What do you have against Christianity?

Pretty much all early Christians were based and redpilled.

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Pagancucks BTFO

They were suicide fetishist martyrs. Christianity wasn't based and redpilled until Augustine gave it an overhaul.

We can read the answer to your question in the Bible itself.

"You will be hated by everyone on account of My name, but the one who perseveres to the end will be saved." (Matthew 10:22)

Jesus told us exactly why people will hate us. They will hate us because of the name of Jesus.

Persevere, brother. The kingdom of heaven is near.

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You are mistaken because you do not know the scriptures or the power of God.

'But Jesus told him, “Follow Me, and let the dead bury their own dead.”' (Matthew 8:22)

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only faggots are against Christ

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And give the poor your clothes and money, and let all the illegal beaners in because we're all one people blah blah turn the other cheek

Amen, brother. May Christ forgive faggots their abominable sins and mend their broken minds. May He forgive our own sins too and mend our own minds too.

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"The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field. When a man found it, he hid it again, and in his joy he went and sold all he had and bought that field." (Matthew 13:44)

When you achieve enlightenment, you will realize that it is YOU who has always been poor and naked and illegal.

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>all early christcucks were jews

fixed

thr main thing bringing me to Christianity is seeing how much the jews hate it and ridicule it in their media

"When Jesus had entered Capernaum, a centurion came and pleaded with Him, 'Lord, my servant lies at home, paralyzed and in terrible agony.'" (Matthew 8:5-6)

TIL Roman centurions were jews (?????)

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I have never been given a valid reason to believe it's claims. I knew I didn't believe in the christian god before I even knew what an atheist was.

>(1 Peter 4:4) Because YOU do not continue running with them in this course to the same low sink of debauchery, they are puzzled and go on speaking abusively of YOU.

>(John 15:19) If YOU were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because YOU are no part of the world, but I have chosen YOU out of the world, on this account the world hates YOU.

>(John 15:18) If the world hates YOU, YOU know that it has hated me before it hated YOU.

>(Matthew 10:22) And YOU will be objects of hatred by all people on account of my name; but he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved.

>(Matthew 24:9) “Then people will deliver YOU up to tribulation and will kill YOU, and YOU will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name.

>(2 Timothy 3:12) In fact, all those desiring to live with godly devotion in association with Christ Jesus will also be persecuted

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If you read Acts you can clearly see its early degeneration. It decayed and became less ethnocentric and more pacifist despite Jesus while alive saying He comes only for the lost sheep of Israel and to sell your cloak and buy a sword. After Biblical Times they were being slaughtered without resistance like timid animals and thought they were virtuous for dying in such a way. Augustine had to duct tape just war theory onto it for it to finally become successful. But now Christianity is decaying in the exactly the same ways again because the same pharisees as before are back in power. Christianity is becoming pacifist again and the tribal parts of the Bible are being twisted to mean "spiritual" ethnicity or even worse only applicable to the pharisees.

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I. THE GREAT SECRET -- "FOR THERE IS NOTHING COVERED THAT WILL NOT BE REVEALED" (Mat. 10.26)

The New Testament, the Church, and Christianity, were all the creation of the Calpurnius Piso (pronounced Peso) 1 family, who were Roman aristocrats. The New Testament and all the characters in it -- Jesus, all the Josephs, all the Marys all the disciples, apostles, Paul, and John the Baptist -- are all fictional. The Pisos created the story and the characters; they tied the story into a specific time and place in history; and they connected it with some peripheral actual people, such as the Herods, Gamaliel, the Roman procurators, etc. But Jesus and everyone involved with him were created (that is, fictional!) characters.

Repeatedly, religious-minded Judaean zealots were staging insurrections against the Herodian rulers of Judaea who were Piso's wife's relations. Piso wished to strengthen his wife's family's control of the Judaeans.

