True communism was never attempted

that means no money, no monarch, no gulags, no saturn symbols, etc.

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Stfu yeah, fucking retard

True National Socialism was never tried.

True communism has been attempted numerous times, it has never been achieved outside of small tribal communities because its retarded and incompatible with civilization.

>has never been achieved outside of small tribal communities
Being realistic here, this user brings up a good point. Communism is a viable system for small communities where tasks, materials, and so on can more easily be tracked. Also so accountability exists in a reasonable way.
As a large scale civic organizer, communism is a flop and always will be.

true capitalism was actually never attempted
delet all feds - go local only

That same fag again. Don't feed him, his propaganda won't do shit and he will finally get bored

>it has never been achieved outside of small tribal communities
Never heard of hippie communes? They always get infiltrated by glowing niggers before going big. Also, (((civilization)))

Exactly. Communism is the extrapolation if a necessary survival mechanism in primitive communities to complex, large scale economies. It would be like trying to use an abacus to compute quantum physics equations.

Furthermore, even in small technologically backwards communities where the general concept of communism might work, a natural hierarchy will still develop or attempt to develop organically. Somebody has to be in charge, there had to be a final say, somebody with the burden of responsibility.

no system, whatever shit stain you want to label it with; will ever be for the people if it uses cumulative tokens of freedom (((money))) because the rich will get richer and monopolize everything.

Yeah, I’m sure if the poor small hippie communes didn’t get infiltrated by glow niggers they would soon become massive city states with millions of citizens and still retain their communist ideals, lmao

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It was tried, and it worked great, but not much you can do to fight if most of the planet in a world war.

*fight off

>As a large scale civic organizer
That's the problem. You cant expect there to be no corruption in a city millions of people because how the fuck is everyone supposed to know everyone else? People don't easily cheat off people they know, so keeping communes small is the key.

>become massive city states with millions of citizens
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So is the true goal of communism still a global stateless communism utopia with everyone on earth converted? Or small autonomous communities operating outside of the current system?

The goal is to force that mentality on everyone and then somehow hope that the incredibly powerful state and the flawed humans in it just give up their power so people can exist in those autonomous communities.
Yet again, the human element is neglected. It's a dangerous thing to do.

The Venus Project explains it well. Basically small communes connected to each other like a neural network.

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If we reach a post state, post monetary system society and achieve it without any kind of socialism, we reserve the right to not call it communism.

STFU REVISIONIST

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Interesting. I’m biased as shit as a hard right leaning lad, but a few things stood out to me.

1. They sure do avoid calling it communism, when it’s clearly a form of communism.

2. They appear to want to erase borders and class distinction, I’m not sure how you implement a program like this without borders unless you plan on the entire earth voluntarily coming along for the ride.

3. Speaking of voluntary, if the plan is to outgrow governments, I can foresee some growing pains. This is another concept that seems to require a worldwide and rapid or instantaneous awakening.

I’m a fairly live and let live kind of guy when it comes to states and nations. I personally am against voting, democracy, and would prefer a dictator/monarch in my own state, however I’m against imperialism and forcing this on other nations. I would gladly allow some sort of anarcho-communist entity, my concern is that if they were to “gain power”, as much of an oxymoron as that is, they would not allow me or my ideal state to exist.

In short, I have no issue with leaving commies alone, I’m not convinced that they will ever leave me alone.

I like this image a lot