AA - I’m an Addict

My name is Tim.

It was hard tonight, out on the town, and I’m struggling. Can’t sleep. No answer from my sponsor. Any anons 12step? Here for you too, anons

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I don't do twelve step Tim but I'll tell you this: every second you spend not drinking the fermented Jew, the stronger you are.

Have a drink, faggot. It'll settle you right down.

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You still here? Hope you're ok. How's the program working for you?

Thanks brother. I know that. And I’m trying. Just feeling lonely and jonesing bad.

The urge will pass - whether you drink or not. If drinking is your doc - doesn't really matter what it is.

Six months sober, god bless.

I’ve been avoiding weekends and went out tonight and felt out of place from the beginning as all the old friends had beers and I stuck to seltzer. Got home an hour ago and ran on the treadmill to try to burn off the anxiety...

Nice Masonic symbolism going on there

I went through opioids last year and decided to go clean completely this year. No booze, CrossFit, straight edge. I’ve lost too much health and mind already. Honestly the last six have been a harder adjustment than kicking the painkillers. Sober life sucks.

>I’ve been avoiding weekends and went out tonight and felt out of place from the beginning as all the old friends had beers and I stuck to seltzer. Got home an hour ago and ran on the treadmill to try to burn off the anxiety...
trendy fag

anxiety is fear
fear is the mind killer
>"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."

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Well I don't know who your sponsor is but you had no business out with the same people you've always hung out with.

You don't have to change a thing when you get sober, except for everything.

People
Places
Things

I've been clean and sober for nearly 20 years now, but I couldn't deal with AA. I couldn't deal with labeling myself a drunk for the rest of my life. The whole thing just didn't sit well with me, but if it works for YOU, that's all that matters.

No. They need a 13th step to blame society after you're done taking personal responsibility. It's objectively blame worthy. Might want to make it a big reveal rather than an opener, so it doesn't distract from the self work first.

Damn friend keep on keeping on, life will yield sometime soon. By then youll have been keeping up on the score and will for sure let her have it.

It’s not my old crowd. New friend but we went out to a bar and they don’t know I’m sober. That’s a hard thing to get by with new friends. The reality is most people drink. After getting off painkillers, I’m trying and struggling to navigate the rest...

I wish I had bene gesserit Kwisatz Haderach powers but I don’t, user. I’m just human trying to cope.

>I wish I had bene gesserit Kwisatz Haderach powers but I don’t, user.
Are you a human or an animal? That's the power
>what's in the bottle?
PAIN

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Honestly, it 3am here. And I know an after hours a block away where I could buy a fifth, drink half and sleep like a baby. Instead I figure I’ll be fighting insomnia and anxiety and will be fucked up sober through tomorrow...

Ha. Love the movie. I have the MiniSeries of Dune I’ve been meaning to watch. You give me an excuse...

>we went out to a bar and they don’t know I’m sober. That’s a hard thing to get by with new friends.
it's a quick way to find out if they are even worth your time, most people are pretty okay with having a solid designated driver bro
>but I don’t, user. I’m just human trying to cope.
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new movie gonna suck or what

yeah but you have been there and done that.. you know where that road leads..
you could do that.. or you could stick it out and fight through the urge. you made it this far. get back on the treadmill if you need to. run that shit out if you need to. try taking a shower. occupy your mind with something if you can.

jack off twice then eat too much. stop testing yourself by thinking logistics of how to get a drink like some instinctual cockroach.
Your anxiety is a parasitic delusion about
>tomorrow...
tomorrow doesn't exist

Ha!

Thanks for being here user. Never thought Toto would make me feel better. Well, not really.... muscically.

Yeah, I’m looking forward to the Nolan reboot. ...

Keep up the good work brother. I rarely drink anymore but was on morphine for 3yrs before moving to worse and harder things. Kicking things that destroy your body is good. I never did rehab, as, etc but the important part is you put yourself 1st and focus on you. I feel you about lost sleep, I haven't slept right in 16yrs but you gotta live with the damage you've done sometimes knowing that things will only be worse and shorter if you start abusing anything again.

>Nolan reboot
for real?
That's awesome

12 step group member here, related fellowship. Steady as she goes, brother. Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. Easy Does It.
I got better when I got active. Sober life does NOT suck. Work with other alcoholics and addicts every.single.day. It's the a Gift we only get to keep if we give it away.

Play the tape man. You already know what would happen if you drank. You might feel good tonight but how are you going to feel in the morning? If you've been sober for a while, how you gonna tell your family? How are you going to deal with the pain? You can't lie to them, but you might cause that's what we do then you just start drinking regularly again while trying to keep up this lie but everyone knows you're full of shit. Then you end up in the hospital or jail again. Fuck that. Don't have a drink. Go jerk off and go to bed.

Thanks anons. Just wanted to say I really needed this. God bless you.

I've been sober since Dec 17th, 2003, just quit drinking 12-18 beers a night.
My wife said quit drinking or she was leaving with the kids, so I quit drinking. Best decision I've made.
Learn to channel your energies into something else, like exercise or fishing or painting.