The Pisos searched for a solution to the two problems. They found it in the Jewish holy books, which were the foundation both for the rapid spread of the religion and for the zealots' refusal to be governed by Rome's puppets. The Pisos mocked, but marveled at, the Jewish belief in their holy books. Therefore, they felt a new "Jewish" book would be the ideal method to pacify the Judaeans and strengthen their inlaws' control of the country.

About the year 60 A.D., Lucius Calpurnius Piso composed Ur Marcus, the first version of the Gospel of Mark, which no longer exists. He was encouraged by his friend Seneca 5a and assisted by his wife's kinsman, young Persius the poet.


The Jesus figure which Piso creates is a composite. He inserts redrawn elements from Joseph in Egypt and other Jews of the Bible; elements from Essenic writings; and characteristics of various pagan gods.

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It doesn't make sense, oh and original sin.
>The OT God that burned two cities to the ground for sodomy, hated Esau, plagued the whole of Egypt for the sins of a few aristocrats and tortured Job in a bet with the devil is the same God as the NT God
>Entire books have been taken out of the Bible and declared "non-canonical" by men
>largest sect is lead by a pedophilic oligarchy in Rome
>Apparently Idol worship is okay when you declare someone a "saint"
>apparently you should pay the debts of someone you never met 100s of years ago because your related to them or something

>He comes only for the lost sheep of Israel

You're talking about Matthew 15:24 where Jesus says that to a Canaanite woman. Literally four verses later in Matthew 15:28, Jesus reveals he was merely saying it to test her faith, and in fact grants her the healing she requested.

'“O woman,” Jesus answered, “your faith is great! Let it be done for you as you desire.” And her daughter was healed from that very hour.' (Matthew 15:28)

On the other hand, rather than cherry-picking a random saying of Christ totally out of context, you could take literally his very final words in the Gospel of Matthew, the "Great Commission", where he says:

"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age." (Matthew 28:19-20)

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THE CHURCH FATHERS. Between 100 and 105 additional Christian books were already being done -- by the same authors who were finishing the New Testament itself. Julius wrote an epistle as Clement of Rome. Pliny wrote a number of epistles as St. Ignatius. Proculus wrote one as St. Polycarp. By these writings, the authors were installing themselves, in their own time, as the legitimate successors of the apostles Peter and Paul who had supposedly written in the middle of the past century. This facade entitled them, as they now went among their new believers, to be the legitimate propagandizers and interpreters of the Christian writings.

THE SEPTUAGINT. Father, too, was busy. Piso was amending the Greek Septuagint. In his gospels he had strengthened his story by misquoting places from the Hebrew Scriptures. He changed language in the Septuagint to make it conform with the NT misquotes. That way, there would be an alleged "correct" translation of the Hebrew Scriptures with which the NT quotations agreed.

THE APOCRYPHA. Piso wished to create a strong foundation on which to place the new faith. So between 100 and 115 he recreated the story of the "400 lost years" of Jewish history. He did this by also writing most of the 14 books of the Apocrypha, including Esdras, I Maccabees, Judith, Tobit, Bel and the Dragon. By making Jewish history brave and glorious, the empire's peoples would more readily accept it as their own history and become the new Israel.

THE WRITINGS OF ARRIAN. Later, between 130 and 150, Arrian (Arrianus, longer form of his grandfather's name Arius) would emulate him... And he would compose, in addition to Hebrews, many Christian books: The Shepherd of Hermas, Barnabas, the Didache, Martyrdom of Polycarp, Epistle to Diognetus; as well as 24 volumes on Roman history; an account of Alexander's campaign into India; the writings of the purported astronomer Ptolemy; and the lecture notes of Epictetus, his Stoic instructor (whom he created!).

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It's complete nonsense.

Made up by degenerates for tax free money.

this. cucktianity is retarded

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>>The OT God that burned two cities to the ground for sodomy,

Nothing wrong with that.

>hated Esau,

Nothing wrong with that

>plagued the whole of Egypt for the sins of a few aristocrats

It was so Jehovah could demonstrate his full power to everyone. The Pharaoh was given multiple chances to let the Jews go but he refused. Jehovah is a force of nature. When he kills people there is nothing wrong with that.


