Whenever people talk about an ethnostate, I find it strange how they use the lower IQs of immigrants to justify keeping the country majority white. What I don’t understand is why use race as a proxy for IQ? Even though some races have higher iqs than others, that doesn’t mean there aren’t at least some high IQ people of every race (in fact, you’d probably see even higher levels of East Asian immigrants). Just test each immigrant individually before coming in, and you’ll guarantee a high IQ populace.
>inb4 regression to the mean
Not a problem if the only immigrants are high iq.
>inb4 IQ is meaningless
IQ is the best predictor of impulsivity, work ethic, adaptability, and overall success in life known to man.
Why not be an IQ state
Jayden Hughes
Connor Stewart
iq thread
Dominic Thompson
Because we don't need ugly black nerds
Lucas Jenkins
Top 2% and that was 35 years ago...I continue to impress myself.
Ayden Mitchell
Because of the Constitution that says you're not supposed to discriminate on Race. It's one of the things that makes everyone want to be an American.
Once you're in, you're part of the winning team from here and forever.
Ideology and hard work is more important than IQ.
Dylan Ross
As opposed to ugly white ones
Wyatt Powell
Too few womrn have iq as high as men.
Also IQ is bullshit.
Luis Flores
>winning team
>forever
Haha no. Your shitty country will have balkanised within this century.
Leo Sanders
That would destroy the entire world. You need a variety of IQ to support the function of any state. If you drain all the IQ from the rest of the cultures, you will destroy those cultures.
Aiden Harris
We can just change it back to the way it was before. You know, before we started our decline
Jordan Morris
Fuckin amateur hour
Lucas Sanders
because I want aussies to be allowed in
Andrew Gray
Since when does Jow Forums give a shit about Africa?
Adrian Harris
>IQ is bullshit
... Well that's where you're wrong pal. Not saying that it's the everything, but there's definitely something to it.
Logan Long
IQ doesn't matter.
Europeans had civilizational eugenics for millennia.
They punished, tortured, executed and exiled their antisocial and counterproductive members.
Sometimes they managed to catch these failures before they could produce offspring.
The brutality in history books is why Europeans are well behaved.
It's not about how smart they are.
They don't have the personality traits that lead to criminality and antisocial behaviors in the same proportion as other races.
A 170 IQ nigger still has the rapey trial by combat low time preference personality traits.
A 85 IQ European doesn't.
You can keep thinking It's IQ though.
You're wrong. That's why your model is only partially predictive.
Parker Moore
A high IQ state would have no niggers anyway.
Lincoln Anderson
>>inb4 regression to the mean
>Not a problem if the only immigrants are high iq.
thanks for showing you don't understand regression to the mean
Jaxson Anderson
We are kinda in it already.
Henry Butler
iq is only a single factor in why ethnostates are desired
It has been shown that things like political opinion can even be inherited, it's been shown that in blacks for example, they have certain genes that make them more violent.
Race is more than skin color, and it is more than IQ. It makes up fundamentals of our behavior as well.
There are places in this world with almost no crime. Guess what race populates these places
Austin Wood
Children of outliers are not guaranteed to be outliers themselves. More importantly we need dumb impulsive people in the world as much as we need the smart people, the difference between dumb whites and dumb non whites however comes down to the difference between a brawl and a gang shooting. Dumb whites are essentially a powerful slave caste of good hearted "salt of the earth" people that work every day 9 hours a day till they die. The flipside of that is dumb non-whites just want to do absolutely nothing but muh dick and nig out. You see the smartest mexicans becoming hard working farmers while the smartest white people become the greatest inventors of human kind. There is some factor in the white gene that makes them morally superior to all other races. They exist as individuals while other races exist for the sake of existing.
This white culture of comradery and hard work is deeply embedded within the cultural conscience of the white race. Liberals believe culture is external and not intrinsic to a people yet no matter where you put niggers they all act exactly the same. Same goes for whites, no matter where you put them they work hard and fight for justice, there are ONLY exceptions to this rule. As we introduce more non whites to a white country suddenly that comradery begins to dissolve and white people are no longer see justice served upon themselves and thus become demoralised, their communities are shredded and without any links to society they no longer are held accountable. These two factors together define the degeneration of a non homogenous nation, when your neighbour is untrustable your capacity for work decreases, when your things get stolen by wanting niggers then you are served injustice and your natural desire to be productive declines.
Its a very complex topic but I hope ive covered it enough so you can work from here.
Luke Barnes
I agree with you on almost everything, OP. A lot of people here are just pro-ethnostate because it's a lot edgier than an IQ state, and feeds more directly into old tribal alliances. However, I do think you are wrong on one small point:
>>inb4 regression to the mean
>Not a problem if the only immigrants are high iq.
Even descendants of high IQ immigrants will regress to the mean. Regression to the mean is a statistical effect and even happens between high IQ whites, it really doesn't even have to do with race. BUT it's not that big of an issue because it only occurs for one generation. Third generation descendants of immigrants are not going to regress to the mean even further than their second generation parents.
Julian Foster
ETHOSTATE
Easton Ortiz
>Whenever people talk about an ethnostate, I find it strange how they use the lower IQs of immigrants to justify keeping the country majority white
That's not the only justification.