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yeah
casting choices seem okay to me

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Not had a drink in over ten years, feels good to be free, do cardio 4 times a week, calisthenics and freeweights nearly every day, strong and healthy. I will never drink or touch any harmful stuff ever again in my life :)

Don't your cult meetings run around the clock? Why don't you go live your massive lifelong cope there instead of bogging down Jow Forums with even more bullshit?

fuck yourself dbag

3 years clean here.
In my humble opinion, 12 Step programs are for dullards whose parents didn’t teach them basic values and group think idiots (the kind that join cults).
Oh and don’t forget about the whore women there to meet men and vise versa.
As they say “a perfect program tab by imperfect people” aka “the program has some good aspects to it but the shitheads involved in it, ruin it”
You shouldn’t need a support group to be healthy.

You're not fooling anyone, you haven't changed at all :)

meh... the women are good, at least it's Nolan

Old fag here, 2 months clean after 30 years of hard living. Sober life is very hard to adjust to. I spent from 18-48 pretty much a functional addict. Held jobs, paid taxes, raised children. But it had to end. Good luck, make new friends or go solo.

I had a drinking problem when I was younger. Then I decided it's disgusting. Why would you pay money to throw up? If you spent 20 dollars on a ham sandwich, and it made you throw up violently for hours and wake up on the floor with a pounding headache, wondering what you did last night, would you ever eat another ham sandwich?

fooling anyone? you have me mistaken for someone else slick.

Long story short, NA&AA are filled with dirtbags and losers that view not being a junkie or drunk as their entire existence, and spend their days trying to move up in their support group hierarchy, rather than getting well and moving on.
The meetings become a competition; “who is the most fucked up with the hardest childhood?” or “who is the biggest boy scout that does volunteer work for attention?” ...

i'm just happy the entire cast isn't poc with harkonnen as whites kek

I got divorced today and said fuck the program.
Now I'm tripping on acid with some crystal pumping through my veins but it's only a few mins til 6 and I can taste that sweet nectar of life again.

Fuck happiness anons.
There is only pain.

The longer you abstain, the easier it gets.

You can do this user. Just for today. One is too many and a thousand is never enough.

Now now that isn't very spiritual of you, best reproach yourself or that god of your conception isn't gonna be happy. I'll take my ammends in cash thank you very much.

Twelve Step programs are designed to not only emasculate the addict, but also obscure the truth.

Alcohol and drugs are a plot by communists and Jews to enslave the white race. Your time is better spent annihilating those parasites rather than going around apologising to everyone.

Damn if only you spent that energy somewhere productive instead of bitching about something.
But you won't.
Because you're a loser.

My parents were fuckups, and didn’t teach me much, so maybe I need 12 steps more than you brother. I’m not sold on the system, but so far, it got me far. I’d never ask for help 2 years ago. I thought I could do it all.

It taught me to ask for help. I’m asking for help here. Thank you, anons, for being here. It has helped.

I’m not religious. But god bless you user. My love, and if there is a god, gods love to you.

Even this helped.

uh huh.. yawn. as i said before..

I can't remember the last time drinkimg alcohol made me throw up... But I can remember the last time Not having a drink did...

“All that energy” it takes to write 2 paragraphs. Lol.
Sorry, book thumper, I just never miss a chance to shit on 12 step programs and the frauds/zealots within that “fellowship”. Don’t let me stop you from getting well. I should be clearer about my meaning; if it works for you, work it! Doesn’t work for me. I hated it. I didn’t get clean until I stopped going to meetings. To each his own.

I'll see you in your inventory tonight sweaty ;) don't forget to write a nice chunk on me or that resentment might take you out

Life is good user. Don't give up on yourself.

I'm fucked up rn and the program has never worked for me I started when I was 20 I'm 31 now.
I was just saying you cry like a little girl.
That's all

Chewing bedrock, I see. There is happiness in strength.

Am monitoring this thread, alcoholism is hell. And I really don't want to take the anxiety meds they prescribed for it.

Stay strong, Tim.

5 months clean here.

riiiiiight

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A drug is a drug is a drug

Does being an addict work for you?

You ask me a stupid question like that implying I have a choice.

glad it helped user, keep posting.

having to courage to ask for help in the first place is farther than a lot of people get their entire life

any good AA/NA approved movies? i remember them making us watch Trees Lounge when i was in a rehab/scared straight type court ordered program as a teen, only time i've ever been to a meeting
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good ass movie

>meme flag shilling the cult of david rockefellar
>calling me a shill

Cope levels: ultra instinct

Also you owe me another amends now.

There is a peace in solace, silence and guilt. Driven by fear and the fear of fear itself you will need to

I didn’t mean to make any implications about you, user.
I am bitterly relating my own unpleasant and unsuccessful experience with the program.
If it brings you health and happiness, by all means, please continue going to meetings. Seriously.
Just know there are other ways to get well...
relapsing while in the program is more common that abstaining while in the program; that’s what they don’t tell you. The failure and relapse rates are huge. Even the old heads with time once had many relapses while in the program, they just kept coming back (for one reason or another). It’s easy to lose sight of that when you are in and out of the rooms like I was in my late 20s.
I’m 34 now and my life has improved so much I can’t even catalogue it all... and I don’t just mean in the areas of property and prestige, which they tell you is frivolous and hollow, but in terms of living and valuing myself more than I ever did before. It sounds corny, but the entire point of the program is to teach you to love yourself more. Respect your body and mind.
Much love and support.