>tortured Job in a bet with the devil is the same God as the NT God

It was actually Satan who tortured Job but God did allow it because he slandered God as a briber of men. Satan claimed that the only reason Job loved him was because of the blessings God gave him and that if he removed those blessings Job would curse God to his face.

>largest sect is lead by a pedophilic oligarchy in Rome
>Apparently Idol worship is okay when you declare someone a "saint"

Catholicism is not Christianity

>apparently you should pay the debts of someone you never met 100s of years ago because your related to them or something

That's covered by Jesus.

The exception doesn't make the rule.
“These twelve Jesus sent: commanding them, saying: Go ye not into the way of the Gentiles, and into the city of the Samaritans enter ye not.”
St Matthew 10:5

Except they weren't. And many of the first ones were jews.

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Although Jesus ministry did start with the Jews it was meant to also be recorded so that people of other nations would benefit from it later. Jesus knew that the majority of Jews reject him and that his ministry would later on have to focus on non-Jews. That's why Jesus said below:

>(Matthew 24:14) And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.


>“Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them.”—Matt. 28:19.

>(Acts 1:8)..., and YOU will be witnesses of me both in Jerusalem and in all Ju·dea and Sa·mari·a and to the most distant part of the earth.”

Gal. 3:27-29: “All of you who were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is NEITHER JEW nor Greek, there is neither slave nor freeman, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one person in union with Christ Jesus. Moreover, if you belong to Christ,YOU ARE REALLY ABRAHAM'S SEED, heirs with REFERENCE TO A PROMISE.

Actually, Stone Henge was built immediately prior to the Aryan invasion, by Western Hunter-Gatherers, who were a swarthy people with mid to light hair, and the full range of eye-colors seen in modern European peoples.

It was however, immediately appropriated by the Aryans as a place of power and ritual significance, probably because it looked cool.

I know you're just posting bad communist memes, but this is a subject of my interest.

Your cult is literally one of the worst degenerations of Christianity. You're all faggy pacifists and as evidenced by your post shill a multicult interpretation of Christianity.

it hasn't been updated properly in too long.

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do christcucks really believe god came down in sandnigger form 2000 years ago in the desert, to sacrifice himself to himself for the sins he gave us, and he cured a blind mind with spit and mud?

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A number has been done on you.

>hated Esau,
>Nothing wrong with that
There was nothing wrong with Esau, it was Jacob that kiked him out of his inheritance. Esau did nothing wrong and provided for his traitorous mother, his blind father, and his lazy, treacherous, jew brother Jacob. Esau did nothing wrong.
>The Pharaoh was given multiple chances to let the Jews go but he refused.
Read Exodus again. It was (((yahweh))) that hardened his heart. Pharaoh was willing to let them go but (((yahweh))) is the sort of sick sadist that would chose the jews of all peoples on Earth as his chosen. So Pharaoh was not allowed to let them go according to the narrative.
>It was actually Satan who tortured Job but God did allow it
(((yahweh))) agreed to this for shits and giggles basically especially if you are following monotheistic theology, which all extant sects of judaism and it's psyop spinoffs do. Job did jack shit.

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the EARLY christians were killed by the "ORTHODOX" christians for trumped up blasphemy. You don't worship the same religion the followers of Jesus had. You're worshipping an invention created hundreds of years later, by the deceiver. Enjoy hell. Say hi to Satan for me when you meet him.

Back when Constantine was like "im gonna unify the empire with Christianity" then he realized just how petty and divided the Christians were. I always thought that was funny

IS IT ME OR LATELY THIS THREADS ARE POPPING LIKE MUSHROOMS

>Jewish subversion of Pagan Rome
BASED
>Pic related happens over the next 1600 years
REDPILLED

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>There was nothing wrong with Esau, it was Jacob that kiked him out of his inheritance.

Esau WILLINGLY sold his birthright to Jacob for a bowl of lentils. Thus, showing huge disappreciation for God's gifts.

