Thread for discussion of Italian Fascism, and other forms of fascism, Mosley, Codreanu, Falange, etc. Also for sharing fascist literature and information.
A Fascist general for Fascists and those interested
Be respectful and please try to keep conversations relatively "intellectual"
Good fascists/similar or influential people to get an introduction
Oswald Mosely Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera Benito Mussolini Adolf Hitler Stepan Bandera Corneliu Zelea Codreanu Salazar Ramiro Ledesma Ramos Ettore Ovazza Gaetano Mosca Friedrich Nietzsche Charles Maurras Enrico Corradini Filippo Tommaso Marinetti Johann Plenge Alceste De Ambris Gabriele d'Annunzio George Lincoln Rockwell Juan Perón Giovanni Gentile Julius Evola
Types of Fascism
Italian Falangism National-Syndicalism British Union National-Socialism Strasserism Meme futurism Clerical Fascism Brazilian Integralism Peronism
"[Fascism] was an explosion against intolerable conditions, against remediable wrongs which the old world failed to remedy. It was a movement to secure national renaissance by people who felt themselves threatened with decline into decadence and death and were determined to live, and live greatly."~Oswald Mosely
Greetings Comrades! Here we discuss all things fascism. What is Fascism you ask? Fascism is a complete rejection of materialism. the market is regulated in a manner that hinders the gluttony, manipulation, and misguidance of the people. a meritocracy is enforced in a manner so that people are employed based off of their unique skill sets, so that they may aid and benefit society in the way they are best suited. Order is achieved, spirituality is encouraged, and purpose is applied to everyone and everything. like the fasces, the people of all classes are bound together so that they may be stronger, and function similar to a single living organism. a bold leader oversees and commands the body, a strong military protects and serves the body, and a driven, healthy, and inspired working class nourishes and replenishes the body. together as one, contributing where we are most valuable, always striving toward greatness, the fascist society will exist in success and prosperity.
Hitler said "The people are at the top, the economy is the servant of the people, and capitalists and capital are the servants of the economy, not the other way around. The interest of the state comes before that of the individual."
He also said politicians should not be involved in any way with business. They should not even own stock he said.
He was neither right nor left. He said the nationalists on the right lack a social consciousness, and that the socialists on the left lack a national consciousness.
Hitler said the error of marxism is: instead of emphasizing struggle and fight, they are pacifists; instead on concentrating on race they are internationalists; instead of individual or personality principle they rely on majority rule like democracy.
From an economic perspective, Hitler did nothing wrong. In his first year of office, he gave 3.374 million people jobs of the 6 million that were unemployed, highest per capita unemployment of Europe at the time. At the same time, most western countries were still stuck in the Great Depression.
They saw charging interest on loans as immoral, forced the banks to abolish usury, saving millions from debt slavery. Hitler was the first in Europe to introduce the 40 hour work week with extra pay for overtime. Workers were subsidized by the government to take vacation abroad. Free healthcare and generous financial support for expectant mothers. Factories were required by Hitler's laws to provide workers with restrooms and a cafeteria. First country to implement government policies to protect the environment and wildlife.
Hello, DNC shill, how are you doing? Indeed, there was no way they could gave an racial policy and the empire, but Mosley spoke firmly against globalism and race mixing. >youtu.be/rJY6NhccW4c Pic related.
if the state greenlights it i will assist in removing bolshevists by any means
Carson Powell
Who devised the unnatural marriage between England and the USA on one side and Bolshevism on the other, building it up and jealously ensuring its continuance? Who covers the most perverse political situations with cynical hypocrisy from a trembling fear that a new way could lead the nations to realize the true causes of this terrible human catastrophe? The Jews, only the Jews!
They are named Morgenthau and Lehmann and stand behind Roosevelt as a so-called brain trust. They are named Mechett and Sassoon and serve as Churchill’s moneybags and order givers. They are named Kaganovitsch and Ehrenburg and are Stalin’s pacesetters and intellectual spokesmen. Wherever you look, you see Jews!
The founder and commander of the Red Army during the revolution, Jew Lev Bronstein, exterminated at least 10,000,000 Europeans. The jewish hangman Bela Kun reigned in Hungary for 130 days. Jews even tried to take over Germany via Bolshevik revolution at the end of WWI. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution
Is there any type of fascism which meet these criteria: >Citizenship is based on ethnicity >Government only grants libertarian-like freedom to citizens
Asking this because I've been struggling between Natsoc and Libertarianism, so the above seems to be the best compromise.
>>Citizenship is based on ethnicity >>Government only grants libertarian-like freedom to citizens There were racial laws in Germany. Only Germans were citizens.
did any of you guys migrate to fascism from libertarianism/anarchism? if so, how? i have a strong distaste for the state, but I hate the same things as you guys for the most part.
Adam Baker
Only Germans in Germany could own guns I believe. Jews had their own newspaper in yiddish
Technically no laws were put in place restricting either guns or free speech from normal people, tho in practice people were discouraged. The media on the other hand was completely controlled or at the very least was only allowed to say things that benefitted the regime
Joshua Taylor
Goebbles never fails to inspire me.
Dominic Young
Ive known people who liked Libertarianism. Personally Ive never seen much of a difference between it and liberalism. The state is not inherently evil, big money in the hands of a few without much regulation (Jewish capitalism) is much more dangerous to government power, the people, and the nation.
There is no question but that Hitler belongs in the category of the truly mystic medicine man. As somebody commented about him at the last Nürnberg party congress, since the time of Mohammed nothing like it has been seen in this world. His body does not suggest strength. The outstanding characteristic of his physiognomy is its dreamy look. I was especially struck by that when I saw pictures taken of him in the Czechoslovakian crisis; there was in his eyes the look of a seer. This markedly mystic characteristic of Hitler's is what makes him do things which seem to us illogical, inexplicable, and unreasonable. … So you see, Hitler is a medicine man, a spiritual vessel, a demi-deity or, even better, a myth.
