stuff at that point.

1 John 2:22 - 80% of jews alone don't believe in Jesus Christ and/or etc type of stuff or it's around that number.

but they want us to be mixed with each other - united states / israel that is.

God - is more or so personal to me - I gave up trying to argue with others for the most part years ago.

God is Omnipotent / Omnipresent / Omniscient to me personally.

You don't need to listen to anyone else and I go with Deism or Holy Trinity (through Jesus Christ and such) type stuff.

I think Jesus was trying to take back the reigns of humanity from these demon worshiping kike. I'm personally conflicted on what I believe. I'm at the point where I'm believing in levels of different gods and demons. It's hard to believe it's not a complicated mess like on Earth

Yea he rules the Material World.

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Would you say that since the world has become more Judaic/Islamic that things have become worse? You could lump Christianity/Catholicism as well since it weakens those that believe in it i.e. believing more in a later day reward than improving what we currently live in

God made the (((10 commandments))) and Christianity according to the Bible... Jesus said kingdom of heaven is in us all... the Catholic Church created Islam in 622ad so maybe you're onto something

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>the Catholic Church created Islam in 622ad
Go on

It would be odd for the devil to create a religion in which he is the enemy.
>What about Moses and all that shit?
Modern Jews don't care about the Old Testament, they follow the Talmud.

>It would be odd for the devil to create a religion in which he is the enemy.
That's my point. I'm not saying the Devil is the good guy, but what if he's putting himself in BOTH sides of the story
>Modern Jews don't care about the Old Testament, they follow the Talmud.
I was just stating about Moses to establish a timeline of these religions

>Even Martin Luther says "Satan is the God of this world"
That's John 14:30, although I guess Martin Luther probably said it at one point.
>That's my point. I'm not saying the Devil is the good guy, but what if he's putting himself in BOTH sides of the story
In that case I don't think there's much we can do about it, but I don't think it's the case. (Again, doesn't really make sense.) God's graces have been enough for me to trust Him, personally.

It was created by jewmons.

>I was just stating about Moses to establish a timeline of these religions
Talmudic Judaism is arguably a different religion, I think that's what the guy you were responding to was getting at.

The Devil isn't real, you idiot.

Damn it's sad being surrounded by such useful dupes, I'm facing the oncoming global digital government manifesting the face of Moloch and half of the people who are even paying attention are trying to understand it in terms of Chick Tracts.

ML might have been quoting that, as it was in "On Jews and their Lies"
>God's graces have been enough for me to trust Him, personally.
I believe in God too I just don't think it's the Christian or Judaic view of God. I guess it could be I'm not trying to separate myself from it. I just don't trust it

I agree, and he probably was. But regardless the timeline would be Moses Judaism to Pharisee Talmudism

So then what's your view on it? Besides the elitism

How about this, an omniscient omnipresent god, in order to create an imperfect world had to trick himself into hating his own light (lucifer) which could only last a short time which causes a need to sacrifice himself in repentance( jesus) to restore his perfect balanced nature.
So, in not so many words yes, as it is all parts of one

>as it is all parts of one
All is born from Kali and all returns to Kali

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>"I come, Lucius, moved by your entreaties: I, mother of the universe, mistress of all the elements, first-born of the ages, highest of the gods, queen of the shades, first of those who dwell in heaven, representing in one shape all gods and goddesses. My will controls the shining heights of heaven, the health-giving sea-winds, and the mournful silences of hell; the entire world worships my single godhead in a thousand shapes, with divers rites, and under many a different name. The Phrygians, first-born of mankind, call me the Pessinuntian Mother of the gods; the native Athenians the Cecropian Minerva; the island-dwelling Cypriots Paphian Venus; the archer Cretans Dictynnan Diana; the triple-tongued Sicilians Stygian Proserpine; the ancient Eleusinians Actaean Ceres; some call me Juno, some Bellona, others Hecate, others Rhamnusia; but both races of Ethiopians, those on whom the rising and those on whom the setting sun shines, and the Egyptians who excel in ancient learning, honour me with the worship which is truly mine and call me by my true name: Queen Isis."