>Read Exodus again. It was (((yahweh))) that hardened his heart. Pharaoh was willing to let them go but (((yahweh))) is the sort of sick sadist that would chose the jews of all peoples on Earth as his chosen. So Pharaoh was not allowed to let them go according to the narrative.

Not literally, not in the sense or "reprogramming" him. God KNEW pharaoh would be stubborn and be unwilling to change. So the Bible rightfully said that it was God that did it because his plea to let the Jews go WOULD harden Pharaoh's heart.

>(((yahweh))) agreed to this for shits and giggles basically especially if you are following monotheistic theology, which all extant sects of judaism and it's psyop spinoffs do. Job did jack shit.

That's because what you don't understand is that Jehovah's holiness is more important than your life and wellbeing. You are not entitled to anything, not even life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness. Life is A PRIVILEGE NOT A RIGHT. Nobody has the right to live.

>That's because what you don't understand is that Jehovah's holiness is more important than your life and wellbeing. You are not entitled to anything, not even life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness. Life is A PRIVILEGE NOT A RIGHT. Nobody has the right to live.
This is why real Christians don't take your retarded cult seriously. Your digits confirm you serve Satan.

Shut up Demiurge, noones falling for your bullshit today.

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>forgive faggots

If you're serious, try not using terms like that. Yes I know the Bible is explicitly against the acts of homosexuality, but we still shouldn't be throwing around highly charged words like 'faggot'.

Christians are decent people, atheists are the sickening ones.

>/>227258218
Step your bait game up faggot

>march throughout the greatest empire of its time
>apply critical theory to all aspects of its society
>"God is the only true ruler over men, not the emperor"
>"violence is wrong. No more wars and no more gladiators"
>"love trumps hate"
>everyone gladly accepts your god but continues to worship their own gods too
>"no! your gods are fake! only our god is real"
>somebody finally has enough of your shit and hits you
>"ahh this is like another shoah! We're so oppressed"
>finally convince an emperor to convert
>"you have to convert, the emperor said so!"
>start killing everyone who doesn't convert
>start destroying historic artifacts and locations
>Roman empire collapses
>Europe is thrown into the dark ages
>Churches now have control
>"give to the poor" becomes "the poor must pay tithe"
>"the church is the voice of god and must be obeyed"
>use tithe given to fund wars to fight for Israel
>continue to kill fellow Europeans for centuries and erase their history

What's not to like?

Jesus called Pharisee children of the devil and brood of vipers. why cant we call faggots faggots?

1) Christianity is the complete opposite of the ideals that led to this modern world.
Openness of thought, free inquiry, debate. These are the things which created the industrial revolution, and the modern world. These are purely European ideals represented by the great thinkers of history. Christianity is fundamentally the complete opposite of this, it is imposing doctrines through force and indoctrination. Encouraging a rigid and unquestioning mindset.

2) Christianity is not good at imposing morals.
Your behavior is largely genetic, that's simply a fact. So Christians can pound their fist all day about not cheating on your wife, and yet half their congregation does it, because that's their genes. You'll never train blacks to be upstanding citizens using faith. However, there are indeed ways to change human behavior for real, through laws and education. You don't need Christianity, in fact the haphazard and inexact way that Christians push this stuff can often make things worse.

3) Christianity makes bad arguments.
In the last 50 years, Christians have displayed a complete inability to convince intelligent people. Anyone with a brain flees from this stuff. Intelligent people might be religious, but it's often not in the doctrinaire way that Christians insist upon. This is bad because the entire right wing has anchored themselves to Christianity. So we are going down with their ship. We have all the educated, intelligent, innovative people against us, and the only ones on our side are basically the peasant underclass. This is the fundamental reason the left is winning. If the right could embrace science (which is largely on their side by the way), they could start winning over people, and pushing the culture back the other direction.

Overall, Christians do not have access to the successful mindset, and that is evidenced by how unsuccessful Christians are in society. Instead they devote their mental energies to studying this 2000 year old book

i've seen alot of women wearing crosses in porn aswell, wonder if the kikes ask them to do it

>Christianity is the complete opposite of the ideals that led to this modern world.
>Openness of thought, free inquiry, debate. These are the things which created the industrial revolution, and the modern world.
You just convinced me to convert to Christianity.