Carl Jung, Hearst's International Cosmopolitan, January 1939.
I have never met a happier people than the Germans and Hitler is one of the greatest men. The old trust him; the young idolise him. It is the worship of a national hero who has saved his country.
WWI UK PM David Lloyd George, Daily Express, September 17, 1936.
It is an old, often-used method of International Jewry to discredit education and knowledge about its corrupting nature and drives, thereby depending on the weaknesses of those people who easily confuse cause with effect. The Jews are also masters at manipulating public opinion, which they dominate through their network of news agencies and press concerns that reaches throughout the world. The pitiful illusion of a free press is one of the methods they use to stupefy the publics of enemy lands
>Only Germans in Germany could own guns I believe. >Technically no laws were put in place restricting either guns
Nice, guns are so important. All other political options seem to have deep flaws and NatSoc/Fascism is no different but it seems to be the best. If a society could remain ethnically monolithic, I think the freedoms such as gun ownership and free speech could work for the benefit of that society, since no foreign agents would be there to twist it in the first place.
I think the state and corporations share essentially the same inherent evil, namely the exercise of power over individuals due to a hierarchical structure. if you have an ascending hierarchy of power that becomes more and more concentrated, those higher positions will attract those who wish to exercise that power for their own self interest. even if you put "good" people that do not wish to serve their own self interest in those positions, they will either be corrupted or be replaced by someone who will.
Angel Davis
Fascism failed, all 15 of you should try something new.
a lot of white people also suck though. cos they're people. I don't feel an attachment to my race, gender, or sexuality or the urge to commiserate with others that happen to share those inherent biological features
Daniel Brooks
It was crushed by half of the world and it took them 6 or so years to fully defeat it.
Alexander Richardson
I hear ya. Thats how i was but it's not quite enough because we still need a government that restricts private businesses from outsourcing jobs and doing things that work against the interest of the people
>implying 6 years is impressive in a historical sense also >implying its fail wasn't because of its faults lastly because i know Hitler's greatness will be brought up, and credit to him. But again, extreme aggression is not sustainable. If Hitler just stopped with Poland, enjoyed what he had, prepped for the soviets, we would be having a massively different conversation.
Charles Clark
Fascism never failed, every time it needed an foreign power to remove it. Good job, leaf. We both can play this game, commie.
>Fascism never failed, every time it needed an foreign power to remove it. Yup, that's failure stupid, or are all those countries snatched up by fascism suppose to just bend over? If you're saying fascism only works under specific conditions then it doesn't work.
The Soviet Union crumbling means communism has failed. Nazi fall after being hijacked by Hitler is a failure.
just stop the cope, you can invest in a fascism hybred ideology even
Mason Bennett
>let me attack all my neighbors! >W-wtf!?!? Why are you all gaining up on me, fucking faggots! That nigger "i just wanted to show the cops my gun" logic.
Your underlying argument is that only victory determines if a political system is a success or a failure, which I believe is misleading specially in WWII's case. The sheer number of people and resources employed to defeat the Axis wasn't the result of their enemie's superior political system, whereas the advancements made by the 3rd Reich (whose fruits we still enjoy today) was a direct result of their system. On a 1v1 match, France and Eastern Europe were no match against the Germans.
No dude, that doesn't mean it's a failure, failure would've mean that they would collapse by actions their own goverment (Which is exactally what happened to the USSR), they didn't collapse because of NatSoc, they collapsed because the entire western world was against them. TL;DR: Failure woud've meant it was because of fascism that they collapsed, which is false. You finally got it. Welcome to the bad goys group.
From then on, things developed in the United States and in the German Reich in such a way that future generations will have no difficulty in making a definitive evaluation of the two different socio-political theories. Whereas the German Reich experienced an enormous improvement in social, economic, cultural and artistic life in just a few years under National Socialist leadership, President Roosevelt was not able to bring about even limited improvements in his own country. This task should have been much easier in the United States, with barely 15 people per square kilometer, as compared to 140 in Germany. If economic prosperity is not possible in that country, it must be the result of either a lack of will by the ruling leadership or the complete incompetence of the men in charge. In just five years, the economic problems were solved in Germany and unemployment was eliminated.
During this same period, President Roosevelt enormously increased his country's national debt, devalued the dollar, further disrupted the economy and maintained the same number of unemployed. >227237471
>Hello, DNC shill, how are you doing? you're a faggot and Italians are niggers change my mind.
Charles Gray
May be seen as dumb but I sense the "Force", Providence, God, whatever, is with us. It's a time of darkness right now but much change is brewing under the hoods, and (((they))) sense it, I can sense it too, a shift is taking place.
I also believe threads like /nsg/ are important but they're so heavy on material it's hard for a newcomer to start. An infographic explaining the first steps into this path would be good, but I've not delved deeply into the literature to make one. Maybe a new type of /nsg/ for newbies would be better, instead of bombarding them with a load of info without directions.
Thanks, maybe one day someone or even me can make a sort of "roadmap" to Fascist/NatSoc literature/material, something like what they have on Khan Academy, but for "bad boys". I was told to start with "The Myth of the 20th Century". Haven't read it a lot, just a few pages, but seems to be a completely different take on society and politics.
I’ve heard talk in podcasts about some guy in Barcelona named “Pedro Valera” or something, and about some natsoc works called “Sedada” or “Sadata” or something, this ring any bells?