>--Apuleius,

This is the pretty face of Satan and the final boss

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>I believe in God too I just don't think it's the Christian or Judaic view of God.
All of the other religions seem very amorphous and leave much to interpretation. It's really only the Catholic Church that has a tradition of precise theology and conclusively resolving disputes, which is what you would expect God would want/make to happen.
>Chick Tracts
The devil has always been a clear Christian concept from the Gospels through Augustine, Aquinas and everyone else. Who is Moloch, then?
In order to have free will God allowed people to disobey Him. Sin does not really "exist," sin is destruction of being. It's not all just circular and unitary like the Hindus say, God hates sin because it is His children destroying themselves.

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"A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head." Revelations 12:1 This Jack Chick hidden symbols illuminati shit is boomer-tier.

Do you know anything about the Leviathan that is mentioned in Job?

>It's really only the Catholic Church that has a tradition of precise theology and conclusively resolving disputes
I don't think that's true at all

The desert religions and their derivatives are pure cancer

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>I don't think that's true at all
It is. The saying about Jews is, "if you have 3 Jews you'll have 5 opinions." They argue with God in the Talmud. Hinduism is a bunch of opposing sects based on devotion to different gods, as is paganism. Even Eastern Orthodoxy does not have an established way of resolving disputes since it is based on national churches. Catholicism has a very clear system of authority and what constitutes correct doctrine.

Is phi real?

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So your ONE way is THE way because......it's the most recent? What a fucking childish mentality of dismissing thousands of years of thought for some fucking dirt merchant cut dick bullshit

Oh yeah, we are all in the belly of the beast right now.
"travailing in childbirth"

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How do you explain Europe being at its peak when it was the most Christian, and declining as it abandoned Christianity in the 20th century?
Never said anything about it being the most recent. (Talmudic Judaism and Islam are newer, for what it's worth.) The New Testament explicitly says you don't need to be circumcised. It's not my way, it's Jesus's way. He wouldn't leave us without some way of getting at the truth, which is why He created the Church.

A new body of Christ is struggling to come out of her right now. He is not going to float down on a cloud ad fix everything for us. The second coming is in the hearts of men.

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Do you have any more information on the Leviathan? I could be wrong, but I believe some Sumerian religion taught that we were created from the slaying of the Tiamat

>Modern jews are converted khazars that have nothing to do with ancient jews
>They are also the ancient pharises jews that jesus called the synagogue of satan

Never change Jow Forums

> The theme of a god killing a chaos monster to bring order to the world is so common that the field of comparative mythology has coined the term chaoskampf for it. To the Hindus it was Indra v. Vritra, the Slavs Perun v. Veles, the Egyptians Ra v. Apep, the Babylonians Marduk v. Tiamat and to the Greeks it was Zeus v. Typhon and the list goes on. Most tellings have the same common threads running through them. The hero is almost always their equivalent of Jupiter the storm god, he has a magic weapon akin to lightening and the dragon has many heads. The god uses naked force to prevail but the creature can’t be killed. It is cut up and cast out below the waves, beyond the horizon, under ground or just after dusk and just before dawn. It’s always sent somewhere just beyond discovery yet still with us, waiting, for the final showdown at the end of time.

worldsgreatestfishstory.net/ship-of-state-v-whale/

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Demiurge bro

There is primordial chaos and there is the man made chaos of the lawless state. The first will exist until the end of time. The second will be thrown into the pit when we usher in the Millennial Kingdom.

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Never said they were converted Khazars. I assume some are, but some probably are descended from the ancient Hebrews. My point was that the Talmud significantly changed the religion that was practiced by the great prophets and patriarchs of the Old Testament, perhaps to the point of creating an altogether new religion. I also believe that most of the sane, decent Jews converted to Christianity, leaving behind the dregs which wrote the Talmud and then subverted Christendom.