>Esau WILLINGLY sold his birthright to Jacob for a bowl of lentils. Thus, showing huge disappreciation for God's gifts.
Tell the rest of the story and stop pilpulling like a kike. Esau was literally GOING TO STARVE TO DEATH if he didn't have the meager soup Jacob was selling. This was after years of Esau providing for his family with his hunts. Read Genesis 25: 27-34.
"27 The boys grew up, and Esau became a skillful hunter, a man of the open country, while Jacob was content to stay at home among the tents. 28 Isaac, who had a taste for wild game, loved Esau, but Rebekah loved Jacob.
29 Once when Jacob was cooking some stew, Esau came in from the open country, famished. 30 He said to Jacob, “Quick, let me have some of that red stew! I’m famished!” (That is why he was also called Edom.[f])
31 Jacob replied, “First sell me your birthright.”
32 “Look, I am about to die,” Esau said. “What good is the birthright to me?”
33 But Jacob said, “Swear to me first.” So he swore an oath to him, selling his birthright to Jacob.
34 Then Jacob gave Esau some bread and some lentil stew. He ate and drank, and then got up and left."
(((yahweh))) was the one that wanted to continue the plagues.
Exodus 9:12
"12 But the Lord hardened Pharaoh’s heart and he would not listen to Moses and Aaron, just as the Lord had said to Moses."
Pharoah was willing to let the (((israelites))) go after the plague of frogs.
Exodus 8:8-10
"8 Pharaoh summoned Moses and Aaron and said, “Pray to the Lord to take the frogs away from me and my people, and I will let your people go to offer sacrifices to the Lord.”
9 Moses said to Pharaoh, “I leave to you the honor of setting the time for me to pray for you and your officials and your people that you and your houses may be rid of the frogs, except for those that remain in the Nile.”
10 “Tomorrow,” Pharaoh said."
"Nobody has the right to live."
How kiked can you get? You literally believe you have no right to exist.

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>implying the modern world is a good thing
>implying "intellectuals" shouldn't be strung to lampposts and beaten like pinatas
>implying you shouldn't try to be your best morally despite genetic circumstance

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>Christianity is the complete opposite of the ideals that led to this modern world.

This. Democracy, philosophy, and science were pagan creations. The people behind the age of enlightenment all looked to the past, at a time before Christianity, for their ideals after those ideals were suppressed by Christians for over a millennia.

Pagans believe you should "know thyself"
Christians believe you should "know god"

based

The reason that morals are failing in the modern world is because Christians have failed to convince this intellectual class, driving them all super far left. It is the failure of christianity that is responsible for this.

If you would just use scientific arguments you might actually be successful convincing people and winning

>Your behavior is largely genetic, that's simply a fact. So Christians can pound their fist all day about not cheating on your wife, and yet half their congregation does it, because that's their genes. You'll never train blacks to be upstanding citizens using faith. However, there are indeed ways to change human behavior for real, through laws and education
This. And the best way to change change behavior for real is eugenics. Create conditions to propagate genes for good behavior and conditions to weed out genes for bad behavior and suddenly, there will be much more good behavior around. Keep doing this and nearly everyone will be righteous one day. Unfortunately, eugenics is strictly forbidden in Christianity due to the idea that "all people are in (((God's))) image".

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>This. Democracy, philosophy, and science were pagan creations.
Hold up there when you're talking about democracy you need to clarify things since most people think your talking Masonic Liberal Democracy, which like Christianity is jewish in origin and to its very core, rather than say the Roman Republic, which did a lot of good especially rooting hereditary leadership.

I mean you don't need to use eugenics, because that is repugnant to some people.
But you can use culture to shape genetics over time.

I suppose Christianity does this to some extent, but they don't have a proper understanding for cause and effect, so their policies might be rather inexact and not targeted to solving the problem.