Matthew Collins
Connor Barnes
Ryan Perez
Aaron Green
What a retard. Whites can behave as bad as niggers if the conditions allow it, just open a book and learn the history of your race
Dominic Miller
Michael King
Oliver Bennett
Jacob Fisher
Juan Morris
High IQ in multiracial societies just results in elite tight knit ethnic groups. You see this both with Jews and Indians who prefer to interact with their own race.
Cameron Morris
Holy shit why is this so hard to understand
The White Race is unique, we have our own cultures and genetic traits which we want to preserve and improve upon. It doesn't matter if Asians have a slightly higher IQ or Niggers are better at sprinting, I'm not going to be okay with my people being bred out of existence just so some spineless faggots can try to avoid the coming conflict
Luis Smith
Iq/political ideology state is the best, this is why a good amount of people want a 80% white ethno state because thats the distribution of the republican party
Logan Ward
>Our own cultures
This one is easy, just assimilate.
>our own genetic traits
Why not just use eugenics on the traits you like? Say you like the fact that whites disproportionately have traits X, Y, and Z (doesn't have to be IQ, since I can tell you care about more than just IQ). If you give people with higher levels of these traits an increased incentive to breed, then even the non-white populations will grow to have those traits over time. A rising tide lifts all boats.
Joseph Wood
because the high IQ immigrants can still be (((tribal))) and subversive
Nolan Gray
>cultures are made by people
>people are functions of their genetics
Culture is genetic. When are you gonna get it through your head.
Lucas Thomas
No. I dont want an iq state because it would all be ashkenazy jews. I just want my people to survive, I don't give a shit about the iq
Evan Parker
And I already explained the solution for genetic traits: eugenics.
Dylan Carter
IQ is not the only factor
Blake Edwards
yeah, and civic nationalism too while you're at it!
Evan Hall
>lets spend hundreds of years attempting to control nature in a feeble attempt at recreating white people
or maybe we could just have white people?
Cooper Sanders
He means IQ high enough that one generation of regression still puts them at like 100+
Michael Rivera
If you base merit strictly off tests, people will figure out ways to cheat rather than actually become more intelligent.
See: China
Christian Nguyen
race is bait planted by (((them)))
your idea is ok, only iq test suck, but general idea is pretty much it.
it can't be implemented though for several reasons:
- (((they))) will not allow it as it's the basic mechanism how they recruit their own minnions
- you can't easily "create" a nation without history and heritage, there's no "glue" to hold people together especially through rough times at the start
- you need grunts, stupid people have their purpose too.
Adam Russell
Why not both? White people already exist, and they aren't going anywhere. In fact, a eugenics program would disproportionately incentivize them to breed more.
>feeble attempt
Is it that feeble? White people were created by accident without anyone even knowing what genetics is. Imagine what we could do if we acted with intention!
James Perez
You clearly wouldn't be accepted in this 'high IQ state' you propose for asking such a retarded question.
Parker Wright
>why have an ethnostate when you can have a split ethnostate with only whites and japanese
Not sure nippon would go for it.
Daniel Long
>UK
>calling anyone else shitty
Well that's ironic now isn't it?
Isaiah Baker
The world is extremely dependent on large numbers of low IQ drones. Pliable and docile.
Luke Cook
This
Logan Cooper
If you were truly smart you'd understand that the tests are renormed every couple of years. In fact, your score would likely be lower because of the Flynn Effect.
Logan Butler
Because if you are smart and not my kin you are a competitor.
Ethnocentrism is a biologically rational expression of selfish genetics.
What you are saying is a kin to why reproduce when you could adopt a high IQ child.
I don't want to be part of a bunch of rootless high IQ cosmopolitians.
Secondly a lot of high IQ people are cowards and wonks. The societies I have the least respect tend to be influenced by scholarly individuals, such as Confucian China and the modern West. Societies with a high degree of honour are more influenced by a martial and warrior caste, such as Japan and old Europe.
I'd sooner form a society of soldiers than scholars.
>The Nation that makes a great distinction between Scholars and its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards; its fighting done by fools. - Thucydides
Jace Peterson
> The societies I have the least respect tend to be influenced by scholarly individuals
> Literally every major European country in the past millennia
Go ahead and dump the greatest of the world's achievements in the trash.
You don't get access into the ethnostate in Alpha Centauri.
Jonathan Phillips
Because of regression to the mean, an individual might have a high IQ, but his parents not nessessarily had an IQ as high and his kids most likely won't have an IQ as high as him if his ethnic group's IQ is too far behind the host nation's IQ.
Jose Jackson
IQ regressions towards* the mean stops after the 2nd generation irc.
Andrew Campbell
>IQ is the best predictor of impulsivity, work ethic, adaptability, and overall success in life known to man.
100% bullshit!
Social skills collate VERY strongly with success in life - Lot of very successful salespeople understand how to communicate with people and close deals, while a genus lacking those communication skills get stuck at the bottom of the heap - unable to effectively express their great ideas.
Ayden Rogers
IQ is a logical measure, humans are not logical and solely dependent on it
Jeremiah Morgan
why don't IQ states already exist if they're the best and most natural form of human social organization you stupid yellow fever faggot?
do you really want to live in a country consisting of "the best" indians, chinese, nepalese, and nigerians?
Jose Clark
This