Thanks user. The pol bants has actually made me feel better.

Day by day to your 6 months, brother. Then day by day. We all walk together.

Much love.

I know the feel man, used to smoke a ton of weed and drink every single day of the week. Your cravings will never go away, but they'll lessen, and lessen. Stay strong bro

assumptions will always fuck you up,
cup cake. -=]

It's obvious what you need. You might figure out what that is if you go to adult teen challenge and complete the program. Nearly every state has one. I offer this from experience. Good luck.
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Were going to relapse user. I know that. We all know that. What gives us strength is when we don’t. And when we reach out and people help us not to.

I really, really, wanted to grab a bottle 45 minutes ago.

Because of all of you, (well I still do) but I’m a bit better.

Tomorrow is another day.

Listen dude I'm just trying to save your life, if you don't make this right you're going to be devoured by resentment and shoot up non aa approved substances and OD. I don't make the rules, two rich jews did.

I don't really 'do' A.A., 12-Step anymore, user. I definitely don't do meetings (coming up on 7 years in October). Pretty busy with family responsibilities and just trying to get ahead/stay afloat in life. A lot of narcissism at meetings, as well as a lot of potential for getting wahman pussy-trapped, but without the benefit of actually getting your dick wet (in this day and age).

Good luck, though! I liked listening to Sandy Beach, Chuck Chamberlain and others. Will recommend more, if interested.

DONT DRINK OP

I fucking drank for first time in 6 months at a public bar... It brought all the bad memories out, And i began crying uncontrollably.

got arrested for public intoxication and am now going to have to possibly waste 5 grand on a lawyer.

seriously FUCKK drinkking, i fucking always remember the bad things when i drink.

still yappin.. still mistaken.. still lame.
yawn (again)

Not fooling anyone sweaty :-)

12 step is the low IQ option. Speak to any nigger in any of these meetings, and that will show you that that is self evident.

Fanatical devotion to National Socialism will make you clean living by default.

You were abused as a child? Then use that to your advantage. Use it to vanquish any sense of empathy you ever had. Use it in your development as a white warrior.

Hey jannie, and mods.

Thanks for keeping this up. I know it’s not politics. But it helped me tonight.

God bless you.

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nice user, keep it up.

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$5K for a public drunkenness? lol dude which sheister have you been talking to?
You don’t even need a lawyer for that sort of summons. Show up solo, dress well and ask for community service. It will likely get knocked down to Disorderly Conduct and you’ll walk with a $300 fine and no community service.
$5K is like the 2nd/3rd DUI lawyer rate.

Well Eric it's what happens when you burn everyone..

Well i have a very strong case, and this is my first time ever dealing with any police, or being arrested.

Cops said i was "suicidal" even though i got no history, said nothing like that, and they even illegal searchhed my car before even telling me i was detained, And this was not a traffic stop,

they found 4 grams of weed, and my gun which I AM LEGALLY allowed to have as i have my CC. I have a cop friend that told me its all bullshit, but id rather be safe than sorry. Fucking never drinking again. Fuck this gay shit.

At least it motivated me to buy 3 houses for my real estate LLC finally, and now i am going to start a new job paying me 80 hrly.


seriously FUC DRINKINING!! i should have just stuck to smoking.

“these are minor details” lol

Didn’t realize it was that complex. Yeah, you should lawyer up since there’s a pistola involved. If it was just a pub intox+ganja and there wasn’t a gun+mental health angle, I’d say a lawyer isn’t necessary.
I wouldn’t be too worried about it, though you might lose your CC and your gun for a little while if they didn’t take it already.

Nothing wrong with the herb-only route.
I smoke a gang of weed, but have been off drugs&alcohol for a little over 3 years.
One thing I hated about the “fellowship” was their “marijuana will make you go back to the needle/pipe/bottle” rhetoric. I burn 2 zips a month and haven’t even come close to relapsing. In fact, it has strengthened my resolve to not relapse.
For an ex junkie like me, only smoking herb is “clean”.
Marijuana isn’t harmless, however, if you’re a 14 year old. It can definitely do damage to a young brain/psyche.
Marijuana is for 17 year olds and up.

i agree. my friends who started young did stupid shit (willingly drop out willingly get involved with retards who later robbed them)


If you start when your mature enough, it wont be such a "epic" or whatever te fuckk moment for you.

>Marijuana is for 17 year olds and up.
26 and up, that's when the brain stops developing

I’m trying to be realistically pragmatic here. Of course you have a point. I would even argue that the brain/mind/psyche isn’t done “maturing” until 30.

DING DING DING

(in reference to ‘low IQ option’ )

Have a beer on me faggot.

Weird post
Havent been to a meeting in like 6 months. Woke up a bit ago thinking that maybe I should, open pol and see this post.
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