So for example, one key mistake that Catholics made was not allowing their priests to marry.
We can of course predict the results of this policy, but if you are relying on faith you cannot.

Good point, my bad

>scientific argument
Fucking lol. I've been arguing with progressives for years with evidence and never has one budged an inch. The aristocrats and the clerg-I mean "intellectuals" have no interest in arguing or rationality, they exist only to consume and rule over the retarded peasantry that their ancestors bred. The exact same thing happened in Rome and several times in China with disastrous results.

I am a Christian that supports Israel. supporting the house of Saud ( that's Saudi Arabia) is not my first choice. but Iran wants to bring armageddon and the 12th emon. we can put our heads into the sand no longer. pay now or pay later. we fight in thier yard or we fight in ours. the world hasnt changed people, but u pussies have. Americans have gone soft and liberal. we are the future French if we dont grow a pair and quick.

>I suppose Christianity does this to some extent, but they don't have a proper understanding for cause and effect, so their policies might be rather inexact and not targeted to solving the problem.
Doing this intentionally is better than doing it by accident. It's why the rate scientific progress rapidly improved with the invention of the scientific method. Generally making and testing theories about why things work the way they do can guide experimentation to learn more much faster than pure accident.

>what do you have against christianity
The fact that it teaches and conditions believers into being anti critical reasoning. The fact that it brainwashes children to grow up into literal superstition believing retarded adults. Christianity collectively rots the human mind.

>What do you have against an ancient semitic religion that teaches people to worship a Jewish Rabbi as God?

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The failure worship is only because it degenerated. Jesus said judge a tree by its fruits which is an obvious call for utilitarianism. However, I'm a high IQ individual from a high IQ family so like you said I don't interpret Christianity the same way the commoner does.

I'm telling you, the reason that all these intelligent people are going far left is because the right is only bringing religious arguments to the table. It's really foolish, especially how literally all the science and logic is on your side. You can win this.

I'm not saying to give up your faith even, just maybe you can bring different arguments to the table.
Build an intellectual movement alongside your religious movement.

I've seen this happen to people several times. Here's just an example of what I'm talking about, Styx is an intelligent young man with a bright future, and although he was raised religions he found himself separated from the faith because he was persuaded by arguments.

youtube.com/watch?v=MIPVInwgSR8

He is naturally a pretty right wing person, and so he found his way back to being conservative. But he was supporting Bernie and being very left wing for a long time. I only bring this up because I think it's emblematic for something that millions of intelligent young people are also going through. I really think this is the root of a lot of this left wing stuff.

>The reason that morals are failing in the modern world is because Christians have failed to convince this intellectual class,
wrong. They failed because Christianity tied it's entire morality to divine retribution/reward, instead of something undeniable, visible, and relevant in the here and now like say, "securing the existence of our people and a future for white children"

>32 “Look, I am about to die,” Esau said. “What good is the birthright to me?”

>32 “Look, I am about to die,” Esau said. “What good is the birthright to me?”

Esau said. “What good is the birthright to me?”

Did you skip this part?

>"12 But the Lord hardened Pharaoh’s heart and he would not listen to Moses and Aaron, just as the Lord had said to Moses."

That was explained already. Pharaoh just kept putting God to the test over and over again. He even lost his first born son and STILL went after the Jews in the Red Sea. That was his fault. Again, that wasn't God REPROGRAMMING people, that was God KNOWING AHEAD OF TIME that Pharaoh would refuse over and over again because of how predictable humans are to him.

>You literally believe you have no right to exist.

Go give birth to yourself and resurrect yourself when the time comes then. Stop your own aging if you are that important.

>Christians believe you should "know god"

(Ephesians 5:15) So keep strict watch that how YOU walk is not as unwise but as wise [persons],

(Galatians 6:4) But let each one prove what his own work is, and then he will have cause for exultation in regard to himself alone, and not in comparison with the other person.

Shouldn't Christians want Armageddon? Isn't everything supposed to be perfect after it is over? Why not accelerate it?