I'm just saying your mentality is exactly what I don't like about Western religion

Who's her?

>the Talmud significantly changed the religion that was practiced by the great prophets and patriarchs of the Old Testament
Ironically who did that was Jesus, he was the one that changed the religion. The Talmud is just a compilation of rabbinical interpretations of the Torah, its like what the books of Saint Aquino are to christianism, or what the Papal declarations are to catholicism

So in the sense that an evil being was split into parts and scattered, what would happen if they found all the parts?

>I'm just saying your mentality is exactly what I don't like about Western religion
If your religion is true, then is a true description of objective reality. There is only one reality, one God, so only one true religion with one correct doctrine. Why would there be more than one? Are there multiple versions of physics and math that you get to choose between?
>Ironically who did that was Jesus, he was the one that changed the religion.
Jesus fulfilled the prophecies, I guess you could consider that changing it.
>The Talmud is just a compilation of rabbinical interpretations of the Torah
More like an instruction manual on how to find loopholes, it's insincere in a way Aquinas is not, e.g.: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eruv That's exactly what Jesus was talking about wrt Pharisees, people who think they can outsmart God, and that's what makes it different from sincere devotees like Moses and David.

>objective reality
No such thing

Can something exist and not exist at the same time?

Depends on what you mean. How are you so sure that you are behind "the one true doctrine" a lot of other people believe that. I don't even believe that about what I think

>How are you so sure that you are behind "the one true doctrine" a lot of other people believe that.
I trust Jesus, and Jesus instituted the Church to keep us on the right path. Some people are clearly going to be wrong, that doesn't change reality.
>I don't even believe that about what I think
God gave us reason in order to understand the truth. He wouldn't leave us hanging like that. Further, you do believe it, probably, saying "there is no way to understand the truth" is just as much an objective statement as saying "there is a way to understand the truth." That's the paradox of relativism, relativism itself is not relative.

Jesus literally changed the religion, the religion was in a way and became another thing.
And jews have debated with God since the dawn of times, this is not something new in the Talmud, in some of those cases God even used to laugh because he found funny how smart ass some of the Old prophets were, and because of that he didnt get angry and instead laughed. Like when a father is arguing with a 4 years old about how its time to him to go to bed, and the 4 years old find a loophole in the father argument and the father laugh and let the kid play for more 20 minutes before going to bed.

Jesus and the Church are separated though, by the Church. You trust in the institution, not Jesus. You want to be coddled, not saved

fuck off

>a 4 years old
Yes, it's cute when a 4 year old does it. Are you 4 years old? And Jews aren't being cute, a lot of the time. They really think they can "get one over" on God. More like a teenager... The old prophets generally weren't smartasses anyway, they were focused on telling the Hebrews to get their act together.
Jesus created the institution. We need a way to interpret the Bible correctly and administer the sacraments. You are the one who wants to be coddled by being allowed to interpret things however you want, instead of listening to the wisdom of all the faithful who went before you.

guess that would makem god

The whore of Babylon The Catholic church and her harlot daughters the protestant sects and the Universtiy. Basically all of the lost tribes of Israel.
Chaos is neither good nor evil my friend. All duality is an illusion including chaos and order. For example You can write any book ever written just by flipping a coin.
> Louis Borges wrote a book entitled “The Library of Babel”. His library consists of every possible four hundred and ten page combination of the letters of the alphabet, commas, spaces and periods. It’s a sprawling place full of Epic poetry and dirty limericks, scientific genius and lewd pornography, advertisements for things in an imaginary marketplace but mostly its complete gibberish. A strange implication of the Infinite Universe is that his library really exists and if you wanted to replicate it, all that you would have to do is assign heads and tails to dots and dashes in Morse code and get to flippin’. Babylons library is obviously beyond the scope of the life of one mans work but I hope you see my point. Order inevitably emerges from chaos. They are two tides in the mouth of the same river.

worldsgreatestfishstory.net/2019/06/

The Tiamat story is an alegory and everything you see is made up of its parts.