Unironically this. A distant punishment is not persuasive. A dumb kid isn't going to stay chaste and drug free when they can just repent before they turn 60. The result of this bad persuasion is roasties and brain damage.

>Shouldn't Christians want Armageddon?

BINGO!! Yes! You just figured it out. A TRUE Christian should only want Armageddon. NOT rewards in this world. The reason why (((Christians))) refuse to talk about Armageddon is because:

>No converts

You can't convert people with telling them your friends and family members who refuse to convert with you will all die when the time comes.

>Too much to lose

A lost of (((Christians))) are greedy, selfish, self-absorbed, and ambitious. They have too much to lose in this world so won't look forward to Armageddon.

>Social status

A lot of (((Christians))) have good social statuses like the Pharisees and rich Jews of old who felt threatened by Jesus because it would mean dethroning them from their social hierarchies.

>You can either be right or you can fit in.

Talking about Armageddon to the normie (((Christians))) is taboo because a lot of them are scared of it or are confused by it because their churches won't teach it. They see it as something negative and scary so bringing it up is going to get you outcasted.

>Did you skip this part?
No. his birthright does him no good if he dies and leaves no descendants.
Here is Esau's birthright;
1. To make of Abraham a great nation and to bless those who bless him and curse those who curse him and all peoples on earth would be blessed through Abraham.[Gen 12:1–3]
2. To give Abraham's descendants all the land from the river (or wadi) of Egypt to the Euphrates.[Gen 15:18–21] Later, this land came to be referred to as the Promised Land or the Land of Israel.
3. To make Abraham the father of many nations and of many descendants and give "the whole land of Canaan" to his descendants.[Gen 17:2–9]
4. Circumcision is to be the permanent sign of this everlasting covenant with Abraham and his male descendants and is known as the brit milah.[Gen 17:9–14]
Really you can't make a great nation if you have no descendants. You can bequeath all the land from the Nile to the Euphrates to your descendants if you have no descendants. If you have not one child you cannot be the father of many nations. Quite frankly is Esau died right there and then, his birthright would be meaningless.
>That was explained already. Pharaoh just kept putting God to the test over and over again. He even lost his first born son and STILL went after the Jews in the Red Sea.
It was very clearly an active action on part of (((yahweh))) as clearly described in the wording used you don't write "Bob made Rick drop the ball" if you meant "Bob knew Rick was going to drop the ball". (((yahweh))) was making Pharoah refuse over and over again.
>You literally believe you have no right to exist.
>Go give birth to yourself and resurrect yourself when the time comes then. Stop your own aging if you are that important.
You are as kiked as the most rabid self-hating white SJW and you don't even know it.

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how would Esau be able to fulfil his birthright, the promise given to abraham, if he were to die before getting children?
Esau would not have been able to die, because then the promise would be broken.

>his birthright does him no good if he dies and leaves no descendants.
Someone please explain this before I start empathizing with the edomite jews. If Esau was literally forced to give away the birthright doesn't it make sense that his descendants would try to reclaim it and larp as God's chosen?

So Esau just lacked faith?

>Really you can't make a great nation if you have no descendants.

That's true which meant that GOD WOULD NOT HAVE LET HIM STARVE TO DEATH. Esau KNEW God would not let him starve to death but he allowed his impatience and impulsivity to make a stupid decision. He could have offered Jacob anything else. He could have offered him some game later on to himself if he wanted. He could just have gone to his mother or father for something to eat. He KNEW he wasn't going to starve to death no matter what.

Bingo

he wasnt forced. He gave it away out of his own account because he lacked faith. If he would have proper faith then he would have realized that the promise requires Esau to create off spring. If he dies he cant do that and thus the line and thus promise would have been broken. He was pretty much immortal until he would have managed to knock up some woman.
Not to forget the general teaching of God that he will always provide for you and that you wont lack anything. He didnt trust that, feared to starve, and forsook his birthright because of it.

Jacob would get it regardless in that case.