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He did. By convincing Eve to eat the apple. That was the start of it all.

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Blow me dickhead

Jesus may have created it but he's not fucking managing it you mong. You're trusting in the frail hearts of men to lead you? What the fuck?

>Are you 4 years old?
In my knowledge compared to his knowledge, yeah, a cute 4 years old trying to argue with his father, and the father laugh. To deny this is to deny the old testment, that exactly how God used to react when the jews debated him. His wrath used to come when there was no debate, but just complet rebelion against his law.
The Talmud is that, the interpretations about the law, like Saint Aquino did, or like what the Pope does.

Yeah but what if it's not an allegory?

>Jesus may have created it but he's not fucking managing it you mong. You're trusting in the frail hearts of men to lead you? What the fuck?
The New Testament is subject to various interpretations. Jesus established the Church in order to teach the correct interpretation. The bishops can never change anything, they can merely clarify the deposit of faith. We cannot expect people to individually work out the true doctrine themselves. Just like anything else, if, say I am going to build a house, I would see how other people have built houses before me. This does not mean that I hold the bishops above Jesus, just that it is their job to impart the accumulated wisdom and conclusions of previous generations.
>The Talmud is that, the interpretations about the law, like Saint Aquino did, or like what the Pope does.
That's a very charitable interpretation -- Aquinas never came up with anything like the eruv, which is clearly designed to follow only the letter and not the spirit of the law. The spirit of the Talmud is "how much can we get away with," whereas the spirit of the Church is "how can we best do what God intends."

Combination of what I heard and read it's probably in Wikipedia somewhere check it out

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You can honestly tell, looking at the state of the Church (and is that Catholic or Christian, and which denomination is correct?) that Jesus's hard work and word are being preached to 100% of what he would have wanted? Are you serious? The "Church" is one of the most kiked up fucking things on the planet.

The Church is about as far away from Jesus as you can get

That's funny because I read that a kike started Islam by goading on Muhammed

Jesus released us from the covenant of the law. The doctorine of grace specificaly refuses to resolve disputes and shifts the responsibility back to Rome. The Whore, the church that Constantine and his mother created, not Jesus, is more than happy to echo that sentiment and delegate the responsibility of justice to the Beast, the State, Rome which is spiritually Egypt and Babylon.

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Define kike for me please

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Like a literal Rabbi

A rabbi with no qualms with any other religion isn't a kike buddy check the definition and history of the word

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Everything around you is made of primordial chaos. It sounds to me like you are fishing for some sort of magic spell so I will give you this piece of advice. Christ is the most powerful egrigore, not Kek or Tiamat or any other name for the chaos diety.

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>a rabbi isn't a kike
What the fuck
>A rabbi with no qualms with any other religion
That literally doesn't exist

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I'm not after power. And I don't believe in chaos

>"how much can we get away with," whereas the spirit of the Church is "how can we best do what God intends."
Thats obviusly subjective, if someone disagrees with Aquino interpretations ( which is not my case btw, i dont know his philosophy but the things i saw i liked) the person could argue that aquino was subverting the message, because in this person mind the message was not how Aquino saw it. Iam not even saying that i agree with the Talmud interpretations, you could show me something that i would say its dumb and in this case people should follow the Torah instead of the Talmud interpretation. But the point is, Talmud is not a new religion, in the same sense that Aquino's books or the Pope declarations dont create new religions. If you disagree with some points of Aquino's ideas or something that the Pope said what would you do? Follow the bible

What if Rome created christianity, judaism, islam? (picrel)

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>Words can mean whatever I'm saying
No faggot you're being very gay

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And you are sounding like some ESL dumb fuck