Why not just call them gay or homosexual? You can get your point across in any discussion without having people accuse you of being a homophobe.

>God can help those who partake in homosexual acts

vs.

>God can help faggots

Which statement do you think would drive more unbelievers away from Christ?

Some quotes from a book that practically nobody follows. That's not what I hear preached.
This post you made was pretty good though. You sound like one of the few who actually follows the book. I can respect that, even if I don't believe it or agree with you.

No if he died it would be Jacob's.

Marcus Aurelius was the smartest and most stoic man that ever lived and he made it his personal mission to eradicate Christianity. I wonder why.

who says anything about fear of homos? or even distaste?
I dont care much about gays, I do care about those however that run around on the streets with dildos on their head in front of children and indoctrinating them and sexualizing them. those desecrating the holy marriage by demanding the right to marry and adopt. these are faggots.

Ah, so that's why Jesus praising faith as a virtue ticked off the pharisees so much. The foundation myth of the NT is mostly Isaac's family.

You SHOULD care about regular gays. Because they all eventually turn into the guy with a dildo on his head. Such is the nature of lust. A thirst that cannot be quenched. One that will lead you to destroying others.

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even assuming this is correct, there is still the general lack of faith, that he feared that God would just leave him to die despite the promise to provide for his people.
He valued his own life more than the blessing of God too despite the blessing being of way more value.
Regardless it was pretty retarded of him.

I get the criticisms but the second to last one
>It will be monopolized for power and used to lock the western world in misery and poverty for a thousand years
You guys really need to learn more about history if you still believe that. The dark ages were right after the fall of the Roman Empire, it's a complex time in history and Christianity is only a piece of the puzzle. Christianity may have contributed to the fall of the empire, and the Catholic Church did become very corrupt, but when you put the blame for the dark ages solely on Christianity, you just sound like an idiot. Also, the dark ages weren't as dark as people think. Gothic cathedrals are testament to that.

well, there are very few leading "normal" relationships. Im sure God doesnt see kindly to that either, but at least they have some decency left.
A somewhat questionable take on the scripture, but thats something I thought about. Now Homosexuals are commanded to be punished by death, for which usually stoning was used. Now this here is in case of Idoltry, but we can assume for Homosexuals it was similary:
>2If a man or woman among you in one of the towns that the LORD your God gives you is found doing evil in the sight of the LORD your God by transgressing His covenant 3and going to worship other gods, bowing down to them or to the sun or moon or any of the host of heaven—which I have forbidden— 4and if it is reported and you hear about it, you must investigate it thoroughly.
>If the report is true and such an abomination has happened in Israel, 5you must bring out to your gates that man or woman who has done this evil thing, and stone that person to death. 6On the testimony of two or three witnesses a man shall be put to death, but he shall not be executed on the testimony of a lone witness. 7The hands of the witnesses shall be the first in putting him to death, and after that, the hands of all the people. You must purgea the evil from among you.
Now assuming its about gays, then we need 2-3 witness accounts. How do you get 2-3 witnesses that can testify you are gay? either they participated and saw you, in which case they probably wont bring it up, or you are a vocal faggot propagizing it in which case people will know.
If you just have gay sex maybe 1 guy walks in at some point, but you dont get the witnesses required. So I wondered if Gods main issue too is with the vocal faggots.

Destroyed Europe

youtube.com/watch?v=Z8nFVPECdoo

The Revelation of Jesus Christ chapters 2 and 3.

Because Jesus is basically a zombie.

Zombies are decay. Christ Jesus is life everlasting.

You weren't there.

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the pope

I am a spiritual person. Many of Christ's ideas are fine, but I am not religious. I won't lie to my fellow man.

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But He is fully alive. And the witness of the Holy Spirit is true.

>even assuming this is correct, there is still the general lack of faith, that he feared that God would just leave him to die
There is nothing that hints at a lack of faith in the text

IT WOULD GO TO JACOB

Samuel 15:3
"Now go and smite Amalek and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.’”

but fellas, I though jesus was chill hippy dude